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Take two: Oklahoma City tops Atlanta again, 106-99

by Royce Young on February 2, 2010 at 10:14 pm 89 Comments

BOX SCORE – ADVANCED BOX SCORE

(Photo by Layne Murdoch/NBAE via Getty Images)

There’s just something about Jeff Green and big plays against Atlanta. Last time, he did it at the rim on Josh Smith. This time, he did it 23 feet away from the tin over Josh Smith. I guess Phil Connors isn’t the only guy living the same nightmare on Groundhog Day.

The Thunder grabbed a 13-point lead late in the second half, but Joe Johnson absolutely took the world over, scoring 10 straight points and keying a 15-4 Atlanta run. With 1:50 left, Oklahoma City was holding a 97-93 lead. Russell Westbrook penetrated, pump faked and kicked to Kevin Durant. Durant had an open look but he deferred to the more open Green. And Uncle Jeff paid it off with a loud 3 to essentially seal the deal for OKC. I think Brian Davis put it best: “YES YES YES YES YES.”

And while Green’s shot was the play of the night because it locked things up, it’s notable that we might not have even been there had Russell Westbrook not skied over Al Horford and Josh Smith for two monstrous offensive rebounds. The two boards led to four points for OKC and put Westbrook one rebound and one assists away from a triple-double (12 points, nine rebounds, nine assists).

Oh yeah, and Kevin Durant. It’s time to get serious about this MVP stuff. No more joking around, kind of just mumbling and thinking about it. Kevin Durant is absolutely in the conversation. After checking back in with OKC leading by six with 8:30 left in the game, Durant missed his first three shots. I was worried he was going to come up short in crunch time again. But he hit back-to-back jumpers when the Thunder absolutely needed it most, finished with six in the quarter and even more importantly, came up with two of the game’s biggest assists. Simply put, he led his team to a win. He’s just other-worldly. He’s one of the five best players in the league and I don’t care what you say. It’s true.

And while we’re acknowledging big crunch time performances, give Thabo Sefolosha some major credit. You want Exhibit P for Thabo’s Defensive Player of the Year case? Watch him defend Joe Johnson the last six minutes of tonight’s game. As mentioned, Johnson was taking over. But after struggling a bit defensively for about 42 minutes, Thabo tightened up the laces and locked down. Johnson went 0-2 from the field the last six minutes with a big turnover forced by Sefolosha. Thabo’s value can’t always be calculated, but without his man-to-man D, OKC doesn’t win. Plain and simple. I guess this would fall under “Total Team Victory.”

Notes:

  • KD is now tied for the NBA scoring lead with Carmelo Anthony. His beautiful line tonight: 33 points on 9-18 shooting, 14-14 from the line (12-12 in the first half), 11 rebounds, three assists, two steals and a block.
  • I haven’t mentioned what might be the most important development of the night: Brian Davis said James Harden is considering shaving his beard. As one reader tweeted me, “That’s NOT Thunder basketball.”
  • Serge Ibaka is really getting the hang of shot blocking. We knew he could, but he’s figuring out timing and how to keep his body away from fouling. He had two fantastic swats tonight, but also had eight points on 4-5 shooting and four rebounds in just 16 minutes. He’s been just huge off the bench the last three months.
  • When KD took that awkward spill in the first quarter, I threw up. On first look, it appeared bad. But it wasn’t at all. And then James Harden fell awkwardly in the second quarter. NO MORE AWKWARD FALLS GUYS K THANX.
  • Westbrook misses a good amount of layups without hitting any rim. He hasn’t quite figured out touch at the rim. To get those down where you’re running full speed and trying to float it over a 6-10 guy, you’ve got to put it up softly. Russ hasn’t quite gotten that one yet. He’s decent when he hangs for a minute, but when he’s full tilt at the rim, he doesn’t really know how to take some of the momentum out of the shot.
  • Can Nenad Krstic play against Atlanta every game? Big time third quarter for the Serbian. He finished with eight points and seven rebounds in 30 minutes and played some really solid interior defense.
  • Rapper Xzibit was in the house tonight. Yo dawg, I heard you liked Thunder basketball, so we put this plaque in that says, ‘That’s Thunder basketball.’ I spent far longer than I’d like to admit trying to come up with a joke there. I don’t think I landed it.
  • Jeff Green just makes big plays. Like I keep saying, he’s just a winning basketball player. Nineteen points, six rebounds and 3-4 from 3.
  • James Harden makes excellent cuts. He times it well, is ready for a pass and is decisive when he gets it. This is what people are talking about when they talk about his “feel” for the game. He’s just savvy and really understands basketball. I thought it would be important for Harden to match Jamal Crawford’s bench production. Harden: nine points, two assists. Crawford: nine points, two assists. Mission accomplished.
  • Very important stat: OKC turned the ball over just seven times and only twice in the second half. That’s big time. Westbrook had a sexy 9:1 ratio.
  • And the Thunder outrebounded Atlanta 45-35. I wish I were keeping track but that’s like 25-5 or something when outrebounding their opponent. Oh, and related: OKC is 23-7 when leading going into the fourth quarter and 15-5 at home.
  • OKC went 10-18 from 16 to 23 feet. The Thunder’s offense is pretty good when they’re hitting jumpers. But then again, I guess everybody’s offense is pretty good under that circumstance.
  • After Kevin Durant hoisted a stand-still covered 3 right before halftime, I said, “Why would he take that?” Mrs. DT immediately replied with, “He thought he would make it.” That’s what you call going inside the game. Hardcore basketball analysis folks.

Six games over and 3-1 on this homestand. That’s big time. The Thunder’s got a big game in New Orleans tomorrow night and then two more on the road in the next seven days. So there’s still some major work to do. But this is a sweet win. Atlanta is one of the best teams in the league and Oklahoma City just notched a season sweep over them. We all knew this game would be fun with the young talent on the floor and it was. But what made it a blast was the fact the Thunder won. Funny how it works like that.

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Lefty
Lefty 5pts

@Danny
He already has admitted he was wrong about Westbrook. He basically did a 180 on the air the other day regarding the entire organization. Before the season he was almost being contrary just for contrary's sake, but a few weeks ago, he was absolutely gushing. With Traber, it's basically all or nothing.

Danny
Danny 5pts

@Jax Raging Bile Duct

For sure, Jax. Westy is a weird player--he sort of had a habit playing flat and mopey early in the season. But it's easy to tell when Russell is playing mad, and it's fun for Thunder fans when he does--his attitude last night reminded me of his game at Miami (after he and JO got into their little tiff).

Last night, Westbrook had unbelievable intensity to start the 3rd quarter, and he really spear-headed the team's rally at that point (supported by solid play from Thabo, Green, and Nenad). I was giddy with Thunder-pride during this stretch of the game--our guys played great; Atlanta just kept the game close with timely and solid shooting.

Either way, I think it's becoming apparent that the Westbrook-at-PG experiment is working out nicely--he's figuring out the position, and the momentum supplied by his defense, rebounding, and athleticism is unmeasurable. He's not there yet, but I really don't think we could ask for much more from a 2nd year PG (nonetheless one who is learning the position at the highest level).

Now, how long until Traber admits he's wrong on this one?

Dooney
Dooney 5pts

@Mrs. Daily Thunder
Of course not, would never do such a thing. Just implying that Burns Hargis may not be on the same level as X to the Z.

Mrs. Daily Thunder
Mrs. Daily Thunder 5pts

@Dooney

"Ha! I graduated from OSU too"

I hope you are not implying I graduated from OSU. Eww. :)

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Russell has a propensity for the jaw dropper. When he picked JS's pocket and tomohawked it, that was big time. Those two offensive rebounds when we really freakin' needed them, that was big time. That drive right down the lane in a half court set for the two hand jam, that was big time.

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

If I read Berry Tramel calling them "The Boomers" one more time...

t w
t w 5pts

I think KD's career average will be 32/8/6. 50/40/90 %'s . He's barely even hitting the rim on most of his good look shots now. He's like a cross between Scottie Pippen and Larry Bird. If the power forwards and centers can get their game on the second half of the season, I think the thunder will make it to the conference semi-finals. If they can trade for Bosh, the finals. Both first round picks and all expiring contracts for Bosh. Thunder win back to back to back championships, yeah babay.

Dooney
Dooney 5pts

@Mrs. Daily Thunder

Thank you! I didn’t realize he was doing that with them. I work in Norman and my employer is a big sponsor of the project. Add Xzibit and …… Burns Hargis (Ha! I graduated from OSU too) to the celebrity list that have attended Thunder games!

DSMok1
DSMok1 5pts

(I was just checking if HTML table formatting worked here, which it doesn't--is there any way to do "CODE" formatting or something else to format lists?)

DSMok1
DSMok1 5pts

HTML check:

Player
SPM
%Min
Points

Kevin Durant
14.2
83%
9.8

Jeff Green
3.5
84%
2.5

Russell Westbrook
3.6
75%
2.3

Nick Collison
2.4
37%
0.7

James Harden
-0.5
42%
-0.2

Serge Ibaka
-3.4
33%
-0.9

Thabo Sefolosha
-5.3
59%
-2.6

Nenad Krstic
-5.3
63%
-2.7

Eric Maynor
-14.7
24%
-2.9

DSMok1
DSMok1 5pts

Single game Statistical Plus/Minus for last night's game:
Atlanta:
Player SPM %Min Points
Joe Johnson 10.0 87% 7.2
Mike Bibby 6.3 67% 3.5
Josh Smith 3.3 72% 2.0
Joe Smith 3.7 16% 0.5
Maurice Evans 0.6 14% 0.1
Jeff Teague -0.3 10% 0.0
Al Horford -1.3 79% -0.9
Mario West -22.1 7% -1.3
Jamal Crawford -4.6 58% -2.2
Zaza Pachulia -8.8 32% -2.4
Marvin Williams -10.2 58% -4.9

Oklahoma City:
Player SPM %Min Points
Kevin Durant 14.2 83% 9.8
Jeff Green 3.5 84% 2.5
Russell Westbrook 3.6 75% 2.3
Nick Collison 2.4 37% 0.7
James Harden -0.5 42% -0.2
Serge Ibaka -3.4 33% -0.9
Thabo Sefolosha -5.3 59% -2.6
Nenad Krstic -5.3 63% -2.7
Eric Maynor -14.7 24% -2.9

DSMok1
DSMok1 5pts

Kobe hasn't played as well this year (the finger is hindering him); I'd say that KD has played better than Kobe this year.

Lebron is worth 13 points above a replacement player, per 100 TEAM possessions. In other words, take him off the team and you lose about 13 points a game. No other player is worth more than 10--D Wade is worth 9.5, then KD and CP3 7.5 and Kobe is worth 7.2.

555
555 5pts

Kev :

It’s no shame in saying that KD still has a ways to go to get to the LBJ/Kobe level – can’t we be happy for what he has done thus far???

Nothing to be shamed about at all.
I guess a lot of people forgot that KD is only old enough to buy liquor since not too long ago, 21. It's his 3rd season.
You don't see too many 3rd year player and only barely 21 can do that. You always hear comment for most of the 3rd year players like, "He is going to be great one day" or something like that. But, people is already talking about KD as MVP candadite or compare him with Kobe and LeBron. That's actually a honor, IMHO...

DSMok1
DSMok1 5pts

Nax :
“He’s one of the five best players in the league and I don’t care what you say. It’s true.”
Just kind of curious, who are the 4 other best players in the league (as of right now)?

Here are the top 5, by points contributed to the team (using statistical plus/minus methods)
1. Lebron
2. D Wade
3. KD
4. CP3 (because he plays so few minutes)
5. Kobe
6. Dwight Howard
7. Gerald Wallace (most minutes played)
8. Josh Smith
9. Tim Duncan
10. Jason Kidd

By pure Statistical Plus/Minus (neglecting minutes played), with a minimum of 20% of minutes played:
1. Lebron
2. D Wade
3. CP3
4. Tim Duncan
5. Manu Ginobili (Why the Spurs always have an extra gear in the playoffs)
6. KD
7. Dwight Howard
8. Josh Smith
9. Kobe
10. Brandon Roy

Mrs. Daily Thunder
Mrs. Daily Thunder 5pts

@Dooney

He's here for Extreme Makeover Home Edition. They are doing a house in Lexington

Kev
Kev 5pts

justin :@Jake
That’s no excuse.. the fact that LeBron scores as much as he does at such a high efficiency, and is able to get his teammates involved in the offense as well making shots (reflected by his assist numbers) is unreal. Trust me, if Kevin Durant had the ability to play point forward like LeBron does and set up his teammates for high percentage shots routinely like LeBron does, he would do it. It’s a question of skills, not opportunity. The same argument can be applied to Dwyane Wade / Kobe Bryant also, who like LeBron is a top scorer who gets his teammates points as well. That’s not really part of Kevin Durant’s game and puts him a step below those guys, in my opinion.

thank you - KD's our guy - but stop making excuses - LBJ is just better . . . there's no shame in saying that . . . exhibit one is the last two shots against Cleveland - LBJ makes a great read (pass to Gibson) KD makes a poor read (drive into the lane against two defenders and the shot has NO chance to go in - meanwhile Harden is eating popcorn in the corner) . . .

It's no shame in saying that KD still has a ways to go to get to the LBJ/Kobe level - can't we be happy for what he has done thus far???

Kev
Kev 5pts

Keith :@Kev, do you think it is a product of his zone-heavy defense at Arizona? Calling for a teammate to pick up a guy in the corner seems exactly like something he would have done in college while the defense set up around the top of the three point line. He has shown the ability to defend very well, Brooks just needs to make sure he realizes his responsibilities now are very different than Arizona.

he hadn't really done this all year - that's why I chalked it up to laziness - we will see if it continues - that is one of the good things about chartine every game . . . check back tonight for another installment :)

justin
justin 5pts

@Jake

That's no excuse.. the fact that LeBron scores as much as he does at such a high efficiency, and is able to get his teammates involved in the offense as well making shots (reflected by his assist numbers) is unreal. Trust me, if Kevin Durant had the ability to play point forward like LeBron does and set up his teammates for high percentage shots routinely like LeBron does, he would do it. It's a question of skills, not opportunity. The same argument can be applied to Dwyane Wade / Kobe Bryant also, who like LeBron is a top scorer who gets his teammates points as well. That's not really part of Kevin Durant's game and puts him a step below those guys, in my opinion.

Kris
Kris 5pts

To whomever asked -I read that Xzibit was in town for the Extreme Home Edition or whatever show that is.

Big G
Big G 5pts

Just a question has Lebron every had a PG who avg. alot of assists?

Jake
Jake 5pts

As for Durant and assist numbers, the Thunder don't use him in a way where he is going to rack up a ton of assists. He doesn't even touch the ball every time down. Lebron has the ball 20 out of the 24 sec shot clock. So ya when he can't get a shot off and dishes with 5 seconds left hes going to pick up assists. Durant doesn't handle the ball for large amounts of time. He is more of a catch and shoot or catch and drive.

justin
justin 5pts

@Nax

Oops forgot Dirk..

Jake
Jake 5pts

Top 5 for me are LBJ/Kobe, CP3, Duncan then probably Durant. Durant will pass Duncan b/c of age soon. And the rest aren't far out of sight

Big G
Big G 5pts

This is where disagree in Durant not making your team better. The most inportant thing Durant did this year was buy into it on the defensive side.Which has made it almost impossible for players to slack on D on this team. He could avg. 10 assists but if he did not buy in to it on D we would not be where we are at. It is rare to be a star this young and lead your team. Kobe didn't do it and Lebron didn't have to do it to this extent.So I think Durant make teammate alot better than we give him credit.

Jake
Jake 5pts

you gotta think that once the suns dump amare they will fall out of the race and give us a shot in the lottery. plus we'll end up with like the 20-24th pick. So we are talking like the 10-12 pick and a 20-24. Thats sick.

Nax
Nax 5pts

@justin
I agree but I would have throw Dirk in there somewhere too.

shiki=4 seasons
shiki=4 seasons 5pts

@justin
I dont think Wade is ahead of KD.KD's number and Thunder' record are as good as DW and Heat. Thunder is younger and in west
If thunder in east,what will happene?A fouth or fifth seed in playoff and can get 2th round of playoff as LBJ had done.It is incredible.

rich
rich 5pts

thunder are looking great! i love the chemistry. forget trading green, he's super-athletic and has range. i know it may be a "cap" issue, but he'll be worth the $5-6M per its going to take to re-sign him.
also sefalosha can defend the best scorer on any team and harden is instant offense. westbrook needs to develop some range, but he's coming along and is doing a great job getting to the line. i say trade this year's 1st rounder and weaver for a physical inside player.

Mike
Mike 5pts

Yo dawg, I heard you like Thunder basketball, so I put some some lightning in your arena so it can thunder while you ball.

crick
crick 5pts

rich :
thunder

chatterbox!

crick
crick 5pts

The Human Highlight blog asks:

Have the Thunder passed the Hawks?

rich
rich 5pts

thunder

justin
justin 5pts

I agree with Greg that KD will probably pass Wade up soon, if not this season if he keeps up what he's doing.

justin
justin 5pts

@Nax

LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard (debatable), Bosh (debatable), Carmelo (debatable), Nash (debatable).

I think LeBron, Kobe, Wade, and CP3 are clearly ahead of Kevin Durant still, mostly because they all score almost as efficiently as he does and also make their teammates a lot better. The rest you could go either way on this season..

Greg
Greg 5pts

1a. Lebron
1b. Kobe
3. (most would say) D-Wade
4. KD
5. CP3-Dwight

By next year, maybe even this year, 3 and 4 will be flopped.

crick
crick 5pts

I like this comment from someone over at the ajc Hawks blog:

"I like that Thunder team. They drafted well and are well coached. And the players have bought into a defense-first philosophy. A very nice young team. And where do we get a Serge Ibaka? I want one of those."

:)

Nax
Nax 5pts

"He’s one of the five best players in the league and I don’t care what you say. It’s true."
Just kind of curious, who are the 4 other best players in the league (as of right now)?

justin
justin 5pts

We're only one game behind the Suns / Blazers now. It'd be pretty amazing if we made the playoffs and the Suns didn't. Chance with the lottery balls and the playoffs..

justin
justin 5pts

@Keith

It might be habitual.. it's tough to break habits in the heat of the moment especially in a close game like this. It's rare for rookie wings to play good team defense unless they played in a good program in college and / or were known for it in college. Like you said he played in a zone system.. must be tough to adjust.

The play that bothered me most was the Joe Johnson three off the blocked shot by Kevin Durant. When the defense was resetting James Harden was about three feet from Joe Johnson (who was behind the three point line). Harden just froze and Johnson got off the wide open three pointer.

Greg
Greg 5pts

Does anyone else think Jeff Green has just looked different this past week or so? As if maybe, during his lengthy slump, he was laboring through his hip injury or some other type? He seems to be more fluid and even more explosive for whatever reason. Maybe it's just me. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with confidence. Either way, the guy's been playing good basketball lately.

justin
justin 5pts

I know Nenad played an excellent defensive game but our team with a big center who can block shots in the paint and really challenge on help defense would be on another level.

Eric4Mayor
Eric4Mayor 5pts

ONLY six turnovers!!!!

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Kev, do you think it is a product of his zone-heavy defense at Arizona? Calling for a teammate to pick up a guy in the corner seems exactly like something he would have done in college while the defense set up around the top of the three point line. He has shown the ability to defend very well, Brooks just needs to make sure he realizes his responsibilities now are very different than Arizona.

dork
dork 5pts

@girlballer

about ibaka.. watch his mix tapes :) he has range to the HS 3pt line... just hadn't been very feathery(?) since he's been in the NBA ( I think he just gets too jacked up everygame still)...

RH
RH 5pts

@justin

Good point. Probably should have thought about that before I posted.

justin
justin 5pts

@RH

Fewer defensive rebounds usually means the opponent is making more shots than you.

girlballer
girlballer 5pts

I was absolutely flabbergasted (no WAY I spelled that right...)but Ibaka's offense!! He has a velvety 10-14 ft shot--where does THAT come from?!? Blocks yeah, rebounds yeah, but 14 fts from the elbow? REALLY?!? Ibaka needs the next shirt.

And my two cents on the beard issue (female opinion I might add...) is that I ALWAYS prefer 5 o'clock shadow to either baby bottom smooth or grizzly Adams! HOWEVER,YOU DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING WHEN MAKING A PLAYOFF PUSH!!! An all out twitter campaign must be raged if he seriously intends to do this....

RH
RH 5pts

@Crow

Good site. One of the most interesting stats is we are 1-10 when we have fewer defensive rebounds. So maybe winning the rebounding battle doesn't guarantee a win, but losing it basically wraps up a loss?

clarkem
clarkem 5pts

Crow is a rhyming machine ladies and gentlemen.

justin
justin 5pts

Kevin Durant is BARELY more efficient as a scorer this year than LeBron, BARELY a more effective rebounder, and LeBron obliterates him as a play maker, routinely making his teammates better. He's probably also a better defender right now.

This isn't a knock on Kevin Durant or anything, it's just highly unlikely he'll win MVP over LeBron.

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    February 3, 2010 at 10:04 am

    [...] Interesting comment in last night’s recap: “And now from the Useless Information Department:  the Thunder are 25-10 when they win the 3rd quarter, 2-11 when they don’t.  In those 10 losses, we were ahead after three quarters 6 times, within 3 points once, and went into the 3rd quarter trailing by double digits 5 times.  You noticed that doesn’t add up to ten?  That’s because twice we went into halftime down double digits, won the 3rd quarter by enough to get the lead, then lost the game.  Sucks doesn’t it.” [...]

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