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Film Study: Transition defense, or the lack thereof

by Royce Young on April 15, 2010 at 11:35 am 20 Comments

Hubie Brown hammered the Thunder last night for poor transition defense against the Grizzlies early on after Oklahoma City gave up four easy buckets. And he was right. Transition defense has become a bit of an achilles for the otherwise stout Thunder defense. Let’s watch the four easy transition buckets that came early.

To recap: O.J. Mayo scored on a runout layup, Mike Conley Jr. went to the rim with little resistance, Mayo went to the rim with little resistance and then Conley got back into the paint and to the rim. If you wanted to simplify three of those, it’s just that the Thunder didn’t stop the ball. It’s the number one rule of transition defense. Stop the ball, make the player pass. A pass gives your teammates a chance to recover and hopefully set up. But let’s look at it one by one.

The first breakout was just that Kevin Durant didn’t get back on Mayo. Mayo runs right by KD, giving Conley an easy, open pass ahead to Mayo. Part of that happened because Thabo got knocked down, leading to some confusion on who was picking up who. Durant stumbled getting out the way of Thabo and then communication happened just a second too late. Mayo is Thabo’s man, but the message to KD to pick him up didn’t happen soon enough. Sometimes, like this, it’s just misfortune.

The second one is the worst to me. Conley goes to the rim and no one stops him. It happens for a simple reason: Nick Collison is guarding him. And look, the Grizzlies are even playing three on four. So why does this happen? Because of Russell Westbrook. If you watch again in the video, Westbrook does what he often does – he hangs back to swipe at a rebounder. That’s all fine and good, but Mike Conley had leaked out for an outlet. So what happens? Westbrook is standing back on Hasheem Thabeet while Nick Collison has to compensate and pick up Westbrook’s man in transition. That’s a simple thing to fix. Westbrook does a good job making teams take up a little shot clock and being disruptive when he hangs back, but a team can beat that very easily by throwing longer outlet passes. It’s what Memphis did right here and it caught OKC on its heels.

This play was because of some indecisiveness on the part of Westbrook and poor communication. Mayo grabs a rebound and runs out on his own. Westbrook starts to stop him, but that’s not his man. So he turns his head back to find Mike Conley and in that split second, Mayo runs to the rim. I would imagine Westbrook saw Durant ahead and assumed he’d stop the ball. Which is of course what KD should have done. Stop ball, forced Mayo to kick out to an open Rudy Gay and then just help and recover everywhere, trying to get set back up to defend.

The last play is just a quality drive by Conley, coupled with the fact Jeff Green didn’t stop the ball higher and let Conley get into the painted area (LOOK AT ME! I’M LIKE HUBIE!). Sometimes these type of things happen. It’s why teams like to run. When you get out on transition you get mismatches and you get chaos for a defense. You just have to have a smart playmaker that knows what to do with the ball, which Conley is.

All in all, transition defense is a bit of an issue, but in my mind, something easily fixed. I’m sure the Lakers might try and key on that a little, but they aren’t typically a team that runs a lot. It’s about communication, awareness and in some cases, plain hustle.

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MarcUpNorth
MarcUpNorth 5pts

@justin

justin :
I don’t like to single out Russ because it seems like it’s part of the game plan to crash the offensive boards with our guards. There was an article awhile ago (mid season?) after we got pummelled on the offensive boards. It stated we are a good rebounding team because the rebounding duties are spread out, and it paid tribute to our high rebounding starting guard tandem. Obviously, we’re seeing that such an arrangement isn’t optimal.

When RW learns to go for occasional offensive rebounds, blocks, steals etc at the right moment he will really be a force. Right now he seems to try to do too much and not necessarily at the best time... still he has unique skills which could make him a terror in the league... I mean at times he is already but his gambles often end up costing us more often then they pay off right now IMO. Still I like the edge he brings... just like Serge, maybe he gets out of position because he is going for the block too often but its nice to know he has the ability to do it :)

holdmymartian
holdmymartian 5pts

@nick
Start Harden and Ibaka.

holdmymartian
holdmymartian 5pts

A few things they need to do. A)Put a body on the defensive rebounder once he rebounds the ball. This prevents an easy outlet pass. B)Send either Thabo or Westbrook into a centerfielder position on the opponents 3 point line. This guarantees a defender is back in good postion.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@nick
I'd still start Harden. Even early on, Thabo's overall impact on the team was a little sketchy. It's easy to forget that while he held Wade, Kobe, or Martin to lower percentages/points, he was worse than a non-factor on the other end. Top scorers didn't have to expend any effort on the defensive end because Thabo doesn't (and in most cases can't) shoot, and it constantly makes things easy for opposing defenses who want to double Durant.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

thabo can come off the bench and still guard the opposing teams star, its not like what the star does in the 1st quarter really matters, thabo can lock him up in the 4th if needed.

justin
justin 5pts

I would still start James Harden if our roster remains the same. I don't think a Westbrook / Thabo backcourt can be successful unless we get another high efficiency scorer in the starting lineup (C or PF).

nick
nick 5pts

So I have a hypothetical for everybody regarding Thabo (that's my tenuous string relating this post to the article- Thabo plays defense). Say after the season is over, we learn that Thabo has had some lingering injury that has affected his play and brought about the dropoff that we've all seen from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. And let's say that nagging injury only needs rest, and all indications are that he will come back next year at full strength with the ability to play the way he did for the first half of the season. Do we still want to start Harden? I fully understand Harden's impact on the offense, but obviously the good version of Thabo had a monumental impact on the defense early in the year. And some poster has mentioned this, I just don't see Thabo having much utility if he isn't matched up with the other team's best perimeter scorer. So bringing him off the bench would seem counterproductive. The obvious parallel here is Bruce Bowen and Manu Ginobli, although Bowen was less useless on offense because of that corner three. I guess my vote would go for starting Thabo against any team with a high-scoring 2 or 3 and otherwise starting Harden, but obviously that doesn't play well with the continuity approach that Brooks has stood by all year. What say you all? (Note: if new Thabo is indeed the Thabo we have going forward, definitely just start Harden. But its a more interesting discussion if Thabo can return to form)

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@justin
should hire hakeem as our big man coach.

justin
justin 5pts

I don't like to single out Russ because it seems like it's part of the game plan to crash the offensive boards with our guards. There was an article awhile ago (mid season?) after we got pummelled on the offensive boards. It stated we are a good rebounding team because the rebounding duties are spread out, and it paid tribute to our high rebounding starting guard tandem. Obviously, we're seeing that such an arrangement isn't optimal.

Instead of letting our guards go nuts on the boards, Brooks should implement a conventional scheme and teach the basics of boxing out, bodying up, and getting back on defense when you're beat on the glass. Even with Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic as our front court, I think it would benefit the team to sacrifice some of its offensive glass muscle to strengthen the transition defense and instill some fundamentals.

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

@Mark!

I guess what I mean to say is, I think we've been given credit for being a more complete team than we are. We have a lot of promising features, but we have some notable holes as well.

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

I agree 100% with justin. This isn't new. Our team has sucked on fast break defense all season. We were pretty rotten on fast break offense at the beginning of the season, but we've picked that up a little since. As long as our guards are fishing for offensive rebounds, our transition defense won't be very good. Pretty basic.

The Thunder's reputation has benefitted from a lack of national exposure. Ideas like Westbrook is a great defender (as opposed to an oft-times lazy screen/PNR defender who doesn't even guard elite PG's and cheats passing lanes too often) and Green is a great player that compliments our core perfectly (as opposed to a good player playing out of his depth at PF causing our team problems on defense -- really the root cause of our risky switching shell scheme that can be beaten by good passing -- and rebounding -- one of the main reasons our guards have to fight for offensive boards instead of getting back on defense... these ideas are going to be exposed on national TV and dissected by analysts over the next week.

KB
KB 5pts

Normally bad transition D is due to effort. I'm not saying that's all the reason for the Thunder's woes, but I think if they increased the effort to run back and protect the goal they will be fine.

kev
kev 5pts

Good job Royce . .

the main thing all season (and last) is Wesbtrook's eagerness to get a steal - you RARELY get a steal in backcourt that swipe always leads to a runout . . . he has to stop doing this . . . I am confident that if we see it, then the coaching staff sees it - so why is he still doing it after two years . . .

Colin B
Colin B 5pts

great breakdown

justin
justin 5pts

I guess it's no surprise that Kevin Durant had the highest PER this year of any player in ThunderSonics history, by a fair margin.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

if we had a big that is a good offensive rebounder then that helps a lot. For now though we are weak in transition, but against the lakers that doesnt hurt us, they are not a transition offense team.

Royce Young
Royce Young 5pts

@justin
I agree. I think it'll have to be something the staff weighs pros and cons of. Right now, OKC is one of the very best offensive rebounding teams in the league. But then again, they're a bad transition defense team. You've kind of got to pick your poison there, or maybe come up with a solution for it.

justin
justin 5pts

I don't think this is something that gets fixed completely until the offseason. They have to decide whether or not they want their guards crashing the offensive boards, it's what causes a ton of these transition opportunities.

Great read..

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