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Can the Thunder win in LA?

by J.G. Marking on April 26, 2010 at 2:27 pm 96 Comments

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As amazing as it was to experience Game 3 and then marvel at the stunning woodshed performance of Game 4, one thought has still remained in the back of my mind, hanging thick and stifling in the air like a dense fog refusing to lift in the face of morning’s light.

They have to win in Los Angeles. The Thunder must steal a game in the Staples Center to win the series.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m still celebrating the Thunder holding serve at home just as hard as anyone else, especially with all of the love that the team is receiving nationally, the hype and marvel that the deafening fans and the rocking Thunderdome have sparked across the NBA landscape, and the reality that after four games with the defending champs, this series is all tied up and we’re now looking at a best of three matchup where anything can happen.

But just like Kevin Durant said when Ric Bucher commented that he didn’t seem very surprised or enthusiastic at what the team was able to accomplish in Game 4, “This is a seven game series.”

The time for confetti and shouts of joy ended Sunday morning (or more likely Sunday night, after all, that 21 point demolition deserved an extra half day to savor and celebrate on the Sabbath) because despite the euphoria and electricity permeating the OKC area and probably the entire state/country of Thunder fans, those two games are over and they served their purpose. The Thunder protected their house. And now they have to make like a thief in the night and steal a victory away from the Lakers in Los Angeles.

Like Clark noted rather prophetically last week, nothing changes in a playoff series until the home team loses on their own floor. So even though the momentum has shifted and the Thunder are the clear aggressors in this matchup moving forward, everything is realistically as it should be.

But that’s where things get interesting because as daunting as it may seem for the Thunder to pickup a win in LA, recent history shows that it’s not near as formiddable a task as you might think it is.

Let’s get down to business right from the get-go and acknowledge that this Thunder team has never won in the Staples Center in Los Angeles against the Lakers. Ouch. That one stings a little bit–until you realize that the last three times the Thunder has played the Lakers in LA, the Lakers average margin of victory has been a paltry 4.66 points.

Yes, a two possession game. So let me repeat an answer I gave to a Laker fan who posted on the site that he/she saw no proof for why the Thunder could win Game 3 in OKC (how’s that looking now?) because no matter how close the scores might have been, the Thunder still lost games 1 and 2 in LA: Do we really have to discuss how a close and competitive game is an indicator that the teams were fairly evenly matched where both had an opportunity to win it, especially since the visiting team had a three point shot bounce out when they were down by two with seconds remaining?

As crazy as it sounds, the Thunder have come A LOT closer to beating the Lakers in LA in the last three games than the Lakers have at beating the Thunder in OKC (OKC’s average margin of victory in the last 3 meetings in the Thunderdome–try 14 points).

In the Thunder's wins in OKC, Harden is averaging 16.5 points on 53.5% shooting from the field and 62.5% from three point range, 5 rebounds, 3.5 assists to only .5 turnovers. I mean, wow, right? And Harden's impact directly affects Eric Maynor's ability to run the offense for the second unit because Maynor excels at getting his second unit teammates open looks initially and then taking advantage of the defense's focus on Harden, Ibaka, etc to then free himself up for clutch buckets.

But that’s the problem. The Lakers don’t have to win in OKC to advance and win this series. So the question remains, if the Thunder have proven that they canwin in LA, how can they take that next step and actually claim a victory and either steal homecourt advantage for Game 6, or win the do-or-die event that would be Game 7?

Well, for starters, Westbrook will need to continue being the biggest mismatch and most dominant player in the series (how many of you would have prognosticated that one before the first round?).

Westbrook’s stats in the series are almost absurd: 21.8 points, 6.5 rebounds, 5.3 assists to only 1.5 turnovers, 1 steal a game, while shooting 55.2% from the field, 100% from 3PT land (I know, right?) and an extremely impressive 91.3% from the free throw line…in only 34.5 minutes a game.

To be blunt, Westbrook has been the biggest mismatch and most efficient player on either team since the series started, even when he was sidelined with foul trouble in Game 2. For the Thunder to sneak one away in LA, Russell will need to continue his stellar and inspirational play. And selfishly, I’d really appreciate another poster on the newest Kardashian family member.

Secondly, Durant will have to keep making an impact on both ends of the floor, especially if his shot is struggling. Yes, in four games he’s shooting 38.4 from the field and only 25% from deep, but he’s still getting to the line 10+ times, converting 85.4% of those and still notching 26.8 points per contest, with one of the best perimeter defenders the league has seen in the last decade draped all over him.

But the best part about Durant? 9.3 rebounds and 1.8 blocks a game. He’s getting it done in whatever way he can to will his team to victory and you can’t ask for much more than that.

Except I’m going to. KD, please, just take a little better care of the ball as those 4.5 turnovers a game could be the difference between escaping LA without getting snake bit (somebody please see what I did there) or taking a great series to seven games but ultimately falling short. Really all Durant needs to do is play to his strengths and not try to do too much, since most of his turnovers are self-inflicted wounds where he’s trying to create for others and forcing it instead of allowing Russell or Maynor or even Harden to do that for him.

Speaking of Harden and Maynor, how do you like em’ now?! Ibaka and Collison have been steady throughout and I don’t want to minimalize the impact they’ve had on this series because without them, this could be REALLY ugly (Air Congo and Ground Charge-Taker unite!), but it is blindingly clear that this is a completely different Thunder team when James Harden is making his shots and attacking with ferocity. The numbers are startling if you compare the games in LA and OKC since Harden did very little in the two losses in LA, but that’s kind of the point. In the two losses, Harden scored an average of 0 points while shooting 0% from, um, anywhere, grabbed .5 rebounds and notched .5 assists to .5 turnovers.

In the Thunder’s wins in OKC, Harden is averaging 16.5 points on 53.5% shooting from the field and 62.5% from three point range, 5 rebounds, 3.5 assists to only .5 turnovers. I mean, wow, right? And Harden’s impact directly affects Eric Maynor’s ability to run the offense for the second unit because Maynor excels at getting his second unit teammates open looks initially and then taking advantage of the defense’s focus on Harden, Ibaka, etc to then free himself up for clutch buckets.

In other words, the ENTIRE bench for the Thunder has to continue performing like they can and have the past two games if this team is going to have a legitimate shot to swing the series their way.

And finally, and most importantly, the suffocating defense absolutely must continue to hound, bother, frustrate, you name it, the Laker offense. The numbers are downright staggering. The Lakers have been held to only 91.75 points per game on 41.3% FG and 28.9% 3 PT shooting (and even though Phil Jackson marveled at the Thunder’s free throw shooting defense in Game 4, I can’t really give them credit for the Lakers shooting only 69.1% from the line in the series). LA is only grabbing 12 offensive rebounds a game and even more shocking, only 31 defensive rebounds despite having an obvious size advantage against the Thunder (who are grabbing 33 defensive rebounds a game despite being one of the league’s worst defensive rebounding teams in the regular season).

Even more shocking? The Thunder continue blocking 2.5 more shots per game than the much larger Lakers. And yet the Lakers are winning almost every other statistical category other than defensive rebounds, 3PT%, steals and the most important one, POINTS PER GAME. So what does that tell you?

Quite simply, the Thunder defense is the biggest and most influential X-Factor in this series. More than Westbrook, Durant and every other bench player or starter that this team needs to play well, the defense will determine if this team has a shot to stun the NBA universe and knock off the defending champs. We’ve almost taken it for granted, but the defensive intensity and relentlessness must continue at this downright debilitating pace for the Thunder to have a realistic shot at winning this series because the Lakers have their own list about “if only” so-and-so played better or they contributed more or limited their turnovers or the Thunder’s fast break points, etc, etc.

The Thunder defense is keeping a potent Lakers attack at bay right now and that’s how it will have to stay if they are to harness all of this positive momentum and confidence. The belief they’ve earned on the court that they not only deserve to be here, but actually are able to beat the defending champions and move on to the next round.

When it comes down to it, all you can hope for in the playoffs is to have a chance, when the clock is winding down and everything is tied up, a chance to control your own destiny and to be the one to make a play that can win the game and the series.

And right now that is exactly what the Thunder have going into tomorrow night. How bout that?

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Kel
Kel 5pts

@MarcUpNorth
Nate if anything is the second choice for COY. He took a team riddled with so many injuries throughout the season AND post-season (Oden, Przybilla, Roy, Fernandez, Outlaw, Batum, Mills, Aldridge, McMillan, lol) and lead them to the Playoffs. They are 3-2 with the hot Suns. No one expected that. By my book he's done a terrific job. Shout-out to Scott Skiles as well.

But I am a long-time Sonic fan, and I for one would love to see OKC beat LA. If they can win their home game, anything can happen in a game 7.

justin
justin 5pts

Danger Russ is something that could stick..

Amy
Amy 5pts

@SuperSonics :)
jealous much? Obviously you have low self esteem and the only way you can feel good about yourself is to put other people down. Stay classy supersonics.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

@DurantDurant

That is a sweet nickname. Danger Russ.

SuperSonics :)
SuperSonics :) 5pts

Truely i love durrant,westbrook,green,collison (all sonic drafted players) on that team but ill never be a fan of the thunder not only is there name retarded but clay bennett is the only thing i think about watchin them. An i jsut get angry the whole time because they should be sonics :( . I guess oklahoma is a good place for a basketball team tho, what the heII else do u have to do there besides watch sports. hate hicks! an hate the thunder! keep dreamin you will beat the Lakers. durants still my babay tho :) .

DurantDurant
DurantDurant 5pts

Not super relevant, but due to dude's play in the series I've started calling Westbrook "Danger Russ".

dream catcher
dream catcher 5pts

MarcUpNorth :
I expected all remaining matches to be of great intensity… and Iexpect the Lakers will bring it on Tuesday… some of the quotes here kind of confirm how I thought they would react:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-thunder-lakers
It won’t be easy but I am sure our guys wont back down either!

I agreed, the Lakers will bring their best tomorrow you can bet on it. If we can play with them till the end I think we are still ok, but if they run us out of the building them Ill be very worried.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

I expected all remaining matches to be of great intensity... and Iexpect the Lakers will bring it on Tuesday... some of the quotes here kind of confirm how I thought they would react:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-thunder-lakers

It won't be easy but I am sure our guys wont back down either!

st
st 5pts

in my opinion game 6 is the pivotal game in this series. of course if we loss tomorrow then it is a big game, but if we win tomorrow..kobe and the Lakers will be fired up for game 6 and could pull out a win which could rattle a young thunder team. i know we have been going against the norm for young teams but getting beat in front of their rowdy home crowd and then turning around and playing the lakers in their house could be devastating..

Sas
Sas 5pts

A post from Twitter:
"HPbasketball:

RT @ripcityproject: The Blazers shoot all jumpers for 18 minutes and get killed on the boards and people want to blame refs? Relax."

Can we make this our official status regarding the past two games versus the Lakers?

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@justin

Ya its tough to go back to previous expectations. Even without any new players the fans will expect better results next year... we forget that the jump we just made was phenomenal. If we were to win 48 games and just miss the playoffs I doubt it would go over well.

I agree that next year we will get a better feel for Brooks. I am sure experiencing the playoffs as a head coach of his bunch is going to provide him with a great deal of opportunities for improvement.

We will also have a better feel for where he is flexible and where he isn't.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@Keith

My original link was just to show that good coaches can still take a lot of flack. I brought up Nate for two reasons, 1) because I have read a lot about the Blazers since he became their coach, 2) because I see some parallels in his coaching style and that of Brooks 3)the criticism he takes for that style is similar to what I have seen posted here lately (oops guess there were more than 2 reasons).

I do think Nate is a good coach but I believe he holds his team back at this stage in certain areas. I also think Brooks is very good and people should give him a chance... no coach can please everyone on make perfect decisions... it just doesn't happen.

At the same time there are no guarantees that replacing someone like Nate would automatically give better results. It is true that Brooks has been incredibly fortunate in how healthy the team has been... it is rare to have a team have so few **juries... and very rare to have as many as the Blazers.

Yup Nate has done small miracles to keep his team from totally feeling sorry for itself and imploding.

justin
justin 5pts

We'll see what Brooks is made out of next season. Depending on how the offseason goes, the expectations can be a little higher from player progression or far higher due to a key acquisition. He'll have to make adjustments and adaptations to get more from the team.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@Keith

I am not sure I read your post. I think it is normal to criticize coaches... as fans that's part of the fun isn't it? We see something doesn't work or didn't turn out great and we are sure we could fix it.

Brooks probably isn't a great strategist or at least he might be behind in that part of his skill set at this point. He may have a lot of reasons for not wanting to make huge adjustments too... like the fact that he has so many young players, that some of his players have big limitations in certain areas etc.

Maybe he wants to provide some stability from which to grow and of course maybe sometimes he just screws up. Maybe he makes changes that are too subtle for us to see but he deems them appropriate adjustments for where the team is in its development.

He obviously has done some good things because he has managed to nurture a competitive attitude here, his players get along and respect the team process and he has had incredible success with the team since he took over from a disastrous start to last season.

He also has us competitive in this first playoff series... we have had a chance to win every game... and that despite falling behind by big margins several times.

He doesn't deserve all the credit but he deserves some. Like you mentioned I hope he keeps growing but even at that maybe at some point we will need a different type of head coach... then again maybe not.

justin
justin 5pts

@Keith

Isn't Ron Adams credited with our defensive scheme?

Keith
Keith 5pts

@MarcUpNorth
I even wrote an article criticizing him. That said, he's done more coaching in these four games than he has all season. That's great, and I'm pumped about it. But let's not pretend that he was even an average strategist or in-game manager during the regular season. We won our games because of the defense he installed before the season started (and that's something an assistant could have done, Thibodeau for example).

Then again, if everybody on the Thunder (including Brooks) makes the kind of progress year to year that we've seen so far, he's going to be the next Phil Jackson/Pat Riley/Jerry Sloan.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Vince
Never been a big fan of Jackson, or any coach whose entire greatness is based on having coached all time great players. McMillan is a quality coach, but I'm not all that impressed by the year. Portland was already good without Oden, and Camby has been a steal. Yes, a lot of guys got hurt from time to time, but LA and Miller haven't missed a game. Roy even has still played almost 80% of their games.

And honestly, Phoenix has been as schizophrenic as they come all year. Are the two wins a result of the Blazers coming together and just out-strategizing the Suns, or the Suns giving away games by playing poorly. I'd lean more towards the latter. The Suns should be running Portland out of the gym, and Portland hasn't been a particularly strong defensive team all year (they've won with efficient offense, not defense). The fact that the Suns can't exploit a mediocre defensive team says more about where there heads are at. Phoenix shot a combined 42% FG and 30% 3pt in their losses. Portland just isn't that good defensively, which puts it on the Suns to be imploding.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@Vince

To be honest I don't think Phil would have ever touched the Blazers... he really seems to choose teams who are likely to win championships.

As far as criticizing coaches goes you don't have to look to far... Brooks has won coach of the year, has taken a team into a 2 - 2 tie against the first seed, has lead the team to a 23 game improvement and has them playing hard... he still gets a lot of flack on this board.

Vince
Vince 5pts

KD's usage was much, much better in game 4. I think the dish on the break to Garden late in 3Q of Game 3 maybe showed KD what would happen if he distributed a little more. Of course, the fact that he didn't feel he had to carry the team (as we've led pretty much since that run) has helped.

Criticizing McMillan seems asinine from afar. They're 2-2 against the hottest team in the West with all those injuries. Maybe there are some X and O things but what more can you expect from him? Do you really think Phil Jackson has that same group winning 58 or 60 games this year?

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

R.O.Y.

Tyreke Evans probably has this locked up already but Brandon Jennings is really doing well in the playoffs.

I think besides he, Gibson with the Bulls and Mathews with the Jazz our rooks are the ones getting the most playing time in the Playoffs.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@Keith

It will be great when he develops his play making to where he can get others involved too... that would make him even more effective. His team mates have to make some plays when he does this.

I also like when he brings up the ball quickly after a rebound.. that doesn't give them time to set up.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@justin
To address KD's usage, I think a major part of the problem is our lack of playmaking ability and proper screening throughout the lineup. If Durant doesn't have the ball, LA's defense relaxes off him and everyone outside of Westbrook doesn't really get it done. Further, the threat of him is mitigated because we don't set crisp screens for him to actually get free off of. Constantly feeding him the ball like we are is keeping the LA defense in a way that we are accustomed to. As long as they always think that we are about to dump it off to Durant and let him iso, it gives the rest of our guys room to work.

justin
justin 5pts

Marc in Nate's last year coaching the Sonics he went away from the fast paced offense and instituted an offensive game plan similar to what the Blazers do now. Slow pace, three pointers, toughness, control the boards. He took that 2004 team to the second round of the playoffs. He's a great coach... he's a stubborn guy, yeah, but he knows how to get the most from his players.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@justin

Nate does deserve a lot of credit for being able to lead a team that has had so many new players and so many injuries in the last 2 years. Also his teams always seem to be competitive.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

I should add that Nate seems too set in his ways. He has been a head coach for a while now so I think his chances of modifying his ways are more remote than Brooks'.

The needs of a young team, or a team with a lot of new players is much different than the needs of a team that is established with lots of veterans or ingrained system of play. It is rare that you get a coach who can fit both needs well.

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

In my opinion Nate's strong points are that he works hard to prepare his team and he is ready and willing to impose his will. This was important when he took over the team that was barely out of its JailBlazers era.

On the other hand if you find that Brooks isn't flexible with his substitution patterns and has very limited offensive strategies and ineffective defense against half court sets then you would be an even busier blogger with Nate at the helm. He seems also very controlling with his point guards... it's not a coincidence that the Blazers play at such a slow pace.

He would have probably been a good coach with this group to instill some good principles like accountability... but Brooks has done this really well.

justin
justin 5pts

Nate is fantastic. It's tough with the Blazers because they have so much depth.. when you're as deep as that team and you lose games you're going to get second guessed a lot. Same with Rick Carlisle in Dallas. There are always going to be capable players not getting big minutes...

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

Scott Brooks: We knew we were in for a long series, we didn't think we were gonna sweep them."

http://www.newsok.com/multimedia/video/80246415001

He's got a sense of humor. Looks relaxed and I think he believes in his team and that no doubt helps them believe in themselves... that's probably pretty important for any team but especially a young team.

Scotty may have shortcomings, but I still think he is a great match for this team right now.

Other coaches not getting the love from their fans... Nate isn't a unanimously popular coach with all the Blazersedge folks:

http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/4/23/1439318/nate-mcmillan

Some similar complaints, not an Xs and Os coach, rigid rotations, switching up on P & R, more of a motivational coach versus a strategic coach. Very interesting and I agree somewhat but I have a feeling that Brooks will still develop more than Nate will.

I feel Nate was a good choice for the Blazers for a few years to get them competitive again but he does have a lot of shortcomings to take them to the next level... maybe the same will be true for Brooks.

justin
justin 5pts

One thing I'd like to change going forward this series is how much Kevin Durant handles the ball. His USG% in this series is 36.3%, which is way too high. It's higher than Carmelo, LeBron, Joe Johnson, Derrick Rose.. and all those guys are play makers besides being scorers.

We're force feeding Durant a little too much and he's shooting a little too much. Considering the fact he's up against a defense that's selling out on him, against a top defender at his position, we should be spreading the ball out more. Let Green handle it some.. let Russ handle it most of the time. Durant handling the ball this much is leading to a lot of turnovers and poor shot selection.. and plays into Phil Jackson's defensive scheme. Spreading the love a bit would go a long way toward improving the half court offense.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@justin
And let's not forget, no matter who Kobe guards, it means that Fisher is on someone else. Thabo can finish at the rim, and Harden is capable of being a great shooter. Moreover, they both would have huge size and strength advantages. LA can beat us up all day inside. But on the wings, they simply get to pick their poison.

With a locked in Kobe on Westbrook, that's one fewer defender to help on Durant.

andrew
andrew 5pts

Ya, I think Westbrook will still get penetration on Kobe... If Kobe can neutralize Westbrook then it is up to Fisher to stop Harden... Either way I like our chances provided that Kobe doesnt get healthy all of a sudden and become more of a weapon offensively..

justin
justin 5pts

@Vahagn

I don't think fouling Russ hard will deter him from getting to the rim.. if anything it would encourage him knowing his attitude.

Putting Kobe on Westbrook might limit him some in the half court but that's not where he's doing most of his damage, it's in transition. The Lakers just have to make shots if they want to limit Westbrook, or get to the line more. On misses, especially long misses, Westbrook is torching you guys before your defense has a chance to set.

If he's making his mid range shots putting Kobe on him won't make much of a difference.

Vahagn
Vahagn 5pts

This series will be decided when the Lakers are willing to punish Westbrook every time he drives to the basket. He needs to be leveled every time. Right now our big guys are scared of picking up fouls so they move out the way or jump straight up. The jumping straight up thing didn't work, ESPECIALLY IN OKC, where the Thunder shot about 20 more FT's than LA.

Also, i anticipate that Phil will put Kobe on Westbrook in either game 5 or game 7. He will shut him down the same way he shuts down Rajon Rondo when the Lakers play the Celtics. He sags off and knows the proper spacing to be able to recover when Westbrook shoots a 3. Not to mention, By placing him on Westbrook at the top of the key, Kobe is in prime position to leak out after every missed jumper for easy transition points. Let's see if Phil makes the adjustment I think he will

Yoni from Israel
Yoni from Israel 5pts

Good piece.That James Harden pic...damn ugly as hell...like he just had a root cannel or something!!!

justin
justin 5pts

@Keith

Yeah I saw but that description seems kind of ambiguous.. doesn't say how he used the data to come to his conclusions, does it?

Keith
Keith 5pts

@justin
"The NBA has an interesting application on their site called "Hot Zones" that shows you how a player shoots from a certain spot on the floor. I can give you the same information but I can break it down with much more detail.

Take Kobe Bryant for example, we have every shot he (and every other player in the league) has taken in the last five seasons.

How does Kobe Bryant's shooting chart look when Bruce Bowen is on the floor (guarding him). How does it look with Shane Battier? (I know, small sample size, but you get the idea).

How does it look with X lineup for the Lakers, or how does it look with just Gasol on the floor, and on and on."

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

I haven't even read the story yet, but that picture is great!!!

justin
justin 5pts

Wow. I've played poker with Haralabos Voulgaris some years ago, he's a poker pro now... he's definitely a sharp guy. Didn't know he was into this sort of thing.

I wonder if he massages the data at all to adjust for lineup differences. I think some of what hinders Jeff Green is the pairing of him and Nenad Krstic, who isn't going to really make up for Green's lack fo size. Going from Krstic / Green to Ibaka / Collison makes Green look bad and Collison look good.

These kind of things just re-inforce my belief that Green / Krstic is a disaster defensively.. we're a good defensive team but we go about it the hard way.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@f5alcon
It was limited to players playing "significant time" at their position. I'm not sure what significant is, but everyone listed played at least 18 mpg. But that still means Green was a worse defender than most teams' sixth men.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Keith
i assume it was just starters, and really out of those greens numbers are near the bottom of the league, he just cant stop big power forwards from scoring, doesnt block shots or grab defensive rebounds. I like green, he just isnt a PF.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@f5alcon
I'm not going to pretend I thought he was good. I've been a proponent of moving him to the bench. But one of the worst defenders in the entire league? Considering the amount of actual detail given to the research, I thought some of Kev's praise for Green's ability to get out and contest would show up. Even if I thought he was a poor defender and ill-suited to be a starting 4, I didn't think he was worst in the NBA level by any means.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Keith
its not that surprising, green is undersized, playing out of position. He has a much lower block percentage then collison and ibaka and is a poor rebounder. He is much better at the 3.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Keith
Jordan Farmar and Derek Fisher also make the honorable mention list, so now I want to see Westbrook drop 35-10-8 in one of the next two games.

Keith
Keith 5pts

Not to steal the convo or anything, but I saw an article today with less than good news on Jeff Green. It lists the worst defensive players in the NBA. Green makes honorable mention, being beat out by Charlie Villanueva (Pistons' D!) for the PF spot. It apparently came out last week, but I didn't see it in discussion or Bolts.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/15180/haralabos-voulgaris-names-the-nbas-worst-defenders

nick
nick 5pts

@Anonymous
That was me

DangunPop
DangunPop 5pts

Great Article!

I live out in LA (by way of Seattle mind you, bust just love Scotty Brooks and KD too much to hold a grudge) so I get an earful on the daily about how the lakers are the only team in the association that seem to matter. It is an AMAZING experience watching this series in public. No one out here has really seen too much of KD, and when he started lighting it up in the 3rd of game 3, omfg, you should have see the distress on the faces of all the folks out here (Who the F**K is THAT??! and why is he pulling up from 5 feet behind the 3 point line?!)

Those unfamiliar to the Thunder and its personnel completely underestimate that this team has a HUGE capacity for growth and adaptation. IN GAME 3 KD PLAYED WITH EARLY FOUL TROUBLE and still put up the line he did. INCREDIBLE testament to how smart and aware this kid is (not to mention the nature of SB's relationship with KD). We all know that he is a gym rat but he also has the leadership ability to lead his team into a balanced and healthy mental focus that I believe will make up for any lack of post season experience.

Laker fans, hell, most fairweather NBA fans just see guys on the floor. One team is young and the other are the Lakers and Kobe and a Kardashian. Young and unexperienced teams are a huge dog in this situation, usually succumbing to the mental pitfalls of being on tv and in the playoffs. But I get the feeling that KD is no normal youngster and that his physical attributes are actually second to his mental capacities.

Win or lose, the real story here is how KD and SB have altered the destinies of all the young guys on that team. All wildly talented with bright futures, they could've landed anywhere, but they landed here, learning how to both play the game and absolutely enjoy their time together. You see it, right? The faces (great pic btw!), the smiles, the fun...its not just "cause their young", its because they have perspective, its because the scoring champ and runner up MVP of the f'ing NBA actually understands humility and is an egalitarian.

I wholeheartedly expect the Thunder to take it to the wire. And if they dont win it, its only because Kobe has enough cortisone in him to make Lance Armstrong wince. No mental lapses here, not with this crew. Its theirs to lose as much as it is the Lakers.

Bring on game 5!!!!!!!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

hornets fans are jealous of the thunder
http://www.hornets247.com/blog/2010/04/26/im-a-grumpy-old-man-and-hoping-okc-loses

dork
dork 5pts

MarcUpNorth :@SmackDaddy

The worst thing about the extra day off is I have to wait an extra day before seeing the game!

Ahh soo true indeed!

MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@SmackDaddy

LOL great caption!

As far as the extra days off... maybe it just lets the pressure build on LA plus they will be a day older.

As far as our best chances... if we go back for a game 7 maybe it just lets the pressure build on LA, but really, plus they will be that much older!

It's a best 2 outta 3, doesn't matter in what order they come in, you have to win 2. You can only play them one at a time so we may as well just focus on the next game.

The worst thing about the extra day off is I have to wait an extra day before seeing the game!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Clark Matthews
well it was your article way back that turned westbrook into the dominant player he is,lol.

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