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Thunder refuse to go quietly in Los Angeles

by Royce Young on February 10, 2009 at 11:56 pm 14 Comments

Thunder Lakers BasketballIn a strange way, this was a big time step in the right direction for Oklahoma City. So the final score was 105-98 and the Thunder really didn’t have a realistic chance to win down the stretch. OKC was in it for 48 minutes against the league’s best team on the road – and the Thunder didn’t even play that well. (Too bad they were on the road because they could have gotten their first taste of real Oklahoma today with four tornadoes touching down in the city. I bet they were bummed. Anyway…)

Now don’t get me wrong, it kind of felt like Los Angeles was just cruising at points and was never in jeopardy of letting it get close. They had total control in the second half and for three or four minute stretches it seemed like they could just turn it on and spit out six straight. But OKC scrapped and wouldn’t lay down and die. And that’s one of the many things there is to love about these guys.

With Kevin Durant having an uncharacteristic off night hitting 10 of 23 shots (and by “off night” he still finished with 31 points and 10 boards, making it five straight 30 point games) and Russell Westbrook going 5-16 and Jeff Green 6-14 and the team shooting 40 percent, it’s really amazing that the Thunder was even in it at all down the stretch. Especially when your opponent shoots 46 percent and outrebounds you by 10.

But pure grit and scrappiness (is that a word?) is what did it. OKC took care of the ball, hit free throws and the big three put up solid numbers despite shooting poorly. Durant had the 31 and 10, Green had 16 points, eight boards and five assists and Westbrook was in triple-double territory again with 17-9-7. They all hung in there and played gutty, hard basketball despite shooting a combined 39 percent. That’s what I was really thrilled about. Even though they were all “off,” they still cashed in really solid performances. That’s the type of stuff winning teams do. The Thunder is getting there.

But boy, there were so many plays that should they have gone the Thunder’s way, this thing could have been tight. Kyle Weaver missed about 19 wide open looks. (And I don’t mean to rip Weaver because I thought he worked extremely hard on Kobe Bryant and he needs to take those shots – it would just be nice if he’d hit a couple of them. Keep shooting it young fella.) Every loose ball went L.A.’s way. The Thunder didn’t finish 3-on-2 fast breaks. They missed open looks. They didn’t rebound. The last sequence – if Nenad Krstic secures that board and OKC hits a three, it’s a two-point game with a few seconds left and the Lakers have to hit free throws to finish it off. As frustrating as it seemed OKC played, they were in it and kind of had a chance to win it if five or six plays go their way. That’s really, really encouraging. Remember, this was the Lakers in the Staples Center. You can take more from this loss than you can from Sunday’s win over Sacramento. You really can.

Pace Eff eFG FT/FG OREB%
OKC 100.0 98.0 43.3% 23.6 20.0 12.0
LAL 105.0 48.0% 10.1 30.8 13.0

Let’s revisit the nine goals I had before the game:

1. Defend Kobe. Weaver worked really hard. He tried to body him up, but Kobe abused him in the post. Bryant is so physical that he can create his shot with one forearm shiver and a step back. I used to think guys like Bruce Bowen and Raja Bell were really dirty players (don’t get me wrong, they’ve taken their fair share of cheap shots) but in a way, you kind of have to dirty it up to defend Kobe. He’s going to be physical. He’s going to bump and push and grab. He never gets tagged for that stuff because, well, he’s Kobe Bryant. But Weaver needs to just let it fly and push back. Throw a bow up there when you secure a rebound. Don’t be dirty per se, but be physical and establish yourself defensively. That’s something Desmond Mason sure does/did and it’s something Weaver will learn. Kobe had 34 on 13-26 shooting, but at times the Thunder did a nice job. I actually thought Durant did the best job on him. KD’s length changed a couple shots and caused Kobe to airball two.

2. Be in it at halftime. We knew the Lakers would go on a run. And they did. In the last four minutes of the first half, the score was 43-41, OKC leading. Then L.A. went on a 19-4 run to close the half. I thought they’d come out firing in the first quarter, but it turns out they saved their 35-22 quarter for the second. It wound up being a 60-47 deficit for the Thunder, which was manageable. It wasn’t a “bad” 13-point margin, if you know what I mean. They were in it.

3. Hold the Lakers to under 105 points. COME ON! Sheesh. Had Pau Gasol not gotten a trash bucket on a jump ball with three seconds left, OKC would have nailed it. So I’m calling this a check. The Thunder played a great first quarter defensively holding L.A. to 25 points. Not so much in the second, but then just 20 in the third and 25 in the fourth. The Thunder held the Lakers to four below their season average and overall, played pretty solid defense. You could see how hard OKC was working defensively and as tough a team offensively as L.A. is, I was pleased.

4. Outrebound them. Here was your first major difference. The Lakers won the board war 56-46, but really did work on the offensive glass. The Lakers scored 10 of their first 18 on second chance looks. They had 16 offensive rebounds and just clearly overmatched the hard working Thunder players on the glass.

5. Get to the line. Big time check here. This is how OKC kept it close. L.A. hit 10 of 17 from the line. The Thunder hit 21 of 24, with KD scoring 10 of his 31 at the line. For some reason, Jeff Green only got to the line once for the second straight game (and it was because of a defensive three seconds to boot), which is weird.

6. Turn it over fewer than 15 times. Check – just 13 turnovers. That and the free throw shooting are your two main reasons that this thing was close at the end. Bravo Thunder. Brav-o.

7. Do better than “decent” on the blocks against Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom. Like the rebounding thing, this just didn’t happen. Gasol had his way with the OKC post men. Nick Collison had four fouls as soon as he stepped off the bus. Nick just couldn’t defend him. Krstic did a little better job, but again, we were looking for better than decent. Gasol finished with 22 and 14 and Odom with 12 and 18. Those were the two places OKC didn’t match up well and it showed.

8. Get some easy buckets. The Thunder got out and ran – some. And when they did, it worked for the most part. It was clear about halfway through the first quarter – the Thunder was just not going to be able to execute consistently in the halfcourt. They needed to run and get points in transition as much as possible. I’m guessing, but I bet seven or eight of OKC’s 10 offensive boards were off missed layups or runner on a fast break. You’ve got to match a perfect combo of running and halfcourt sets when your overmatched and I thought the Thunder did a pretty good job of it.

9. Just have a chance. I wanted to be watching and thinking, “Just get a stop and a bucket here and we can make it interesting,” and that’s exactly what happened. OKC played an excellent game considering the opponent. I’m sure the Thunder’s 40 percent from the field had something to do with L.A.’s solid defense. But OKC took care of the ball and took care of things they could control. They can’t control Kobe Bryant’s unbelievable talent and they can’t control being totally overmatched physically on the blocks. But they executed a solid game plan and was in it at the end. And against the league’s best team, that’s all we could really ask for.

Oklahoma City takes a short trip north to take on the Blazers again tomorrow night. It’ll be tough to regroup from this grueler, but I think Brooks will have them ready to compete again.

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Taylor
Taylor 5pts

I grew up in southern California as a Laker fan but spent two years of my life in the Oklahoma/Missouri area and the Lakers/Thunder are easily my two favorite teams. These days I lean more towards the Thunder because I love their young core and the fact that there is no bandwagon. I am going to school in Utah right now so I was unable to watch the game last night but talked to my dad about it and he mentioned that the Thunder looked good. I need the NBA package so I can watch them consistently. Luckily, I have this blog to read up on my Thunder. Thanks for the information!

MartzMimic
MartzMimic 5pts

I think Kyle is the anti-Westbrook.

He seems to really think about what he's doing, to the point that he passes up shots he's not comfortable with.

On the other hand, Westbrook seems to create on the fly and doesn't seem to care if it's something he's comfortable with or not.

John
John 5pts

I don't know what it means, but according to NBA.com Weaver was the only player on the team with a positive +/- (+4). I'm really looking forward to this kid growing up over the next few year. Royce, you are right on with what he needs to learn defensively, and I wish he'd make those open 3's a bit more often, but he's definitely developing pretty well.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

I mentioned Odom in the pre-game thread. I think if he took the night off, we could have had a better game. But Odom came to play, got his double-double, and helped Gasol dominate in the paint.

Sometimes it isn't a lack of effort, or poor game planning, it's just size or talent, and LA has both over us in the paint.

I was glad to see Durant keep at it, though he started 2 for 10 or whatever it was. Glad to see he didn't get too frustrated and force things. I missed that killer take-the-game-over instinct, but I liked his resolve. Westbrook shot his typical percentage. If that kid can ever get a consistent 40%+ from the field, he'll be a real scoring threat. He did a good job on D. Weaver did a good job on D also. No one in the league can really guard Kobe, so all in all he did as good as can be expected.

One day, we may have some diesel down low, someone who can butch with the best of them, Shaq-like. If we do get that guy, we'll see games like this go our way.

MartzMimic
MartzMimic 5pts

It was obvious from the tip that Nick was giving up too much height to be effective. Gasol's and Odom's length caused the Thunder to shoot a lot of rainbows. I was encouraged that we've keep the turns low the last couple games. Here's hoping we do the same and shoot better tonight for the SOS folks.

daniel
daniel 5pts

@jk
"I don’t think they needed to turn it on in the 4th."

Perhaps they felt the same. But that's a dangerous game to play. Arrogance will lose games for you just as surely as missed shots, turnovers, etc.

The Lakers have played so tremendously well in the last few weeks, they've got some convinced they can do no wrong. But look at Boston, an outstanding team, that went on a 7 (or was it 9?) game losing streak before turning it back around. I think it would be sweet if the Lakers lose 2 or 3 games in the next couple of weeks -- just so this ridiculous "Lakers are invincible" baloney will start to die down.

I guess different people saw different things in last night's game. Some just saw a really good team toying with a lesser team. What I got out of it was a strong feeling that the Thunder can beat the Lakers.

Royce
Royce 5pts

Yeah Kobe and Odom only played about five minutes each in the fourth. The Lakers had a cushion and they knew if it got close, they could put their closers in.

I feel a lot like Daniel in the sense that the game was there to take if we just could have knocked down some shots. But as poorly as we played, we scrapped and clawed and I was really pleased with that.

jk
jk 5pts

I don't think they needed to turn it on in the 4th.

The Lakers had a 101-89 lead with just a couple minutes to go. As much as I wanted the Thunder to win--there was never a moment in the 4th quarter that I thought "We're going to win this game!"

daniel
daniel 5pts

Ok, here's the quarter breakdown:

OKC 25 22 26 25
LAL 25 35 20 25

Pretty dadgum even. First and last quarters tie. LA takes the 2nd, we take the 3rd. Except they win the second more decisively than we do the third.

Folks, I don't care what anyone else says, I see a vulnerable team. The Lakers are good, but they are not invincible. People say, "oh, they've got the on/off switch". Ok, then why didn't they use it at the end of the game? They're only ahead 7 points at the end of the 3rd, so why didn't they pour it on and go 35-25 in the 4th and blow us out?

Enough with the Laker fawning and worship. I want to see some serious ass-kicking when LA visits the Ford Center.

jk
jk 5pts

I completely agree with your take Royce.

The point in the game where I felt we let an opportunity go was in the first 15 minutes of the game when the Lakers were very choppy and out of sync. KD, Westbrook and Weaver, in particular had open looks that they just didn't hit. Had they hit 50% more of those, I think we would/should have had a 10 point lead after one.

Now I don't think that would have meant victory because the Lakers are one of the few teams in the league that has that on/off switch, but it sure would have allowed for that 19-4 run at the end of the second to not end our chances.

daniel
daniel 5pts

Hmmm, I've got mixed feelings on this. The consensus seems to be "gosh, we held our own fairly well against the best team in the league". I understand that. Yeah, it's true as far as it goes.

But my main feeling is "damn, we let one slip away". This was a definitely winnable one. And I don't buy the line that LA was just toying around and could have risen up and crushed us any time they felt the need. Maybe the Lakers felt that, and probably their fans believe it, but it just doesn't work that way. I'm sure the Lakers felt that way a little over a week ago playing the Bobcats, who nevertheless beat them.

Look, the Lakers are a great team. But they're human. Kobe puts up air balls too.

I just hope that when the Lakers come to OKC in two weeks, our guys are ready to show them who owns the Ford Center. I don't want to see any attitudes like "gosh, the Lakers... Kobe... they're great... we'll just do the best we can". I want to see "Yeah, they're good. We're good too. This is our building. Time to put the hammer down".

Dooney
Dooney 5pts

*Lakers -12... I'll be looking forward to the day when we play the Lakers and they are +12 against us.

Dooney
Dooney 5pts

For as bad as we played, I'm extremely happy that we didn't give up. I'm thinking some people lost money on this game as the spread was Lakers +12.

That defensive "stand" that Joe explained was great. Weaver just timed it and said, "Whop!" (Chris Berman Style).

Joe
Joe 5pts

Weaver's defense: loved it when he pulled the chair out from under Bryant that time he was getting posted--perfect.

Post defense: You got to see first hand how Collison's lack of height for the Center position works against him. Odom and Pau have really really long arms and even though Colly played good position D, they got inside and lofted over the shorter Nick. We began to double Gasol in the second half.

We were shooting way too many jumpshots, that's why there were so many rebounds in this game. We needed to attack the basket more.

I agree, I feel good about this game. At least as good as you can about a loss where you didn't play your A game.

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