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Sam Presti is taking and making some calls – what for?

by Royce Young on December 23, 2010 at 4:41 pm 91 Comments

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At any moment, Sam Presti could strike. He’s one of the best general managers out there at keeping everything under his hat until it happens.

But it’s starting to get to be that time of the season where NBA GMs are calling each other daily to see what’s going on. And I don’t mean that they’re just checking in and saying “Merry Christmas.” Presti is no exception, as he told HoopsWorld:

“About this time of year this start to pick up, and I’m sure we’ll take our fair share of calls and make our fair share of calls,” Presti Tells HOOPSWORLD. “That said, the group that we have is one that we see working together, growing together, and continuing to learn together. We understand that we’re still a work in progress, and the areas where we’re trying to improve as a team – being more defensive-minded, being a team that moves the ball and plays for the pass, a team that brings energy every single night – those are areas that we still want to see growth in. We’re confident that our guys are going to keep working. We’ve got an excellent focus on the practice floor led by Scott, and we’ll look for our development and our progress to come internally.”

So, let me say aloud what we’re all thinking: Who could Presti be offering up or going after? What exactly could the Thunder be in the market for?

Most of you just shouted “BIG MAN!” at your computer screen, but that might not be it. I’m speculating, but something tells me that could be what Presti has on the block.

Let me toss this one out there: Orlando is after a veteran backup big man to replace Marcin Gortat and help solidify their front line with Dwight Howard. They’d prefer to trade Quentin Richardson or Chris Duhon. But those two might not get back what the Magic are wanting. So they may be forced to dangle J.J. Redick out there, who will require better offers. Obviously the Magic want to keep Redick, but with Jason Richardson coming in, Redick’s playing time might be squeezed a bit and therefore making him more expendable. Plus, Gilbert Arenas is playing a decent amount off the ball as well.

I’m not saying that’s a real possibility by any means, but OKC certainly would have a good big man in Nenad Krstic to offer. To get the salary stuff to line up it might take some wiggling, but the Thunder could do it. Again, it’s probably not happening, but a player like Redick would fit in well in OKC’s backcourt. As much as Scott Brooks likes to go small, I don’t think playing time would become an issue with James Harden and Thabo Sefolosha.

But [Presti's] going to make and take some calls. If he gets a deal together that makes sense, he's not going to be afraid to pull the trigger though. He kind of knows what he's doing. The lesson, as always: Just let Sam Presti be the GM. He's pretty dang good at it.

Now let me talk myself out of it: At the same time though with the way Harden is playing right now, I’d hate to do anything that upset his current rhythm. If anything, Harden needs more playing time and the Thunder shouldn’t do anything that would cut into that. So unless there was a way to fit in a player like Redick to the rotation, the deal doesn’t do OKC any good. But I think the Thunder needs a floor-spacer like Redick, seeing as the Thunder’s the second worst 3-point shooting team in the league. Really, just someone that can make a consistent 3. Kevin Durant is that, Harden is decent and Jeff Green sometimes has it, but OKC could use a player that requires attention around the 3-point line.

However, acquiring a player like Redick who has multiple years on his deal means the Thunder’s not a major player in the free agent market next summer, especially if they want to extend a qualifying offer to Jeff Green. Complicated, this stuff is.

Of course there’s the other thing where Presti uses an expiring contract to make a move for a future asset or young player. Like Morris Peterson, who has a $6.2 million expiring deal. But Krstic is a very good trade-able piece. Would OKC trade Krstic right now? I doubt it, although he does have a nice $5.5 million expiring deal.

Here’s the thing about trading Krstic: He would be totally expendable if either Cole Aldrich or Byron Mullens had shown any kind of sign that they’re ready to handle more responsibility. But I don’t think either one is there yet. And Serge Ibaka isn’t the answer at center while we wait for one of those to get there.

But at the same time, moving Krstic would clear a bit of the big man log jam the Thunder has right now. Long-term, it’s just not happening that OKC keeps Krstic, Mullens and Aldrich. Not with Serge Ibaka and Nick Collison already part of the future inside plan. The Thunder would love for Aldrich (or Mullens) to have a shot at more substantial playing time, but they aren’t going to give them that at the expense of the team.

I honestly don’t think OKC is going to make much noise in the trade market over the next two months. I think Presti wants to see where the current roster goes before taking in anything long-term or giving up good assets. Like he said, Presti’s focused more on internal development than going outside to grab a player like J.J. Redick or another big man. But he’s going to make and take some calls. If he gets a deal together that makes sense, he’s not going to be afraid to pull the trigger though. He kind of knows what he’s doing.

The lesson, as always: Just let Sam Presti be the GM. He’s pretty dang good at it.

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lilrip133
lilrip133 5pts

I agree very much with Justin. We've seen what Cook has (or hasn't) done for us. Q Rich is of the same mold with a long contract.
I'd like to see Hamilton come to town, but with what it would take to get him, coupled with the fact that he's greatest coming off a series of screens, which our offense has none of for anybody not named Durant, makes it not at all worth going after him.

Dan2
Dan2 5pts

Thabo, peterson, pick to, but its still hard to make the money work.

Dan2
Dan2 5pts

Rip Hamilton anyone? Too bad our SG position is already taken care of, he is a guy that wouldn't be a made person to replace Thabo with, Harden could learn from him and he doesn't play bad defense, is shooting 42% from 3. Thabo +pick for Hamilton, eating his contract is the hard part though.

Zed
Zed 5pts

BIG MAN!

.. that was fun

Jared M
Jared M 5pts

Hmm.. A top five pick... Jeff Green...White...Krstic.. but take on a crappy contract of theirs. So I am thinking it would be pretty impossible.. if we wanted Thabeet we could get him pretty easily.

Booya
Booya 5pts

This may have already been brought up but....What would it take to get Marc Gasol? Or is he even on our radar?

justin
justin 5pts

Why would we want Quentin Richardson? He's not that great a shooter, and it's all he does these days. He's got a long term (albeit cheap) contract that probably will pay him well beyond his usefulness.

The same reasons I wouldn't want Richardson are the same reasons I didn't see any use for Daeguon Cook. No minutes.

I like Ryan Anderson and I think we could get him if we are able to fill Orlando's holes. Not sure they'd be interested in Krstic, but it's possible.

When you consider the minutes our players are receiving in the backcourt and of course KD, there's no place for another shooter to get minutes unless it's in the front court. Jeff Green is supposed to be solving this problem for us but he hasn't. Someone like Anderson or Murphy could steal some minutes in the front court and help out.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DizzyDai
with a shallow draft i have a hard time seeing any of the worst teams wanting 3 picks vs 1 good one, especially if 2 of them are in the 20s. But we could probably get that orlando pick instead of the nets getting it if we offered a future pick, maybe the clippers 1st rounder and we get the nets 2nd rd pick as well.

yeah that simple one i like better and it would save orlando a lot of money because they are paying tax so it would save them even more money

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

With 3 1st rounders I was hope we could move up.

How about something a little more simple.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2blyraf

Cook and Krstic to Orlando

Richardson and Anderson to OKC

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

q rich has a cheap contract, could always re trade him

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DizzyDai
we could extend murphy if we felt he was valuable. id use q rich to backup durant, and thats the only mins he normally gets. this draft class is really weak, so lots of picks this year not really as good, especially a late 20s from orlando. but we could defer them i guess

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

@f5alcon

Not quite what I was hoping for. If we are esentially letting Green and Krstic go to rent Murphy I'd want as many picks as possible. Q-Rich would be nice, but our backcourt is kinda packed already.

dj
dj 5pts

The ttade I'd like to see concerns playing time... we swap all of Krstic's minutes for Aldrich & Mullens minutes. Oh ya, we're doing that. Good.
Don't know why everyone thinks the Cavs will trade Varejao.

I also think the Melo trade needs to happen before a lot of other trades get seriously considered.

The guys most likely traded: Krstic, Peterson & Cook.

The guys least likely traded: Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden, Green, Maynor & Collison.

For Christmas I want this lineup...
Starters - Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, Aldrich
Rotation - Maynor, Green, Sefolosha, Collison

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

could make it a future 1st rd pick with protection, and give us a 2nd player.

something like this
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2cxlo3p

magic get krstic, cook, and our 2nd rd pick.
we get murphy, q rich, a top 7 protected 1st rd pick from the nets(they are in 7th now, adding those players could slide the pick to the 8-13 pick.
nets get green, reddick, jason williams orlandos 1st rd pick.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

@justin

True but we also gave up a 1st rounder for Thabo Sefolosha. Maybe they give up Dallas's 1st round pick instead. At that point, I'm not sure I'd be too interested in making that trade.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

Floppy Punch! :I don’t think we’ve fully considered cloning and time travel options.

I'd think genetic engineering would be the way to go. A hybrid Blake Griffin/Shaq/Reggie Miller would be the way to go.

Floppy Punch!
Floppy Punch! 5pts

I don't think we've fully considered cloning and time travel options.

justin
justin 5pts

@DizzyDai

Just to put that into perspective, Boston got Ray Allen for the #5 pick and spare parts. Jeff Green and JJ Redick won't get their pick. If New Jersey has any interest in Jeff Green they can just make him an offer in RFA...

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

@justin

I was more questionable about Orlando giving up a pick, but since they have a roster set swapping a 1st for a 2nd makes sense.

I thought Murphy had little or no value to NJ so trying to squeeze a 1st rounder out of them seemed plausible.

justin
justin 5pts

@DizzyDai

New Jersey wouldn't give up an unprotected first rounder for this deal.

DizzyDai
DizzyDai 5pts

This looks like a crappy trade in the trade machine...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2332ysg

but how about a three way trade between OKC, NJ, & Orlando?

OKC receives: Troy Murphy, New Jersey 1st Round Pick, and an Orlando 1st Round Pick.

NJ receives: Jeff Green & J.J. Reddick

Orlando receives: Nenad Krstic, Anthony Morrow, and possibly a 2nd round pick.

OKC wouldn't receive any long term fixes in this deal. Two 1st round pick would be nice compensation. Especially New Jersey's pick. After Murphy's contract expires we could explore resigning him for a cheaper deal and/or use the cap space to pursue a center in free agency.

New Jersey would get a starting SF and one of the league's best 3pt marksman. Jeff is not quite Carmelo, but I think he'd help NJ in the long run.

Orlando would get a decent back up center and a more contract-friendly 3pt shooter.

Ozark
Ozark 5pts

anonymous :@okc
baby
if there was a south beach of the mid usa, it would be chicago.

South Beach between the Coasts? That's Beavers Bend State Park in SE Oklahoma. Gawd I love that place. The redneck girls are pretty, too, at least until they turn 19 and the government surplus macaroni and peanut butter fatten them up.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Pretty much everybody on this site who think we can get past the first round with this team. But then again I dont expect people who except mediocre to believe in dreams anyway.

ricanthunder
ricanthunder 5pts

Oh goodness. Dreamers dreaming. Wrong website.

anonymous
anonymous 5pts

@okc baby

if there was a south beach of the mid usa, it would be chicago.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

yeah its far fetched. Thats why its a dream. Doesnt have to be a dwight. But OKC can be the South Beach of the mid usa

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

ok, but dwight isnt available for anybody not named kevin durant.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Maybe your used to mediocre but Iam trying to win a championship.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@okc baby
maybe if you throw in your soul

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

I can dream

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

and mullens and white if they ask

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

D howard for Green and Ibaka, +nonads

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Green or Ibaka? Legit big man. If I had a chance to get a legit big man. Hell yea, throw in krstic

Greg
Greg 5pts

@RicanThunder
Exactly.

RicanThunder
RicanThunder 5pts

I love when people make a line up that includes a big man that we traded for, that everyone automatically assumes that Green is still on the team. If we obtain a big man, Green will not be on the team. You can bank on that. He's the best tradeable asset we have, assuming he resigns with the team he is traded to.

william
william 5pts

@Justin line-up Westbrook-Harden-Durant-Ibaka-Varejao It amazing!!!
Back-up Maynor-Sefolosha-Green-Collinson-Aldrid

it dream come true!!!

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

We need a freakin legit big man

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Keith
he seems to play best player available rotations, but he should play actual positions or at least matchups where we are not overmatched

RicanThunder
RicanThunder 5pts

I'd take that horrible Blake Griffin contract off their hands. He's so injury prone.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Kenneth
With Kaman being injury prone and an obvious youth movement, the Clips would demand a team taking Jordan to also take a bad contract.

@f5alcon
But that pretty much sums it all up. We don't have that kind of coach. Brooks needs to force defense upon his players and then just play the smartest rotations he can (no more smallball). That's our best chance to really make noise in the playoffs without a coaching overhaul (which seems unlikely).

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Kenneth
his 44% ft is the only real downside.

Kenneth
Kenneth 5pts

What about trading for DeAndre Jordan, he can give you 15-15-3 on any given night especially if Blake wasn't the 1st option, he is young and going to get better in the paint. He is a devastating dunker and shot blocker, and he can rebound with the best of them.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Keith
maybe if we had an xs and os guy, but brooks has yet to show he can be more than a cheerleader

Keith
Keith 5pts

@f5alcon
True, but I think everyone watching our games can agree our offense is primarily talent, and systematically is worse than our guys make it look often. Last year we were an elite defensive team, and we have the pieces (outside of center) to be an elite defensive team going forward.

Ironically, I think Brooks and Rivers have a lot in common. Rivers was a bad coach before Allen/Garnett, and really was a bad coach with them (doing almost all he could to blow it in the playoffs circa 2008). But by having all that talent and focusing on defense, Rivers figured it out enough to put his guys in position to do their thing. When you have such a talented team, that's all you really need. Brooks isn't there yet, often putting the team in position to lose instead of win, but he could figure it out like Rivers did.

justin
justin 5pts

I don't think we can expect to get the same kind of FTA in the playoffs...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Keith
we are 9th in offensive rating and 18th in defensive. much closer to being elite on offense.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@justin
I think we have a better chance of being an elite defensive team than offensive team with current system/coaching. I think trying to be like Boston would be a great idea.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@justin
maybe if pleiss develops more than expected we will have a post scorer

justin
justin 5pts

Of course, it'd be great to have a low post guy to dump the ball into. Just not optimistic we'll be getting that.

justin
justin 5pts

@Keith

I don't think it really matters in the scheme of things. All good teams have to be able to hit jump shots. As long as you can do what you do efficiently. The rate at which the team gets to the line can offset droughts.

I think we should be looking to build the team similar to the Mavericks of 2005. They were a jump shooting team as well, and the best offense in the league. I think our team can be a top five offense if Harden starts and we run more pick and rolls / get better finishers and screen setters in the front court. At the rate we get to the line and make free throws...

With the coaching we have I'm not optimistic these things will happen but I believe the personnel is close to where the offense can be successful.

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