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Kyle Weaver is the best player in the NBA

by Royce Young on December 16, 2009 at 1:13 pm 29 Comments

Well, at least according to John Hollinger’s player efficiency ratings.

Kyle Weaver PER1

One of these is not like the others… can you find it? Now, in Hollinger’s defense, his real rankings and not projected rankings don’t have Weaver anywhere near the top 50. That’s because Weaver has not played near enough to actually qualify. Maybe there was a bug in Hollinger’s formula that let Weaver slip through here. But who cares, right now Weaver is the best of the best. Someone needs to clip this and send it to Mr. and Mrs. Weaver for their refrigerator. Weaver’s future grandchildren don’t have to know he’d only played in three games.

But you know what? Anytime you sit on top of LeBron, Chris Paul, Tim Duncan and Chris Bosh, you’re doing something right. Even if you’ve only played 30 minutes total this season.

(tip of the cap to reader Matthew Chatelain)

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AKBar
AKBar 5pts

@f5alcon
Yeah ... Cause that totally means he won't excel in the NBA. I mean it's just like Brandon Jennings ... D'Oh!

Royce
Royce 5pts

@f5alcon
Sure.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

royce can you change the image type the large bmp file is slowing down my page loads

Taz-Maniac
Taz-Maniac 5pts

I think that he will remain that way if he does not come back this year. I pointed this out on November 26

http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/11/thursday-bolts-give-thanks-edition/#comment-33914

and while others have moved around, Weaver has stayed #1 for SG and and has moved up to #1 on the over all.

Chas
Chas 5pts

justin :
I think James Harden would have a great chance if he’s inserted into the starting lineup before the New Year and the Thunder make the playoffs.

I think you're right b/c Westbrook didn't play that many minutes to begin the season but picked it up to close the year while the other rooks hit the "wall".

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

Yeah rubio has done so much in the nba,lol, he is kinda stinking it up in europe this season too, way overrated, makes westbrook look like chris paul.

Harden has no chance of winning ROY but it really doesnt matter, plenty of great players didnt win and plenty of bad players did. mike miller, steve francis and damon Stoudamire all won ROY and they are only average role players at best. Besides blake griffin can still come back and win if he dominates 2nd half of the season.

Joe
Joe 5pts

Lefty :
Am I the only one who finds it funny that the “incomprable Don” misspelled the word incomparable?

No, I think it's great too!!

Joe
Joe 5pts

"Kyle Weaver is the best player in the NBA"

Where's the news? We already knew that right?

Josh
Josh 5pts

Not that it matters, but Hollinger's "Projected PER" for Weaver is 10.52, his actual PER is 31.06.

justin
justin 5pts

I think James Harden would have a great chance if he's inserted into the starting lineup before the New Year and the Thunder make the playoffs.

MartzMimic
MartzMimic 5pts

Chris Webber and Kevin McHale were giving lots of props to Harden last night. They said he had an "old man's game," meaning he plays like a veteran.

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

@justin
I agree with Hollinger with regard to the ROY race (Harden has virtually no chance, barring the injury of Evans and Jennings), but you're right. Anyone who watches the Thunder on a regular basis appreciates what Harden has brought to this team, and would probably draft him over Rubio again (except for Clark Matthews).

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

@justin
Agreed, the only problem is that later on he goes on to say that there have are pretty much "silent rules" about how rookies win the Rookie of the Year, and minutes played is a considerable factor.

justin
justin 5pts

John Hollinger is being a bit obtuse. Obviously if you use value added the players who play more minutes will look better. James Harden isn't that far off from Evans / Jennings in terms of production when he's on the court.

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

Along those lines, Hollinger released his rookie of the year race stats on ESPN Insider.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiem-091216

"To truly understand the depth of the gap [between Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings versus the rest of the rookie class], we have a tool called value added, which subtracts a player's PER from a replacement-level PER and multiplies by minutes played. The idea is not just to reward those who have played well but also those who have done so in large quantities of playing time.

Sort the rookie race that way, and the evidence jumps off the page -- Evans and Jennings nearly double the value added of the next closest rookie, Oklahoma City guard JAMES HARDEN. Seen in this light, it seems highly unlikely that any other player could catch Evans and Jennings in the ROY race, barring injury."

For reference, Harden is 4th in rookies in PER.

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

Am I the only one who finds it funny that the "incomprable Don" misspelled the word incomparable? ;)

justin
justin 5pts

This is weird. There are 17 players in the NBA with a PER over 24.0 (regardless of minutes), and four of them played for OKC. Kevin Durant, DJ White, Kyle Weaver, and Ryan Bowen.

justin
justin 5pts

@Jax Raging Bile Duct

We cut the best player in the NBA, Ryan Bowen has a PER of 31.9

Matt C.
Matt C. 5pts

I was cracking up when I saw this, good to see that he is the most efficient player in the NBA! Just means he has been giving solid minutes... even if it is just 30 for the entire season.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Let's take the projected best player in the NBA and make him our backup PG please.

Royce
Royce 5pts

@Danny
So am I. Joe and I both were pretty big Weaver fans last year. He never really blew you away on the floor, but he was always making positive plays.

Danny
Danny 5pts

To be fair, there are plenty of other players in the NBA who have only played 3 games and 30 minutes. lol

But, really, I loved Weaver's contribution in the little time he has played this season. He's looked fairly solid, and he's made some good plays (on offense and defense).

Small sample size? Absolutely. I'm excited to see him back on the court though.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

weaver for mvp,lol

The one, the only, the incomprable: DON
The one, the only, the incomprable: DON 5pts

This chart is more proof we need to get Bosh

justin
justin 5pts

That's funny and must be some kind of bug. DJ White's PER is 24.75 and he's not on the list.

Dane
Dane 5pts

This is awesome.

Vega
Vega 5pts

That explains why the trade machine has OKC's win total decrease by twenty-one wins every time I put Weaver in a trade.

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