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Setting the Bar: Russell Westbrook

by Royce Young on September 9, 2009 at 12:33 pm 29 Comments

We took a look at a list of goals for the entire Thunder team a couple weeks ago. But let’s get detailed. Let’s get specific. I’m going to dig in and hit on some individual goals for a few players that would define a successful season. So what meters for success should we set for Russell Westbrook?

The previously mentioned 3:1 assist to turnover. That may be a little ambitious, but that’s a big time goal for him. I don’t think Westbrook will be a 10 assist a game kind of guy, but he’s got to limit turnovers. So if he can hover around six or seven a game and keep his turnovers under three, that’s what we’re looking for. Oklahoma+City+Thunder+v+New+York+Knicks+7aMN8qonaXGl

At least receive some votes for NBA All-Defense. Remember when Sam Presti drafted Westbrook? Remember the supposed reasons he was taken? He was an elite defender in college and that’s what he was expected to be in the NBA. And he was solid last year. At times he’d have lapses, but for the most part he played with great energy, made some plays and has good instincts. But he needs to take it to the next level. He needs to start catching people’s attention. A defensive backcourt of Thabo and Westbrook could be scary good. But Russ has got to pull his weight and get there.

Shoot at least 42 percent from the field. Last year, his field goal percentage was, let’s say, not awesome. He finished right under 40 percent which is kind of like hitting .200 in baseball. In fairness to Russ, a lot of that stemmed from him taking shots at the end of the 24, missing multiple times on putbacks and also, well, not being a great jumpshooter. If he can start finishing around the rim, he could easily be a 42-45 percent guy. I’ve written about his shooting abilities and compared it to that of Rajon Rondo, Chris Paul and Deron Williams. An ideal game for Westbrook would be 5-11 from the floor with at least six or seven free throw attempts.

Shoot 35 percent from three. He shot just 27 percent last year from three. That’s not a great number but don’t freak out. A lot of point guards don’t shoot the three well and some don’t shoot it at all. Westbrook needs to be that selective three-ball kind of guy because he’s not a great shooter. But he’s got to be able to knock one down when it’s presented to him and he’s got to have other guards respect it. With his driving ability and quickness, you don’t want defenders sagging off you, neutralizing your speed. You want them up on you, giving you a better, more effective first step.

Average 13 or fewer shots a game. He’s a point guard. While he’s a scoring point guard, he’s still the distributor. Last year, he put up 13.4 shots a game. Not a crazy high number (Chris Paul – 16.1, Deron Williams – 14.5, Rajon Rondo – 9.5, Steve Nash – 11.5), but that’s a solid chunk of the team’s shots. And with the addition of James Harden, the scoring burden should be lifted a little from Westbrook. While that doesn’t mean he should average fewer points – because I think he’ll average more – it means he needs to score more efficiently. Score 16 points on 11 shots, not 14.

Get to the line at least six times a game. Last year, Westbrook averaged 5.2 foul shots a game and even had a high of eight a game in February. He’s best when he’s attacking the rim and with his deadly quickness, he can draw fouls with the best of them. Now with another year and a little more respect, I’d imagine Westbrook getting a few calls. He’s a good free throw shooter and getting to the line is free points. And when you’re not a high percentage shooter, free throws are about as high percentage as you get.

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Have at least three triple doubles. Too big a number? Too small? I don’t really know. But three seems realistic and fair to me. Westbrook had one last year with his 17-10-10 performance against Dallas with no KD. He can be an animal on the glass so as long as he pulls down some boards, triple doubles will be in his future. He had nine games last year with double-digit assists and four with double-digit rebounds. The key is staying consistent and I think with a year under his chops, he can do it.

Ideal stats: 16.5 ppg, 6.5 apg, 4.5 rpg, 2.0 spg, 2.7 turnovers per game, 43 percent from the field, 35 percent from three. If Westbrook can replicate stats somewhere near that, the Thunder’s in for a nice season. He averaged 3.4 turns a night last year, so cutting into that number would be big, but getting his assists and scoring up while also bringing up his efficiency is equally important.

What say you Rumbleheads? Define some success for Russell Westbrook.

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Keith
Keith 5pts

I think 44% shooting should be the goal. For one, shooting invariably goes up for just about everyone in their first 2-3 years. For two, Russell missed a whole lot of very high percentage shots last year. If he makes the normal increase in FG% plus hits those shots around the rim at a more reasonable rate for their proximity, he should get 44% easily. Other than that, I'm less worried about turnovers and more worried about whether he's making the right pass or just forcing something. If he has 3+ turnovers per game but isn't forcing anything, then more power to him.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

I'm of the opinion that when a guy has a nose for the ball, you let that natural instinct work for you. Let Russell rebound, and have Harden or Thabo rotate back to cover the backcourt. Just turn Russell loose on the glass, especially when Thabo is in the game. Thabo isn't a scoring option at the 2, so let him take the backcourt D to prevent a breakaway while Russell serves as the scoring option and rebound wizard.

I'm not talking 10 a game, but when the guy has something uncanny going for him, you might as well let it work for you.

Anyway, I agree with dj, about individual stats and fantasy. BUT, they do translate to success, and Russell does need to increase his efficiency and shooting percentages while lowering his turnovers. Decision making is his biggest need, along with slowing the game down, and those aren't measurable stats. So I agree, but I disagree too.

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

@Royce
I'd replace DJ White with Nick Collison in that trio, but yeah, I agree.

Royce
Royce 5pts

@okcnba
Precisely. Hopefully there's fewer for Russ to grab. OKC was a good rebounding team last year without any guy being a semi-dominant rebounder. Hopefully Jeff Green/Nenad Krstic/D.J. White becomes that guy meaning Russ doesn't have to be on the glass as much.

At least that's my thinking.

okcnba
okcnba 5pts

@Nix
I kind of dissagree with you there. Assuming his vision and understanding for the game have gone up; as well as he'll be starting this year with better scorers around him I'd think that assists are the most likely to go up. Rebounds, even for a ball hawking athletic freak like Westbrook, is largely dependent on the way the ball bounces. He'll get his share of rebounds because he does seem to have an eye/drive for them, but there isn't really any reason to think his numbers on the boards will drastically improve especially considering his position. If DJ White can snag some rebounds, Jeff Green has improved on defense (at all), and Kristic is in any way back to his pre-injury NJ form, than the boards won't be there the same way for Russ this year as they were last.

Nix
Nix 5pts

@DSMok1
I just realized I missed that stat...

Ideally Russ would improve on that... and I think he has the best chance at improving on his rebounds...

DSMok1
DSMok1 5pts

Josh :
I think the numbers you suggested are about the best (overall) we could hope for from Russ in only his second year. I’d be surprised (and thrilled) if he gets his TOs below 3 a game and I think it might also take a few more years till he can shoot 35 percent on threes. I wonder what his PER would be if he put up the numbers you suggest above, 18? 20? That would be quite a leap for a second year player as young as Russ.

The PER for that is 20.0

Why are the "ideal" rebounding stats for Westbrook below last year's stats? Last year he had 4.9 reb/game, and he wasn't starting the whole year!

Warren
Warren 5pts

One of the things I love to watch is when Russ crashes the boards, and gets a nasty put back. One of the things I hate most about Russ is when he leaves his man to crash the glass and misses, and his man leaks out and gets the easy lay-up.

dj
dj 5pts

This individual stat stuff is ok for the fantasy guys, but there's only one stat that really matters... wins.

Personally, I'm looking to see Westbrook become a better decision maker on offense and a difference maker on defense. He needs to be leader. I don't know what the stats are for that but I'll know it when I see it.

Another thing will be how well James Harden is integrated into the offense. That's not all on Westbrook, but as PG he has as much or more to do with it than any other member on the team except James Harden himself.

Walter
Walter 5pts

@Joe
That's true - we know pretty much what Durant is going to do - continue the steep curve of improvement, probably with or without Westbrook's help.

Westbrook on-song can help make him and the team's overall improvement that much better, and he can start by finding open shooters. Brooks seems to think Sefolosha's corner 3s are much improved and with Harden available, maybe some penetration by RW with said shooters draining the shot might be enough to reinforce that this is the way to play point guard.

Joe
Joe 5pts

Honestly, he's probably the most important Thunder player this season in terms of what he does being directly tied to wins and losses. He needs complete improvement in all the areas listed for sure.

I've been spending a lot of time rewatching Thunder games I saved on DVR, and watching youtube clips of the team, and RW is just really dominant sometimes. Others not so much, but he is totally a linchpin for the upcoming season like no other player on the Roster.

Walter
Walter 5pts

@Bryan
Yep, I agree about pick'n'roll plays - it should be the bread and butter play for someone with the explosive dribbling ability he has. That said, he needs a quality smart big man to help him there.

Stats-wise I think turnovers down and assists up with a fg% boosted by actually making some of the at-rim lay ups. If he starts making those 45% has to be a reasonable goal.

Congrats Royce (and Joe?) on this site. I have been a daily reader since your two separate blogs started.

Tapdog72
Tapdog72 5pts

If he splits the difference between where he was last year (approx. 5:3) and the 3:1 ratio, it would be 7:3, or slightly better than 2:1. That would really help. The question is, what happens to the 'bad' possessions? Does he shoot better instead of missing? Does he get to the line instead of turning it over? Or does he pass to open guys and get more assists?

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

I would agree those are all great goals for RW. But, I really have only one request for him: learn to dribble out of the trap in the lane and not pick up rock until you KNOW what the heck you are going to do with it.

Oh, and some nice pick-n-roll play would be nice to see, as well as some improvement on fighting through screens.

I think that's it...Oh wait. And don't get dominated by Derick Rose in the second half of a game and cost the team a win!!!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

his assists should go up simply because there are better shooters on the floor in harden, dj white and livingston that will miss less wide open shots. passing to watson, wilkens, atkins or rose didnt help because they all shot below 40%.

Nix
Nix 5pts

@MartzMimic
From what I saw of summer league that is definitely the case. The good thing about that was the turnovers that were other player's fault were rarely, if ever, James Harden's fault.

MartzMimic
MartzMimic 5pts

While I agree with those goals, I think we also need to remember that turnovers also have something to do with the others on the court. As I recall, a fair number of Russ' turnovers in summer league really weren't his fault.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

I posted in the last "Setting the Bar" article what I hope for each player. This is what I hope for Russell this year.

Russell: Add 3% to each shooting category. 43% FG, 30% 3P, 84% FT. Cut his turnovers-per-game average in half.

While my list is short, that's basically all I really want for this next season.

Nix
Nix 5pts

When I hear trade rumors involving OKC and Brent Barry I just think about Kurt Thomas.

Watch us get Barry and before the deadline trade him to a playoff team for a future first round pick.

GAP
GAP 5pts

I agree with the assesment of Russ and the only thing other than that is like what Alex said, his decision making skills because we all saw how he would get trapped in the paint picking up his dribble or going for a jumpshot, having a defender contest and not having a place to pass at all which could be attributed to a lot of his turnovers.

Nix
Nix 5pts

Durant's article in three years should read something like this:

SCORE 100+ POINTS IN ONE GAME

AVERAGE 50+

SCORE 30+ POINTS WITH YOUR BACK TO THE BASKET

BLOCK LEBRON 15+ TIMES IN ONE GAME

Nix
Nix 5pts

Great article...I can't wait to see one of these on all the other players...especially Livingston...

Nix
Nix 5pts

Not only do I think that would be a successful season for him, but I think that would equal playoffs for us.

(I don't think he'll make this great of an improvement, and that's why I don't see us in the playoffs)

Royce
Royce 5pts

@Josh
Right. That's why I called it "Ideal Stats." That's what we'd love to see Russ average this year. I'm not predicting those by any means. If he hit those numbers, it'd be a very successful season for him.

Shawn
Shawn 5pts

Russell is a great 2nd player. He can show up in spots, and back down for Durant in others. His Orlando Summer league performance was great, not out of this world to average 20/7/5 this year.

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Josh
Josh 5pts

I think the numbers you suggested are about the best (overall) we could hope for from Russ in only his second year. I'd be surprised (and thrilled) if he gets his TOs below 3 a game and I think it might also take a few more years till he can shoot 35 percent on threes. I wonder what his PER would be if he put up the numbers you suggest above, 18? 20? That would be quite a leap for a second year player as young as Russ.

Alex
Alex 5pts

Everything you said with the addition of better play in late game situations...That was a big one for me last year. Less turnovers, better decision making, and more control.

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