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Peace, Love and Thunderstanding: Supersubs

by Clark Matthews on February 25, 2010 at 1:00 pm 36 Comments

There was a time when Oklahoma City residents would feel disappointed if a visiting team’s best player had to sit out a game at the Ford Center.  That was because so much of the decision for buying a ticket to the game hinged upon what star players would be coming through town.  To be fair, once the game started, the fans in attendance usually rooted for the hometown team, but what got them out of the house was the potential to see Kobe or LeBron or Tracy McGrady have a big night.

These days things have changed.  On January 13th, Tim Duncan was a late scratch for the San Antonio Spurs, and when the starting line ups were announced there was an audible sigh of relief that “The Big Fundamental’s” name wasn’t called.  This past Tuesday, Steve Nash’s back was giving him enough trouble that he didn’t even fly to Oklahoma City for an important Western Conference match up with playoff implications.  There was much rejoicing among the Thunder fanbase.

Of course, maybe we had it right originally.

The expectation, of course, was that our visiting opposition would be an easier mark without their floor leaders.  Truthfully, that is generally a good assumption.  In these two cases, however, the Thunder lost both games, and it was the absence of the star that may have been the difference.

When the Spurs managed to hold of Oklahoma City in overtime on that day in January, Duncan’s absence was a circumstance the team was unprepared.  Spurs coach Greg Popovich did not decide to rest his star (who is aging and had played extended minutes the night before) until maybe half an hour before tip off.  As a result, DeJuan Blair’s surprise start hit the Thunder hard.

The rookie second rounder set career highs that night in points (28) and rebounds (21) while generally manhandling the Thunder’s unprepared interior.  Of course, my theory was that Popovich knew the late scratch could work in his team’s favor.  Only Phil Jackson is known more for psychological gamesmanship, and Coach Pop very likely saw that the officiating staff had a tendency to allow physical play in the post.  Blair, who plays like a bull in a china shop, used his excessive weight and strength to send the Thunder’s finesse bigs into the second row with two hand shoves all night, but didn’t foul out until overtime.

Less understandable was the way Nash’s replacement, little used second year man Goran Dragic, managed to keep the Suns from taking a step backwards.  It does not take a basketball expert to understand that Phoenix’s run and gun system is predicated on Nash being the primary ball handler.  Their record in games he has missed since being signed away from Dallas has been paltry.  And in this case, his primary back up, Leandro Barbosa, was also missing in action.  Factor in that the Thunder had beaten the Suns with Nash in Phoenix back when the Suns were playing better basketball, and most people had this down as an easy W for OKC.

The expectation, of course, was that our visiting opposition would be an easier mark without their floor leaders. Truthfully, that is generally a good assumption. In these two cases, however, the Thunder lost both games, and it was the absence of the star that may have been the difference.

Tuesday night, however, you could hardly tell the Suns were missing their heart and soul as Dragic put up a Nash-like 16 points (on 7 of 11 shooting) and ten assists.  More importantly, the offense flowed just as if Nash had been there.  Certainly, those weren’t eye popping statistics (like Blair put up), but considering the team had two days to prepare a scouting report on the third string point guard, why wasn’t the team defense ready to shut him down?

My first inclination would be to look at the coaching staff.  The onus is on Coach Brooks and his staff to prepare the team for contingencies and provide the players with the knowledge they need to match up against different players.  It is also their job to make line up adjustments when things aren’t working.  In the San Antonio game, particularly, this did not happen.  While Blair was completely destroying our interior defense and racking up rebound after rebound to give his team second and third chances, the staff hesitated to make a change.  Nenad Krstic just kept getting beaten like a…is there any simile I can use here that won’t be offensive?

Anyway, the players certainly share in the blame, as well.  Despite their great improvement in the defensive area this season, these two games have shown a glaring weakness for adapting.  When Blair was giving Jeff Green (or anyone else) a two handed shove to the back to secure another offensive rebound, he could have exaggerated the contact (in other words, flopped) to force the referees to pay attention.  And Russell Westbrook, who had the responsibility of guarding Dragic, was slow to realize that Dragic could not be left wide open.  Either he didn’t read the scouting report, or else he failed to realize he had underestimated Dragic’s offensive abilities.

Sure, this is a limited sample size, but the Thunder will really be hurt later if they fail to address this delayed adaptation…particularly come playoff time.  When they have to face the same team for up to seven straight games, opposing coaches are going to bring different looks at them constantly.  If they continue to have trouble changing their tendencies to address the matchup changes, it could be a very short playoff run.

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Keep Collison
Keep Collison 5pts

I also would have loved to have drafted Blair, watching the guy play makes any fan of any team that could have picked him up in the 2nd round wish they would have grabbed him. But everyone needs to remember that the guy has no ACLs. He's one awkward fall or bad landing away from possibly being in a wheelchair the rest of his life. You gotta give the guy credit for following his dream of playing NBA basketball, but he will get hurt at some point and given his unique situation it will probably be career ending if the injury has anything to do with his knees. I think Presti was just playing it safe. But then again Blair could play for 10 years before a major injury and make the Spurs look like geniuses.

Vega
Vega 5pts

@Bryan
I only watched a little bit of a Uconn/Pitt game, and it was totally obvious that Blair was a monster and that Thabust was a failure.

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

The killer for Memphis is that anybody who watched "any" Big East BB last season saw Blair chew Thabeet up and spit him out...three times (twice in the reg. season and one more time in the Big East Tournament). Just imagine if Presti would have drafted Hardin and Blair...the only negative would be Blair taking away Ibaka's precious minutes, as Ibaka's ceiling seems to extend higher and higher the more he plays. Collison's injury was sorely missed against the Spurs, as Kristic had to enter the game late...something that has not happened in quite a while. My only beef last night was Westbrook firing up some many shots in the 4th quarter instead of Durant coming off curls...looking to shoot. Of course, San Antonio's players are champs at holding, pushing, shoving and "crying" when anything is called against them...I really have come to dislike the Spurs!

Keith
Keith 5pts

@MartzMimic
I imagine it was sarcasm. There needs to be something to note that online, as it's impossible to tell.

MartzMimic
MartzMimic 5pts

@Atr
Seriously, you're judging Presti by two guys picked 50th and 56th?

atr
atr 5pts

Hey Presti also drafted Sasha Kaun and Devon Hardin. He is a horrible drafter...Give me a break.

justin
justin 5pts

Krstic is signed to a very fair contract.. you look at other MLE type centers, Diop, Dan Gadzuric, tons of them doing nothing. It was a shrewd signing because Presti knew the Nets couldn't match without sacrificing 2010 salary.

Keith
Keith 5pts

As big of a problem as the center position is, it would be crazy to say Presti has dropped the ball thus far. He has gotten rid of all the Seattle busts (Swift, Petro), he took a flier on a couple high reward-low risk prospects (Hill, Mullens), and he stole Nenad from Europe for a very reasonable amount. No, Nenad is not starter caliber on a championship team, but he's a heck of a lot better than the nothing we would have had otherwise.

Bruno
Bruno 5pts

Alex :
Whoa…I can’t believe Thabeet is going to the D-League…That is wild!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4946483

I'm not he's absolutely terrible lol.

that was a big mistake from draft day, he had bust written all over him.

his best case scenario is DeSagana Diop with slightly better shot blocking.

Now will people here stop suggesting the Thunder trade for him? come on.

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

@josh
2nd Overall Pick vs. 25th Overall Pick (after trade)

HUGE difference.

Durantula
Durantula 5pts

We should pick up one big this summer. Going into the draft I was terrified the Thunder would pick up BJ... He will never pan out. We should move on now.

Steve H
Steve H 5pts

@josh
I am actually fairly distraught over our center situation at the moment as well, but we seem to disagree on where the blame, if any, lies. Presti has made some outstanding draft picks to date in my opinion. You guys wringing your hands over Westbrook's defense need to get over it. That kid was picked out of nowhere, and is on a pace to be one of the best PGs in the league. Ibaka was a steal. Harden still looks like a perfect fit for our team concept, and I wouldn't swap him for anybody that was picked behind him. White? Has actually shown promise, but the jury is still out. Same with Weaver. On the whole, Presti has done an amazing job of puttint theis team together without actually spending any money. As much as I like to bash on Kristic as the team's weakest link, the IDEA of picking him up at a fairly reasonable price wasn't bad, and for what we actually pay him, he should suck even worse. Good luck finding a starting center in this league that is getting paid less that is not still playing on his rookie contract. My issue is with our failure to make a move at the trade deadline to beef up our front court. If it was grand strategy that somehow lands CB4 in our lap, then Presti is even a bigger genius than I already consider him to be. If not however, I think he (or possibly a stingy Bennett) screwed the pooch by not opting to pick up Haywood or Camby or Biedrins or Dalembert at the deadline.

Alex
Alex 5pts

@josh
You're not serious right? I mean, all of these guys you are naming are extremely small risks compared to what typical NBA teams pay 7-footers....It's not like he signed Krstic to a Dalembert-type contract...

josh
josh 5pts

I only said he drafted them cause i didnt know who they were or they came from and BJ mullens was the sixth man on Ohio State team

josh
josh 5pts

Well he picked them up thats what im saying i cant belive he picked up no knees Nenad

Steve H
Steve H 5pts

@josh
Uh, think you are a bit off on you facts there. Swift was drafted before Bennett purchased the team. Steven Hill was an oh so brief experiment with a 7 footer picked up from the D-League. The jury is still out on Mullens, though he surely did nothing last night to make me think better of him. My concern is that ownership will be cheap going forward as far a signing free agents/retaining players, but only an uninformed NBA would question Presti's draft picks to date.

josh
josh 5pts

Watching BJ play yesterday he was getting out rebounded by tony parker i so i dont know about this guy i wish he would be something but i dont know

Alex
Alex 5pts

@josh
Didn't draft swift...other two were late-round picks...mullens not officially a failure yet...

josh
josh 5pts

If u guys look at the big men presti has drafted that are failures steven hill robert swift and now bj mullens

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

@Alex

I guess that's true. Sending a #2 pick to the d-league is kinda like admitting a mistake. I think they can probably spin it to the "We knew he was a project" angle.

Alex
Alex 5pts

@Keith
If they did, they shouldn't anymore...This should take care of the last few...

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Alex
Do the Grizzlies even have fans anymore to worry about?

Alex
Alex 5pts

@Jax Raging Bile Duct
I just figured they wouldn't do it because of the PR hit...

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

@Alex

Really? You CAN'T believe it? I think it was a 98% consensus among the commenters on this blog during the last draft that would have bet money on that fact.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Alex
Hilarious is more like it. So glad I'm not a Grizzly fan.

Alex
Alex 5pts

Whoa...I can't believe Thabeet is going to the D-League...That is wild!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4946483

t w
t w 5pts

Picking Mullens over Blair might be the only mistake Presti has made. I see no competitive fire in Mullens. Blair is a baller. Mullens looks incapable of competing at this point. I wonder if San Antonio would trade them straight up? Presti assumed Blair will be sitting on the sideline with icepacks on his knees while Mullens is dominating for years to come. Blair is the lion and Mullens seems like the tin man, no heart. I hope he comes around someday but I doubt it.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

@Keith

Yeah, Brooks is definitely a set rotation kinda guy. He's staying with a 9 man rotation. Put it in stone. He's staying with the same starters. Put it in stone. He's subbing you out according to his pattern. You know what time in each quarter who he's bringing off the bench at the next dead ball.

He doesn't stray too much. Over the course of the season though he's changed PT for Krstic and sometimes Thabo, giving them less and less minutes. He doesn't mess with Russ, KD and Green much. There was a point when he played Green only 20 minutes or so for a couple of weeks, but that's all that lasted. And he did put Ollie in the other day instead of Maynor. But that's about it for this whole season.

Probably, if you dug into his reasoning, this might stem from his preference during his own playing days. I don't know if you got to read the TrueHoop article from yesterday, about Paul Westphal playing his guys or not. But if not, you should read that for a picture of a coach who is the polar opposite of Brooks on this issue. I just wonder if Brooks was in that position before and realizes the damage it caused, and as a result has decided to make his pattern as predictable as possible to offer his young team some stability.

And he may be absolutely right - maybe his young team needs that stability. I don't know.

But as a fan, yeah, it can get under my skin.

Link to TrueHoop article, for reference: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13777/paul-westphal-will-play-who-he-wants-to-play

Gavin
Gavin 5pts

Hamed Haddadi Passes Hasheem Thabeet on Depth Chart
http://www.straightouttavancouver.com/2010/2/24/1324653/coup-hamed-haddadi-passes-hasheem?ref=yahoo

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Jax Raging Bile Duct
One thing that bothers me, even with a rookie coach, is why he never uses substitutions properly. No offense-defense, not riding hot hands or limiting the impact of guys playing terribly.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Good Article Clark.

Brooks did find a lineup that worked against SA. Blair still worked us over that night, but we did come back in that game. And though some may say that it was too little too late, I would counter that we lost by one point on a miraculous play by Manu.

I think the loss to the Suns is less understandable. Brooks did adjust with a small lineup and 3 rookies, and we went from down 15 to up by 10. Then, with two minutes left, he put the bad lineup back in, just in time to lose the game. However, it was on a last second shot after some bad breaks.

Should we chalk it up to a rookie head coach?

Keith
Keith 5pts

@josh
Personally I'd say Westbrook's D on the perimeter is a lot worse than Krstic's, and it leads to a lot of problems for our bigs. We certainly need a stronger rebound, but that can be done.

josh
josh 5pts

If we dont get anybody this offseason and sam presti comes up with that bullsh** line uuhh were gonna stay the course im gonna be so pissed

josh
josh 5pts

Our defense is meant to protect the paint but but its really for the perimeter but our defense cant concentrate on the perimeter because we have to worry about Nonads and his remarkable Defense

Amy
Amy 5pts

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