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Vegas League wrap: Lakers 74, Thunder 68

by Royce Young on July 14, 2009 at 7:50 pm 13 Comments

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Oklahoma City led for virtually the entire game but poor defense and bad execution late let the Lakers come back and take a 74-68 win in the most important basketball game in history. Some observations:

  • Tonight was the James Harden show. After his worst Summer League game Sunday night (just four points), he put together a full line: 23 points on 9-14 shooting (2-5 from 3), five rebounds, five assists and two steals. After the Thunder had scored just two points in five and half minutes to start the third, Harden ripped off 11 straight. He hit a nice 20-footer and was fouled on it, then nailed back-to-back threes and finished it off with a driving layup.
  • Harden and Kyle Weaver took turns running a lot of point guard tonight with mixed results. Weaver had a nice game (10 points, three rebounds, eight assists, three blocks, two steals), but he turned it over four times. Sometimes it seems like Weaver tries to make the excellent pass too often. Maybe you can thread the needle with a no-look dish, but more than likely you can’t, but most times Weaver will try it anyway. Every player is guilty of forcing passes, but Weaver gets fancy a lot and tries it too much. Harden did a pretty good job running point, but with him distributing and not a lot of options on the wing, the offense really stalled. I think things would work really well with Harden at the point if he has Russell Westbrook, KD and Jeff Green alongside him.
  • One other observation about Weaver: While sometimes he doesn’t always make the biggest impact in the box score, he sure was a menace defensively tonight. He guarded Adam Morrison for most of the night and Morrison was forced into his worst Summer League line yet (5-18 from the floor). He got in passing lanes, blocked shots and took a charge or two. He’s really not the type of player you want in the game for 30 minutes, but he at least does good things for you all the time on one end of the court.
  • Serge Ibaka has kind of disappeared in Vegas. After averaging 13 and four on almost 70 percent shooting in Orlando, he put up just three points and three rebounds, hitting just one of his four shots. He also turned it over five times and was bullied on the boards. He not playing with anywhere near the focus and intensity he was last week. Has that little contract he signed already gone to his head? Surely not, but something’s up. I liked last week’s Chewie much better.
  • One play to point out about Ibaka: Early in the fourth quarter, Morrison was at the free throw line and missed his second attempt. Ibaka halfway blocked out David Monds and the ball went right over Ibaka’s head. Monds manhandled Ibaka, grabbing the board and then went right back up and in. I like Ibaka a lot – a whole lot – but that’s not going to cut it if he wants to make this roster.
  • D.J. White was having a really nice ballgame but got knocked upside the head during a scramble in the third quarter and never returned. It appeared he was just fine, but even so, he was held out. In his 17 minutes he had nine points on 4-5 shooting.
  • Mr. Byron Mullens had one of his better games Tuesday night (which of course means he’ll stink Thursday). He was extremely active and played hard for all of his 25 minutes (great hustle diving on the floor for a loose ball). After not blocking a single shot all week in Orlando, he tossed away five tonight. The best one of the night was him coming all the way across the lane to help on Morrison. His rotation was right on time and he timed everything perfectly. He scored 10 on 5-11 shooting and had five boards, but was 0-4 from the free throw line. I don’t mind Byron Mullens the jump shooter (when he’s making them), but I’d like to see more of Byron Mullens the physical post player. Kind of a waste to be 7’2″ (evidently) and just stand outside and shooter jumpers.
  • The Thunder shot 52 percent from the field compared to the Lakers 41 percent, yet lost by six. How you ask? Well L.A. shot 17 more times than OKC. Six more offensive rebounds, six fewer turnovers will do that for you.
  • After letting a lot of the non-roster guys play a lot Sunday night, Marcus Dove was the only one that got any time tonight and he saw just four minutes.
  • Just wanted to say that David Monds is a pretty nice player. He had 11 and five tonight and he looks like he could make a roster. He’s not going to blow you away with anything, but he works hard on the glass and just kind of fits in.

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That puts the Thunder at 0-2 in Vegas and 3-4 overall for Summer League play. Which of course means absolutely nothing. Next game is Thursday night at 7:30 CST against San Antonio.

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Andy
Andy 5pts

We could play crazy loud natural disaster sounds in the center every time they made a 3 or whatever.

Andy
Andy 5pts

Four horsemen? Can we name them natural disasters?

Harden- Tornado

Durant- Lightening

Westbrook- Hurricane

Green- Tsunami

That would probably sell tickets...

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

Man, watching Harden play makes it that much harder to wait to take my seat in the Ford Center next season. I can't wait to watch the Three Amigos turn into the four Horsemen. When those four guys gel, it's going to be fun to watch.

I def agree with the prevailing wisdom on Mullens. I don't mind him taking jumpers if he has a perfect open shot, but he does not need to be putting it up everytime he gets the ball. Some work on his hands would also be a lot of help. He really fumbles passes - maybe because he's getting ahead of himself or maybe because he's just that way. I don't know, but it's got to get better. Glad he had a good game otherwise. No reason to be overly critical of a guy who is clearly a project and who is showing signs of progress.

Royce
Royce 5pts

@Kev
Spot on about Mullens. TOO many jumpshots and it seems like he's playing like he wants to prove something. Every time the ball goes into him, there's a 90 percent chance he's shooting it.

Kev
Kev 5pts

Lakers game observations:

1) Better ball movement! I love having Harden, Livingston, and Weaver all on the outside. It’s beautiful watching the ball zip around without dribbles! That’s winning basketball! Durant, for all his value, slows the ball down. Ditto for Westbrook. Are we as good without those two? Of course not. Still, I wish they’d watch (or better have them watch with Brooks) how much easier it is to score the ball when it moves quickly.

2) Geesh, Mullens still jacks up too many jumpers. Do we really need this guy shooting 22 footers? His post game continues to bother me. Outside of Dirk Nowitzki (not a true post player) I’ve never seen a seven footer consistently post eighteen feet out. His turnaround jumper is awful. He’s also still over dribbling. On one play, Taylor Rochestie of the Lakers (ex-teammate of Weaver) easily picked him in the post because Mullens was too busy looking at his own dribble.

3) DJ White is just deadly from 15-17 feet. Automatic.

4) Weaver (and others) did a nice job on Adam Morrison, as Morrison was forced to take a lot of bad shots.

5) How about the unselfish play of Harden?? I liked when he caught the ball on the perimeter and IMMEDIATELY dished the ball to a diving Mullens for the easy two. The guy sees the floor BEFORE catching the ball. Great stuff.

6) If Livingston is really healthy, he needs serious work on his jumper. He took a 20 foot jumper and airballed it. Ugh.

Crow
Crow 5pts

But if working as an assistant doesn't cause salary offset and maybe it doesn't or even if it does It might be his best or last shot at head coaching again. I wonder whose idea this was Brooks or Presti. Hard to know what to make of it at this stage.

Elston Turner being interviewed by Minny. One of the guys that would have been better than PJ. Not necessarily in immediate wins but in player relations and results over time. If he gets the job will be interesting to see how he does.

Crow
Crow 5pts

I doubt Cheeks takes it since I think he is getting paid by the 76ers for the next season or two and anything he'd earn from another job probably would be taken out of that if it is the same with assistant gigs as it is commonly for taking another Head Coach job. It is good to try to get a former NBA head coach as a #1 though. Not sure how good an Xs and Os guy he is.Probably middling at best. Portland got worse on offense and defense every year til he was fired. In Philly the offensive and defensive ratings swung around but the wins didn't improve.

Pete
Pete 5pts

what's with all the negativity? Mullins and Ibaka have been great thus far. Playing five games in five days, traveling and losing in Vegas is no shame. Seek out the positive. We've got too much young talent to worry about every tiny mistake.

Alex
Alex 5pts

Sure...It's down at the bottom.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aj.G1LSZRbirCxRdFP8Ixlg5nYcB?slug=aw-iversonclippers071409&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Royce
Royce 5pts

@Alex
Nice find Alex. Do you have a link for that?

Alex
Alex 5pts

This may have already been discussed, but I thought this little Thunder tidbit in Adrian Wojnarowski's latest article was intriguing...

"Maurice Cheeks has been offered a job on Scott Brooks’ staff with the Oklahoma City Thunder. He’s still deciding."

John
John 5pts

Well, we can only hope that Weaver cuts down on the stupid stuff. Grabbing 8 boards isn't too shabby, and 3 assists to 4 turnovers isn't a horrible night running the point. Westbrook had a lot of stupid turnovers last year, maybe Weaver just needs some more experience. At least, like you said, he's always working hard defensively. I think he's our best long-term option at backup PG unless Livingston gets his explosiveness back. I think someone earlier said they saw a lot of Tulsa in Weaver's future, and probably that will be best for him (and us!) if he gets to run the point for a few months.

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