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Film Study: The backdoor connection

by Royce Young on March 21, 2011 at 12:58 pm 96 Comments

It’s become part of the Thunder game routine. Just like you can be sure Russell Westbrook will smack his hands together after a no-call at least once, just like you can know Kevin Durant will fall down a time or two in a way that scares you to death and just like you can be certain Nick Collison will take a charge, you can also be sure James Harden and Collison will hook up on a backdoor cut and pass.

Unofficially, I think they have a streak of 60 games on this. I can’t think of a night it didn’t happen honestly. It’s become a go-to set for the second unit and one with a success rate of somewhere around 99 percent.

So naturally, let’s study it in a little greater detail. In the video I put one backdoor play from the Charlotte game Friday and one from Sunday night’s game against Toronto.

The first couple times I saw the backdoor play, I always kind of assumed it was just a smart two-man play from Collison and Harden. I didn’t really see it as a called set, but more of two smart players improvising a good play. Harden is probably the best cutter on the team and he has tremendous hands, so the play kind of comes natural. I don’t know why it always seems to come with Collison, but he is a very good passer and because he has the threat of being capable of that 18-20 foot jumper, it draws the defense to him and takes focus away.

The play starts with Collison slipping off after kind of faking a screen. Nothing special about that, but obviously the Thunder wants the ball in Collison’s hands at the top of the key with some space.

Again, the space Collison has is pretty important, but the key to the play is the setup. Without that, this thing never works. Harden’s man has committed slightly to helping on Collison, at least just in eying him. Harden sets up his man by faking either a hard move to get a hand-off from Collison or just a pass. Without Harden’s 3-point threat, his defender isn’t as concerned about where he’s going. So Harden stutters toward Collison and that’s all he needs. Once his man moves slightly toward stopping the hand-off, it’s all over.

The way the play is designed, I think it’s an option between Collison and Harden. If Harden feels his man commit, he’ll backcut. If he doesn’t get it, he’ll come up for a hand-off. Again, that’s a big reason the play is so tough to stop. Because Harden can hit the 3 off the hand-off, defenders have to key on both.

Tyrus Thomas actually did a pretty good job of sniffing the play out and forced Harden to pump a couple times before scoring. But you can see how Harden barely needs any space to get it done. It’s kind of like a wide receiver putting his man on his hip. Once that happens, all it takes is a good throw from the quarterback and there’s no stopping it. And in this case, Nick Collison is basically the Peyton Manning of backdoor passing.

The way the Thunder ran it Sunday against the Raptors was slightly different with Collison not faking his on-ball screen quite as well. His man didn’t commit, so Collison never had extra space.

But what you can see is that the floor spacing is terrific. Just look at that huge hole there in the paint. Collison sells the hand-off even more by taking a dribble and a step toward Harden and right at that moment, Harden cuts reverses and cuts hard to the baseline.

The biggest reason I love this play so much is the timing and chemistry it requires to execute. Harden has to make eye contact with Collison and at the same time, they have to sync up to make it work. It’s a trust play. Collison is trusting Harden not to fake a cut and step back out and Harden trusts Collison to deliver the ball on time.

Again, to use the quarterback analogy, Collison has to sort of throw Harden open. He has to lead him to the basket, picking a spot out and dropping the ball right there for Harden to scoop up and go to the rim with.

Harden’s ability to cut along the baseline has become such a weapon for the Thunder and the reason he’s so good is because he’s always under control, times it well and has terrific hands.

This is the type of play that as long as Harden and Collison set it up properly and get on time together, you really can’t stop it. The best you can hope for is for Harden’s man to guess right and play him to the backdoor more than hedging on the dribble hand-off. Or hope your big man rotates perfectly on time to cut Harden off at the rim. That’s about it.

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okc baby
okc baby 5pts

@Grolgar
Obviously, you dont know much about basketball

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Nullum
oh, cool, but yeah being close enough to go to games will be good.

Nullum
Nullum 5pts

Yeah. But, it won't be until next year from everything I've heard. It was officially announced yesterday, but once the old Devon building was purchased (few months back) most of us assumed it would happen eventually.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Nullum
does that mean you work for them and are moving here?

Nullum
Nullum 5pts

@Grolgar
(Haven't posted on the forums since the site required registration)

I'm not sure if CLR will spend much money on the Thunder, but I know I will! (I have only been to 2 games, because the 1.5 drive from Enid sort of dulls the enjoyment.)

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Thunder Beard
lol, i started classifying the posters by their posting type.

Thunder Beard
Thunder Beard 5pts

@f5alcon
Or perhaps my sarcasm dial just isn't tuned in well, something about a lack of coffee. and now that I can be content knowing the two cents no one was asking for was thrown in I can turn the forum back over to the more intellectual types. <-- that wasn't sarcasm. or that...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Thunder Beard
oh ok, well i guess my sarcasm detector wasnt properly calibrated this morning

Thunder Beard
Thunder Beard 5pts

Im all for starting him next season. I don't want to picture next season without him starting.lol.

Thunder Beard
Thunder Beard 5pts

@f5alcon
Thats what I found amusing enough to actually make my first post a snarky comment.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@Thunder Beard

@f5alcon
Yes...we have definitely discussed it. Check this thread, yesterday's thread and half of justin's posts going back to last year's all-star game...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Thunder Beard
yeah that is what the whole thread more or less discussed

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

@Thomas

In a small market like OKC, corporate sponsorship is very important. Hopefully Continental will get involved with downtown and the Thunder.

Thunder Beard
Thunder Beard 5pts

Harden's been my favorite player all season. Glad to see him doing so well. So I dont know if anyone else has given this any thought, but what about putting him into the starting line up? I mean, I really like how our bench can come out and correct the course of the game on some nights but shouldn't the team be willing to give up on this partly so we can see Harden start? :) lol. Personally I just love the bench's chemistry too much to mess with it until next season.

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

okc baby :Denver got rid of that superstar liability. Nuggets just not a Cinderella team. They are legit.

I was worried up until @okcbaby said something. Since he/she has been wrong on almost everything... I'll sleep a little easier now.

jeff allen
jeff allen 5pts

he just said backdoor connection... giggityy

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

They can match any offer for green, perk wasn’t a RFA so he could leave with them having no chance to match.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@shiki
That's the part of the trade I could never understand. I don't know how Boston can pay Green. If they can, why would you spend on Green when you have PP for at least 2 more years after this one...If Travis Outlaw can get 5/35m, you would assume JG could get 4/30m...

My only reasoning is that they wanted to get a young FA so they could hold his Bird rights. Boston would have had no chance at JG as a RFA b.c they are over the cap. They did save 4.5m next year by trading Nate as well.

shiki
shiki 5pts

Green says he wants to stay in Boston.I am interesting how much Angie will give him.He didn't want to give perk 30M/4 years,can he give more to Green who is a backup?

Thomas
Thomas 5pts

There was news late yesterday that may eventually equal more support for the Thunder's viability here.

All of us locals know that Chesapeake, Sandridge and Devon are three of the largest corporate backers of the Thunder. There's a chance the team may be able lure the support of another oil and gas company soon. Continental Resources, Inc., Oklahoma's 4th largest publicly traded company, announced plans to relocate its headquarters to OKC from Enid. I don't know for sure whether they would get involved in sponsoring the team but at least its a possibility and its good to have them here for the local economy if nothing else.

Daniel Plainview
Daniel Plainview 5pts

justin :
If Harden maintains this kind of productivity, even 75% of it, he should be starting…

He should be starting regardless. If not just for he and the starters to know how that dynamic works together. He should get the reps. n I understand his value as the main scorer on the second unit, but the change is going to come anyway - hes not going to prefer coming of the bench forever - so why not implement the strategy now? Dont we always start off bad and then play catch up? Thabo is dead weight on the offensive end and has had almost 2 years now to exploit the incredible space he gets from defensive scheming, pan-league. They basically prepare for 4 men and Thabo has never once taken advantage of this (I think the hit e three;s against LA, but what was that but an abberation?). Start Harden and our second unit doesnt have to play catch up game every time. For all the naysayers, can you imagine the space RW and KD will have when they have a the major and complex threat Harden offers? Start Harden and the uptick of scoring (The defense will suffer little if at all) our starting unit will be exponential, and neither of our first or second units will feel the pressure to even the score. We must do this even as an experiment, I mean, Christ, small ball has been attempted and has still reared its ugly head despite the advent of the Bigs.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Denver got rid of that superstar liability. Nuggets just not a Cinderella team. They are legit.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

While I have no authority, stop fighting, the community is big enough that we are not all going to get along. While this is the internet, the majority of posters are still geographically close to each other. So work this out, you dont have to like each other but spare the rest of us from it. royce and co. do read most if not all comments, but let's not run and tattle if we dont have to.

@dylan
Ignore him for a few days, he isnt being so negative that there is no room for discussion.

@Skeletor
The precedent for being banned is pretty high, a blatant repeated personal attack, over the course of weeks seems to be the criteria for a banning, dylan has not reached that level. IP bans are not effective on here because people post from multiple locations, same with account bans it is easy to create a new account. Ignore his posts.

Ozarkhick
Ozarkhick 5pts

One of those B2B's in Denver last year had to be one of our worst losses. We were playing Ollie and Thomas with a lot of time left on the clock it was so ugly.

Joshua G
Joshua G 5pts

Keith :@Grolgar

It’s certainly getting on time to take them seriously. They aren’t going to beat themselves like it seemed after the trade. I don’t think their dismantling of the Raptors says much (just like our close loss). The Raptors are a bad team playing on a back to back, against a team that isn’t, on the road, in the Mile High City, after a very emotional win. They have a lot going against them tonight.
Give Denver their due, though. I wouldn’t want to face them without home court advantage.

I would love to see Denver's record for the past couple of years in this precise situation. I remember that last year we had several B2B's against the Nuggets when they were rested. Their home court gives them an immense advantage in this situation.

Skeletor
Skeletor 5pts

Royce, you really need to come up with posting guidelines with clear cut criteria about what is appropriate and what is not allowed. It might also help to block people's IP addresses who violate them. This should cut out some of the trolling and personal attacks.

Skeletor
Skeletor 5pts

First, of all, I was just joking. Second of all, ignore dylan, he has it out against to me and keeps trying to make me look idiotic. Third, using A, B, C, in a proposition is not geometry, it's logic and used all the time in the formulation of arguments. Of course, this argument is faulty because it's based on a faulty warrant and there are plenty of grounds to disprove it. Hence, my declaration that this is a joke. Still, Denver is playing well, and I am not the only one who is worried about them.

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

dylan :

Skeletor :
Raptors getting crushed by Denver. So if, team A beats B and then C crushes A then C is better than B, right?–This is mostly a joke, though I’m still a little nervous about Denver. We really need to win the first meeting with them and squelch some hope.

Get that transitive property shit out of here, this isn’t geometry. Three or four years ago you could use it to say that a D3 college football team was better than the national champion. It’s meaningless.

It's not meaningless. You jut can't assume that Result A + Result B = Result C. Still watching the Nuggets do this to team after team, including the one that just beat us on our homecourt, is something to keep an eye on...

innocent bystander
innocent bystander 5pts

@Keith
At this point, I think I'm beyond worrying who will be #5. What ever team makes that spot will have played well enough to earn it and thus will be dangerous. I like our chances regardless -- we just have to cross that bridge when we get there.

Keith
Keith 5pts

@Grolgar
It's certainly getting on time to take them seriously. They aren't going to beat themselves like it seemed after the trade. I don't think their dismantling of the Raptors says much (just like our close loss). The Raptors are a bad team playing on a back to back, against a team that isn't, on the road, in the Mile High City, after a very emotional win. They have a lot going against them tonight.

Give Denver their due, though. I wouldn't want to face them without home court advantage.

innocent bystander
innocent bystander 5pts

@dylan
calm down, he said in his post that it was mostly a joke

Thomas
Thomas 5pts

Compare James' development at this point (3/4 through his second pro season) to Russ' a year ago at this time? Who is/was further along accordingly?

dylan
dylan 5pts

Skeletor :
Raptors getting crushed by Denver. So if, team A beats B and then C crushes A then C is better than B, right?–This is mostly a joke, though I’m still a little nervous about Denver. We really need to win the first meeting with them and squelch some hope.

Get that transitive property shit out of here, this isn't geometry. Three or four years ago you could use it to say that a D3 college football team was better than the national champion. It's meaningless.

Ozarkhick
Ozarkhick 5pts

The Nuggets are scary because you had better hold serve on your court, or else.

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

Nuggets 74 Raptors 46. 3rd just began. Should we start to be scared of the Nuggets. They have been amazing since the trade.

innocent bystander
innocent bystander 5pts

Nuggets are doing to the Raptors what we SHOULD HAVE (and could have) done

*sigh*

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

@Crow

I agree. He will be starter eventually. All in due time grasshoppers. Remember, LESS THAN 2 years ago, we were mired in a 23 win season. Oh how quickly we things change.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@bouzi4real
i hope that three is blocks and not assists, because serge is never going to average 3 assists. Also serge might not develop, it is possible he is good as he will ever be. serge hasnt shot well in the starting role.

Also the best player should start period, keeping harden on the bench is about as smart as durant starting at SG, does it work, somewhat, but it would be better if he didnt, same here, harden disappears with the starters because russ and KD ignore him.

Skeletor
Skeletor 5pts

I don't mean first meeting of the year. I know we won that one, and it was beautiful :) I meant the first time we see them again

Skeletor
Skeletor 5pts

Raptors getting crushed by Denver. So if, team A beats B and then C crushes A then C is better than B, right?--This is mostly a joke, though I'm still a little nervous about Denver. We really need to win the first meeting with them and squelch some hope.

Ozarkhick
Ozarkhick 5pts

Ha - Thabeet got sent to the D-league again.

I heard he's a big shopaholic. He's gonna hate it playing for "Rio Grande Valley"

bouzi4real
bouzi4real 5pts

Wow maybe Harden should start next year after we get someone who can score off the bench.... sorry to say it but no one else can. (Yes i know he can play with the second unit too) but i also know the biggest thing to coaching is player management and I get the feeling that Harden may not be able to perform at his high level for 35 mins a game. I mean several of your guys have said it yourself, Harden disappears when he plays with the starters.

We may not know the whole story. Sooooo all this This guy should start or this guy shouldn't might not be the best educated solution to our starters problems.

The best solution to the current problem would to develop Serge's game by running to pick-n-pop sets for him in the first and third like we did Krstic. because i'd rather have perk as the 10-10-2 guy and Serge as a 14-8-3 player than a 10-10-3 and a 6-8-1 frountcourt.

innocent bystander
innocent bystander 5pts

I get the distinct feeling that justin thinks Harden should start
;)

justin
justin 5pts

If Harden maintains this kind of productivity, even 75% of it, he should be starting...

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Thomas

I get your point.

Giving Harden time to grow his game and grow his game with the starters has some logic but I don't know how long you give that phase.

Harden as a super-sub for another season? Then try to extend him with that resume instead of as a starter? They might be thinking that. At least some teams might.

Harden I'd think would want to start on his 2nd contract... or really before. I think he'll eventually get it. Not sure when they will do it though.

Crow
Crow 5pts

If Westbrook-Durant-Ibaka-Perkins is assumed to be locked in long-term (though it might be a bit early to do this) then the SG starter is the last starting unit choice to firm up.

The comparison of lineup performances with the 2 SGs will carry a lot of importance to me, but it will be a small sample and you don't throw away the season data and they probably continue to look at this issue next season.

Have to wonder a bit if the Harden as Ginobili thinking heavily influences the design and the decisionmaking.

Not sure how rigid "the design" should be.

Turns out Ginobili is about 50 / 50 starter vs off the bench for his career with 3 major switches in primary choice.

justin
justin 5pts

andrew :@Thomas
. Russ and its not even close. U realize Russ has played great for an entire season and James has played well for only about two months this season right? Russ can/will be a top 3 pg. James has a ways to go before he becomes even a top ten sg….

FWIW, Harden is now 11th among SG's in PER.

Thomas
Thomas 5pts

@Crow
If play warranted it, Harden would have started a long time ago wouldn't he?

Crow
Crow 5pts

@DSYIII

Yeah, if they are going to close with W-H-D then there is a strong reason for getting it more time and maybe earlier in the game would be more relaxed and ripe for learning.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Hypothetically you could switch Thabo and Harden in and out of the starting lineup if you felt match-ups or recent play warranted it. They prefer stability and there may be some value to stability but I don't if rigid is necessarily the best choice.

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