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Thunder opens big on small-ball

by Michael Kimball on October 28, 2010 at 1:35 pm 45 Comments

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So Nick Collison’s replacement in the rotation while he’s out with an injury is … Daequan Cook?

That was the case Wednesday at least on opening night, and I doubt the rotation is anywhere close to set, Collison or no Collison, this early in the year. But Scott Brooks’ decision to go with Cook off the bench was significant for a number of reasons.

The Thunder played 14:51 minutes of small-ball in the 106-95 win against the Bulls by my unofficial count. The Thunder was +6 on the scoreboard in that time span. Perhaps more significantly, Oklahoma City played 8:01 of that small-ball with Kevin Durant in the game at power forward and was +10.

The small-ball came in two spurts bridging the quarters in each half. Cook replaced Jeff Green at the 2:03 mark of the first quarter with the Bulls up 25-23. The Thunder had a lineup of Eric Maynor, Cook, James Harden, Durant and Serge Ibaka. Green subbed for Durant with the Thunder up by six about three minutes into the second quarter, and Westbrook eventually replaced Maynor before Oklahoma City went to a more traditional lineup with 5:58 left in the half. The Thunder had a 43-42 lead for a net gain of three points in about eight minutes of small-ball.

The next small-ball shift began with Cook again subbing for Green with 3:17 left in the third quarter and Chicago up 74-72. The Thunder went back to a more traditional lineup with 8:33 left in the game and a 86-85 lead. The overall +6 could have been even better if Cook knocked down a 3-pointer or two, but he was 0-4 on the night.

That is a solid, if unspectacular, performance in the 2010-11 season’s first game for the small-ball unit. But was this part of a larger plan to work in small-ball, or even just Durant at the four, or just a byproduct of Brooks’ steadfast adherence to the nine-man rotation and Cook as his choice as the temporary ninth man? Either answer could have different implications. A tactical decision based on the Thunder staff’s plan to attack the Bulls — a little thin on dependable size with Carlos Boozer injured — would be a less noteworthy explanation.

If the grand plan is to work in more small-ball but Brooks sticks to a nine-man rotation when Collison comes back, that means either Westbrook or Thabo Sefolosha will see more time in the small-ball unit. That didn’t fit with the substitution patterns Books used Wednesday. Most of the small-ball took place during Westbrook’s designated rest period, and all of it came with Thabo Sefolosha on the bench. One of them has to be the third guard with Maynor and Harden if Cook becomes the 10th guy again and never takes off his warm-ups once Collison comes back.

Cook could also be in the cards even with Collison back if Brooks breaks the nine-man rotation and deploys Cook as a small-ball guy. I’d vote for that. Or he could have been playing because Brooks needed one, and only one, player to take Collison’s minutes while he’s out, and he chose Cook.

Why not Cole Aldrich? Or even D.J. White, the only other post player who dressed? Does that mean anything?

It seems notable that with Collison out, Brooks didn’t go to any other big man on his bench. Byron Mullens was in a suit. Aldrich only got out onto the court to do the traditional opening night pre-game address to the crowd by the prominent rookie. White got no chance to loft his silky jumper.

But it’s also notable that Ibaka’s debut as a rookie last season was a three-minute stint in the second game of the season, then sat for four straight games and didn’t become a significant part of the rotation until late November and early December. Ibaka was pivotal enough to be on the floor (and miss a box out, unfortunately) in the Thunder’s most important minutes of the season in the waning moments of Game 6 against the Lakers, and he was a more unknown variable than Aldrich by far at this point last year.

It should be said over and over again for this and ever other issue of any concern that came out of Wednesday’s win: It’s only one game. There are 81 more. Most reactions are overreactions. But the Thunder’s 15-minute small-ball experiment against the Bulls leaves lots to ponder.

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okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Cook was not the reason we were in the positive. And if Boozer was playing he definitely shouldnt have been in.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

@DizzyDai
^^^ Nevermind. I was thinking about the wrong draft class.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

That's right Love hasn't received an extension either. Silly move Minny.

NOVAthunder
NOVAthunder 5pts

nba trade machine says that we can trade nick collison for kevin love straight up... think kahn would go for that, they get more "cap space" with the expiring contract to sign ricky rubio. lol

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@justin
I was removing d-rebounding from the equation for now since we all know Love crushes Green on the glass. Looking at it purely from a keeping-players-from-making-shots perspective, I don't see how you could rate Love as a better defender than Green.

justin
justin 5pts

Love has an advantage defensively over Green simply from a defensive rebounding standpoint, IMO.

Greg
Greg 5pts

@Sammy
Love is miles behind Collison on the defensive end right now, which is why I said "at some point". Sorry for the confusion.

@Crow
Now that's funny.

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Greg

The way they do jump balls there is little incentive. If you don't get the opening tip, I believe you get the ball to start the second half.

ThunderHorn
ThunderHorn 5pts

Cook's form looks odd in that pic.

Crow
Crow 5pts

There is a psychologist / stat guy who is about to sign with an NBA team. Not sure which it is yet, but Minny is one of the 5 best candidates.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@Greg
No, Love cannot defend like Collison. I hate, btw, the comparison of any white PF to Collison. Collison is a unique player and a great defensive player. His defensive bball iq is off the charts.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Maybe he should have been a bit tighter on Beasley too. But with him they may be trying a different approach- let's go light. It may or may not work, it may or may not last.

Greg
Greg 5pts

"It looks like Nenad Krstic is manning center for the jump ball this year. Last year, Jeff Green did most, if not all, of the opening tips. I never quite understood why that was. But I know that I like Krstic there better. He’s the center. He’s a 7-footer. He should be jumping center."

If anyone other than the center should be doing jump balls, why not the 7'5" wingspanned Kevin Durant?

Crow
Crow 5pts

For that first game Tolliver pulled a PER25, Love PER 11. He had the second best +/-, Love middle of the pack and slightly negative. I don't mind that move this time by Rambis.

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Greg

Al Jefferson for Koufos, 2 protected 1st rounders and lots of cap space... how good that is depends on where you are and your plan. I don't really dislike it, given where they were.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Tolliver had a better game than Love in many ways. He is going to get 20 something minutes. Love will have to be on more all-around to get over 30.

Greg
Greg 5pts

@Sammy
But Love can hold his own against those PFs, better than Green, was my point. He's not a great defender, but could he not defend anywhere close to Collison at some point (in this system)? It's not as if Love is limited athletically.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Minny, to my outsider's view, has never anointed Love the way some teams do. Their relatively tough love might have been taken too far at times and could bite them in the end but I understand they want him to work hard on defense and not just rebounding and scoring. I have sometimes wondered if they might be trying to be keeping his price down some too or trying to have more injuries.

It is a long season. Shouldn't freak out too much. Do what you need to get the coach off your back.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

get love cheap now with this little rift forming up north.

I wouldnt be surprised if we see aldrich or others play against the pistons in a blowout situation.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

FWIW, I think Kahn fires Rambis before he jettisons Love for peanuts.

@Greg
That list of PFs destroys both Love and Green so I don't know that how you give Love the advantage there.

Greg
Greg 5pts

Andrewonipod :I still think love is a pipe dream. I don’t know what we would trade for him…

Kahn wasn't compensated very well for trading Jefferson. Something like Jeff Green/Collison and Mo Pete's expiring deals/Clips' 1st rounder/OKC 2nd rounder would probably be enough for Kahn.

But who is more to blame with this Love situation? Is it not moreso Rambis, rather than Kahn? How does your best player player 23 minutes?

Greg
Greg 5pts

@Sammy
Well of course Green can handle stretch 4's better than Love, I certainly was not trying to make that point.

But to me it seems like, especially in the West, we run into more traditional power forwards (Gasol, West, Scola, Z-Bo, Love, Landry/Cousins, Duncan, Milsap/Jefferson, and now David Lee AND Blake Griffin), all of which abuse Green on a nightly basis when we face those teams. The West is stacked with PFs who can score and rebound the ball very well.

Lefty
Lefty 5pts

Kahn is just the worst.

I generally try to remain pretty positive about things (especially sports related things, since it is a game, after all), but this is starting to get indefensible. If you're Kahn, and you're a worthwhile GM, you have to step in and tell them to play him. Gah...

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@Anonymous
Noah got an extension. But, yeah, I'da been really really disappointed if JG got one when even Al Horford didn't.

Andrewonipod
Andrewonipod 5pts

I still think love is a pipe dream. I don't know what we would trade for him...

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@Greg
That's going a bit far to suggest Love would be a better defensive 4 than Green. Green handles stretch 4s pretty well and is quite good when switched on to perimeter guys. Don't think you could say the same for Love.

But anyway, yeah, Love would be a huge upgrade overall.

Greg
Greg 5pts

@Andrewonipod
I think it would be superbly effective. If this staff thinks trotting out Ibaka at center with Green at PF is a good idea, Love-Ibaka blows that out of the water. SO many of our problems would be fixed with Love: rebounding, floor spacing, passing, 3-pt shooting, offensive efficiency. Not to mention our defense would be EVEN better, as Love is an upgrade defensively at the 4-spot over JG.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@justin
Surprised you didn't hear about it. Yeah, Love played 9 minutes in the second half.

Canis Hoopus has an interesting illustration.

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

@Mark!

Love also left the locker room before reporters were allowed in after the game.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Andrewonipod
Andrewonipod 5pts

Do we think love/ibaka could be an effective starting frontcourt?

Greg
Greg 5pts

justin :@Greg
I checked the boxscore because I didn’t believe you and it made me laugh. Can’t believe the Wolves.

Needless to say, I'm not too thrilled about my decision to keep Love over Blake Griffin in fantasy.

justin
justin 5pts

@Anonymous

Thanks, Sam Presti. Maybe this lights a fire under Green's ass, too.

justin
justin 5pts

@Greg

I checked the boxscore because I didn't believe you and it made me laugh. Can't believe the Wolves.

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

http://tinyurl.com/2afo945

"Who's arguing that?" Rambis said afterward when asked a question about why arguably his best player watched most of the fourth quarter and didn't have a point or rebound in the second half after reaching a double-double (11 points, 10 rebounds) by halftime.

A reporter replied that he was.

"That's your opinion," he said. "I thought Anthony was doing the things defensively that we need. It was nothing against Kevin. I thought A.T. was doing a good job. I thought that he was moving his feet well. He challenged shots. He blocked shots.

"Rather than turning it into a derogatory thing with Kevin, it's a complimentary thing toward A.T."

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@Elegy444
You got a text? From whom?

Greg
Greg 5pts

I think we should all say a prayer that the Wolves blow up and trade K-Love just as they did Big Al. Anthony Tolliver - that's right, Anthony Tolliver! - logged 28 minutes in last night's game, to Love's 24. Rambis' reasoning was that he liked Tolliver's defense, even though down the stretch Landry and Cousins abused the T-Wolves frontline in route to a victory.

Someone has to be taken out of the equation in Minnesota, either Rambis or Love. Knowing Kahn, I'm guessing he'll either let this play out and continue with the drama, or he'll trade K-Love. In that case, pounce Presti. Pounce.

Elegy444
Elegy444 5pts

Just got a text that said Presti confirmed that negotiations had ended with Jeff Green.

justin
justin 5pts

@Mark!

Oops! Forgot about that. I guess Detroit's gotta justify C. Villanueva's salary :)

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

justin :
Cole Aldrich is the highest drafted player this season to get a DNP-CD in his team’s first game.

Didn't Monroe get a DNP-CD too?

justin
justin 5pts

Cole Aldrich is the highest drafted player this season to get a DNP-CD in his team's first game.

justin
justin 5pts

I really doubt these lineups will be good performers consistently unless D. Cook get back to shooting 40% 3PT.

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