I’m the kind of guy that loves trade deadlines. I love roster moves. I love speculating over what could be or what might have been. I love thinking about the what-ifs and the maybe-could-happens. So with Thursday’s trade deadline approaching, if you assumed that I was excited about it, you’d be right.
A lot of people in the know figure Sam “Give Me Draft Picks!” Presti and Oklahoma City will be major players at the deadline. The Thunder’s got expiring contracts, draft picks and a few enticing veterans on the roster. All that adds up to Presti spending more time on the phone than Kelvin Sampson.
But before you can do anything – in anything – you’ve got to know what you’ve got. You’ve got to take inventory and rank your assets. So that’s what we’ll do. (Nenad Krstic is excluded because he can’t be traded for another two months.) You can really break the Thunder’s roster into seven simple categories.
We’re going to want the keys to your city
1. Kevin Durant. He’s OKC’s top asset and he’s not going anywhere. There’s maybe two players in the entire league that I’d trade him straight up for. LeBron and Dwight Howard. Nope, not Kobe. Nope, not even Chris Paul. From what we’ve seen from KD in just this little time, I think we’re looking at a steady top five player with the potential to be a top three. And because by law, any time you talk about Kevin Durant’s awesomeness, you have to mention this: He’s only 20 years old.
It’s going to have to be good. Real good.
2. Jeff Green and Russell Westbrook. Uncle Jeff is quickly establishing himself as a scorer from both the inside and outside, but also as a quality defender and physical rebounder. Russell is considered by some to maybe be the best player from the 2008 draft. For these two, I honestly don’t know too many players I’d take in exchange for them. I love the chemistry between them and KD and with their ages being 20, 20 and 22, it gives OKC long-term stability. By “real good,” I’m talking, like really, really good.
3. 2009 first round pick. Regardless of what happens from here on out, the Thunder are in the lottery. And most likely, barring some 25-game win streak, OKC will be in the top five or six. While with the way it’s looking, picks 2-30 don’t look all that wonderful, teams still would love to have the Thunder’s No. 1.
Your No. 1 pick or a quality contributor
4. Chris Wilcox and Joe Smith. Both contracts expire after this year. Either a team looking for a salary dump (New Orleans) or a team looking to add a quality, veteran big man (Boston) could be very interested in one of these two. I know, Chris Wilcox shouldn’t be No. 5 in any list except for maybe “Most Talented, But Frustratingly Unproductive Players in the League” but I think he’s valuable to lots of teams. Mainly because of his contract, but who cares? OKC could swing something pretty sweet because of that. Joe Smith is much more productive and that’s what makes him more lucrative. Together, these amount to almost $12 million which means someone looking to loose some salary could unload a pretty penny and get something quality in return.
We’d like to keep him but we’re listening
5. Nick Collison. As someone pointed out a couple of weeks ago, as soon as you deal Nick, you’re immediately looking for another player just like him. A contender would love his grit and effort. He’s the type of guy that will randomly win a playoff game for you by making big hustle plays. He’s under contract until 2011 and he’s a pretty good bargain at just over $6 million per.
6. Phoenix’s 2010 unprotected first round pick. With the Suns tanking like this season of 24 (so the African warlord is moonlighting as a regular immigrant boyfriend to a D.C. waitress? Whatever 24), this pick’s value is going up. Some even suspect Steve Nash wants out at this point. So let’s dream for a moment and wonder if the Suns ’10 pick could potentially be higher than the Thunder’s. And all of that for a future conditional second round pick. Thanks Steve Kerr!
7. 2010 first round pick. It’s still a valuable asset but it’s stock is falling faster than, well, the 2009 Phoenix Suns! But the better OKC gets, the less valuable this becomes. Especially with so many young pieces in place, the Thunder won’t be building through the draft a whole lot more anyway and may be looking to deal for veteran pieces as it is. But as of today, this is still a very valuable commodity.
8. The rights to Serge Ibaka. This is such an unknown. Ibaka could be really great or he could be Mo Sene. But by the looks of him right now, he may turn out to be an absolute animal once he gets a little refining. Other teams are constantly asking about him. And we got him as a result of that 2007 Phoenix trade that also gave us that 2010 first rounder. Thanks again, Steve!
9. Earl Watson. He makes a little too much for what he produces and is under contract through next year. If his deal were expiring this year, he’d be right there with Smith and Wilcox, but the fact that OKC doesn’t have a true back-up point makes him currently more valuable to the Thunder than anyone else.
10. Kyle Weaver. Weaver is a guy that I’m beginning to really like. I’ve said it before but he has the looks of that perfect role player on a playoff team. Plays tough defense, is heady and (hopefully) can score a few points. He’s cheap (under $1 million per) and he’s locked up until 2012 (pending OKC exercises his option). He’s not going to draw interest on his own, but a lot of teams would love him as part of a deal.
11. Desmond Mason. He would be an extremely valuable piece for a contender if he weren’t hurt. His contract is up this year, he’s a great defender, the ultimate professional and an excellent leader. Mason said he wants to finish his career in OKC and since I’m in the “Re-sign Dez” camp, maybe in a backward, horribly twisted way, it’s a good thing he got hurt. If he hadn’t, Presti may have gotten an offer he couldn’t refuse. As it stands, I think Mason will get re-signed and be a really nice piece off the OKC bench next year.
The Throw-Ins
12. Denver and San Antonio’s protected 2009 No. 1. Both these teams are playoff bound so you’re looking at a pick anywhere between 15 and 30. There’s a few diamonds in that rough, but it’s rare. But that’s the good news because if they weren’t headed for postseason, OKC would lose the pick.
13. D.J. White. It’s really a shame he’s been hurt. He could have been a solid contributor for this team. But he’s below the Denver and San Antonio pick because I don’t think another team would rather have – a guy that hasn’t been able to step on the court yet – over somebody else that will be drafted in the same area he was.
14. Mo Sene. He’s a project whose contract expires this year. But unless he’s a throw-in in a big deal, he won’t go anywhere. He’s not going to contribute right now, but he could even out the numbers for a deal.
The Slop – What are you willing to offer?
15. Chucky Atkins. He was a throw-in so OKC could unload Johan Petro, so when he heads out the door he’ll be exactly what he was when he came in. He’s under contract through next year, but is cheap and serviceable.
16. Robert Swift. Officially busted. He hobbles and wobbles up and down the floor, never looking comfortable. He makes Greg Oden look like Barry Sanders. The ONLY reason anybody would want him at this point would be because they are having major financial issues and they need expiring contracts. But in order for him to be traded, he’d have to give consent. Some GM may still believe that he can get healthy and turn into the lottery pick he was supposed to be, but at this point, nobody’s giving much for him. He would need a solid month of production to get any higher than he is now and frankly, he’s hasn’t been able to put a stretch like that together his whole career.
How about a tank of gas and a pack of Marlboro Lights?
17. Damien Wilkins. His trade value was killed by him playing. He got on the floor, was horribly unproductive and now nobody wants him. He has two years left and is making $3.1 million. He would have been a nice piece for someone but he’s played himself into and end-of-the-bench guy. He could be used to even another deal and in the right situation he might be a solid role player but at this point, I wonder what the Thunder could get.
18. Brian Davis. This year’s No. 1 pick and Brian Davis to the Knicks for Gus Johnson. Tell me you wouldn’t do this.
I know a lot of people have been eye-balling the Thunder’s potential cap space for this offseason (close to $20 million under) meaning there would be room to go after the quality, but very few free agents. The thing is, instead of holding on to that dough to try and grab Carlos Boozer, David Lee or someone else, the Thunder could swing a deal and grab a guy like Tyson Chandler and have him for two years – basically like signing a two-year free agent deal. With the free agent pool being relatively weak this offseason and with everyone clearing room for 2010, OKC could maybe do most of its damage in the trade market. Because in reality, it would be really difficult to nab Boozer or Lee, so a deal for someone like Chandler would be perfect.
(Channeling Digger Phelps) If the Hornets are willing to play, you absolutely make the Smith/Wilcox/Whatever Reasonable for Tyson Chandler deal. Why? Because OKC desperately needs an enforcer in the paint. Why? Because they do. Chandler is a superb shot blocker and a great rebounder. Why? I don’t know, he just is.
So absolutely, definitely, Chris Wilcox and Joe Smith (and the Nuggets or Spurs first rounder or cash if they want more ) for Tyson Chandler. Done. Lock it up.
(I know what some people are thinking. But if we get Chandler, then maybe we start winning a few more games, and you know… YOU KNOW. Look, I know people want Blake Griffin. Nobody wants him more than me. Nobody. Well, except for maybe Sam Presti. But you can’t let the “Are we winning too much, if you know what I mean” thought into our head. When we were sitting at 3-29, who thought we’d be close to having this discussion. The Thunder. Winning too much. Ha! What next, Alex Rodriguez is going to admit to doing steroids? What’s that?
More on this little situation later, but don’t let that thought cross your mind right now. Or I’ll find you and club you with a candlestick. I’m serious.)
I keep Earl Watson though. What, you crazy? I know. But I do. He crawled into our doghouse when he gutted out the first two months with a bum thumb. But he’s played solid lately and if contenders want him as a quality back-up point guard, why don’t we just keep him for that same purpose? If we don’t, then we might be in the same shoes other teams are in next year, scouring the league for a back-up point man.
I test the waters on guys like Robert Swift and Chucky Atkins, looking for any potential takers that would be willing to take on an injury-riddled project and a back-up, back-up point guard. But if you can swing another protected first-rounder out of it, I say do it. Cut your losses with Swift and move on. Especially if you land a guy like Chandler, then you wonder what good Swift does you in the future.
But you can’t over think yourself and get in a hurry. Chandler would be a major splash and would completely change this team. Other than that, you stay steady. I don’t think it’s wise to try and wheel and deal and bring in six new players. While obviously OKC needs help at the two, you don’t just run out and trade a good asset for C.J. Watson. Be patient and let your guy come into vision. OKC needs help on the perimeter, but the Thunder may find that solution in the draft. Heck, I’m still holding out hope on Kyle Weaver’s outside shot.
But let’s understand, I’m not an NBA general manager. But I play one on the Internet! And there’s a reason I’m not doing it for real. Presti has done a heckuva job collecting assets and putting a plan in place thus far. And I’m sure by Thursday at 2 p.m., something will have happened and the OKC roster will look a little different.
And how about a bonus Thundercast! Joe and I discuss OKC’s assets and the Tyson Chandler trade.




I'd say Wilcox and Smith were pretty high assets as it turned out. Flipping them for Tyson Chandler is pretty solid value.
I liked Pargo but boy, he could get carried away with the jumper. He really hurt the Hornets in the playoffs last year with all those jump shots. He can go off and score 30 but he can also go 4-15 from the field.
Agreed. I also think J Pargo would be a good fit, but I hesitate to suggest it lest I sound like I am just trying to re-create the 07-08 Hornet experience...;)
@okiefunk
I actually said to my buddy Chet just four nights ago and I quote, "Give me Kirk Hinrich. I want him."
HAS quite a bit of value--geez
I am not hatin' on Watson, I just think he quite a bit of value as a trade, and was quite vocal early on about WANTING to be traded!(in his defense, at 3-25 only a gym-rat with eyes only for the ball and a messiah complex would NOT want to be traded--bless you KD!)
Totally agree that Westbrook can't play the whole game, and needs a solid backup, but I envision a Heinrich type second tier player who can nail the 3 when left wide open outside!
I agree, Daniels would be a perfect fit. He seems to thrive off of home crowd energy much like J.R. Smith (check out Smith's home and away splits) and would enjoy playing in OKC.
Tobasco, it's not that I don't like Earl's game. He can run an offense and can be a stabilizing force if Russell is struggling. I'm just saying that if the Thunder could improve at shooting guard or center by giving up Watson they should do it. I still think Weaver has a future in the league though as a lock down guard.
I also agree that I would not give up Durant for anyone besides Lebron or Howard or a healthy Wade. If you had to bet on his PPG and rebounds average in 2011-2012 season would you take the over or under on 29 and 8? It's difficult to not predict the over.
I meant to quote okiefunk. There's so many of them that I got my Earl critics mixed up.
Jordan :
I love the Chandler deal but the rumored Salmons deal scares the hell out of me. I know he has a great contract and is a great scorer but watch one Kings game before you fall in love with his stats. He sulks when he doesn’t get his shots and the only person taking shots away from him now is Kevin Martin. Imagine how grumpy he will be when he is sharing shots with three legitimate scorers. This team seems to thrive off chemistry and I think Salmons couldn’t mess with that quite a bit. Great post by the way but I still think if someone offers us a good deal for Earl we have to take it and officially hand the keys to Westbrook and hope Atkins can steal some minutes.
And what happens when Westbrook turns an ankle ? Ya gonna start Chucky ? Running Earl out of town is short sighted.
And somebody like Marquis Daniels absolutely fits that piece I think. He's not a great shooting, but he can defend and he's a solid scorer. I think he'd fit in nicely.
Yeah, I agree about a shooting guard, but I think we need a solid veteran point guard to play behind Russell. And I don't know how much better you can do out there right now than Earl (as weird as that sounds).
The reason Chucky Atkins is "slop" is just because he's got little to not value. It's not because he doesn't do his job - it's because in the trade market, he doesn't do much for folks.
@ Sam--No way, no how. (But I still love ya CP3)
I am totally salivating over the possibility of bringing Tyson Chandler back to town! This would be awesome! But I must admit I am firmly in the trade Earl Watson camp--despite his recent productivity, and obvious change of attitude. The huge chip on his shoulder has shrunk considerably in the last two months, but that doesn't make him an outside shooter. My wish list (after Tyson Chandler) is for a shooting guard who can actually shoot. Trade/free agent/draft I don't care, but KD needs to have a secondary threat on the outside to give him some space from the defenders (attempting to) hang on his jock like stick-tights!!
I also take exception to calling Atkins "the slop", because he is a solid veteran who is happy to sit on the bench as insurance and let Westbrook (bless his heart) play his 40+ minutes to his 20 year-old hearts content! This is the role Watson seems unwilling, and admittedly, overqualified for.
Totally agree Jordan. I've never been a fan of the Salmons deal because I don't think he fits in with what we're doing. He'd be playing out of position at the two and I don't know if he could defend that. I think we wait for something better.
I love the Chandler deal but the rumored Salmons deal scares the hell out of me. I know he has a great contract and is a great scorer but watch one Kings game before you fall in love with his stats. He sulks when he doesn't get his shots and the only person taking shots away from him now is Kevin Martin. Imagine how grumpy he will be when he is sharing shots with three legitimate scorers. This team seems to thrive off chemistry and I think Salmons couldn't mess with that quite a bit. Great post by the way but I still think if someone offers us a good deal for Earl we have to take it and officially hand the keys to Westbrook and hope Atkins can steal some minutes.
Completely agree about Earl. Can Chucky Atkins be a better backup PG than Earl ????? All these fans wanting Earl out of town remind me of fans who want to fire a head coach but have no idea who is going to replace the head coach. Anybody whose employed people will tell you that before you fire someone, you better have a good idea of what you can replace him with, else you jump from the frying pan to the fire.
Fantastic post Royce! Absolute thorough research and rundown of the team and trades etc.
I agree with your Serge Ibaka view. He's shown too much potential at this point to become a Swift or Sene. I mean to be able to put up some of the numbers he has recently against some of those European teams e.g. DKV Jovenhut, he just has to turn out to be something halfway solid.
Also, Im leaning towards trading for Chandler. Its no secret that the C position is the hardest to fill in NBA (at least for a decent one) and he is the perfect type of center we need.
To be honest, if u bring in too many scorers on one team, you lose the rebounding and defence roles any good team has.
Id back Durant, Green and Westbrook to match any backcourt in the NBA 2 years from now (if they arent already) so if you have your front court able to reasonably nullify other teams' frontcourts (which has been our biggest weakness), your on your way to the playoffs.
Id only trade for chandler though if we gave up wilcox, smith and one pick...no more. That would give you a rotation of Chandler, Kristic and Green.
Chandler is injured at the moment too (might not impact record immediately).
So while i oppose losing at all costs, i still believe we need one more solid pick (top 10 or 12) out of this years draft to give ourselves the best chance at going all the way in the next decade.
I would trade KD for CP3 so fast his head would spin.