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Friday Bolts – 1.21.11

by Royce Young on January 21, 2011 at 11:15 am 65 Comments

Clipper GM Neil Olshey on keeping Blake Griffin: “I can guarantee you he will only ever be a Clipper. If [Oklahoma City Thunder general manager] Sam Presti arrived on Kevin Durant’s doorstep at midnight on July 1st with an extension, understand that Blake Griffin lives two blocks away from me in Manhattan Beach so it’s going to be a much shorter commute for me.”

Lang Greene of HoopsWorld looking at the go-to guys of the future: “Kevin Durant is the man in Oklahoma City. Period. However, it was Westbrook who unexpectedly stole some of Durant’s early season MVP when the forward got off to a slow start due to injury. Whether it’s been points, rebounds, assists or field goal percentage, you name it and Westbrook has improved in that category this season. If his game continues to develop at this pace there’s no reason not to believe he could be some franchise’s centerpiece. For now, he’s Durant’s sidekick.”

James Polling of the Daily O’Collegian: “It’s no surprise that those teams are also four of the best in the NBA in terms of defense. Three of Kevin Durant’s five lowest scoring games this season came against those teams. When Durant is being kept in check, the Thunder has no chance against the Lakers and Spurs in the playoffs. So, what can the Thunder do to play better defense? First, the team should not expect to fully reach the level of defense they played last season. The fast paced offense the Thunder has played this season allows opponents to get occasional quick baskets in transition.”

The Thunder will be drafting in the lower half of the first round, so who are some sleepers?

Western Conference forwards in chart form.

Sure you saw it, but Bill Simmons wrote about All-Star candidates yesterday and he gave OKC’s fastbreak a good nickname: “Important note: You might feel betrayed that I folded my post-Decision principles so quickly just because of Wade and LeBron in the open floor. Here’s my defense: I am a whore for quality basketball. I will take it any way I can get it. Right now, there is NOTHING like Wade and LeBron in fifth gear … well, except for Blake Griffin. Throw in Rose’s brilliance and the Superfreaks — Durant, Westbrook and Serge Ibaka, each of whom brings things to the table athletically that we haven’t seen on a basketball court before — the NBA has four “No, no, no, you have to see this in person, you can’t settle for seeing it on television” teams right now; five if you include Chris Andersen’s tattoos and six if you include watching Kevin Love rebound … which are “yes and yes” for me.”

The Tulsa 66ers have won 11 straight. Cole Aldrich had eight points and 13 rebounds in their win last night.

Darnell Mayberry asked a couple Thunder players how they get out of a slump. KD’s response: “Coming in and getting extra shots and pushing myself past the limit has always helped me get out of those slumps. Being confident and not getting down helps. It’s hard. I lose sleep over it. This is my life. I eat, sleep and breathe basketball. I just try to take my mind off of it by watching movies and playing video games. Not looking at Twitter and Facebook. Just shutting everything off and being myself and going back to being the kid I was when I was younger. Thinking about stuff like that helps me.”

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James Church
James Church 5pts

Rose plays defense... Someone steal Thibs from them. Then we'll be unstoppable! (Except in the post)

Anyway, KD could definitely win the MVP. If he gets his shooting going again and makes a good run of games like last years 25+ games, then he's in their minds. Then I honestly believe if KD can make a big impact in the playoffs that he will. The playoffs is where he'll win or lose it if you ask me. Should be anyway... Which is why I still don't understand why Kobe has only one MVP...

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

Hey, at the rate the Clippers are going, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that we get their pick THIS year.

Does anyone know what the protection on that pick is? Is it lottery-protected, or just Top 10?

As of right now, they have the 8th worst record in the NBA, but they are playing well and I could see them finishing a lot higher than that. If the pick is only Top-10 protected, we'd get it.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@KingGondo@den
vs okc back to back next month.

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

What we really need is for Utah, Portland and Denver to beat each other up and it'll probably take care of itself.

qrex
qrex 5pts

@f5alcon
It would be hard to imagine beating Utah again and not having the tiebreaker since there is so much difference currently in the division records.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@qrex
yeah, and if we beat utah again we will probably have the tiebreaker against them.

qrex
qrex 5pts

@KingGondo
And weirdly, either Utah or OKC would have the tie-breaker against Dallas despite a bad head-to-head record due to being a division winner.

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

@andrew
Well there's no way we're going to pass the Spurs, and very little probability that we'll pass the Lakers (considering how atrocious the Pacific Division is this year).

So to get the #3 seed, we'll have to beat out a crowded field including the Mavs, Hornets, Jazz, Blazers, and Nuggets. I think 52 wins would be enough to pretty much assure us of a top 4 seed (which is what matters if our goal is to get home court advantage for the first round).

If we can go 25-15 the rest of the season--and really, that should simply require taking care of business against the teams that are worse than us (i.e. the West lottery teams and anyone below the 6th seed in the East), then we should have a pretty good shot.

Our schedule in the second half of the season isn't easy, but it isn't tough either.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@David
But our offensive efficiency was horrible that game. We have a speed/athleticism/length advantage over nearly every team we play and our half-court offense sucks. It's important for us to get fast break points to maintain our offensive efficiency.

David
David 5pts

I wonder if there is more to be made from our tempo. In Boston we slowed down our tempo considerably and play much better defense

andrew
andrew 5pts

There Is no reason to believe our defense will get better imo...

And ibaka has been playing above expectations..

Daniel
Daniel 5pts

@andrew
Dallas has also been faltering lately. If they don't trade Caron Butler for a piece such as Iguodala who can actually help them in the reg season, I think we'll be competing neck and neck with them for it.

Chocolate Ginobili
Chocolate Ginobili 5pts

@andrew

With only one player playing beyond his expectations for this year so far (Westbrook), I think a 3 seed is a very real possibility if we can even make minor gains on the defensive end.

andrew
andrew 5pts

@f5alcon
I don't think we will finish as a 3 seed though, just my opinion.

Dizzy
Dizzy 5pts

@f5alcon

Gasol should. Especially with the time he spent covering for Bynum.

If Duncan cannot be voted in as a center, I would replace him with Chandler.

GAP
GAP 5pts

Off topic, i'm glad to see all of our older DT posters again. Missed you all.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@andrew
we are a 3 seed right now, and the expectations preseason we unrealistically high

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@andrew
4-5 seed shouldnt matter, thats what chicago will be, the top teams dont have a breakout player for mvp, rondo/pierce/garnett and manu/parker/duncan are too balanced to win.

andrew
andrew 5pts

@Dizzy
The hype has worn off. We were expected to make major progress this season(top 3 seed).

andrew
andrew 5pts

Hypothetical Trade time:

We trade Harden+Ibaka+Mullens(Salary matching purposes) to Memphis for Gasol+Mayo.

I love this trade for both sides...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Dizzy
i didnt think gasol or duncan qualified @ center

Dizzy
Dizzy 5pts

andrew :I honestly don’t think KD has any real shot at MVP… Mostly because I think our team will end up as a 4-5 seed.

We were the 8th seed last year and KD was in 2nd place MVP votes.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

i want to see kd get his first 50 point game

Dizzy
Dizzy 5pts

So it seems Westbrook is a near lock for the All-Star game.

BS's West lineup is...

PG: Paul, D-Will, Russ
SG: Kobe, Manu
SF: KD, Blake
PF: Melo, Dirk, Love
C: Gasol, Timmy

That is exactly what I wanted as well. Hopefully it'll happen.

andrew
andrew 5pts

I honestly don't think KD has any real shot at MVP... Mostly because I think our team will end up as a 4-5 seed.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@Chocolate Ginobili
KD would need to get his ppg up to 31+ on good percentages (TS% 60+). Wouldn't hurt if he racked up some more rebounds and assists. A few signature performances in spring would help as well.

Daniel
Daniel 5pts

@andrew
Even if Blake did put up 47-14 on the Pacers, Russ put up 43-8-8-3 against them earlier this season in an OT road win.

andrew
andrew 5pts

f5alcon :@andrew

just between rose and westbrook? other players have had more signature dominant performances, griffins 47-14, loves 30-30

We beat a full strength Celtics squad in Boston without Durant and Green. Westbrook abused a top defender (Rondo) the whole game. That to me is more impressive than piling up rebounds against the Knicks or putting up 47 on the Pacers.

With the increased emphasis on advanced stats nowadays I would be shocked if Rose could win MVP without cracking top ten in PER. Right now he is 16th...

Dizzy
Dizzy 5pts

@Chocolate Ginobili

I think a couple of 45 point games would do it. Keep around .475 fg%, .350 3pt%, and .900 ft%.

Chocolate Ginobili
Chocolate Ginobili 5pts

After watching the commercial with Russ in it yesterday, was anyone concerned with how eerily similar it was to the Thunder's current offense?

Anyway, what numbers do you think KD needs to put up in the 2nd half to get the MVP award?

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

Dizzy :Would you guys re-sign Nenad if we don’t land Varejao, Gasol, Nene or Scola over the summer?

I'd like to see Krstic and Nene on the same team, if for no other reason than to give the announcers fits..."Nenad passes to Nene, back to Nenad..." :-)

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@andrew
just between rose and westbrook? other players have had more signature dominant performances, griffins 47-14, loves 30-30

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

And nowhere near as bad as Iverson's award.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

It'd be a shame if Rose won, but no more so than any number of other dubious 'mvp' awards handed out in the past couple decades.

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

andrew :Nobody has had a more impressive game this year than russ had against boston imo… If we are looking for “signature” performances.

Agreed. The Nets OT win was also a nice signature game.

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

@andrew

I just don't see Wade getting the attention or accumulating the numbers to do it... I'd put my money on Dwight Howard (if the Magic surge), Derrick Rose (if the hype continues), or KD if the Thunder finish top 3 in the West. I think KD will have a great finish to the season and it will be fresh in the voters minds...

Dizzy
Dizzy 5pts

I didn't say Rose deserved the MVP. I was just pointing out that Rose's 3pt shooting has improved (unlike Russ and Rondo). If Russ had 17 games with .500 3pt shooting I'd be screaming for Russ to win MVP. ;)

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

russ has higher rebounding, steal and assist numbers only 2 ppg less on 3 less fga, and is the 2nd option on the team, no way is rose an mvp candidate and russ not be, though i dont think either of them are mvp

wade, dirk, cp3,nash, all are having great years

andrew
andrew 5pts

Nobody has had a more impressive game this year than russ had against boston imo... If we are looking for "signature" performances.

justin
justin 5pts

@Sammy

He's had a great January, almost Kobe-like with his scoring. If he keeps that up the rest of the year I would soften the stance.

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

@Sammy
Exactly, I actually think they're really even right now overall. Rose just gets all the hype because he's perceived to be "the" superstar in Chicago, while Russ is playing with Durant.

In reality, playing with Boozer and shooters like Korver helps Rose a lot as well. The Bulls didn't go on their recent tear until Boozer came back from injury.

andrew
andrew 5pts

If I had to bet on who thee mvp will be I would put my money on wade... I think the heat will win the east and wade will get it because of the lebron backlash..

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

Durant's a freak in that his body-type and the ways he uses it are unique.

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

@andrew
I never said he was "more" athletic than D12, Smith, or the Poster Child.

You were arguing that Serge isn't "unique," and if you can only come up with three comparable guys in the entire league I'd say that's pretty unique. He's like a lankier D12 with a 15-footer.

And Durant is one of the most unique players in the league in terms of his body and style of play.

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@KingGondo
He makes all shots at a higher percentage than Westbrook, not just threes. But RW gets to the line more to help offset that (though Rose's ft rate has ticked up as the season has progressed), and RW is a slightly better rebounder and passer. Rose turns the ball over a bit less.

andrew
andrew 5pts

How Is ibaka more athletic than dwight howard, josh smith, or griffin? He lacks coordination ro be a truly elite athlete at his position.

I will relent on durant even though I find it hard to consider him a "freak" when comparing him to someone like lebron..

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

The Rose hype is officially out of control. The only thing he clearly does better than Westbrook is shoot threes.

OKC has a similar record in a FAR tougher division and conference, and Russ carried the Thunder to a couple of miraculous wins when KD and Green were out.

Russ and LeBron are the only two players in the league averaging 20-5-5. And Rose is suddenly on everyone's MVP watch list? *Sigh*

justin
justin 5pts

And it's hilarious Simmons is pushing Rose because this is becoming very similar to the Michael Jordan / Karl Malone thing he harped on in his book.

justin
justin 5pts

Is Russell Westbrook a Top 10 MVP candidate? If not, how can Derrick Rose WIN the MVP? Doesn't compute for me.

justin
justin 5pts

Dizzy :@andrew

Rose is hitting his 3′s. That clearly places him above Rondo and Westbrook in PG competition. I’d rather Rose get MVP than LeBron.

Huh? Rose's scoring efficiency is a sliver higher than Westbrook's. Who cares how they score the points. Rose still does not get to the free throw line enough, and the fact that he's making threes at 38% and still doesn't have a TS% way above Westbrook's ...

It'd be sad if Rose got MVP. LeBron deserves it more, heck, Wade deserves it more. Nowitzki was playing better. Chris Paul has a bunch of scrubs in the playoffs again. Rose is barely in my Top 5 for MVP candidates, and that's if KD doesn't explode.

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