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Friday Bolts – Perk Edition

by Royce Young on February 25, 2011 at 7:30 am 157 Comments

I will go ahead and say what we’re all thinking: Please, for the love of Tyson Chandler, don’t let Kendrick Perkins fail his physical. I really can’t deal with another rescinded trade. Really, I can’t. On to a massive collection of links. Hope you don’t plan on doing any work today.

Ken Berger of CBSSports.com: “For the Thunder, GM Sam Presti did it again. He found something you can almost never find — a near 7-footer in his prime on a reasonable contract, with the payroll flexibility to sign him long-term whatever the new rules wind up being. But Presti did more than that. His long-term plan of building with youth, draft picks and cap space has suddenly collided with the potential for a substantial short-term reward. Even with an undersized lineup against the biggest frontcourt in the league, the Thunder put a scare into the Lakers in the first round last spring. Imagine if they had a rugged, athletic, legitimate center — one who has banged bodies with the Lakers in a championship series before.”

John Hollinger of ESPN.com: “For three and a half years, Sam Presti stayed patient. He waited and built and reminded everybody else to be patient, not rush, and see how these kids developed before splurging on the veteran pieces they’d eventually need around them. That moment was someday in the future, he’d remind all the impatient folks. Well, today was that day. The Thunder’s trades for Kendrick Perkins and Nazr Mohammed basically put the finishing touches on a rebuilding project that began in Seattle in June of 2007, adding the low-post defense and interior toughness that was the final hurdle to their rivaling the big boys in the West. This doesn’t necessarily mean they’ve arrived as contenders — the Thunder are still very young across the board. But it does mean that they’ve established their core group going forward. Whatever this team does over the next few seasons, it’s going to be with the same top nine players who are there right now, more or less.”

Hollinger also graded the trade a “B” for the Thunder. He also gave OKC a “B” for the Mohammed deal: “I wrote more here about the Thunder’s trades, and this deal was just a small part of their big day, but getting Mohammed was a solid move for their playoff run. They’ll have Mohammed’s Bird Rights and a role for him if he wants to stick around, and White was buried on the depth chart behind the likes of Ibaka and Nick Collison. In an underrated note, this deal also shaved $2 million on the Thunder’s 2011 cap number, so if they can’t keep Perkins it opens up some more options.”

Kevin Arnovitz: “I’m not going to crown the Thunder because they acquired a word-class screner and system-based defender with no range.”

Matt Moore of CBSSports.com: “But for Boston to give up Perkins, a centerpiece of their championship and Eastern Conference championship teams, for those two is going to cause a lot of questions in Boston. The biggest issue on the table is the status of Perkins’ knee. He limped off the court against the Warriors Tuesday night, and has continued to have issues since coming back. You have to wonder how his physical will shake out. Robinson provides a great backup point option to pair with the Thunder, who may now have the deepest team in the league. Of course, it’s Nate Robinson, which comes with its own problems, but if he struggles as he has in Boston this year, they also have Eric Maynor.”

Doc Rivers: “I talked to Scottie for a long time today and I mean that’s the biggest thing he’s worried about, I mean, he’s losing two high-character guys out of his locker room. I told him with Perk maybe you’re getting the best one in the league. My entire years in Boston I’ve been with Perk and he’s been with me, so personally, that’s tough.”

Henry Abbott: “My first thought was: Wow, the Thunder are gearing up to be Laker-killers, and they’ll be one team that won’t cede the paint to Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol. Kendrick Perkins, Nick Collison, Serge Ibaka and Nazr Mohammed will all make their presences felt in the playoffs. (And if somehow they all foul out, after the referee investigation, they can insert Cole Aldrich, too.) This on a team that has a 6-foot-10 small forward and a great perimeter defender in Thabo Sefolosha, who can put a body on Kobe Bryant.”

Jenni Carlson and Berry Tramel discuss the trade. I don’t really see how this trade is a “roll of the dice” though.

Zach Lowe of SI: “As for the Thunder, this is a brilliant move. They took two guys whom they clearly were not going to bring back next season and flipped them for the tough-minded, defensive center they have longed for since their trade for Tyson Chandler fell through. This team has regressed badly on defense, and it was not going to be a serious playoff contender unless it addressed that end of the floor. It has done so today, and without mucking up its salary cap picture at all. If Perkins does’t work out, Sam Presti shrugs his shoulders and lets him walk, all with the knowledge that he didn’t give up much of value to take a chance on a center with a ring. Presti needs money to re-sign Russell Westbrook, Serge Ibaka and James Harden in the next few years, and that’s money he wasn’t going to spend on Green and won’t have to spend on Perkins if he doesn’t like what he sees.”

Chris Forsberg of ESPN Boston: “The addition of Green is a very intriguing move, especially with eyes toward a Boston bench that has struggled with offensive consistency for much of the past two seasons. Boston gets the much-needed backup that will allow them to ease up on minutes for Ray Allen and Paul Pierce moving forward, while also developing a player that can slide into the starting lineup when Allen’s time in Boston is over.”

Marc Spears of Yahoo! Sports: “Once Perkins gets over the emotion of leaving Boston, he should quickly warm to playing with Durant and Westbrook. A source close to the center also thinks he’ll like being closer to his hometown in Beaumont, Texas. Parting with Jeff Green wasn’t easy, but if the Thunder were going to invest significant money in another core player in addition to Durant and Westbrook, it needed to be someone who could provide more of an interior presence. Nate Robinson also could provide some scoring off the bench. And if the Thunder keep both Westbrook and Perkins? They could continue to grow into the West’s most dangerous team as Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki get older.”

Kelly Dwyer of BDL: “This is another in a long line of heady moves for Oklahoma City GM Sam Presti. The team didn’t give up any draft picks, it didn’t affect its salary outlook (it’ll be under the cap this offseason, the amount depending on what it does with Perkins) in any meaningful way, and nobody is going to want to touch these guys come May. Careful planning leads to the ability to take advantage of great timing. Sam Presti’s team is certainly an example of that.”

Tom Ziller of SB Nation: “Despite his stature — he’s listed at 6-10, but might not be that – Perkins typically finishes in the top 10 in the league in block percentage, and he’s learned to limit his fouls. His man defense is a huge upgrade over Krstic, and will allow Nick Collison — a fine defender in his own right — to split power forward minutes with Serge Ibaka. The Thunder also managed to trade for Nazr Mohammed; he will play behind Perkins, leaving only minimal drop-off defensively. Oklahoma City runs its offense through Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, and they do a wonderful job. Addressing the team’s defense was a priority, and Thursday’s trades got the job done.”

Scott Carefoot of TBJ: “The trade is a landscape changer in both conferences because a healthy Perkins gives the Thunder a defensive backbone to complement the scoring prowess of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook. Perkins also gives them an answer for Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan and Tyson Chandler in the Western Conference playoffs. His acquisition has to be viewed as a stunning success for Thunder GM Sam Presti.”

Kendrick Perkins was crying when he was told he was dealt: “He’s taking it pretty hard because he’s been here eight years,” Robinson just said while checking out of the team hotel in Denver. “He was very emotional, crying. He has to move his family, and he’s been really tight with Rondo and other guys on the team. I feel his pain. It was tough when I left New York because of all the guys I’d been around. With Perk, everyone thinks he’s mean because of how he looks, but he’s a soft giant with a big heart,” he said. “I told him he’s not alone. We’re going together. I told him you won’t be by yourself. You’ll have me by your side. We’ll make it work together.”

For CBSSports.com, I had OKC as a big winner for yesterday.

Five thoughts from Darnell Mayberry: “I love both deals. In one trade, the Thunder essentially packaged its out of position power forward (who is probably better suited as a sixth man) and its token starting center for a proven championship caliber center who can anchor its defense. In the other deal, OKC dealt spare parts for additional size, shot-blocking, experience and frontcourt depth. And the Thunder did it all without blowing up its budget in the short or long term. That about sums up the day. Yeah, the Thunder came out a huge winner.”

Berry Tramel: “The primary message from the trades for Kendrick Perkins and Nazr Mohammed is this: the Thunder had to get better defensively on the interior to make any kind of playoff run. But the underlying message is this: the Thunder is showing its belief in Serge Ibaka and James Harden.”

Kurt Helin of PBT grades the trade: “This was a brilliant trade. Sure, a bit of a risk because Perkins is coming off an injury and could be a free agent, but the Thunder addressed their biggest need — a defensive presence in the paint — with one of the best in the game at it. They just got a whole lot better and the West playoffs just got a lot more interesting. Grade: A”

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Crow
Crow 5pts

@Vince

Barkley leaving Orlando out isn't shocking to me, but it is more gas on the fire.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Odds are good that they keep those 5 starters.

Crow
Crow 5pts

I think there will be other changes in the next 2 years. By fall 2013 I'd say 2 or more of those will be elsewhere.

Vince
Vince 5pts

Some thoughts:

1. Barkley added OKC to his list of teams with a title shot (MIA,BOS,CHI,LAL,DAL,SAS,OKC). Not ground-breaking but still nice to hear.

2. Zach Lowe on SI (linked above) was one of the few national writers to point out Green's, uh, weaknesses. It's funny to hear people talking about him guarding LeBron and taking minutes from Ray Allen at the 2.

3. Here's a 10-man rotation, with ages:

1: Westbrook (22), Maynor (23)
2: Harden (21), Thabo (26)
3: Durant (22), Cook (23)
4: Ibaka (21), Collison (30)
5: Perkins (26), Mohammed (33)

I mean, holy moly. I know the small market/CBA thing is an issue, but how lucky are we to have this basic unit (assuming we can re-sign Perk) for the next 5 years, pretty much in its prime? We still have some flexibility to upgrade at the 2, have dice to roll on Aldrich, but I think this team is at least in the title discussion for as long as Presti can keep them together. Suh-weet.

CenOK
CenOK 5pts

kfmsooner :@justin

I think we lose some on offense. It will all depend on Ibaka’s development. Wasn’t there an article about Ibaka’s proficiency on the PnR recently? I can’t think of what day it was in the Bolts/comments.
I think Serge will improve. The PnR/PnP action should be his bread and butter, but Serge is a notorious ball stopper. He just doesn’t understand how to swing the ball in the motion of an offense.

Let's not forget that Serge is only halfway through his sophomore season, in which time he has seen limited minutes, and for a majority of it with the second unit. Not to mention he's only been playing organized ball for 5 years. I wouldn't be overly worried about him learning how to better flow in the offense. Like some have said, thinking it will all come together by May may be premature. But give him a full season of starting at PF and I wouldn't doubt at all him being one of the best PFs in the league.

sas
sas 5pts

@TaoMaas
Probably the first question KD and the guys ask when they get in the lockerroom. lol

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

Well, I only hope Presti asked the right question of our new players before doing this trade...."X-box or Wii?"

Crow
Crow 5pts

Derrick Byars and Danny Green as other names.

Has anybody asked Presti who his favorite Celtic was growing up? Maybe it was Bird. Maybe it was Ainge. Might reveal something.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Maybe a 10 day look at Vaden.
Weaver. Alan Anderson or something.

sas
sas 5pts

@ThunderHorn
I loved this from part 1: ...Motivation No. 8: "I don't need to do anything! I'm Sam Effing Presti! I'll make a trade when I'm good and $*#$%^ ready! STOP PUSHING ME!"

ThunderHorn
ThunderHorn 5pts

Simmons on the trades:

Part 1: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110225/part1&sportCat=nba

Part 2(Perkins trade): http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110225/part2&sportCat=nba

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

All we need now is a quality SF who can hit 3's with consistency off the bench.

And I'm here to tell you, those are not that hard to find - especially with our assets.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Or Pavlovic.

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

Brian Davis' gaffes are Le Gen Dary!

Crow
Crow 5pts

@f5alcon

I might look at Murphy but I don't think they'll get him.

I'd look at others too. Down the list, but I wonder what they think about Larry Owens.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Years back, the Spurs let Mohammed leave. Part of it was money he could earn and cheaper available alternatives. But desire and effort all the time was probably part of it too. Pts, rebs and blocks are important and he has been getting them but he has to play maximum shot defense every play he is used. The team defense in Charlotte suggests he has not really done that consistently recently (they have been better with him off than on). Hopefully the desire for one more contract will kick things up. He will reduce opponent FTAs. Both he and Perkins have very light impacts on forcing (non-block) turnovers at team level but so were the guys they replace. The team has not excelled at this like they did last season but shot defense and limiting FTAs are more important.

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

I also can't wait to hear Traber butcher his name, and probably criticize him for being a Muslim.

qrex
qrex 5pts

@kfmsooner
As long as he doesn't call him a nazi all night... :)

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@kfmsooner
sorry, should not have had the 'get' in that...

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@DJ R7
He wasn't being serious...making fun of Brian Davis. BD, the professional, will get butcher his name...

gr8ball83
gr8ball83 5pts

@DJ R7
Those werent nickname suggestions, they were guesses on how brian davis would mispronounce his name....

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@Keith
Whatever pronunciation BD lands on, GL will pronounce it differently...

DJ R7
DJ R7 5pts

@DJ R7

*you know like Nos.

Correction

DJ R7
DJ R7 5pts

Keith :@qrexNazer (like laser)NozzerNom Nom (silent zr)

PLEASE DO NOT CALL HIM THAT. Whats with people these days having horrible nick name suggestions.

Just call him his name,

Or call him Naz, or Noz like you Nos.

Most people can't even pronounce his name anyway. Heard almost everyone that isn't a reporter, or commentator call the man Naz, or Noz. NOM NOM? you can't be serious. I remember when people were tyring to call Westbrook "Thriller" you can't be serious haha, Hero, or Hero Mode is just so much better.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@f5alcon
More than the vet minimum considering we saved money in both trades. And thus, more than any of the other contenders.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@justin
how much can we offer murphy?

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Crow
troy murphy?

justin
justin 5pts

@Crow

Troy Murphy would be perfect but it sounds like there will be a long line for him.

C_Dub
C_Dub 5pts

f5alcon :@C_Dub

perk will wear 5.
okcthunder OKC THUNDER
by DarnellMayberry
Jersey numbers for new Thunder players: Perkins 5, Robinson 3, Mohammed 8.

Good stuff. :D

Crow
Crow 5pts

I really hope they use that open roster spot on a tall forward, preferably with a 3 pt shot. Just in case.

As it is the decent or better 3 pt shooters really need to emphasize 3s over long 2s.

Brooks will need to dance Maynor, Ivey, Cook, Robinson in for some 3s. Can Ibaka shoot it enough to join in? I'd experiment a little.

They are really committed to the drive game. Westbrook and Durant can't take night off of that. They've got to go inside very game.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@qrex
Nazer (like laser)
Nozzer
Nom Nom (silent zr)

DavyTheWise
DavyTheWise 5pts

RW, KD, Serge, and Perk could be lengen... i hope you aren't lactose intolerent for the next part cause its... dairy.

Keith
Keith 5pts

f5alcon :@Bryan

i hope we stay home on the perimeter now, perkins and ibaka are both career 5% blk% players we are going to have a wall at the rim, i hope opponent points per game drops below 90, and harden and ibaka can replace the lost offense and we can start destroying teams with double digit wins every game.

I'm leery of a lot of change. We've been helping off the perimeter for no reason a lot already. Perk and Ibaka certainly man the defense better, but that doesn't change everyone being accustomed to playing "dumb" anyway. I think we certainly improve, but I expect the three point line to still be a relatively large negative in the short term. I just hope we get it all sorted by the playoffs.

qrex
qrex 5pts

f5alcon :@Bryan

bD will probably say nazr’s name wrong.

Can't wait to hear...

Any early guesses how it will come out?

gr8ball83
gr8ball83 5pts

@Bryan
Would be so much better if he had done the, "Legen.... wait for it... Dary!!"

Greg
Greg 5pts

So if Perk has a number already, assuming he passed his physical?

gr8ball83
gr8ball83 5pts

@f5alcon
That would be nice :) Hollinger would like that too.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Bryan
bD will probably say nazr's name wrong.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Bryan
i hope we stay home on the perimeter now, perkins and ibaka are both career 5% blk% players we are going to have a wall at the rim, i hope opponent points per game drops below 90, and harden and ibaka can replace the lost offense and we can start destroying teams with double digit wins every game.

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

.... "legendary"

When are we trading our announcers again?

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

kfmsooner :@Bryan

Remember…the Ibaka/Maynor combo is ‘LEGENDARY’…

HAHAHA!!!

I'm glad I was on my couch for that one. If I had been in my seat at the "Stadium Formerly Known as the Ford Center" I would have no idea what you are talking about lol!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@C_Dub
perk will wear 5.

okcthunder OKC THUNDER
by DarnellMayberry
Jersey numbers for new Thunder players: Perkins 5, Robinson 3, Mohammed 8.

C_Dub
C_Dub 5pts

I I don't know if anybody posted this but it's been revealed that Nazr will wear #8 and Nate will take #3. Perk's number hasn't been released yet (pending physical?).

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@Bryan
Remember...the Ibaka/Maynor combo is 'LEGENDARY'...

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

I hope that these trades limit the Thunder's reliance on help defense and free up our perimeter players to protect the three point line a little better.

Also, I think it's interesting that Ibaka would most like to be like Kevin Garnett..... now he get's to play with Garnett's sidekick for the foreseeable future.

gr8ball83
gr8ball83 5pts

@qrex
Yeah, we were talking about Nazr being excited to join the Thunder, Charlotte to OKC is a pretty good move for crowd support

KingGondo
KingGondo 5pts

I want Jeff to succeed, and I do think he'll benefit from playing with a pass-first PG like Rondo. He'll probably get significantly easier looks more consistently than he did in OKC.

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

justin :@kfmsooner

Ibaka and Perkins both have bad hands and can’t dribble and are poor passers. I think Ibaka stands a chance at improving there. But if they start Thabo with those two, it might get ugly on offense.

This is my biggest concern as well. If anything, this trade makes Thabo even LESS valuable to the starting lineup. With Perkins and Ibaka protecting the rim, Thabo's value for help D is greatly diminished. And without Jeff, we will need someone to help spread the floor and hit the corner three (yes I know that some teams would just let Jeff take it).

They almost HAVE to start Harden now!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Fuzzy Logic
it is pretty accurate

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

Wow... Kelly Dwyers other article not quite so kind in it's view of the Celts... particularly of Jeff Green:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/The-Celtics-stun-the-NBA-with-a-pair-of-deals?urn=nba-325990

On an open roster, we don't know where Jeff Green plays. He's a poor rebounder, an awful defender at the power-forward slot, and he doesn't do enough offensively to warrant a look at small forward. And yet, this doesn't stop him from shooting nearly four 3-pointers a game, despite making only 30 percent of his looks from out there. His shot selection has been an issue since his rookie year, and it's still hard to tell, exactly, where he fits in this league. Other than a guy that seems to luck into getting big minutes and plenty of shot opportunities.

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