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The Friday Fan: T-Men

by Royce Young on April 30, 2010 at 12:30 pm 35 Comments

(Let me hear you Thunder fans… SOMEBODY SCREEEEEEAM! I mean, send in an email if you’ve got something to share/say (dailythunder@gmail.com). This week, we hear from reader Lefty. And let me say, some of the comparisons were so spot on, it’s kind of creepy.)

So, this is the article where I let my inner geek loose.

I am the type of person that, when people get to know me, they are always surprised I am a sports fan. Like really, really surprised. Like “Wait, you like sports? For serious? Cause I would have never imagined that from you” kind of surprised. I understand it. On the surface, I don’t seem like the kind of person that would be a sports fan.

A few weeks ago when the Thunder were in Boston, I was there too, but, not for the Thunder game – I was there for PAX East. I can frequently be found at New World Comics in OKC, or browsing the Barnes and Noble graphic novel section. I listen to indie rock almost exclusively. On Tuesday nights, I host a Dungeons and Dragons game, for crying out loud.

I mean, in middle school, I played sports, but I was never fast or strong or aggressive enough (though, I was pretty decent at baseball). So, why is it I love the Thunder so much? It took me a while to figure it out exactly, but finally, I was able to pinpoint it – and it made a lot of sense to me, considering my other interests: team-building.

I mean, where would the Avengers or the Justice League be without proper team-building techniques? You can’t expect to get very far in WoW without covering all the necessary roles (healers, DPS, Tanks, etc.). So, something about the puzzle of building a team, and filling in the gaps is what appeals to me most about this Thunder team (and really, sports in general, I guess). I mean, debate all you want about the long-term plans for Nenad Krstic or Jeff Green, or the slipping defense of Thabo Sefolosha, but it would be wrong to say players like these aren’t directly responsible for the improvement of our team. Sam Presti is a team-building genius. At least, so far.

So, this line of thought got me thinking of ways to explain what I mean to you guys. Instantly, it hit me. So, submitted for your approval (and, let’s be honest, your amusement – this isn’t an article that is meant to be completely accurate or taken very seriously), I’d like to compare our team with one of the most influential teams of my youth: the X-Men. Some of the comparisons I draw here will be startlingly accurate. Some will be tenuous at best. All are to get you guys thinking about the job Presti has done at putting together a group like he has, hated and feared by the people they have sworn to protect… er, or something like that. For brevity’s sake, these get shorter as they go. I wanted to keep this under 1500 words. I know you don’t all find this as interesting as I do.

Kevin Durant – Cyclops
Every team needs a leader on the battlefield. On the Thunder, that leader is Kevin Durant. On the X-Men, that leader is Scott “Cyclops” Summers. These are the men that lead by example. They bleed and sweat for their team. They get in the frontline and do whatever it takes to succeed, but also have the range to snipe from a distance. Mostly, these are the guys that buy-in so completely to the plan. Cyclops to the plan of peace between humans and mutants, Durant to the plan of defense and hard-work. Without guys like this, you get nowhere. Also of note is Cyclops’ other nickname, “Slim”.

Russell Westbrook – Wolverine
Did you guys know that Wolverine is only 5’3”? Really. Not only is he the shortest member of the X-Men, he’s also the fastest, toughest, fiercest, and most likely to sway the course of a fight all by himself. As Wolvering goes, so go the X-Men. Sound familiar? There’s a reason Wolverine is so popular. But if he’s not playing as part of the team, why bother even playing? Now, we just need to get to work on Russ’ mutton-chops.

Jeff Green – Storm
During the 90s, the height of the X-Men’s popularity, there were two teams of X-Men: the Blue team, led by Cyclops, and the Gold team, led by Storm. Now, clearly there are a lot of physical disparities between Jeff and Ororo Monroe, but there’s no denying their influence. If KD is the leader on the court, Uncle Jeff is the leader off of it. He’s the calming influence, the level-headed one that keeps everyone in line. Also, did you know Storm is a master lock-pick? Think of some of the games Jeff has stolen from teams like Golden State and Boston.

Thabo Sefolosha – Nightcrawler
Regional origins aside, I love this comparison. Thabo is one of my favorite Thunderers, and Kurt Wagner is one of my favorite X-Men. They’re underrated and oft-overlooked. But, they seem to always show up when you need them. They’re dependable. You always know what you’re getting from them. And they have the knack of being everywhere at once. They’re not the strongest or most skilled on the team, but their role is easily definable, and they work their hardest to fill it.

Nenad Krstic – Colossus
The strong man. The big fella in the middle. These guys are there for one reason – to be tall and strong. They offer more than just that, however. In Pietr Rasputin’s case, it is his artistic side. In Nenad’s case, it is his mid-range jumpshot. Plus, the pick-n-pop relationship that Russ and Nenad have developed can be directly paralleled with the “Fastball Special” this way. That’s fun for me.

Nick Collison – Cable
What doesn’t Cable do? He carries big laser guns. He has some kind of psychic abilities. He’s kind of mysterious, but always there to do his job. Plus, compared to the other guys, he’s kind of old. I don’t think Nick is the future grown-up son of Kevin Durant, but you never really know, do you?

James Harden – Gambit
Laid-back, easy-going, free-wheeling. Lots of hyphenated adjectives to use here. Fan-favorite. And when Harden’s shot is on, it really seems like it’s got that NBA JAM-like kinetic energy Gambit charges his cards up with, doesn’t it?

Serge Ibaka – Kitty Pride
Here’s where we start reaching. Kitty has one job on the team – protection. She isn’t an offensive powerhouse, but she’s creative with the powers she has. She’s become one of the staples of the team when most people thought she was just a throwaway character when she was introduced. Bonus: Kitty Pride was the inspiration for Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Couldn’t you see Serge roundhouse kicking undead? I can.

Eric Maynor – Iceman
Young, brash, confident. Bobby Drake is one of the most underrated X-Men of all time. He’s extremely effective at controlling the battlefield, putting people where he wants them and setting them up for some awesome alley-oops. Er, yeah. You get it.

Etan Thomas – Beast
An intellectual, but fierce in the heat of battle. Charming, witty, but not someone you want to make angry. Can knock out Luis Scola without even trying.

Kevin Ollie – Bishop
Old and wise. Bishop spent a lot of time teaching the younger X-Men much in the same way Kevin is kind of a coach on the floor. Um, Kevin just needs a cool face tattoo now.

DJ White, Kyle Weaver, Byron Mullens, Mustafa Shakur – Generation X
Loaded with potential, but never quite given the chance to show what they can do. You can’t wait to see them on the big team, even for just a few minutes.

Scotty Brooks – Charles Xavier
Scotty runs the team as a respected peer. He’s been through everything they have, and can teach by example.

Sam Presti – Jack Kirby
The visionary. The architect. The brains behind everything. I know it’s kind of meta, but I think it’s an apt comparison.

Clay Bennett – Stan Lee
The man who made it all happen. Not everyone likes him, but you can’t deny his importance.

Tony Brothers – Mr. Sinister
LOL

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mikel
mikel 5pts

@Bob
says the guy with a thabo avatar.

Sonicsgate
Sonicsgate 5pts

being a fan is great!! enjoy http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5152875

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

@Sammy
Eh, call me naive, but I don't like comparing these guys to bad guys. I like the Beaubois choice though. He was almost a Thunder, but just not quite. And he's real fast.

And Steve Nash is in Alpha Flight. Like, Puck or something.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@Lefty
I always pictured Kobe as Doctor Doom. Zach Randolph as Juggernaut. Roddy Beaubois would make a good Quicksilver. Steph Curry as the Silver Surfer.

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

@Osano-Whoa
Yeah, mostly I was trying to stay as mainstream as possible with these. I mean, most people don't know Banshee or Strong Guy or Longshot, even though they are all definitely cool characters. I tried real hard to fit in Deadpool, but just wasn't able to make it fit...

I do love the Serge/Juggernaut comparison, but since he's mostly a villain, I didn't go that direction.

I mean, there are so many awesome X-Men and only so many Thunder players. Off the top of my head, here are some mutants I didn't use, that I probably should have: Rogue, Jean Grey, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Angel, Jubilee, Emma Frost, Psylocke, Mimic, Polaris, Havok, Sunfire, Thunderbird... heck, even Namor, Cloak and Dagger, Sabertooth have all been members of the team. But I had to cut it off somewhere. :P

While writing, I even started comparing other teams' players to characters from other Marvel teams. Dwyane Wade has to be Spider-Man. LeBron is Thor. Kobe is Iron-Man. The Dallas Mavericks are the Defenders (so many great players that never really amount to anything important). Maybe I should start my own blog. A Daily Thunder Spin-Off.

Osano-Whoa
Osano-Whoa 5pts

I'd like to say that I'm happy to have this article out there, because it opens the door for me to really let loose with the full on nerdiness for a future article about my love of the team.

Couple of characters I'd switch out.

Jeff Green - Longshot

Longshot isn't particularly powerful in anyway except that he has luck manipulation powers that he can't control, which allow things to just go his way when he needs them to. Just like green getting the incredible play at the end of the game. Saddly Green does not have a shoulder length blonde mullet.

Kevin Ollie - Banshee

To quote Wikipedia, "Banshee was always a decade older than most of the X-Men and had only a relatively short tenure as a full-time X-Man. He was, however, a mentor of the 1990s-era junior team Generation X." I mean seriously.

Serge Ibaka - Juggernaut

Hey, he was on the team for a while. Also, to quote Wikipedia again, "The Juggernaut is described as physically unstoppable once in motion, does not tire from physical activity and is able to survive without food, water or oxygen."

Nick Collison - Strong Guy

Alright this character technically was a member of X-Factor and not the X-Men, but as Collison is the only holdover from the old Sonic days I'm going to overlook that. Strong guy's powers allow him to absorb kinetic energy from things like being punched, or let's say taking a charge, and then use it to make himself stronger.

sas
sas 5pts

My only problem with the entire article is KD as Cyke. Mainly because I've always thought of Cyke as kind of a whiner who got the girl who was out of his league (really, tell me you weren't cheering for Logan to get with Jean. Tell me you weren't). KD is mr. hard work. I suppose, of course, the problem then comes with who KD would be. Marvel wise, I'd go with Cap'n America. Yeah, 'nuff said there.

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

Seriously, guys. Thanks for the positive feedback. I wrote this up mostly for myself, because I thought it would be a kind of fun thing to do, and I never really expected this response. Clearly there will be some disagreements about some of the comparisons I've drawn (I expected a lot of confusion about the Serge/Kitty thing), and that's kind of the point, I guess? It's a weird discussion to have on an NBA blog comments section, but so far, it's been cool. :)

@Lindsey
Next will be KD as Buffy, Russ as Xander and Scotty Brooks as Giles. I'm thinking, in this context, Serge is Oz.

@Frootloop
Not at the moment, I'll let you know. ;)

@donuteyes
I feel completely ashamed about this typo. One of the very first Trade Paperbacks I bought as a kid was the Dark Phoenix Saga (which I was able to get autographed by John Byrne), where Kitty was introduced (also, Dazzler!) and she's been one of my favorites ever since. I love the way Joss Whedon writes her in Astonishing X-Men. This is an inexcusable mistake on my part.

MastrMatt
MastrMatt 5pts

wow. I guess I'm the real nerd/outcast for not being into comics/D&D/etc. That's okay! I really liked the article. I read comics for about 5 min about 15 years ago. Not my thing, but hey ... totally cool if it is other folk's. Very well written.

I think I would buy a tshirt if one were made (HINT HINT), just because, if done right, would be BAD ASS.

Frootloop
Frootloop 5pts

Love the creativity! I imagine your Tuesday night D&D sessions are much fun. Need a Cleric?

Lindsey
Lindsey 5pts

I never thought a DT post would reference Buffy. Right on!

AD
AD 5pts

Westbrook as Wolverine is awesome... that has to made into a shirt. Fits perfectly.

I shall, from henceforth, call RW0... the Wolverine.

Osano-Whoa
Osano-Whoa 5pts

I'm going down to the fill up the ford ticket lottery, but I need somebody else to team up with. Any other solo DTers heading down there for this?

donuteyes
donuteyes 5pts

thabo as nightcrawler FTW

but serge as kitty pryde (with a "y", i am a nerd, after all)?

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

we so need a tshirt of this

Thunder tim
Thunder tim 5pts

Brilliant!

DJ
DJ 5pts

Great article Lefty. I was close to attending Pax East this year but plans fell through.

B
B 5pts

justin :
This is the best article ever written on this site or anywhere.

I second that. My inner nerd just got unleashed through your words. I, for one, would love to see Chewblocka roundhouse some undead! As for Ollie's face tattoo, all I could think of was that awesome 'stache. Does that technically count?

It's kind of funny that this article got posted today because I got to talk to Osano-Whoa a little bit before the Game 3 and we discussed briefly about how we're both really nerds at heart.

Kudos to you Lefty. This made my day!

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Yeah, I found it!

http://www.dailythunder.com/2009/06/tuesday-bolts-big-whiskey-edition/

Check out the page 1 comments. I get it started off with #39.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

Awesome. I have quibbles! But, awesome.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Last year, before we drafted James, we had Green pegged as Gambit. Mostly because Gambit seems to be overlooked and forgotten, but then when you take a second look you're reminded that he actually does a heck of a lot after all.

James is a much better Gambit though.

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

Lefty :J.G. True story: Dazzler once beat Dr Doom single-handedly. She’s awesome.
And, I promise I wrote this before the HP article.

So just like Krstic, Dazzler is capable of surprising feats, but the majority of the time you're left a little deflated, only hoping that you might see something...dazzling?

Yeah, I've never thought of the Jazz as an X-Men type of group. More like the more muted and straight-forward Fantastic Four...not that I think about comparing other players or teams to superheroes either...

Lucho
Lucho 5pts

I really enjoyed this article. Good Job.

KT
KT 5pts

Hey a nerd like me sweet!

Boots
Boots 5pts

@J.G.
Etan = Beast was my favorite as well

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

J.G. True story: Dazzler once beat Dr Doom single-handedly. She's awesome.

And, I promise I wrote this before the HP article.

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

Lefty, I'm going to have to say that I'm a bit troubled with the Krstic = Colossus comparison. Sure, I understand the Siberian connection and the size aspect along with the fastball special, but due to the inability to withstand any force in the paint and him being an especially "soft" big, I'm going to have to ask, don't you think Dazzler is a more complete comparison to Krstic?

All she can do is really dazzle you from distance with light bouncing around her head. And when it comes down to it, the closer she gets the less effective she is?

And other than Serge Ibaka (I thought for sure you'd make him Cannonball due to him being the first true "graduate" to develop to the first team, the obvious soaring/personal force field ability), I have to say, very well played. :)

I thought Etan Thomas as Beast was especially inspired.

Oh, and Sam Presti = Forge if we're going to continue making the front office into heroes. Not that I've ever thought of any of this stuff either...

Boots
Boots 5pts

You had me hooked on this article at Dungeons and Dragons

dork
dork 5pts

@justin

due to russ being wolverine .. i belive sabertooth would be... Dwill since they were evil enough to steal a game with a noncall :P

justin
justin 5pts

Pau Gasol is Sabertooth.

justin
justin 5pts

Is Phil Jackson Magneto?

Bob
Bob 5pts

justin :
This is the best article ever written on this site or anywhere.

He mentioned Jeff Green... think again.

justin
justin 5pts

This is the best article ever written on this site or anywhere.

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