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2010 Draft Prospectus – Part I

by J.G. Marking on February 8, 2010 at 2:30 pm 126 Comments

(Typically, DT contributor J.G. Marking has the Sunday page, but with the draft coming and OKC holding five picks, it’s time to take a small peek. And that’s what we’ll do over the next few days.)

There is a serious problem with the 2010 Draft, folks. One that most Thunder fans didn’t expect and could have never prepared for coming into the season.

It’s not talent. There’s more than enough talent in this draft to have most scouts and GM’s drooling no matter how many “gurus” claim that there are only “2, 3, 4, well probably 5, maybe even 6 elite talents” (it’ll keep fluctuating until draft day) in this class.

So what gives? What’s the problem with this draft class?

The Thunder are winning too much.

I know, I know. I should probably stop complaining about my diamond forks being too sharp and my gold slippers fitting too tight but when it comes to doing a draft prospectus, you typically want to be looking at players who can make an immediate impact or be potential All-Stars and most of those players are usually in the Top 5, maybe 6 of a draft.

Where are the Thunder slated to pick based off of the most recent playoff projections? Try around #21, as the West’s 6th seed.

Yay.

But seriously, no one (and I mean no one, no matter what they say) could have seen the Thunder taking this huge of a leap from last year to this year so really, I can’t complain about anything involving a 29-21 record with one game left before the All-Star break. So let’s go ahead and dive in to this draft class to find out how many players the Thunder could realistically grab who could make a positive impact both immediately and in the future.

Before we get started let me begin by saying that I pretty much expect Presti and Co. to trade at least one of their two first round picks in this draft, if not both. Why?

As has been discussed before, they don’t need another rookie on their roster or another project for the future (or the salary these picks would require either). They need a player (a post player, to be specific) who can step in and contribute right away, providing a legit post presence on defense by gobbling up defensive rebounds and protecting the rim, but MORE importantly they need a low-post scoring option on offense.

But I thought everyone has always talked about the Thunder needing that anchor on defense, a shot-blocking, rebounding big more than anything else? Sure, we’ve all heard that and it primarily started and was most accurate last year when the Thunder were a defensive sieve that opponents drove around, through, pretty much anywhere they wanted to go on their way to a flashy dunk. But this year? Not so much.

Sure the Thunder still allow WAY too many shots at the rim and give up an almost inexcusable amount of defensive rebounds, so you’ll hear no argument from me about anyone crying for a shot-blocking, rebounding big for the defensive end. But only if that person can contribute buckets in the post on the offensive end, too.

The reason is simple: the Thunder are an almost exclusively jump-shooting and slashing offensive team. They have no post game of any substance and the stats reflect this. Thus, the Thunder have to work very, VERY hard to produce shots as they get no easy ones from the paint.

On the defensive end, the Thunder are 5th, yes FIFTH in defensive efficiency and are 8th in blocks, due mostly to a team block party mindset (yes, everyone’s invited). Now we’ve already discussed the defensive rebounding woes but that should not be overlooked and will remain a hole that needs to be filled.

If the Thunder ever want to be more than just an annual first round or second round exit from the playoffs, they have to acquire an offensive post player who can and will erase many of the Thunder’s offensive faults and open up the floor for the other four offensive options on the court.

However on offense, the Thunder are all the way down at 18th in Offensive efficiency, 15th in True Shooting % and a woeful 22ndin EffectiveFG% at 48.8%. None of those stats should be surprising, in fact for a team that is almost completely without a low post scoring presence, those numbers are actually pretty impressive.

As the old idiom goes, the further away from the basket you are, the more difficult the shot. We all know this; it’s how a point guard makes a living. The closer you get to the basket the more a (good) defense will collapse to protect the rim, thereby opening up options for a better shot. Thus, a point guard either dishes to a cutting player for a layup/dunk, passes it off to a post player for a dunk whose man has left him to contest the point guard’s potential shot, takes it to the whole himself if he beats his man and no help comes to contest the layup/dunk or he dishes it out to a wide open shooter for a jumpshot.

Obviously the fourth option is exactly that, the last option if the previous three are covered up because, again, the closer you get to the basket the higher your shooting percentage. And that’s where the Thunder hurt the most. They really don’t have a player that they can’t drop it down into the paint and is a big enough scoring threat that other teams have to collapse down or double-team the post player, opening up other options.

And every team knows it. That is precisely why one could be impressed with Durant’s continued and consistent ability to score from anywhere on the floor and how the Thunder continue to pile up win after win. They’re a jump-shooting team without a post presence who is contending for the playoffs.

But no post presence on offense (or defense) equals a “Thanks for coming, enjoy your sweep – The Lakers” come April.

If the Thunder ever want to be more than just an annual first round or second round exit from the playoffs, they have to acquire an offensive post player who can and will erase many of the Thunder’s offensive faults and open up the floor for the other four offensive options on the court (have a look at what Dwight Howard does for his teammates in Orlando, for example). In fact, if the Thunder ever acquired a legitimate big man who could produce in the paint offensively, I think there might be a collective groan heard around the league because this team is already overachieving, now 8 wins over .500, without a true low-post threat.

And no, that’s not a dig at Krstic (though I have made my fair share of critical remarks before) or Green (can’t be upset witha stretch 4 being paired with a REALLY stretched 5) because they are perimeter oriented bigs, who would also both benefit immensely from a true post player.

So all that being said, here is a look at the five players who I believe the Thunder could be in a position to draft.

Side note: I’d really like to thank Chad Ford and Draft Express for sky-rocketing DeMarcus Cousins into the Top 4 when he had really only hovered between picks 8-16 the rest of the year ON THE DAY my prospectus was scheduled to come out. As my buddy Bach can tell you, I’ve been high on Cousins for quite awhile now and had him as my #1 prospect for the Thunder if they could get him since he reminded me of a Zach Randolph or Al Jefferson type of low post scorer/potential game changer.

So again, thanks to the two big draft guru sites for making me scramble hours before this thing went up to re-shuffle my rankings!

Lastly, the highest I can realistically see the Thunder trading up to in this draft is probably the ninth or tenth pick…and even that’s a bit high and hopeful. If the Thunder don’t decide to just trade down and/or out of this draft altogether, they would probably package their two first round picks and some expirings to move up if they could get a player they covet. But I just can’t see the Thunder really moving past #10 to do so.

Simply put, the Thunder just don’t havethe assets they’d need or be willing to give up to moveup higher into this draft. So with that being said, let’s just say that some extremely cap weary team is sitting at the #9 or #10 spot (trying to be realistic) andlooking to give away their draft pick for almost nothing (a la how the Nets are rumored to be looking to deal out of the draft if they don’t land the #1 pick, which would be tremendous for soembody since they will be no worse than 4th come draft night).

Or even better, the Suns take a nose dive the rest of the season and miss the playoffs with the 10th worst record. I’m open to either option.

So the #1 overall player that the Thunder could realistically get their hands on in this draft who could help contribute immediately is…

#1 – Greg Monroe –  6’11, 250 – PF/C – Georgetown
You were expecting someone else here weren’t you? To be honest, so was I about three months ago. But after watching a good amount of the top five bigs this season, when you stack up Strengths vs. Weaknesses for legit big men who have the size and potential playing style to be a great NBA post player (either an oversized 4 or a standard-sized 5), few prospects can match Georgetown big man Greg Monroe.

I’ve watched Monroe more than anyone else that will appear on this prospectus and let me tell you that I don’t feel 100% about having him at #1. It’s kind of like driving to work when your gas gauge is a little below the “E” and the refuel light is glaring at you. This will either be your finest hour as a risk taker—or you’ll be stranded on the side of the road begging for help and kicking yourself for the gamble.

But it’s not because of Monroe’s talents. Top to bottom, there may not be a more skilled big man in this draft, even my personal favorite DeMarcus Cousins. From all accounts, Monroe is a legit 6’11 and250 poundbig man with an NBA ready physique and a tremendous 7’2 wingspan. In short, he has the size and playing style to be an NBA center.

Offensively, Monroe can get buckets from almost any spot on the court. We’re not talking just a post-up big or just a jump-shooting big. Monroe can do both. And he can do them well. Not only does he have an excellent back-to-the-basket style of play but his jumpshot is sound and makes him a fantastic pick-and-pop threat.

But better than anything else is Monroe’s court vision and passing ability, not to mention understanding of the game. He sees the floor and understands when to pass and when to assert his own offense better than just about anyone in this draft. Toss in the fact that he’s a lefty, and Monroe’s unique skill-set should have scouts drooling over the possibility of drafting him just off of his offensive capabilities alone.

But this year Monroe’s defense has also improved. He has shown something that was lacking last year and was a major red flag as a potential NBA post player: he has now shown a desire to become a stout defensive rebounder. A lot of times last season Monroe would be out of position for rebounds because he failed to seal his man in the paint and would only be able to get to rebounds that landed in his immediate vicinity. This year, Monroe is aggressively boxing out and searching for the opportunity to rebound. His improved rebounding average and clear capability have helped calm some individual’s fears that he’d be a defensive rebounding liability (which would have seriously dropped him on this list for the Thunder). Add in his 1.7 blocks per game average in college this year (1.5 last year) and Monroe begins to dazzle you with his potential possibilities.

So Monroe has Top 5 talent…but this is a guy most experts expect to be available in the late lottery if not mid first round. So what gives?

Well for starters, Monroe does not have that jaw-dropping athleticism that most NBA personnel covet down low. He is not an elite leaper or an explosively quick athlete. This might be why Monroe relies so heavily on his skills because he lacks the ability to rely on his sheer athleticism. But please don’t think that Monroe is a stiff (and the reports that say so are preposterous). Monroe can move, and spin, and pivot, and run the floor just fine. After all, he will be a player in the NBA. That right there makes him at least minimally athletic for professional sports standards. He just doesn’t have that “elite” athleticism that some scouts and analysts might unrealistically crave from big men (think Dwight Howard’s freakish athleticism).

Secondly, and most troubling of all, is Monroe’s seemingly neutral-running engine. He is probably one of the most frustrating talents to watch because you can literally see him shifting in and out of focus throughout a game, leaving you desperate to see a fully tuned-in and intense Monroe when he posts numbers and competes like he did against Butler (24 points, 15 rebounds, and 2 blocks) and Villanova (29 points, 16 rebounds and 4 blocks).

Thompson has definitely seemed to show that a coach can get through to Monroe and encourage him to tap into his deep potential on a regular basis while at Georgetown, but if it’s hard to accomplish for 34-36 game season, what would an 82 game year look like?

All that to say, if the Thunder can somehow grab Monroe with the first pick of this draft given their current position, it’d be a steal and I’d be doing back-flips…if I could. Why would I be so excited over a player who might or might not want to give 100% every night, whose not a great, explosive athlete and who has shown promise in rebounding but is not exactly dominant at it?

First off, I’m pretty sure being on this Thunder team would make ANYONE come to play every night. Seriously, when have we ever complained about a lack of hustle or effort from this team? Hard work and intensity are contagious. And Monroe has shown that he is capable of maintaining that focus and drive in his sophomore season.

Secondly, there was another prospect that Monroe reminds me of regarding a lot of the criticisms scouts had about him as a big man. And although Monroe is a little shorter (2 inches) than this player and a little better passer, well, just have a look at what that player’s list of strengths and weaknesses said:

Strengths:

  • Big, long center who has a strong offensive game with the ability to score inside and out.
  • Smart, skilled player who maximizes his strengths.
  • Decent low-post game with an array of basic moves around the basket.
  • Is a good shooter with the ability to knock down an 18-foot jump shot.

Weaknesses:

  • Although he’s a good athlete for his size, he’s not particularly explosive.
  • Not a dominant rebounder
  • Too inconsistent as a shot-blocker
  • Takes bad shots from time to time

Sound familiar?

This player’s name: Brook Lopez.

Obviously I’m not saying Monroe will turn out to be as good as Brook Lopez, but the potential is there for him to be a contributor at the next level. And a good one at that, especially for this team.

Tune in tomorrow for the #2 prospect…

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Bobby Brigantino
Bobby Brigantino 5pts

Helpful and good things you have here. Keep on! I am usually looking to learn on that topic.

Crow
Crow 5pts

(It is trivia, but if you wondered about two different agents listed for Vin Baker, I think it went down that he changed after he got his big contract.)

Sanders would probably be the best athlete available, if available when they pick.

Michael
Michael 5pts

I think that Larry Sanders of VCU would be a great addition to the team. He played with Eric Maynor for two years at Virginia Commonwealth. He has a ton of upside and will be able to rebound and defend immediately. The man is 6'10 with a SEVEN FOOT SEVEN wingspan. He has no injury issues and can play a ton of minutes. Furthermore, he would benefit greatly from defending with a shorter shot clock.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DizzyDai
i agree, and that whole smallest market is a bunch of BS also, the jazz and new orleans are smaller, if they use just OKC itself as the measurement its smaller, but its the same size as boston itself, but of course there they use metro, but not for OKC. Just wait til census results come out, OKC metro will be over a million, and really the thunder draw fron the whole state, kansas and western missouri and arkansas.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Keith

The yankees have only been buying championships for a decade and it has only yielded one, their late 90s run was mostly farm team players, jeter was grown in the organization. Also RFA in baseball are handled way differently, teams have to give compensation.

The NFL gets away with non guaranteed contracts because of the injury rate, if they had to pay injured players they would go bankrupt. The nba probably will never go to that, some amount will always be guaranteed.

It isnt like presti hasnt made any trades or free agent signings, he has swapped out nearly the entire team except collison from what he started with, green, maynor, ibaka, weaver, dj white, thabo, mullens and thomas are all here from trades. krstic, ollie were free agents, only durant,westbrook and harden are our own draft picks.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

Mark! :

I am the DON :Don’t mean to interrupt the discussions that are already taking place here, but everyone take a look at this article by Frank Hughes. I did not like his tone as it came across like he was trying to stir the pot. KD with great quotes at the end of the article….http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/02/08/monday.durant/index.html

We need to get used to articles that have a tone like that; probably need to be ready for worse.
There are a lot of different sympathies in play out there, and there won’t be a ton of people looking to play up OKC in the national media. They have bigger fish to fry and, like they say, we’re a small market.

Every decent national article that I've read so far tends to give OKC a back-handed compliment. I'm already sick of it.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

I really liked Monroe during last year's draft as well. I'm surprised to see his draft stocking falling out of the lottery, but I agree that we should target Monroe if he is available.

I've mentioned this before, but I don't see Krstic hanging around much longer. Monroe ability to pass the ball and stretch the floor will put Krstic out. I'm really wondering how the Thunder will handle their other big men, especially D.J. White and Byron Mullens.

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

I am the DON :Don’t mean to interrupt the discussions that are already taking place here, but everyone take a look at this article by Frank Hughes. I did not like his tone as it came across like he was trying to stir the pot. KD with great quotes at the end of the article….
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/02/08/monday.durant/index.html

We need to get used to articles that have a tone like that; probably need to be ready for worse.

There are a lot of different sympathies in play out there, and there won't be a ton of people looking to play up OKC in the national media. They have bigger fish to fry and, like they say, we're a small market.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Presti likes players with fast feet and long reach. Looking down the list of who he has added as to who is above average at one or the other I'd say it is Westbrook both, Maynor feet, Thabo both, Harden length, Durant length maybe feet now on defense too, Green feet, White probably neither, Krstic maybe length, maybe not, Ibaka both and Mullens probably both for his position? The next draft picks are more likely to have one or the other than not.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Durant, from the few times I've checked twitter, likes to ask "What's good?" but it appears "what is" is good to him most of the time. He seems like a glass full guy. He likes his home area ... but moved his junior season of high school to a perennial nationally ranked basketball factory then went back to his old high school for his senior year (good choices and / or advice). He likes his home area but went to college in Texas. He loves Austin but was ready to go pro after 1 season. He immediately falls in love with Seattle and thinks it is his new home but then when fate moves him to OKC he finds a lot to like and immediately gets comfortable. Impressive attitude.

I am the DON
I am the DON 5pts

justin :
I’m watching the Orlando game and Gortat looks so awful. Just missed two shots at point blank range. No thanks to Gortat.

If you were watching that game you would have also noticed that Okafor, who you have been trying to push hard for, is a stiff and a bum.....who is also overpaid

No thanks to Okafor

Crow
Crow 5pts

Making trades easier would let teams go for the gusto or rebuild easier either way depending on what is best for them. Let trade salary vary by 35% instead of 25% or allow one exception per team per x number of years.

Crow
Crow 5pts

I don't know how much giveback the owners get but I doubt they get all they want with a partial season lockout. Maybe with a full season lockout they get most of what they want but I doubt they'll go that far.

I think it might be in the owners interest instead of going to 4 years max to make the 5th year team option and maybe do away with player options.

The % of revenue the players get is what Stern agreed to give them. He is as responsible for the current situation as the players and really I'd say much more so.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

I'm convinced abolishing Bird rights is downright foolish and would be detrimental to the owner's interests. Most players aren't going to turn down extra endorsement dollars unless they're incentivized to stay with their smaller market teams. This becomes an even bigger issue if you slash the cap on max contracts; an extra $2m a year becomes a much bigger deal when you're making $10m as opposed to $20m.

W/r/t guaranteed contracts, I'm with the owners on this. Currently, a catastrophic injury to a max contract player is crippling to a team's finances and to its competitiveness. Non-guaranteed money + the hard cap is the way the NFL manages to achieve a pretty good semblance of parity.

Crow
Crow 5pts

The truest big they have is probably Collison. Krstic is an offensive biased player and that was generally not how San Antonio went with bigs. Two great bigs is very rare. Two very good bigs is still pretty sweet. One better than good overall big is where you want to start and at least have other decent ones around.

Crow
Crow 5pts

The Goodwins offered some fairly quiet assistance to the Save Our Sonics movement. For a mix of reasons including owning a sports bar right by the arena.

Crow
Crow 5pts

I.e., Goodwin was the agent of Gary Payton and Vin Baker.

Crow
Crow 5pts

From afar it seems like Hughes had an interesting relationship with Durant's agent Aaron Goodwin and maybe half the fun of mucking with this for him is mucking with the agent's business.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@boots
For one, the game situation is totally different between the NBA and NFL/MLB. For one, the Yankees have been buying championships for 100 years. Other teams have to build through development because the Yankees will buy all their best players once they are up for free agency. NFL also is very different because there are 22 starters, and over 50 players on the team. You can't buy 50, or even 22 players in a year. To be honest, most teams can't get more than 2-3 starters in a great offseason. The NFL allows teams a franchise tag, forcing their best players to stay. Not to say there aren't similarities, but you really can't compare the leagues.

The NBA certainly requires having the building blocks from the draft, but unless you are ridiculously lucky (Spurs with Manu and Parker), it requires a little movement as well. Look at every team that has won a championship since the MJ Bulls (who had two all-time greats in their primes). LA stole Gasol by taking on a ton of money, and only had Shaq back in the day because they got him in free agency. Boston traded for two of it's all-stars by, again, taking on a ton of money. Detroit's only drafted starter on the championship team was Tayshaun Prince.

Yes, San Antonio did it with primarily drafted players. But let's all be honest, no one expected Parker or Manu to be as good as they have been, not even San Antonio. Manu wasn't even the Spurs first pick, and San Antonio made no effort to move up thinking someone else would take Parker. Both were drafted right where they were expected to be.

If the Thunder are that lucky, that's great. But remember, even the Spurs have made changes throughout their winning seasons. They watched David Robinson leave, and have been changing their PF spot ever since. They have always been looking to pick up quality SFs as well. Heck, for as good as Parker is now, San Antonio tried desperately to pick up Jason Kidd in free agency.

I think we have the core of a championship team in Durant, Westbrook, and Green (though ultimately it may be in a Lamar Odom role). However, to simply guess that Ibaka, White, or Mullens are in some way championship caliber big men is too much. This offseason is one of the last chances we have to guarantee we have someone as good as we hope those guys become. Remember, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. We have no true bigs in hand, just 3-4 in the bush.

Crow
Crow 5pts

I think Hughes is just doing freelance stuff for SI on basketball during his football off-season. He shifted to covering the Seahawks and I assume that is still the case.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

Frank Hughes was one of the best local NBA beat writers when he was working for The News Tribune. It's nice to see he landed well and he's still pumping out informative pieces (the quotes from KD are the first I've seen from him that go deeper than 'I love OKC and I wanna play here forevah!')

Crow
Crow 5pts

The Thunder's record against the west have been improving while Dallas and San Antonio's has been declining. I am not abandoning my thinking about the playoffs from a day or two ago but I am watching it and may have to revise it after all.

Crow
Crow 5pts

I raised the issue about Durant's extension here probably 3-6 months ago. I am not surprised the media is starting to talk about it. I was surprised Durant responded a bit but nothing he could be pinned down on or figured out on.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Ah sloppy. Worst shooting / decent to good defense the part year and better shooting / worst defense the next season and that latter part of the full season was probably the main reason he was gone.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Presti saw Moahammed in San Antonio for a year and a half. That stretch included some of Mohammed's worst shooting and worst defense (the part year). He was better the next season but then gone. Still an amazing rebounder, especially on the offensive glass.

I am the DON
I am the DON 5pts

Don't mean to interrupt the discussions that are already taking place here, but everyone take a look at this article by Frank Hughes. I did not like his tone as it came across like he was trying to stir the pot. KD with great quotes at the end of the article....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/frank_hughes/02/08/monday.durant/index.html

Crow
Crow 5pts

Nobody talks about Nazr Mohammed. There are reasons he is not big news but he has good numbers this season including points per minute and several other things. This is essentially the best he has ever been per minute. 32.5 yrs old. Most teams wouldn't trade him but who knows what Charlotte thinks / will do. 1 year guaranteed left and then a team option.

Vega
Vega 5pts

@boots
Sometimes, risky moves can win a championship and ruin your franchise at the same time, as is being seen in Boston.

Gavin
Gavin 5pts

I prefer Thunder not to sign any major free agent this offseason, unless if they can sign Bosh. When was the last time an NBA champion get a major player through free agency? I can only remember Lakers-Shaq and Pistons-Billups. Shaq is the most dominant player ever and Billups was a journeyman when Pistons signed him with MLE.

boots
boots 5pts

@Keith
Keith, very good post.

But I question, who says that it has to be players coming and going every year? In the MLB and somewhat the NFL (yes, it is not the NBA), the focus has shifted from getting players in free agency to growing your own players. Just because the general trend is trading and acquiring players does NOT mean that the thunder have to do the same. I stand pat on my assertion that the thunder already have most of the pieces that they need to compete for championships. All they need is the time to develop.

I understand that the desire is instant gratification, but sometimes the long-term is not better served by trading for the 'piece that you need right now to win the championship.' Many times (in other leagues), these are the kind of deals that kill your franchise.

Or win you a ring. It's a gamble.

Vega
Vega 5pts

Everyone's talking about trading Green for a center, bu no one is specifying who he would be traded for! Personally, I think that we will be able to snag a real center, either through the draft or in a trade, without having to give up Green or any of the core pieces.

Crow
Crow 5pts

With extension talk for Green, if it happens, a lot of the debate might be how much improvement he could or will show in year 4 or 5.

Crow
Crow 5pts

But I don't want to relive that. There were lessons to learn from it like with other deals.

SAn Antonio had a fair number of minor draft busts and bigger wish we hadn't traded him away in retrospect draft deals but as for bad contract signings the only one I'd note would be giving Malik Rose as many years as they gave him.

Crow
Crow 5pts

He got that huge deal summer 99 after by far the worst season of his career.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Yes.

justin
justin 5pts

@Crow

Didn't we sign Vin Baker AFTER the lockout season where he was fat, out of shape, and horrible? I remember there being a lot of outcry over that..

Crow
Crow 5pts

I meant Bobcats, not Hornets.

Do any them have a center to give? Yes potentially all of them.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Who would be most likely to trade for Green or bid on him as a free agent?

If you talk about near term interest I'd guess the most likely are Cavs, Bulls, Hornets, Wizards, Knicks and Suns.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Rich Cho probably played some role in the Vin Baker signing. He was at least a part-time staffer at that point. Probably more procedural at the time than decision-making.

John
John 5pts

I know people really like Jeff Green, but why wouldn't you sign David Lee and trade Green, 2 picks and DJ/BJ/Thomas for a center? I think David Lee would be the rebounding, defensive hustle player that we need. Uncle Jeff's a nice player, but I would take Lee over him now and in the future. Plus we'd get a center that would, presumably, be that back to the basket threat we're looking for? Or am I just fantasizing too much out loud??

Crow
Crow 5pts

For Green his payday size will come down to how much another team would pay. At extension time it will come down to what Falk says he thinks they'll pay and what Presti and ownership believe will be the case later. At restricted free agency those other teams have to make an offer sheet and at unrestricted FA they make the offer. The Thunder will know concretely. If I was management I'd tend to prefer to wait unless unless Green and Falk were wuite reasonable. As for Green I'd think economic security would be a major factor. An extension would reduce the uncertanty and he might get more now than in a year or two.

justin
justin 5pts

@Crow

He also got Vin Baker the max.

andrew
andrew 5pts

@justin
Howard, Camby, Dalembert, Boozer, Oden/pryzbilla. :) You never said we had to factor in injuries.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Falk got Philly to overpay for Elton Brand.

Crow
Crow 5pts

"at" extension not "as". "wait" not wiat.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Jeff Green's agent is ... David Falk. They'll try to get as much as they can and it might be a tough negotiation to resolve as extension time. They may end up agreeing to wiat.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Both sides might agree to do a 3-4 year Durant extension.

Vega
Vega 5pts

@Crow
He'll get an MLE size deal, and he'll accept it.

justin
justin 5pts

I don't think Portland overpaid Roy but they definitely overpaid Aldridge. Green and Durant will be in the exact same boat, one star who deserves the max, and a role player that doesn't deserve anything close to the max. Portland couldn't just give Roy the extension and let LMA be a lame duck so they paid him. Our situation is even more complicated by a potentially different CBA.. you don't want to have to lock up Jeff Green to an LMA like deal just because you've got to extend your star player.

Crow
Crow 5pts

If Green gets an extension offer I'd think it will be pretty moderate in annual salary. Whether he takes it will be interesting to watch.

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