Back on track: OKC locks down on Chicago in the second half to win 98-85

I agree kfmsooner at this point I'd rather Ibaka play PF.

I didn't remember what you mentioned Nax. I did have second thoughts about mentioning Blatche though because he might not be an upgrade or a better fit but was searching to say a different name with more size / length.

Thanks for the info on White playing some center in Tulsa DizzyDai.

I think it is a big deal that Green did not get the run last night. He was never inserted back in the lineup after being removed in either half. I don't think he was hurt. He is not the answer at the 4 for the Thunder. A week or so ago, there was talk of inserting Ibaka for Krstic on this blog. Right move, wrong guy to bench. Green as a sub playing 20-25 minutes and Ibaka starts.

I have been a big proponent of trading Jeff Green now before everyone else figures out he doesn't have the drive to play at a big time level. He has all the size and skill in the world, but not the desire to go out and get it done. Watch the pregame lineup announcement Wednesday night at the FC. If it is anything like what usually happnes, 4 starters will chest bump, dance, run, try and get pumped, and Green will casually stroll off the bench, do a few low 5s, no chest bumping, no excitement, nothing.

How many more nights of lesser talented 4s killing Green on the boards do we need before we try and move Green for a rebounder?

DizzyDai :@Kev
Do you count collecting rebounds and boxing out in your defensive summaries? I’m curious how Krstic is ranked so high?

I don't penalize for boxing out if

a) there was penetration given up by the guard (our defense, like most, requires the big guys to rotate and help if an opponent gets past his man) - obviously, you can't help and box out at the same time . . .

OR

b) the failed box out didn't lead to a score . . .

Again, most of the time when there are offensive rebounds, penetration by the guards cause it . . . I am not at home, but I don't recall penalizing Krstic more than once or twice last night for the above reasons . . . IMO he had an excellent defensive game . . .

Ive wondered about DJ too i think he would be alot of help as far as rebounding goes. I think they should play him alittle bit and see how it acutally works out maybe the thunder wont seemed to get outrebounded so much because the only big guy you can really count on to get rebounds consistantly is serge and maybe sometimes nick.

It's great to see Maynor already as the steady, sweet shooting compliment to Russ. My biggest problem to this point with Russ had been his inability to shoot, allowing defenders to sag and cut off lanes for driving or passing. Maynor doesn't have that issue. If you leave him open, he'll nail a shot. Also, Maynor is considerably better on the pick and roll, both offensive and defensive. We don't run the pick as much as we should (likely due to our personnel not using it well yet), but it's great to know we have someone to do it.

I like Ibaka, and I hope he continues to develop. I'm just a little afraid that he won't end up as good as a starting big man on a championship team. He has the athleticism of Dwight, but so did Chris Wilcox. Wilcox was always potential potential potential for his entire career thus far. He'd make some sweet plays. Every so often he'd have monster games on the glass or scoring, but he could never put it all together. I love Ibaka as a piece of this team, but I'm not even close to being ready to bank on him replacing anyone in the starting lineup.

It is always do fun to read everyone's comments (even the negative ones). The commenters make this blog so awesome (as well as Royce, Joe, J.G. and the Lost Ogle's contributions).

I'm glad we won!

@Kev

Do you count collecting rebounds and boxing out in your defensive summaries? I'm curious how Krstic is ranked so high?

If you see the replay of Maynor's fall, watch the Bulls player standing next to him. He gets that face that I do when watching horrible injuries. In fact, he's reluctant to run back down the court for the 5 on 4.

I'm really enjoying the small line-up of Maynor, Westbrook, Harden, Collison, and Ibaka. It just swarms on D. I remember pre-season talking about how much Westbrook would hate playing the two and that he would cry about it. Looks to be having some fun to me!

Royce :@justinYour negatively towards Green is more mystifying.
Yes, Green can be inconsistent. But I just don’t understand what the reason is to be this upset nightly about him when he’s playing a significant role on a winning team. His last 10 games: 19 points, 21, 12, 17, 6, 6, 18, 12, 8, 6. Rebounds: 8, 7 ,9, 4, 2, 4, 5, 7, 1.
Jeff’s crime is more that he’s inconsistent and not that he’s not good, as you think. Like I said, I see it more as he fills a role. He scores when needed, hits big time shots and I see his defense as much improved. He’s fine playing second, third and sometimes fourth fiddle. It’s hard to find guys that are willing to do that.
No, he’s not a David Lee double-double machine. No, he’s not Tim Duncan. And yes, he’s had some bad nights. But he’s a third year guy that’s 23 years old. I think he’ll get better.
Like I’ve said all along, I’m not Green apologist. If there is a better option that improves the team, I’m all about it. But I don’t think anything drastic needs to be done because a guy has had a rough two weeks.

Amen!

Just take into account that Presti likes character guys and trading for/signing a guy like Blatche is probably not something he is considering. Remember the whole soliciting a prostitute incident a couple years ago?

Crow :I’d be interested to hear how White’s defense has been in the D-league- effort and results.
And if they tried him at center much. Probably not but I would.

White has been actually listed as center in the last few 66ers boxscores.

***Okay okay sure Green is in a slump, much like KD and RW have had already this year. But we have coaches and assistants for a reason, theyll get him back into shape. We should just be thankful that we have good enough players on the team to stay fighting when someone goes into a slump. Green isn't hitting, Krstic and Collison will step up. Westbrook can't sink a jumper and forgets he can drive, Harden drains a three and Maynor throws 5 assists. KD can't hit the broad side of a barn, Ibaka blocks a few shots and Thabo grabs a few steals ending in RW and Green alley-oops. We have the talent to compete and win vs anyone in the league on any given night, you just got to believe....****

.....Now if life were a movie I would be standing right now, camera paning into my face you can see the fire in my eyes and hear my voice crack. Slowly everybody else stands up softly first, then louder "Believe...Believe...be" then mass caos ensues with yelling like lil girls, chest bumps and the camera sweeps to the black and white teamates, who were enemies to start the movie, now hugging softly......

and scene.

@Royce
don't mean to hate on Green, it's just that he doesn't seem to put much effort into getting into position for defensive rebounds. He doesn't box out; doesn't jump for the ball; doesn't find his man well; he just stares at the hoop, and if it appears to come his way, he grabs it. I'm sorry, but that's just not going to cut it. He has a knack for making the other team's 4 look like Dennis Rodman in comparison. Gibson owned him tonight during the 14 min he was out on the court. The only thing lacking is a bunch of people gathered around him in a circle holding hands with their heads bowed, cause that seems to be his only tactic for rebounding: praying. You can slump with shooting, you can go on turnover binges, but rebounding is all about effort. Same with defense. Ever hear Bruce Bowen complain about his foot-speed slump??? and it's hurting the rest of the game, too. You can tell he's pressing on the offensive end in a way to compensate for his dude going all bill russell on the offensive glass on his watch. it's killing his confidence. that more than anything is probably why he got benched tonight.

82 games has Westbrook at SG for only about 40-50 minutes but completely rippin' it up on both sides of the ball. Harden not quite as dramatic but still very good in limited SF time. Probably favorable matchups or maybe some garbage time but I'd play with both usages and see how often you could benefit from these twists. Squeeze edge especially offensive edge, wherever, however you can.

I'd be interested to hear how White's defense has been in the D-league- effort and results.

And if they tried him at center much. Probably not but I would.

Ibaka at 1 foul every 7 minutes is alright for a rookie. That's middle of the pack for all bigs.

Needs to get his FT stroke going.

But he is very close now to being the very very rare 50% FG% on jumpers / 50% frequency of inside shots kind of player. He is at 48% FG% on jumpers and up to 50% freqeuncy on inside shots now. Keep both parts up.

His +/- has improved dramatically.

On the rebounding front with him in the game they do better on the offensive glass but unfortunately so far worse on the defensive glass and by a much larger amount. In general and specifically with Green. That might be fixable. It should be a topic of work.

Why is it that D.J. White gets no mentions whatsoever when it comes to the future of the franchise? He's probably the only player on the roster who provides both toughness and rebounding, and vastly outplayed Byron in the D-league.

A/TO is better than 6:1 right now.
Holding on to 3 or 4 to 1 would be fine.
TO rate right now is only 40% of Westbrook's.

82games just refreshed their data and the early marks for Maynor show him doing swell. http://www.82games.com/0910/09OKC1.HTM

Very strong finishing in the paint. Strong shooting early in the clock but trails off heavily as it advances.

Maynor-Harden-Durant-Ibaka-Collison is night n day better than Maynor-Harden-Green-Ibaka-Collison but at least they are trying both, a bit.

Of course it is small sample but so far it looks like a very nice move by Presti.

Anybody else notice Jeff Green hasn't posted anything on twitter after the game? Random I know.. But maybe he's upset enough to drown out the distractions and focus in on basketball.

To just make the playoffs they might have enough or they might not. Time will tell this season and next season.

To get to the 2nd round they probably need to improve at least 4 net pts per game to be competitive.

That is harder than it sounds.

To actually beat teams in the playoffs they'll probably need more on the frontline than what they've got.

But unlikely anything happens in the next 30 days so I don't plan to say much more on it right now.

Then about 2 weeks of lots of rumors. One more major window for trade talk.

The the trade deadline. 5 months off til trades allowed again. The ideas probably won't stop but the pace may subside.

If you think Green-Krstic has been pretty fully explored then let's hear even more about Ibaka's strengths and weaknesses and personal progress and fitting in. And Maynor. Or specifically what he think Brooks does well or not so well in game management. Those subjects haven't been exhausted yet.

Eventually a good board will exhaust most subjects. Change will come and new topics will show up but often not fast enough.

If you've heard enough on something, I'd say just skim ahead or change the subject.

@jdstorm

You're entitled to your opinion, but let's be real. He didn't improve 'as much' as KD or Russ? How has he improved at all?

This jeff green trade talk is getting ridiculous. Sure he's didn't improve as much as KD or Russ, jeff would start on most teams at either small or power forward. so lets just appreciate what we have.

as a side note i think the funniest PF to trade for would be Tyler Hansbrough from the pacers. Then at any point in the game our starting front court would be Hansbrough and Ibaka

Exactly Brad, though to nitpick, it was 8 teams only early in his career (before even my time), before the NBA started to regularly expand sometime in the mid sixties.

@Rich from Sacramento
Bill Simmons take on Wilt in "the Book of Basketball" is SO good. Everyone should read it, really puts in perspective what he did vs what's done today. Keep in mind he played with some of the greatest talent ever, in a league with 8 teams, and he won only 2 championships.

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Greg :
I love Wilt, the guy was great. His numbers are absolutely mind-boggling. However, I would loved to have seen what he could do against the league’s competition when it wasn’t lacking in size and rather “pale”.

Chamberlain was a terrific athlete, and properly trained, he would have been a star in any era, but his stats aren't easy to compare with, say, Shaq. He was typically guarded straight up, almost always by guys smaller (sometimes much smaller), he played extremely long minutes, and there were alot more rebounds to gather-in back then. His 100 point game was played in a Jersey armory with soft rims.

And he never led a team to a truly contested championship, even when he had plenty of excellent teammates on the 76ers and Lakers. Something always seemed to happen: Havlicek stole the ball, or his coach wouldn't let him back in the game, or Reed stumbles out on the court on one leg, or Cunningham gets hurt. Too many "bad breaks" to be a coincidence. Basically, I think he was a nice guy w/o a killer's instinct, a sort of super-talented Vin Baker. To be fair, he never had a coach as good as Auerbach until Sharman.

Unless they find a team really interested in and right for Green he'll be on the team at least another 16 months. Presti will almost certainly try for top dollar and reject blah deals.

NY and Phoenix might like him and have the right style but they don't "need" him. NJ needs him but doesn't have much they will give up that Presti would want. Washington might have interest and some things to trade- not really on the court need but maybe a change of personnel for image sake. Blatche or Miller- even as a soon to be free agent. Could they carve him out a 20-25 minute role that he'd like and decide to stay? Probably wouldn't meet their mutual goals in a perfect way but if you wanted to improve the offense without disrupting Durant it might be pretty decent. You'd make the time by resting Durant 5 more minutes and upshifting a little more often to PF, cut Thabo 5-10 minutes, cut Harden 5 minutes, maybe play small a little more in general. If you wanted different. Blatche is different from Green I think but I don't claim to know a lot about him. Seems like roughly similar values and with them playing him only 22 minutes maybe they don't think he is the right fit or future. I don't know. Just another ramble on possibilities if you want to read it.

reading the game recap at blogabull.com, which is rather enjoyable.

the funniest part though was reading the thru the game thread where some Chicago fan posted "who the hell is Ibaka?"

Hah. Lots of fans of teams we haven't played yet are going to be saying that. But AFTER we have played them, they're dang sure going to remember the swat king and what he did.

@justin
I think the thought process of our management looks to Ibaka's development in filling that role. A developed Ibaka would play very nicely with Krstic or Green. If he could add on some muscle and size, which his body could clearly support, then he could be a force down low. In that case, you have Ibaka as that rebounding, shot blocking inside presence and Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic to fill roles as more mid range offensive threats.

@Keith

I doubt Nenad Krstic is a long term solution in any scenario.

The problem with your hypothesis is that Howard-esque centers are in short supply. I don't think it's a realistic expectation that our team will acquire a center that is skilled on both ends. It's too expensive.

However, a center that can get defensive rebounds and score efficiently when they get the ball can be had. Emeka Okafor, Brendan Haywood, among others would help Jeff Green a lot.

If there is a trade, of course you look to pair someone with Jeff Green. Jeff Green is a greater talent than Nenad Krstic, is cheaper for the time being, and is considered part of the team's future right now. I think the only scenario you trade Jeff Green is if you're getting that Howard-esque center that can play both ways, since that would not only solve our rebounding problem, but it'd go a long way toward solving the scoring efficiency problem.

So basically, I'd sacrifice Nenad Krstic, cap space, etc. to acquire a defensive minded center that can rebound, box out, and not clog the perimeter. I'd sacrifice that + Jeff Green to get those things as well as some efficient scoring.

Of the two, Krstic and Green, which is more likely to be with this team as it becomes a champion? Despite the slump that Green is in, can anyone honestly say Krstic has been much better? I believe I've said for almost a year now that Green would be fine, good even, next to a Howard-esque (top notch rebounder, post player) center. Honestly is any PF going to look that good next to a center who can't rebound, who has one shot that is actually quite low percentage? If we make a trade, I surely hope it's to pair someone with Green, not pair someone with Krstic.

Michael :
Man…when Maynor went down (my favorite player…I came over with him from the Jazz…went to VCU by the way), I thought he tore his ACL, MCL, and groin. I really did stop breathing for a second. So glad he was okay. I love this team and I am so happy to be in Thunder Nation. Is it possible that we could draft Larry Sanders (also from my beloved Rams) in the draft? That would crazy for VCU fans. The Thunder cheered me up after watching VCU lose to Northeastern tonight.

While not really knowing his game prior to the trade, I am fast becoming a fan because of his hustle and effort, I too thought "Oh Nooooo". I am soooo glad to see him get up and continue.

Its the wonder of youth. Had that happened to me, it would have been the knee through the hip, and then the left shoulder :) !

Raynor :

Royce :@justinYour negatively towards Green is more mystifying.
Yes, Green can be inconsistent. But I just don’t understand what the reason is to be this upset nightly about him when he’s playing a significant role on a winning team. His last 10 games: 19 points, 21, 12, 17, 6, 6, 18, 12, 8, 6. Rebounds: 8, 7 ,9, 4, 2, 4, 5, 7, 1.
Jeff’s crime is more that he’s inconsistent and not that he’s not good, as you think. Like I said, I see it more as he fills a role. He scores when needed, hits big time shots and I see his defense as much improved. He’s fine playing second, third and sometimes fourth fiddle. It’s hard to find guys that are willing to do that.
No, he’s not a David Lee double-double machine. No, he’s not Tim Duncan. And yes, he’s had some bad nights. But he’s a third year guy that’s 23 years old. I think he’ll get better.

I donot see how he could improves in further, he has been in league for 3 yrs after already spent 3 yrs in college. When scouters talking about players stay in college for 3 yrs, they call these players are ready to contribute, e.g ERIC MAYNOR. YOU CAN NOT BELIEVE SOMEONE GONNA GET BETTER BECAUSE HE IS TERRIBLE, I CAN BE BETTER IF I PLAY. I believe Ibaka can improves, ‘coz he shows that progress after every single game. Jeff Green? NONE.

You're implying that people cannot get better after they have been in the NBA for 3 years? Or, let's even add the college years, to make it 6 years. So basically, after 6 years there is no improvement? Tell that to guys like MJ, Kobe, Tim Duncan, Wade, Melo, LeBron, KG, Pierce, Ben Wallace, and countless other players who added to their game or had resurgent seasons. Situations change (KG to Boston), skills can get added (MJ added more post-play, Kobe's mid-range game the last few years, LeBron's ever improving outside shot) and personnel improvement/changes (Shaq to Miami sure didn't hurt Wade, Billups to Denver hasn't seemed to diminish Anthony's game much).

Let's give him a little while longer to see how the team evolves. If he gets traded, maybe it helps him. Like others have said, if we get a certain kind of center to "fill his gaps" (sounds funny but that term sums it up great), then maybe his production and game take off.

Fact is, he's a 3rd year player that is having a rough go at it right now. Let's re-analyze this mid-season, closer to the trade deadline. Either way, I think we'll see consistency (whether it's all good or all bad.)

I still think Jeff has room and potential to improve, it's just like what has been mentioned before; his situation is just not conducive to his game or skills right now and he's struggling to succeed it in. But...this is just my opinion on the topic at hand.

Defensive Breakdown

After the first quarter, the Thunder probably played its best defense of the season. The game scored a +48, which is the fourth best overall. It seemed like the Thunder defenders were everywhere, and that on defense we were playing seven on five. The only chink in the armor was the penetration given up to Derrick Rose.

Defensive MVP – Thabo Sefolosha (+10)

Thabo had his usual array of defensive gems, and included were four deflections. Even better was when he was assigned to guard Rose at about the three minute mark in the second quarter. After that point, when Thabo was in the game, he stayed on Rose. The second year point guard had been getting by Westbrook in the first quarter, but Thabo was able slow him after that. I really don’t know why Brooks didn’t start the game with Thabo guarding Rose.

Nenad Krstic (+10)

People keep criticizing Krstic, but IMO he is a decent defender. He drew a charge and blocked a shot. He also had four contests. In addition, he forced Bulls forward Luol Deng to shoot a brick in the fourth quarter. He may not bang like a typical seven foot center, but he’s not a statue either.

Eric Maynor (+9)

Eric Maynor is a joy to watch when he is on defense. The pick and roll is the staple of NBA playbooks, and Eric gets around the pick quicker and better than Westbrook. He changes direction quicker and he recovers quicker. To illustrate, let’s look at one of his plays in the fourth quarter.

Kirk Hinrich has the ball out top. Bulls forward Tyrus Thomas sets the pick on the left. Hinrich goes around it, and Maynor is able to step up. If Maynor had not stepped up, he would have taken a full body shot from Thomas, and this would have taken him out of the play. By stepping up, he is only slightly bothered on his side. After Hinrich heads turns to head toward the goal, Nick Collison (the screener’s defender) was there to hold Kirk up. Kirk pulled up from about seventeen feet; he is very accurate from this distance. Maynor caught up and timed his block attempt perfectly. Not only that, he grabbed the ball out of the air, and after a quick dribble he snapped a pass way downcourt to Westbrook, who scored on a layup.

Nick Collison (+7)

We know that Nick is the master at drawing charges, but he’s not bad at intercepting passes either. In the fourth quarter, after a scramble, he finds himself guarding Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich. James Harden comes over to help out. Instead of sitting there, Collison knows that someone else is open. He gives ground without turning his head – he backpedals. This is important because he can still see the ball. Brad Miller is in the low post for the Bulls, and Hinrich attempts a side bounce pass. Collison reads it and intercepts the ball before it gets to Kirk. We are ranked 8th in defensive NBA efficiency, and Collison is one of the reasons why.

James Harden (+6)

Harden got in on the fun tonight. This was his best defensive game in a long while (+9 vs. Detroit, December 18th). His best play was a nice strip on Luol Deng in the fourth quarter.

Serge Ibaka (+6)

Ibaka had a big-time stuff late in the third quarter. Kirk Hinrich had gotten free of defender Eric Maynor via a pick. After Ibaka slowed Hinrich’s advance in the lane, Hinrich dished the ball off to Tyrus Thomas. Ibaka met him at the goal and timed it beautifully. I think Thomas wanted to slam it home, but Ibaka wasn’t having it. It was a great block, and Ibaka likes to get at least one of these a game. That’s the problem; sometimes he is overaggressive. I will elaborate on future breakdowns.

Jeff Green (+3)

Kevin Durant (+3)

Russell Westbrook (-5)

More of the same . . .

I love Wilt, the guy was great. His numbers are absolutely mind-boggling. However, I would loved to have seen what he could do against the league's competition when it wasn't lacking in size and rather "pale".

Oh, I should've mentioned: six more turns for KD tonight. Eek.

Whatever Green's skill level actually is, I can't remember any winning team where neither the starting PF or Center could post-up, rebound, or block shots with any regularity. Starting Collison might indeed help Green the way Gary Larson allowed Alan Page to freelance to an MVP award (ok, I'm dating myself). He's a bit undersized, but so were Cage and Perkins and they proved to be serviceable at center, although playing next to a young Shawn Kemp probably helped a bit.

Green struck me as an odd draft choice at the time, after selecting Durant, since he had established himself as having a small forward's game at Georgetown. I suppose it was one of those "best available athlete" choices, with the expectation that if he didn't work out he could be traded.

Ok, our L10 (last ten game) record is 7-3. That's mighty good. Let's see how it stacks up in the Western Conf.

Only the Lakers (duh), Portland, and San Antonio are better - they are all 8-2.

The only other team with as good a streak, tied with us at 7-3 is Memphis -- they've been on a tear lately.

If you include the Eastern Conf, only 3 more teams pop up. Cleveland, which is 8-2, and Orlando and Toronto, both at 7-3.

So only 4 teams in the NBA have a better L10 record than the Thunder as of tonight. 3 other teams with matching.

That's some good stuff!

Vega :@f5alcon

When I read that, the first Wilt record that popped to mind was his claiming to have slept with 20,000 women. When in that context, that post becomes quite funny.

lol yeah, so many women, but probably had days with a few dozen, i mean it all depends on what slept with means, is it clinton's definition? im kinda curious, and envious.

But i was looking at some of his records. one season he averaged 50.4 PPG, we all were happy with durants 7 30 point games in a row, wilt had 7 50 point games in a row, career 22 RPG, maybe we can dig up his remains and clone him

Wilt would have had to sleep with a woman a day for 52 years in order to sleep with 20,000 women.

I can sympathize with the idea of him being a 6th man, but that would be well into the future. But for him to move to the bench, it would require a better option on the bench.. and there is none. Until we have a better power forward than Jeff Green, there's no point in shaking the guy's confidence. However, by the time we could even acquire a power forward up to the "standards" of some, I wouldn't be surprised if Green has developed into the player he's capable of, and everyone's happy. Not a bit surprised.

Scott Brooks certainly run some plays for Jeff Green. He is our co-captain this year, we have good team chemistry, I believe the coach want to give Green some plays, the reason we did not see that plays is simple because Green doesnot has a efficient move, what ever it is, 3pts or mid-jumpers or back to basket. Jeff Green doesnot has a comfortable zone to score, so some night he hits couple 3pts, and some night he doesnot even take a 3pts shoot.

@Raynor
Yes. I thought the most dynamic play of the year was Jeff Green's left handed dunk on Houston in OKC.

@f5alcon
When I read that, the first Wilt record that popped to mind was his claiming to have slept with 20,000 women. When in that context, that post becomes quite funny.

@f5alcon

Yeah, not the best, because that title belongs to Earlington Watsonington

justin :@Raynor
Here are some skills Jeff Green has:
- Good athleticism for a SF, Great athleticism for a PF- Good hands- Good first step- Good foot work- Average passer- Average 3pt shooter (I think he’s a career 33% 3pt shooter long term)- Good mid range game- Good FT shooter- Excellent on the fast break (never gets opportunities)- Good finisher when he gets opportunities
The problem with Jeff is that he can’t exploit many of these abilities in our lineups. Crowded perimeter, nobody to help on the defensive boards, having to crash defensive rebounds (precludes the break), no plays really run for him.. those things hurt his productivity.
He definitely has skills. He’s just not productive. Big difference.
Jeff Green is much more talented basketball wise than Stromile Swift..

I would replace all "good" with "average".
One play today really let me gave up on Jeff Green when rest of the team were battleing defensive rebound, Jeff Green was running fast break alone, and stoped at central of court, waited his teammates. Actually I LOVE how Jeff Green played in rookie year, so many back doors and powerful dunks, sadly can someone remembers any highlight fromm Green?

@Vega

Check out my list.. Jeff Green has skills. Just not in a position to exploit many of them.

Scott Brooks should run some plays for Jeff Green. Run him off some screens like we do for KD, run some pick and pop offense with him like we do with Nenad Krstic. I think he's an average passer, run some pick and roll stuff with him, get him rolling to the basket. Put him in position near the basket with the ball, he's a good finisher usually.

Sometimes we get too singular on offense trying to get KD the ball. I think Green could be utilized better on offense to at least make up for some of his weaknesses.

yeah i dont think chamberlains record will ever fall, he is the most dominate player of all time, maybe not the best, but most dominant for sure