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The Thunderdome is hazardous to your health

by J.G. Marking on April 23, 2010 at 1:55 pm 69 Comments

 

109 Decibels.

I couldn’t even wrap my head around that number last night, though my pounding head and bewildered state might have something to do with my throbbing ears for exactly the thing I was trying to comprehend.

That being said, I think we all have a pretty good idea what the moment was when the Ford Center officially became the deafening Thunderdome, breaking the record for the loudest playoff crowd ever at 109 Decibels (per Craig Sager, but I can’t find any citeable information to back this up), crushing the previous record of 102 at Arco Arena.

The  decibel meter started to inch towards the redline with Westbrook’s eye-popping, hand-over-mouth, “Did I just see that?” dunk over Lamar Odom. Then Harden’s open-floor three pointer to pull the Thunder within three points after trailing the entire game pushed the needle past the edge of the meter’s measurable limit.

And then KD hit that three. The needle shot to the right and stopped–the decibel meter could not move any farther. I honestly thought it was broken at that point. Or at least stuck because it was never meant to go that far.

But the noise just kept growing and growing, the eruption was a crescendo of excitement, nerves, disbelief and pure joy that was quite literally a painfully exuberant moment to experience.

Painful? Absolutely. My ears are still feeling it a day later. Which got me thinking, how loud is 109 Decibels?

According to the NIOSH and the CDC, 2002, the permissible amount of time that an individual can be exposed to 109 Decibels without suffering significant, permanent hearing loss is 1.875 minutes, or 1 minute and 52 and a half seconds.

Now obviously (and thankfully for those of us wishing to maintain our hearing), that record breaking reading was not sustained and didn’t last for very long at its apex. But the sheer fact that the Thunderdome was able to reach that sheer volume of noise is nothing short of remarkable, if not a little awesomely scary, as the information below will show you.

Dangerous Decibel Levels:

80 Decibels – Garbage Disposal, Freight Train — Possible Hearing Damage

90 Decibels – Diesel Truck, Food Blender — Hearing Damage (8 hours)

100 Decibels – Jet Takeoff (at 305 meters), Lawn Mower, Motorcycle, Tractor, Jackhammer — Serious Hearing Damage (8 hours)

110 Decibels – Chain Saw, Steel Mill, Riveting, Auto Horn — Human Pain Threshold

Yes, you read that correctly. Human Pain Threshold = 110 Decibels for ANY length of exposure. And the Thunderdome was within 1 Decibel of that last night. No amplifiers, no intricate sound systems pumping supplemental rock music, just 18,342 screaming, crazy, electric fans. Which means that it is time to add this to the list of Dangerous Decibel Levels…

109 Decibels – The Thunderdome, OKC — Opponent Intimidation Threshold

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Vam
Vam 5pts

Thats insane in the membrane..... sincerely Vam C

ALEC
ALEC 5pts

109 decibles was the highest the thing could go, the machine broke. im sure it was higher than 109, on saturday theu said we broke the last meter

OKCChuck
OKCChuck 5pts

I was in 303.. top row.. and it was just insane.. I'll never forget. the late 4th qtr chant of "Beat LA." The lakers were huddled closer during that chant because i'm sure they couldn't hear.

Laker reporter on twitter said "I'm sitting courtside and i'm having trouble hearing any whistles."

Alex
Alex 5pts

Actually, ARCO Arena reached 130 decibels during a regular season game in 2006 against the Pistons. That was when Guiness World Records was in town.

You dont even want to know the amount of decibels when they were playing the Lakers in 2002.

gus
gus 5pts

yeah and plus look at sacramento now they blow and seattle lost there team cause the fans wouldnt show up point is the thunder is the future of the Nba and know how to create a true home court advantage

donuteyes
donuteyes 5pts

last night's game was the first time i've seen my daughter interested in a sporting event of any kind. she won't even feign interest as a rule, but last night she was completely invested. that was easily my favourite part...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@AM
lol, ok, sounds like an enjoyable experience,lol.

big teddy
big teddy 5pts

lmao no man its called being a fan with a common interest and a strong bond united by a drunk guy spittin and hittin us with is pom pom hahaha

AM
AM 5pts

@f5alcon
No. I'm already married. Just a BBall question.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

big teddy :
The pretty lady that was gettin hit with the pom pom?

AM :@big
teddy
Yes, that’s me. I have a quick question for you. Will you please e-mail me? golf1pro@yahoo.com Thanks.

DT love connection, ;)

AM
AM 5pts

@big teddy

Yes, that's me. :) I have a quick question for you. Will you please e-mail me? golf1pro@yahoo.com Thanks.

AD
AD 5pts

For those interested...

Royce on the Basketball Jones episode 556 at about the 22:40 mark.

big teddy
big teddy 5pts

The pretty lady that was gettin hit with the pom pom?

AM
AM 5pts

@Anonymous
Too cool. I was sitting next to you on your left!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

Jax Raging Bile Duct :

Now SCREEEEAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!

i did and now everybody is looking at me weird

big teddy
big teddy 5pts

lol yea i was in 225

AM
AM 5pts

@Big Teddy
Big Teddy, were you sitting in Club level?

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Ha! 90 minutes later I come back and find that this topic has people all in a frenzy.

Who cares about who has how many decibels when and where. Past a certain point it's all the same. It was really loud, and people had fun.

Now SCREEEEAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!

Big Teddy
Big Teddy 5pts

If anyone has an insider subscription i could borrow email me...tromeo143@yahoo.com

slimjimzv
slimjimzv 5pts

I lived in Sacramento from 1998 - 2002 and got to watch many of those regular season games against Utah that went to overtime. VERY noisy place. I wish I could have been in the Ford Center yesterday to give a comparison :)

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

Royce Young :I think people are misunderstanding Sager. He says, “I remember once at Arco I got 102, but I got 109 tonight.” The only record he mentions is one for the Ford Center. So he was just referring to games he’s been too, not the entire NBA record book.
Besides, who cares? The point is, it was LOUD.

So at least one individual got the gist of it...sheesh, never quoting Craig Sager again.

Unless it's about a record, of course--wait, ah, nevermind.

j-mo
j-mo 5pts

MARK SCOTT :YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK WIKIPEDIA IT IS CLEARLY NOT CORRECT WE WERE NOT EVEN CLOSE. 114 GAME 2 OF 2005 NBA FINALS SAN ANTONIO VS DETROIT. CHECK YOU FACTS BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN PRINT. TELL CRAIG HE IS AN IDOT!!!

Ok....an "IDOT" who is the IDIOT now? just kdding... relax and enjoy the atmosphere of a great playoff series.

J.G.
J.G. 5pts

@MARK SCOTT
And the citation of that information on Wikipedia was...

Exactly. Though I love the irony of you screaming for people to check the facts before posting information.

I also loved the "fatal 120 decibels" part of the Wikipedia comment for that game, you know, since every human instantly falls over dead at 120 Decibels.

@Omar
Hmmm, I also didn't catch that...selective hearing from us all maybe? :)

@Mark!
Haha! Nicely done.

Royce Young
Royce Young 5pts

I think people are misunderstanding Sager. He says, "I remember once at Arco I got 102, but I got 109 tonight." The only record he mentions is one for the Ford Center. So he was just referring to games he's been too, not the entire NBA record book.

Besides, who cares? The point is, it was LOUD.

justin
justin 5pts

I didn't hear that at first. A record for the Ford Center makes a lot more sense...

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

@Omar

I heard that too. Curious :P

@MARK SCOTT

If it's on Wikipedia, it must be true.

Big Teddy
Big Teddy 5pts

Hey who really cares if it is a record or not. The great thing is the buzz and respect it has created. So record or no record the place was approaching lunacy! And I am shocked that no one has mentioned the unity shown. EVERY player was wearing KDs. The whole starting lineup was wearing the all whites with the Orange check except Thabo but he was wearin black white and orange KD II. Talk about a college feel...When is the last time at an NBA game you saw that? Plus WE (yes I was there) Stood the ENTIRE 4th. Thru timeouts free throws etc. It was absolutely AMAZING

Danny
Danny 5pts

@MARK SCOTT
Why are you such a hater? Remove caps and be polite, please.

Omar
Omar 5pts

Am I the only one that realizes that Craig said it was a record for the ford center only? MAYBE I SHOULD WRITE IT IN CAPS!?!?!

MARK SCOTT
MARK SCOTT 5pts

YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK WIKIPEDIA IT IS CLEARLY NOT CORRECT WE WERE NOT EVEN CLOSE. 114 GAME 2 OF 2005 NBA FINALS SAN ANTONIO VS DETROIT. CHECK YOU FACTS BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN PRINT. TELL CRAIG HE IS AN IDOT!!!

The DON
The DON 5pts

@f5alcon

I don't think Craig Sager has the mental capacity to remember anything beyond the last 2 to 3 hours of his life

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@The DON
yeah i mean it could just be games they did, or craig sager remembered,lol.

MastrMatt
MastrMatt 5pts

@f5alcon

Duh. There are 80k+ people there. That I am comparing those crowds to last night just shows how awesome last night was.

The DON
The DON 5pts

@f5alcon

Hmmm, well they're definitely incorrect. That image is etched into my brain forever when the decibel meter in the Key Arena hit 121 in the 96 finals. They said it was like an equivalent of a jet taking off or something

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@The DON
i think it came from tnt

Omar
Omar 5pts

Screw Arco. They had cowbells, thats cheating.

The DON
The DON 5pts

I don't know where the "109 is a record" thing came from because I will never forget the 96 NBA finals in Seattle where they showed the decibel meter and it went up to 121.....yes, 121

I will never forget it, it was as if it happened yesterday

justin
justin 5pts

@J.G. Marking

Yeah.. I don't want to take away from the energy the fans brought because it clearly fueled some of the players (Westbrook notably). I just can't believe it's the loudest ever in a playoff game. Doesn't seem plausible considering all the games that have been played in smaller arenas..

They were definitely much louder than I anticipated.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

it is only spiking that loud, 110 decibals for a few seconds wont do any real damage, you will have that slighlt pain of too loud, but we are not going to have permanent hearing loss or anything. Enough people read this site though i think we will be louder next game.

J.G. Marking
J.G. Marking 5pts

@justin
Pregame would not count for "during a playoff game."

That's about the only thing I can think of since the actual decibel level was not reached during a game but in an attempt to reach a loud decibel level prior to tipoff (not sure if the cowbells would be a factor either).

But it looks like only Craig Sager and the TNT production team knows for sure...

Though I'm beginning to think the actual point of the article is being lost with the record confusion. Haha.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

If I recall, the Key also hit 110+ with regularity, also likely due to the size/acoutstics.

justin
justin 5pts

ARCO is so small, I think that's part of the reason they get so loud.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@justin
i guess we have some work cut out for us next game then.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

Doing a search for "arco arena guiness record" reveals a lot of people citing the 130dB, but it's the internet, so who knows.

justin
justin 5pts

Here's just one citation of a higher decibel level at ARCO (before tipoff no less):

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/may/19/sports/sp-lakers19/3

"112 - Decibels of crowd noise before tipoff"

billyadams
billyadams 5pts

@f5alcon
True, but also remember that football games don't actually reach the decibel levels we're talking about because they are outdoors (the college ones anyway). No echoes to enhance the loudness. At one point last night, I swear it sounded like we were in a high school gym the amount of echo we were getting. It was unreal.

justin
justin 5pts

@MastrMatt

I was not at either game but it's hard for me to believe this was louder than ARCO got in the semi finals and such.. there has to be a way to verify this, ARCO's decibel level was heavily publicized at the time.

RH
RH 5pts

I'm pretty sure my ears didn't hurt because I was yelling so loud my head was throbbing, which distracted me from whatever what happening to my ears. I had to get a bottle of water in the 4th because after all of the screaming and jumping, I felt like I was going to pass out.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

we should all just get megaphones like the dude in the wrestling mask has during opponents free throws.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Maybe we should send a quick inquiry to the caretakers of Cowbell Kingdom and see if they know where to look.

I've sat on the floor seats before as well as in loud city, but I spend most of my time in the club level seats. The higher you go in that arena, the louder it gets. Something about the acoustics of the building. If it's 109 decibels on the court, it has to be louder upstairs. They need to do 2 readings at the same time, court level and loud city level.

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