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P, L, and T: Hate Them Now — Lakers Edition

by Clark Matthews on April 15, 2010 at 2:18 pm 134 Comments

To tell you the truth, I wanted to wait on this editon of “Hate Them Now.”  There are 29 teams in the NBA that are harder to dislike than the evil empire in Los Angeles, so giving our readers a list of what to hate about the Lakers will be so easy that it’s hard.  Obviously, I’ll miss some things, and sadly, some of the things I list will actually be endearing qualities to the scumbags who root for the team.

However, with the first round of the playoffs rapidly approaching and the Lake Show being the Thunder’s first opponent in “the Second Season,” it has to be now.

In a way, it is a perfect scenario.  Any movie written about a ragtag bunch of misfits who pull together and achieve more as a whole than ever could have been expected of them always ends with a matchup against a team like the Lakers.  Whether it’s the Indians finally taking down their nemesis Yankees to win a one-game playoff, or the Permian Panthers coming up short against Dallas Carter…the climax is always the same scenario.  Some book called The Bible also played on the same formula when some meek sheep herder slayed a freaking giant.

For the Thunder, that giant is Kobe, and his running mates represent just as much evil as those Philistines.  Their glitz, braun, and riches are cheap methods of winning meaningless championships that can be tossed in their trophy case like Scrooge McDuck flipping a nickle into his money silo.  And just as David’s confidence and guile was the standard which the ancient Jews wanted their people to aspire, the Thunder’s brand of chemistry fueled basketball is what true fans of the NBA should hope takes the series.

While I hate to jinx it, I believe Oklahoma City has a fantastic opportunity to do just that.  Sure, the Thunder have sort of limped into the playoffs with some less than stellar play down the stretch, but compared to the Lakers, they look like they are firing on all gears.  L.A. just finished their season by losing to their crosstown rivals, and lottery slummers, by seventeen. 

One poor game would be explainable, but in their final fourteen games against teams that qualified for the playoffs, the Lakers won just four times.  One of those losses was to the Thunder who blew them out beginning at the opening tip.  Of course, Lakers fans (who are genuinely awful people**) are loaded with excuses:

  • Kobe’s finger broke. 
  • Andrew Bynum sat out with an Achilles injury. 
  • The whole team was on cruise control because they locked up the West’s best record early.
  • Phil Jackson, the master plotter, is inspiring false confidence in potential opponents by hiding the team’s best schemes.

Maybe they are all right.  Perhaps Kobe will wrap his hand a different way and become a demigod again.  Andrew Bynum might gimp around on his sore ankle and prove to be the league MVP Lakers’ fans thought he was before the injury while calling for him to back up Lamar Odom.  And they proved they could flip a switch and suddenly become instantly dominant:  ten years ago with Shaq on the team, and Kobe’s odometer reading a lot fewer miles.  As far as the Zen Master’s scheming…well, we’ll get to that in the reasons to hate the team.

(Note:  The reasons listed are, by no means, intended to be a comprehensive list.  If you think about it, at all, you can come up with plenty of your own reasons which will have been carelessly omitted by me.  Also, many of these points were emailed to me by the wonderful readers of this website, truly 180 degrees from Lakers fans**, and unfortunatley I can’t cite each of them individually.  If I used one of your submissions and you want credit, feel free to pat yourself on the back in the comments section.)

Kobe “Freaking” Bryant

There are villains, and then there is Kobe Bean Bryant.  Not since Barry Bonds’ was using his giant roided out melon to make a mockery of Major League records has there been a person so universally loatheable.  Throw out that Bryant was once accused of rape and hired the same lawyer as Jon Benet Ramsey’s parents to avoid trial.  Forget that single handedly forced Shaq out of Los Angeles by screwing over the Clippers (tricking them into gutting their team for salary cap space and then re-signing with the Lakers when they promised to trade their superstar center).  Don’t think about how he pouts when his team struggles, then quits while still on the floor.  Even put out of your mind that he once broke Mike Bibby’s nose with his elbow, and then scowled at the bleeding player as Kobe went to the free throw line for the encounter.

All you need to do is watch him play over however many games this series lasts to know he is evil incarnate.  He is going to verbally abuse the officials, his teammates, and probably fans who taunt him all the while enjoying superstar treatment and pretending he is getting screwed.  Odds are he’ll also make some pretty important plays at pretty important times…which will really suck.

Also, during the playoffs, he breaks out his “Zombie from old Nintendo game” face whenever he makes a big play.

Jordan Farmar

Personally, I don’t have anything in particular that bothers me about the Lakers’ back up point guard, but one reader really hates him.  He says it’s mainly the ears.  But he also points out that Farmar was featured in a Sports Science article about dunking.  To my knowledge, the guy has never dunked in a game.  It would be like them doing a dunking feature with me.  This kind of gets to the point about how the Lakers live in a different universe.  Their bench warmers get star treatment.

Ron Artest

Another reader, who rooted for the Pacers in his childhood, made a good point about Ron Artest.  People seem to gloss over the fact that this guy stormed into a crowd and attacked the nerdiest looking white guy he could find because someone threw ice at Artest while his eyes were closed.  Now, people seem to think of him as just this quirky guy who imitates Dennis Rodman’s hairstyle choices and chooses jersey numbers to honor the King of Pop.  He’s one step from being a homicidal maniac.  Remember, Oklahoma City, remember.

Phil Jackson

There is a fine line between being a “Zen Master” and ”Zen Douchebag.”  Jackson crossed that line earlier this week in pre-emptively lobbying the officials to look the other way while he sends his goons to molest Kevin Durant.  Durant, as the classy individual he is, had the perfect response, which Henry Abbott brokedown wonderfully.

Me, I’m not so classy, so I want to address why Jackson’s comments were not only intellectually dishonest but outright false.  First, Jackson has been the beneficiary of “superstar calls” his entire coaching career.  He has never coached a team that did not have Michael Jordan, Shaquille O’Neal, or Kobe Bryant…all players who have been given special treatment by officials. 

Second, Durant earns his free throw attempts.  He has zero offensive weaknesses.  If defenders crowd him, he can blow by them or get open with one of his plethora of moves.  If they sag on him, he just raises up over them and hits a jumpshot.  So, defenders think their only chance at slowing him down is by playing physical with him, and Durant is too smart to not take advantage of that.  If a defender puts his hand on him, he quickly takes a shot and forces the referees hand.  The Lakers, who assign Ron Artest to guard Durant actually get away with manhandling Durant more than anyone else.  Artest, whose reputation as a great defender affords him a different kind of superstar call, clutches and grabs right in front of the referees in an effort to keep Durant from ever touching the ball.  When he finally does get called for molesting the Thunder star, he demonstratively complains and somehow doesn’t get T’d up.

Purple

“They wear purple–Barney the Dinosaur wears purple, and we all (over the age of 4) hate HIM!”

Pau Gasol

One reader called him “the missing link.”  Also, he complains about calls just as much as Kobe.

Adam Morrison

Personally, I like “The Great Mustachio” and it saddens me that he “plays” for the team I hate most.  But plenty of other people who emailed me dislike him and think he’s a perfect fit on the end of the Lakers’ bench.

Another guy actually complained about the Lakers relegating Morrison, and his mustache, to the bench…that’s more my thinking.

Laker Fans

To my recollection, not a single person who responded to my call for reasons to hate the Lakers failed to mention Lakers fans, who were by far number one on my list.  Lakers fans are the same people who root for the Yankees in baseball, the higher seed during March Madness, and the house in blackjack.  They boo when Rudy getting playing time for Notre Dame and think Julia Roberts should have won the guy in “My Best Friend’s Wedding.”  (Mrs. Matthews may have inspired that last one.)  They love the front runner because they look no further than the win column when choosing a team.

And, of course, leaving out the celebrity “fans” that attend games to raise their profile while shouting “Good shot, Colby” would be a huge mistake.

Thunder Tim’s List

Some of this has already been addressed, but this guy really did some brainstorming, so I’m publishing his manifesto unedited:

I hate their apathetic fans.
I hate that their apathetic fans show up don’t get to the game until the second quarter.
I hate that the Lakers and the USC Trojans are part of the fan base.
I hate the dim lighting in the arena so the said apathetic fans can hide in anonymity.
I hate the traffic in LA.
I hate the snobby attitudes of people in LA.
I hate how expensive everything is in LA.
I hate the smog in LA.  It can be suffocating.
I hate it when the LA movie stars give their opinions on politics.  What the heck do you people know about government policy, anyway?
I hate all the celebrities that go to Lakers’ games just to be cool.
I hate when Jack Nicholson getting all up in arms when things don’t go the team’s way.  cry me a river, Jack.
I hate the name “Lakers” because, really, they don’t have many lakes in L.A.
I hate Sasha Vujacic’s frenetic antics.
I hate Vujacic’s greasy eastern European look.  Being eastern European is no excuse.
I hate it that I can’t hate Derek Fisher.  I don’t like him as a player but is an awfully admirable dad.
I hate Kobe Bryant’s smug attitude.
I hate how good Kobe is.
I hate it when people say Kobe’s better than Jordan.  No frickin’ way.
I hate it that Kobe’s been surrounded by such a great supporting cast and has won so many championships.
I hate it that Kobe changed his number.  What a mean thing to do the kids that saved their allowance to buy the first jersey.
I hate it that the Lakers beat the Magic.  I like Dwight Howard a lot.
I hate that the Lakers got such a good deal on Pau Gasol.  How as that fair?
I hate Phil Jackson.  He is not anywhere near the greatest coach of all time, despite what he would lead us to believe.
I hate that Phil Jackson hates the south-midwest.  Snob.
I hate all of Jackson’s zen mumbo-jumbo.
I hate how goofy Adam Morrison is.
I hated listening to Bill Walton call games.  I kind of hate his kid (although I do like his 5 stick-figure tattoo on his shoulder).
I hate Robert Horry and his late game heroics.
I hated it when Magic Johnson destroyed (in my mind) the innocence of sport (though he has made quite a comeback for me because he is just so darn likeable).
I hated it when Ron Artest went into the stands in that awful game.  What an awful black-eye on this game.
I (love to) hate how crazy Ron Artest is.  What a nut job.
I hate the Lakers for coming back on Pippen and the Blazers in game 7 of the 2000 playoffs.
I hate how many titles the Lakers have.
I hate the Lakers for never folding.
I hate how good they were with Shaq.

_____________

** - After the series is over, we can go back to being friends, Laker fans.

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Tony
Tony 5pts

What happened to having fun and making jokes? This is a THUNDER blog, it wasn't written for Laker fans. You don't like it? NO ONE CARES. I don't read your blog. Why? Because I don't care. It was a fun post to get us driven up for the playoffs. Trash talking isn't the bread and butter of this site. If you read more than this post you would know that. Please. Just Shut up. If you want to generalize everything on this site by one Laker-Hating post then do it. We are playing the Lakers, we want to hate them. Let us hate them. We don't have to like them. Jordan Farmar has big ears. Let it go.

seth
seth 5pts

@lakerfan4life

@lakerfan4life My thoughts exactly, bro. Talking trash all the time is not real sports writing. Making solid, sound, in-depth analysis of the facts at hand - THAT is real sports writing. Of course you've got pepper in some trash talking here and there for fun, but if that is your bread and butter, you're gonna make pretty tasteless toast every time. And as a corollary, appealing to the lowest common denominator at all times is none to respectable either. I came here to see what kind of blog there was for this new and exciting team who is now our playoff opponent for the first time (Seattle doesn't count and we haven't played them in the post-season in many years anyway). I guess I was expecting something a bit more respectable like we have, or Spurs fans have, or Nuggets fans have. And I was wrong. But good luck and though I wish the series will be short so we can get more time and rest, it'll definitely be fun to watch it go to 6, as I anticipate. Best of luck to the Thunder and you, the fans.

LakerFanatic4Life
LakerFanatic4Life 5pts

Lakers in 5

Sean
Sean 5pts

Right now, the Lakers playing is painful to watch. Derek Fisher, one of my favorite players, has a rough time defending any PG in the league. Good instincts, but just too slow. Kobe, inefficient and injured. Ron, just inefficient as hell. Pau, too much complaining. Bynum, too many injuries. Bench, extremely inconsistent on both ends. Lived in LA my whole life and been a Laker fan for a long time now. Hopefully, we can go all the way again this year, but I don't see it happening. Hope the Thunder pressure that Lakers in this series, so they can see that no team is at the top. You always have to have a challengers mentality if you want to win.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

Of course I mention it and now the site works. ;)

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

He is just pestering us because it seems that forumblueandgold is down.

Tony
Tony 5pts

Krstic is ugly like a bulldog, it's adorable ugly. Gasol is just ugly.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

@lakerfan4life

We get it dude, you don't like snarky humor. Such a fact was alluded to several times in the article and in the comments, but you're still missing the point, or purposefully ignoring it.

You can't "win" the message board by trying to convince us that this isn't a snarky article after all, but rather some sort of journalistic endeavor into beat writing. No reasonable reader is going to fall for that.

lakerfan4life
lakerfan4life 5pts

so what you're saying is you'd rather have your readers accept the fact that these are the articles that you're gonna write time and time again instead of being accountable for their uselessness. great. OKC fans, after you lose, come join a real fan base with real beat writers, not cultist

Clark Matthews
Clark Matthews 5pts

I guess I should have added a portion to the part about Lakers Fans about them having no sense of humor. Dear God, they root for the most hateable team in the NBA, and they still act shocked (SHOCKED!) that someone would make fun of their team. Where were they three weeks ago when I wrote a similar article about the Jazz? And where will they be in a few weeks when I write about the Milwaukee Bucks? Probably back in there own little world where everything revolves around the Los Angeles Lakers.

lakerfan4life
lakerfan4life 5pts

http://www.oklahomacitythunderforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1032

'nuff said. country bumpkins for sure

lakerfan4life
lakerfan4life 5pts

it might be tongue in cheek, but its in bad taste. (puns are funny too, but not as aggressive) i challenge you to find a post on any of the plethora of laker blogs and sites that attack the Thunder in a remotely similar way

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

I think many of Laker fans are taking this post too seriously. It was a tounge in cheek poke at the Lakers to rile up the Thunder's fanbase. Plain and simple.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

I think the hate toward Lakers fans are for the bandwagoners. I hope you don't consider yourself one.

lakerfan4life
lakerfan4life 5pts

seriously, i (with all my laker apathy) could have written an article against the lakers better than this. how about attacking lamar's fiasco with the kardashians? that's something I could agree on. Lamar doesn't need any more distractions, and is in enough limelight already as a laker. How about some match-up comparisons outside of the obvious ones (fisher-westbrook, kobe-thabo, durant-artest)? OH YEA cuz all of the other ones are disadvantageous to you? SO WHAT? even a slightly self-deprecating article would show the maturity and humility that this team needs to win. This pathetic excuse for a hate rant does nothing but put shame to the intellectuals who have been given the responsibility to cover a very exciting and inspiring team in its budding stages. What do you achieve in inciting these fruitless insults? some token grunts of approval from the masses and a stern shake of the head from the true, knowledgeable fans.

chris66
chris66 5pts

Number two, none of the reasons to hate were good. Not the best article I have seen here. Sorry DT.

lakerfan4life
lakerfan4life 5pts

As a fan of the lakers whose witnessed the bad times (as short as they were) along with the good, this shit makes me laugh. so, you hate us cuz we win. you hate kobe's preferred treatment but don't acknowledge durant's. you hate us cuz we wear purple. i'd comment but you might be too juvenile to understand. you hate pau cuz he's ugly. Krstic is SO hot though. but the most ensconcing of them all. YOU HATE ME?????
when you lump all laker lovers into the same, bandwagon hopping milieu of crackhead fanatics,you forget that the thunder have only been in OKC for two years! i guess we aren't the only border hoppers in the country.
seriously though, when you're knocking on pau, sasha, and adam just for their ugliness, it kinda makes you look like a pansy. just saying.

chris66
chris66 5pts

I ain't mad at the Lake Show. I hated da' Bulls when Jordan was there, I refuse to miss the best player of an era because I usually root for an under dog. I mean, I HATE the Lakers until this series is over, but I can honestly say I hope the winner of this series wins the whole thing.

if the Lakers do win the whole thing, think about how hilariously butt-hurt the world will be. Delicious

Sorry to defend them, GO THUNDER!!!!!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@seth
well you aer missing 1 important piece, trevor ariza. he shot 47% from 3 in last years playoffs, artest cant do that. His career playoff 3 pt % is 31%. That is a big difference

seth
seth 5pts

Ahhh, ok. Then yeah, that's good you're grateful and thats true you aren't a typical 8 seed. But the odds are pretty long for a young and inexperienced team like the Thunder to beat a veteran squad whose had essentially the same roster for the last 2 years and been to the finals twice and won once. I just was taken aback when I decided to check out the blog of our opponent and all I get is a bunch of shit-talking with little depth. I was looking for some insight. But yeah, it should be a good series and I'm anxious to see how KD does under the bright lights of the postseason. Good luck man - you're gonna need it.

Mully Mulls
Mully Mulls 5pts

@seth
Dude... take a chill pill. He was gonna write somthing like this regardless of who we were to play. You definately need to keep this in mind though... we are shocked and grateful to be here, but we are in no way satisfied. Kobe better bring his lunchpail, cuz he's got some work to do. We are no typical 8 seed.

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

@girlballer
For serious.

seth
seth 5pts

oh btw. I predict you guys we be like Houston was to us in the Semis last year and you will take us to 6 or perhaps even 7 games.........

But make no mistake: WE WILL WIN muahahhahahahahahahahah! You will learn the ways of the post-season, and we will be the ones to teach you.

seth
seth 5pts

Wow Clark, what's with all the vitriol? You talk a lot of shit for a team going into it's first post-season (italics) ever. Why so much hate? Were you a Kings fan before in the Lakers last dynasty era? Or you just hate greatness if it's not on your side? Do you think it's an accident the Lakers are the winningest franchise in the last decade, and the last 30 years since owner Dr. Jerry Buss bought the team? No, because we love to win and we know how to win, almost regardless of who is in charge who is playing. And about Kobe Bryant in particular, I suppose it's a fluke marketing fluke that he's sold more jerseys than Lebron James for the past several years, and has even outsold Yao Ming in CHINA! That would be like Ban Ki Moon being more popular in America then Barack Obama! Dude, you talk the talk, now lets see if your team can walk the walk. I will give you in credit where credit is due in Coach Brooks, and obviously Kevin Durant, who is really just great to watch as a fan of the game in general. But man, learn how to write a bit better and learn to hold you tongue a bit before you've got the track record to back it up.

Cpt. C-Note
Cpt. C-Note 5pts

I just got my "Why not" shirts from Tree n Leaf yesterday, and woke up to get my PLAYOFF TIX TO GAME 3 AND 4!!! I'm freakin' pumped! I still can't believe we're going to the post season!! GO THUNDER!!!

girlballer
girlballer 5pts

@Lefty
Beating the Lakers will help 0:)

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

@girlballer
It's that overwhelming Okie inferiority complex at work, is what it is... what can you do, you know?

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

As a former Lakers fan, I can say my opinion of them dropped considerably when they added Karl Malone and Gary Payton to the roster. I wasn't happy when Eddie Jones left either, but that is just me.

Also, remember Jackson is not the poster boy for Buddhism. So be kind to our Buddhist brothers. Now if the Dalai Lama said something about KD then that would be a different story. :)

Mully Mulls
Mully Mulls 5pts

@ThunderfromdownUnder
A win or two... cool! But losing in the 7th would KILL ME!

Dan
Dan 5pts

Woah, take it easy on Bill Walton! Big Red's one of the classiest guys to ever play in the NBA. It's not his fault Toronto wanted Remon van de Hare instead of his son.

holdmymartian
holdmymartian 5pts

@Durantula
Me too

Durantula
Durantula 5pts

PLAY BASKETBALL NOW! I'm a little anxious...

ThunderfromdownUnder
ThunderfromdownUnder 5pts

All my Friends are Laker fans. I'm a Thunder fan in Laker Nation. Its pretty incredible sometimes. Back in March when the Lakers got their butts whooped, my friends even tried to deny the game even happened. Funny stuff going on. Funny thing is, I never gloated.

A Thunder victory this series would be wonderful! But Id be content with a win or two or three

Vega
Vega 5pts

@holdmymartian
DON'T EVEN KID ABOUT THAT.

holdmymartian
holdmymartian 5pts

@Vega
Bring back Earl Watson.

Vega
Vega 5pts

@thunder tim
While they're at it, they might as well bring in Brian Scalabrine too.

thunder tim
thunder tim 5pts

Vega :
I want the Thunder to sign Adam Morrison this offseason.

Totally - he and Mullens would be quite a pair on the bench!!!

Vega
Vega 5pts

I want the Thunder to sign Adam Morrison this offseason.

girlballer
girlballer 5pts

thunderpig :
you single girlballer?

Not for many happy years (and three little ballers....)

girlballer
girlballer 5pts

@Lefty
spoken like a true Okie. We kinda wrote the book on self-effacement. Sarcasm is hard to read online, but I think that your last two sentences are pretty funny.

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

@girlballer
I've always been pretty diplomatic about this kind of stuff. I'll be screaming at the top of my lungs watching the game, booing and hissing everytime Kobe is shown on screen, believe me, but I'm also probably a little too sensitive sometimes to outsiders perceptions of Thunder fans. I'll try to be more of a homer, if you really want. I'll try really hard.

thunder tim
thunder tim 5pts

...and for all those reasons, I absolutely LOVE that we get to take them in the our first even post-season appearance.

The team I love the most against the team I hate the most.

How poetic.

holdmymartian
holdmymartian 5pts

@Tony
I'd rather we make them score less than us for 4.

Tony
Tony 5pts

I think if we score more points than them at least 4 times. We have a shot.

holdmymartian
holdmymartian 5pts

Maybe we can collectively come up with a strategy to beat the lakers...

girlballer
girlballer 5pts

holdmymartian :
So what do we do now since the game isn’t until Sunday?

I think your looking at it.

holdmymartian
holdmymartian 5pts

So what do we do now since the game isn't until Sunday?

AD
AD 5pts

Kobe's smug personality and arrogant character, that's what I don't like. He is not a likable person. Same pretty much goes for Jackson as well.

For any who would defend him, see Kevin Durant before making your arguement.

Mully Mulls
Mully Mulls 5pts

@Mully Mulls
Apparently there's a new verb in the English language and we all did it. Halped? I really need to start proofreading my posts....

Mully Mulls
Mully Mulls 5pts

This article can't be racist... I mean, even my best friend is a Lakers fan... ;)

I am going to really enjoy this series. I haven't been this invested in one since the Kings almost broke up the dynasty but Horry had other plans.... Really? at the top of the key?! WTF were you doin there to begin with?! Aren't you a 4?! UGHHHHH!

I digress... OKC vs LA is exactly what we were wanting when we signed the dotted line for our team. (Taxes is what halped bring them here-well to our home- and we paid them). I wish we would've been riding a winning streak or winning run coming in, but I feel just as confident with Kevin Durant as I did with John Elway back in the day. With him, we'll always have a chance to win.

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