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Thunder comeback falls short against the Raptors in 95-93 loss

by Michael Kimball on March 20, 2011 at 10:07 pm 89 Comments

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Well, now we know which late-season game people can point to if a single loss costs Oklahoma City a better playoff seed. I guess the bright side is that the Thunder would probably prefer the No. 5 seed Nuggets over the No. 6 seed Trail Blazers in the first round, assuming those teams stay in those spots and OKC stays at No. 4.

Oklahoma City dropped its first game since March 7 on Sunday with a 95-93 loss at home to the Toronto Raptors. The Raptors snapped a 14-game road losing streak and swept the season series against the Thunder in the process.

OKC tried to follow the same script it stuck to for much of the season before the (now-snapped) six-game win streak by lacking focus for three quarters before playing inspired offense in the final stanza. But, as it has been before and could be again, Oklahoma City’s charge was too little, too late and came back to bite the team.

The Thunder looked like it was going to escape with a win when it took a late three-point lead, but it just couldn’t hold on. Kendrick Perkins had two free throws late that could have pushed it to a two-possession lead, but he missed both of them and Toronto capitalized. A little hook shot by Amir Johnson with 1.4 seconds left doomed Oklahoma City, and Kevin Durant’s look at the buzzer wasn’t close.

It was definitely a deflating loss for OKC, but one bright spot was the play of James Harden. Harden scored 23 points and was a one-man wrecking crew early in the fourth quarter to help erase a 10-point Toronto lead and give the Thunder a chance to win a game that it played like it didn’t care about for much of the night. It just didn’t happen to be enough.

The Thunder just didn’t look to be in sync for most of the game, and Durant having a poor shooting night didn’t help things. Russell Westbrook contributed his own bad night from the floor, punctuated by the usual assortment of drives that were a bit out of control, and not enough of the resulting shots fell.

I tend to think that the Raptors have a record that is a lot worse than their roster should be earning, especially playing an Eastern Conference schedule. But that’s no excuse. Oklahoma City had a bad team in its own house, and it didn’t win. With as well as OKC has played against bad teams recently, maybe it was about time for the Thunder to finally drop one. It almost did Friday against Charlotte until a late run put the Bobcats away. Instead, it came tonight against Toronto. But it shouldn’t have.

Maybe the Thunder finally just lost focus after a string of wins, mostly against bad teams. But it’s time to get that focus back, because playoff seeding is on the line and a pivotal game against the Trail Blazers is only a week away. Let’s just hope OKC got whatever ailed it tonight out of its system.

NOTES

  • Westbrook had zero rebounds in the win Friday against Charlotte, but made up for it with a board on the Raptors’ first possession. Friday was the first time since Feb. 13 and only the second time all season that Westbrook didn’t get at least one rebound. Maybe his rebound totals are going to dip a bit now that Perkins and Serge Ibaka have replaced Nenad Krstic and Jeff Green in the starting lineup?
  • How about Perk with three dimes in the first three-plus minutes? Going all Steve Nash on us.
  • I also liked Perk basically drawing a technical foul on Johnson in the first quarter. On the previous possession, Johnson had a mismatch with Perk when he had the ball on the perimeter, but drained a three instead of taking Perkins to the hole. They shared words for one reason or another on the way back down the court for the Thunder’s possession, then on the next Toronto possession Johnson turned it over and shared words with Perk again before shoving him. Johnson got T’d up, KD drained the free throw, and I loved Perk just a little bit more. And then a few minutes later … wished he hadn’t gotten his own technical when he argued an offensive foul that Reggie Evans did a good job of selling.
  • Toronto threw a zone at the Thunder for awhile in the first quarter. It worked for a couple of possessions until after a timeout Oklahoma City came back with a nice lob to KD and another backdoor cut that the Thunder botched. Then Toronto went back to man defense.
  • I know there’s a strong feeling from a lot of folks that Harden needs to start. But I’m in the camp that likes where he is because of the scoring punch he provides with the second unit and the chemistry that the second unit has in general. OKC’s usual batch of five non-starters played solidly, if not as well as it could, against the Raptors’ second unit, which features Jerryd Bayless and his formidable bald spot. (Remember when lots of draftniks thought the Thunder should have taken Bayless over Westbrook? … Yeah. Glad OKC went with Jet Zero.)
  • I kinda like Perkins and Nazr Mohammed playing together, which they did briefly again tonight. I don’t like it so much against Andrea Bargnani, but I think it warrants more experimentation.
  • James Harden’s beard and ‘hawk > James Johnson’s beard and ‘hawk.
  • Leandro Barbosa just murdered Oklahoma City tonight. He had 19 points in only 14 minutes and was so wide-open on a late 3-pointer that it made me sick.
  • Just about everyone on the Toronto roster — well, other than Evans — seems to be a good ball handler. The Raptors’ big men gave their Thunder counterparts a lot of trouble when they put the ball on the floor on the perimeter.
  • A quick aside: In the arena and on TV, the Thunder has been advertising “a limited number” of season tickets for sale. Teams always advertise for “a limited number” of tickets when there aren’t too many left. And that has always been a BIG pet peeve of mine. Of course it’s a limited number. There are only so many seats in the arena. If every single one was available, it would still be a limited number.
  • Bargnani really exploited the Thunder’s inability to match up with him. There’s not a single player on the OKC roster who’s an ideal defender for him. That said, there aren’t too many guys in the NBA who are, but still. I’m glad there aren’t a lot of guys like him in the Western Conference playoff lineup.
  • Durant missed seven straight shots from late in the second quarter through his only make in the fourth quarter. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was when the Thunder started to let the game get out of control.
  • Harden brought the Thunder back into the game early in the fourth pretty much all by himself. He scored seven points at the line and had an assist on Oklahoma City’s first four possessions in the final frame and brought the crowd to life. Then after two scoreless possessions for OKC, he ripped a rebound away from Evans and assisted on another bucket, and added another point from the stripe on the next Thunder offensive possession.
  • I liked how Perk sternly told Harden where to go on a fourth quarter jump ball … and then tipped it right to him.
  • Free throws were a huge part of the Thunder comeback, with  the team going 15-19 from the line in the fourth compared to 0-2 for Toronto. But missing those last two left the door open for the Raptors, and they took advantage.

The loss was basically inexcusable in a lot of ways. That said, it doesn’t have to be the end of the world. As long as Oklahoma City bounces back with wins against the reeling Jazz and hapless Timberwolves, this one can just be dismissed as a one-game blip. And even in a loss, the Thunder still played decent defense for a lot of the game and held Toronto to only 43 percent shooting. So here’s hoping OKC can rebound and finish off the last four games of the homestand with purpose and pride.

Next up: Wednesday vs. Utah.

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4razr
4razr 5pts

@cdub00
There's no need to denigrate people's intelligence or baketball knowledge. You sound as though you believe you are more intelligent or better informed because you agree with the authorities, as though those in authority can never be wrong. Fortunately, we live in a free society. Others in this forum would probably take you more seriously if you backed up your argument with basketball-related commentary and strategic analysis rather than with appeals to authority.

As far as Harden goes, I have since last year believed JH should be starting on this team, both as it was constructed before the trade and after. Justin has given a good account of why this could be beneficial, which I agree with. What I would add is that the reason to do this is not for the regular season, or even necessarily for this post-season. The reason I see is that in the playoffs a team has got to get it's best group on the floor, and have them function at a high level of efficiency. I believe the starters with JH will prove to be the best 5, and they need time on the court together to figure it out as well as coaching to take advantage of what they bring. Even if the change were to cost us a few games this season (which is possible but seems unlikely), or to cause us to struggle a bit in the postseason, to me, it would be worthwhile for the long run, because I want the team to be building at all times toward the goal of a championship. The efficiency of the team with subs, or the mythical second unit, is less important than the efficiency of the best lineup (or maybe the best two or three), especially in the post-season. The ability of the "second team" to hold or extend leads against also-rans in the regular season is meaningless. When the game tightens up in the playoffs, and the team has to run efficient offense, the best unit needs to know how to play together, and the time is now to get them out there together as much as possible.

The conservative approach would be to keep the current starting lineup together and follow the motto, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm arguing against that approach. The risk of making the change now is that it disrupts the team's comfort with what is currently working and costs a few wins (or, I suppose, a playoff series). But when "working" includes losing to the Raptors, how much is really being risked by making the change now? To me, failing to make the change now amounts to an argument that the current starting lineup is best for the long term as well as the short term. I don't believe there is any scenario in which a starting unit with Thabo is best for the long-term prospects of the team. Therefore, I want to see a change made now and begin the process of figuring it out. I don't want to wait for the summer, because I don't see the point. To me, it is just wasted opportunity.

lafowler255
lafowler255 5pts

@Dantheman44
KD scoring 30 doesnt determine if he had a good game or not... 2 or 3 games since the trade he hasnt played in the 4th quarter. Stats only dont deteremine greatness

Dantheman44
Dantheman44 5pts

what is wrong with kevin durant lately? only has one 30 point game since the trade against washington. had a good game against miami but thats it. he seems to be getting worse each passing game, he better watch out or he might even loose the scoring championship because his scoring has come down so much. they cant have him struggling going in the playoffs.

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

Patrick James :@Justin
I guess I just trust Presti/Brooks to understand why the team wins and loses over you or myself. I can see their results and I like what I see.
It’s OK to disagree, you know. I’m willing to wait and see if I’m right or not as opposed to just declaring that I’m right, directly or indirectly.

He said what I would say if hadn't already been said.

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

Well then. Sounds like you have gotten it all out now. Thanks for straightening me out.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@cdub00
It's a freaking internet forum! It is designed to post opinions on this team! Of course my postings are meaningless...as are yours. They are for discussion...Arrrgggggghhhh....

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

@kfmsooner

Do you feel better now? Wow. Sounds like I struck a nerve. If you feel validated by posting your meaningless comments - FEEL FREE!!!!

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@cdub00
When have I claimed to be an expert? Take or leave my opinion. I am a fan. I disagreed with Patrick James opinion - who is, BTW, not an assistant coach. I have disagreed with justin, Sammy, Mark!, f5alcon, and others. It's a fan forum where we discuss our team. Some good, some bad...

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@cdub00
You rest your case on a totally invalid and meaningless point? You rest your case with the idea that this forum is only for Scott Brooks and his assistants to talk to the fans?

We are fans and we get to express our opinions.

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

@kfmsooner

No, u just shouldn't think that said opinion makes you an expert on the matter.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@cdub00
So if I have an opinion I can't express it unless I am employed as a coach or assistant coach?

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

justin :@cdub00
Whoops, we aren’t coaches. Guess that invalidates everyone’s opinion. Might as well close this comments section.

And it only invalidates the wise guys that constantly think they are smarter than the head coach of OUR team. I rest my case.

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

@justin

Way to blow off a valid point. U look REAL smart now! :)

justin
justin 5pts

@cdub00

Whoops, we aren't coaches. Guess that invalidates everyone's opinion. Might as well close this comments section.

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

@justin

touche

Harden isn't a starter, atleast not yet. As I have said before, if any person on this forum is SO FRIGGIN SMART - WHY AREN'T THEY THE COACH or atleast AN ASSISTANT COACH?????????????? Exactly. :)

Patrick James
Patrick James 5pts

@kfmsooner

Actually I don't read them every day. Usually just on Fridays when I have more time and on the stuff I write.

It's cool man. We just disagree. Disagreement is healthy. I'm willing to accept I may be wrong, but we don't know who's right yet.

Patrick James
Patrick James 5pts

@Justin

I guess I just trust Presti/Brooks to understand why the team wins and loses over you or myself. I can see their results and I like what I see.

It's OK to disagree, you know. I'm willing to wait and see if I'm right or not as opposed to just declaring that I'm right, directly or indirectly.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@cdub00
Guilty of what? I don't understand what that means. I'm guilty of wanting a better play to start over a lesser player?

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

Patrick James :@Justin@kfmsooner
Sigh. I give up.
Some people get upset after one bad loss, some people wait to get upset and pass judgment (if necessary) after the season is over. I’m in the latter group. It’s more fun, trust me.

I know you read the forums every day, Patrick. I said the same thing after big wins, close wins, close losses, blowout losses. It is not a knee-jerk reaction to this loss. Russ was the bigger contributor to our loss last night than the JH/Thabo argument. My comments about JH really have nothing to do with the Raptors...

CJ Noonan
CJ Noonan 5pts

I have officially come full circle. I now agree...Harden needs to start. I like Thabo, but that was just ugly last night. As mentioned above, there is no reason why he can't still play with the second unit as well. He needs at least 35 min. per game. Lets get the rotation right before the playoffs! KD, RW, and JH need to play more together. And move the frickin ball would ya fellas! Last night looked like we took the Heat's losing script and wanted to see if it worked. It Doesn't!

justin
justin 5pts

I am guilty of thinking, sorry. :)

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

The peeps that are the first to stand up and defend themselves are usually the guiltiest..just sayin'.

justin
justin 5pts

It's also not always about wins and losses, it's about what makes the team better - and understanding why the team wins and loses.

justin
justin 5pts

@Patrick James

I've been firmly in the 'start Harden' camp since last year, so I dunno what you're talking about...

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

@Patrick James

**Golf Clap** Thank you Patrick. That is exactly what I am saying. It is REALLY EASY to WAY OVER REACT to one bad loss. Take it on the chin and move on Thunder, you're better for it! Would I have preferred to win? Sure. But I would rather this comes now and not against Portland or Denver in the coming games. Lets get the crabby patties out of our systems now and be ready to throw bows when the big boys come to town! Brooks is the coach and not anybody on this forum for a reason. 'Nuff said.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@kfmsooner
kelsey

Patrick James
Patrick James 5pts

@Justin@kfmsooner

Sigh. I give up.

Some people get upset after one bad loss, some people wait to get upset and pass judgment (if necessary) after the season is over. I'm in the latter group. It's more fun, trust me.

Patrick James
Patrick James 5pts

@kfmsooner

I get that and you might be right. The way Jeff Green rotated in and out might be the answer. I'm just more willing to be patient while the staff works things out. The Thunder hasn't exactly disappointed in OKC, have they? Were people expecting 60+ wins and the top seed this year? This formula is not for an easy bake title like Miami '06 -- which was followed by some tough seasons later, mind you. Building a 10-year contender, like the Spurs, is different. Presti, Brooks etc. are being paid to take the long view and not be knee-jerk.

justin
justin 5pts

@Patrick James

Did you copy and paste this baloney from a Jeff Green thread or something? We've had almost a month watching this offense play without floor stretches in the starting lineup, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out how playing basketball with no shooters on the floor will work out.

OK, continuity. Fine. Don't make the change now because you might hurt Thabo's feelings and chemistry goes haywire. That doesn't mean you've got to abandon basketball sense (and common sense) in these discussions.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@Patrick James
"Armchair coaches/GMs who think they can solve the team’s problems with a switch to the starting lineup or whatever are blowing smoke."

So...how is Serge doing as the starting PF? Didn't we call for that all season? 9.8 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 3.5 bpg sinc the trade, and he's still learning. If he had been the starting PF for the season, he might have progressed even more by now.

"The pot is still simmering for the Thunder. Patience is a virtue." said Kevin Pritchard...Why can't we win now? Why can't we make a run? Why can't the best players be on the floor at the same time? I don't buy the Berry Tramel we-have-to-pay-our-dues crap. If we have the better team, let's go win the thing. I just feel that if JH plays 30 minutes per night instead of 36-38, we are leaving a coupld of bullets in the gun.

"It’s easy to overreact to one bad loss." I've been calling for JH to start for a year and a half...

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@f5alcon
Nice...who is it this week?

Patrick James
Patrick James 5pts

@Justin

This team was a work in progress before the trade, and that's even more the case now. Armchair coaches/GMs who think they can solve the team's problems with a switch to the starting lineup or whatever are blowing smoke. It's going to take time to figure out the right combinations and rotations. For now I'll take a 50+ win team that has a chance to be dangerous in the playoffs. The pot is still simmering for the Thunder. Patience is a virtue. There is no quick and obvious fix -- if there was, the basketball minds who are smarter than us and whose paychecks are signed by Clay Bennett would have "fixed" it by now. It's easy to overreact to one bad loss.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@justin
Glad to finally get some backup here...I still don't get how playing JH more minutes would hurt this team right now...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@justin
i think the majority of people on here want harden to start

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@Patrick James
I'm not making an argument as to whether Harden should start or not. What I am saying is that the idea that IF Harden starts, he can't play with the 2nd unit. Are you saying that if Harden starts, he cannot play with the 2nd unit? Jeff Green used to do it...The Thunder do not sub in 5 at a time...

I'm not sure what you mean by 'the bulk of the minutes'. Thabo still averages 25 minutes a game, post trade, and Harden spends a good amount of time at the '3' with DC playing the '2'. Harden gets 30.1 mpg since the trade. Another 6 minutes on court should not be a problem for him to handle.

Last, I also dislike the Ginobli argument. The other wings that started/played with Manu were Steve Smith, Stephen Jackson, Brent Barry, Bowen, Finley, Turkoglu. Thabo is not as good as any of those guys. If, say, Aaron Afflalo was our starting 2 guard, I'd be OK with JH starting on the bench...

justin
justin 5pts

@Patrick James

Ugh! Manu Ginobili played on a Spurs team that had enough offense and defense in their starting lineup so they could bring him off the bench. The Thunder do not have that luxury.

This is the same kind of rationalization that kept Jeff Green as the starting PF for a year and a half. Is it something about OKC that they are resistant to change? Seriously....

justin
justin 5pts

The 27th ranked defense in the league just zoned up and completely neutralized us for much of this game, and there are still people here that want James Harden to come off the bench?

Harden's playing like a Top 5 SG in the league this month. Did you know he's now 11th in the NBA among SG's in PER? Teams like Dallas and Denver can afford to keep their starting quality SG's on the bench (Terry, Smith) because their starting lineups don't have a problem scoring.

Patrick James
Patrick James 5pts

@kfmsooner

I disagree with most of your arguments. Harden already gets the bulk of the minutes at the two and plays in crunch time, so I don't know what difference starting would make. He's also most effective when he's the first scoring option. It'll take an offseason for the coaches to really have time to figure how to best use him with Russ and KD. Manu Ginobli is Exhibit A as evidence that a top three player can come off the bench for a contender.

@Daniel Hawaii

Thanks. Royce and I go back a ways and learned from the same folks.

(btw, reason why there was no picture is that Royce does that and actually puts the posts up, and he was away last night. I'm guessing he had to approve the post with his phone.)

lafowler255
lafowler255 5pts

@kfmsooner
The Celtics actually rotate more then you think that was the main reason they wanted Jeff Green so they could rest their big 3 and they wouldnt have to play so many minutes. MIA big 3 play dang near 40+ minutes each and it shows at the end of close games. Which is why they arent as good and they will almost totally rely on bailout fouls.

MIA bench gets out scored all the time and sometimes in staggering numbers. Celtics bench > MIA bench.

Against good teams your bench can loose leads and make games closer then they should be. Until there is another offensive threat to come off the bench No matter if you you want him to start I dont think it will happen. IMO

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@lafowler255
Miami is a good comparison on rotating their 3 stars. Maybe their 'system' is terrible. Boston does it with KG, RA, and PP. Orlando, Chicago...lots of teams have figured out how to start their best players and still balance their bench. Again, if you want Harden on the bench, fine. But you can't make the argument that if Harden starts, he can't play with the 2nd unit. It is 100% false.

lafowler255
lafowler255 5pts

Miami does not have a great "System" <---- what I meant to type

lafowler255
lafowler255 5pts

@kfmsooner
Miami does not a great team and their lack of a bench will be a huge issue for them for the next few years. They should never be a comparison for any team to follow.

Brooks should have kept calling Hardens # even when KD and Russ checked back in the game. Even though KD started going off Harden was on fire and was shooting higher percentage shots and finding the open man on his drives.

I know its KDs team but Harden was killing them.

@OKC DarkHorse
KD the ball hog he is known as? What are you talking about? he is not the LeBron of this team where he alwasy has to have the ball in his hand. he scores a lot off of assist. And RW not being a PG?!?!

wow I dont know where to start on how wrong you are.

walrusmuse
walrusmuse 5pts

Bad loss. Ridiculous to say otherwise. We had the longest streak in the league last night and could have extended it. Of course good teams lose to bad teams, especially when bad teams play well occasionally. TOR shot well, and had a decent mismatch in Barg and a shooter in Barbossa but we lost this game because we played poorly, not because TOR played astoundingly well.

I wish Harden would start just because he has earned it more than anyone on the team, and by staggering rotations he can still lead the bench too.

We saw last night how harmful it is fir KD and RW to not mind JH when they are on the floor in crunch time. They have to keep their heads up fr him-especially on last shots.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

@Mark!

What I'm looking at is that we're already doing somewhat of a staggered rotation and it isn't clear that Harden with KD/Russ is any kind of difference-maker. Or rather, it isn't as big of a difference-maker as Harden playing with the 2nd team. I want to be clear...I am VERY pro-Harden. I want him to have as many touches as possible. I think we're all like that. We only differ on our opinions as to whether Harden will get more significant touches with the first team or the second team. Here's how I see things: Let's say that the first team gets 30 touches. 10 will go to KD and 10 will go to Russ. That leaves the other 10 to be divided between Serge, Perk, and Thabo. Let's say that the second team only gets 20 touches. 10 of those go to Harden and the other 10 are distributed over Maynor, Cook, Collison, and Nazr. Under this system, KD, Russ, and Harden each get 10 touches. If Harden moves to the first team, his number of touches either gets cut in half or else they come at the cost of fewer touches for Russ and KD (which I'm not convinced is a good thing).

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@TaoMaas
Again, if you want Harden on the bench, that's fine. What I am saying is the "But I’m in the camp that likes where he is because of the scoring punch he provides with the second unit and the chemistry that the second unit has in general" argument is ridiculous. There is no reason that Harden can't do both. Teams all over the NBA do it.

Harden = Thabo w/benefits? Harden is much better than this. The future of this team, probably for the next 4 years, at least, is RW/JH/KD/SI/KP. They need to play together, and play a lot. RW and KD need to learn to pay with JH now. I think a lot of it is RW being Russ the Hero b.c he doesn't have a lot of offensive help outside KD on the starting unit. JH could help this, they just need time together.

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

@TaoMaas

The 2nd unit has to save us because the 1st unit is getting beat. Should we leave the starting unit as is?

Harden doesn't have the same number of reps with the 1st unit as he does the 2nd unit, should we expect him to perform at the same level from the start?

1st team vs 2nd team is an abstract construction. We don't make 5-in/5-out substitutions. The rotations can be staggered and Harden can put in a fair amount of time w/ the "2nd unit" even if he starts.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

@kfmsooner

Harden has played enough with the starting unit for everyone to be able to make a determination as to whether or not this is the the group of players we should be starting. The problem is...it's not that obvious. Why not? Well, if anyone is really watching the games, they'd see that it's because Harden on the first team isn't the same player as Harden on the second team. The 'second team' Harden controls the game. He's just a beast! The 'first team' Harden is "Thabo w/benefits". Some people want to make the argument that the 2nd team isn't important. Is that true for the Thunder? Not from what I've been seeing. What I see is that the 2nd team is often the only thing that keeps the Thunder from being blown out. It may not be ideal, but it is reality.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@OKC DarkHorse
Russ is our PG, and a great one. He is onle a week or two removed from Western Conf Player of the Week. He does need to get back to Russ the Distributor and not Russ the Hero...

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

"I know there’s a strong feeling from a lot of folks that Harden needs to start. But I’m in the camp that likes where he is because of the scoring punch he provides with the second unit and the chemistry that the second unit has in general."

Can we get past this point? If you don't want Harden starting, that's fine. But this argument is so aggravating that I hate posting the repsonse after every game. Harden can start AND provide 'the scoring punch' with the 2nd unit. Jeff Green did it. Miami rotates Bron, Wade and Bosh so that one of them is always on the floor. Can you imagine Chris Bosh not starting so he can 'anchor the second unit'?

We need our best unit on the floor as much as possible. JH is now our 3rd best player.

OKC DarkHorse
OKC DarkHorse 5pts

Reading some of the comments and Harden is good but if we had A Real Pg and russ to Sg we would be way better Russ should be able to handle most of the Sg's cause of his strength and Length he plays like a sg so let him be one and help our team more

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