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Ten ideas for defending Dirk

by Royce Young on May 18, 2011 at 2:05 pm 73 Comments

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If you haven’t heard, Dirk Nowitzki is good at the basketballing activities. So good that he can score 48 points with only 15 shots. You’ve heard that stat about two hundred times already I’m sure, but still, it’s worth repeating. Because it’s pretty much insane.

Clearly, the Thunder need to do something different. I said before the series that really the best defense against Dirk is just hoping he misses, but 48 on 15 shots is ridiculous. Serge Ibaka actually did a relatively good job on him in terms of going by the book. He played him fairly physical, contested everything and pushed him away from the lane. Didn’t matter though.

I liked what Scott Brooks said after the game in how he told Ibaka not to get demoralized if Dirk started Dirking him: “When I did say that, I didn’t think he was going to make (that) many shots.”

The Thunder are likely spending all day figuring out a new and improved plan for guarding the big German. They only had one day to prepare after Game 7 against Memphis, so with the extra time, they’re going to come up with something. I came up with 10 ideas. I’m not saying they’re brilliant or revolutionary or anything, but I’m just joining in on the brainstorming.

Don’t foul him. Just don’t do it. Your chances of stopping him are much better if you just give him an open jumper than if you foul him and let him shoot two free throws. On the season, Dirk shot 51.7 percent from the floor. He shot 89.2 percent from the line. Last night’s not the best example but still, he shot 80 percent from the floor compared to 100 percent from the line. Play those percentages.

It was obvious the Thunder weren’t allowed to play rough with Dirk at all and that’s going to have to be an adjustment. Against Memphis, OKC’s defenders basically just stopped short of wrapping Z-Bo up powerbombing him. Against Dirk, a little heavy bumping was called a foul. Maybe that changes in Game 2, but if not, the Thunder are just going to have to play Dirk a bit more straight up.

Keep him off his spots. You’ll notice that Dirk has places on the floor he likes to be. It’s easier said than done, but moving Dirk off the baselines and to the top of the key where it’s easier to help is ideal. I think where the Thunder went wrong is that they tried to play Dirk physical once he had the ball. I think they need to get nastier with him before he catches it. Make sure when he catches it, he’s closer to the 3-point line than the paint. Dirk has places on the floor that he wants to be and when he’s there, it’s all over for you.

Take a tire iron to his knee like he’s Nancy Kerrigan. This would be my plan. And if Dirk keeps humiliating Serge Ibaka, it might become his plan too.

Get closer. Dirk’s a lot like Zach Randolph is a way. They both want to get isolation and once they do, they possess a jumper that comes so high off their head that you can’t contest it well, much less block it. Now of course Dirk is a far, far better shooter than Z-Bo, but you get the idea. The Thunder adjusted right away to start Game 2 to really get up inside Randolph when he had the ball. Dirk’s got a quicker release and doesn’t need as much space to shoot over someone as Randolph, but giving Dirk any kind of space just invites him to shoot.

Don’t double. I’m not a fan of this. At least not in a philosophical way. I don’t think the adjustment to make it to just start doubling Dirk on every catch. He passes too well out of it and the Mavs have too many shooters to hurt you. I don’t mind a double when it makes sense (like Russell Westbrook or Thabo digging down off their man) but in terms of committing to it, I don’t think it’ll help that much. Maybe now Dirk’s not the one killing you, but the other four players on the floor will.

For instance, enjoy this quote from Jason Terry on it: “I’ll be licking my chops.”

Go at him more offensively. Ibaka got loose for a number of dunks, but the Thunder never really attacked Dirk. He finished the game without any sort of foul trouble, which is kind of inexcusable. Dirk’s not a player prone to fouling, but still, at least force him to play defense. The more he has to guard, the more he has to work. And the more chance there is he’ll pick up a bad second foul early and have to sit a little longer than usual.

Get totally crazy. Here’s an idea and yes, I realize it’s a pretty dumb and bad one. But what about trying Byron Mullens on Dirk a bit? Mullens is 7-1, athletic and strong enough to push on Dirk. You lose a lot offensively and in rebounding, but Mullens has the physical makeup to be a Dirk stopper. Great length, great size, athletic and quick enough to guard him off the dribble. It’s a bad idea, but it’s not a horrible idea. Plus, it’s the element of surprise. No way Dirk would be expecting that one, right?

And yes, at this point, I’m getting desperate.

Front him. I don’t entirely love the idea of fronting Dirk because Dallas’s offense is such that the ball doesn’t have to go through Dirk. He’s completely fine playing decoy on some possessions. And when you front, that means two things happen: 1) A second defender has to be on the ball and ready to help defend and 2) If that person is someone like Perk, there’s a good chance we’ll see 10 defensive three second calls against OKC.

But the absolute best way to keep Dirk from scoring is to keep him from getting the ball. It’s kind of hard to score when you don’t have the ball. Brilliant, I know. I think I learned that at a basketball camp in third grade.

Defend the pick-and-roll smarter. Most of the time the way Dallas gets the ball to Dirk is in the screen-and-roll. Especially with J.J. Barea. The Thunder was so afraid of Dirk rolling off and getting to a spot that they sort of forgot about Barea and his speed and let him go crazy. The Lakers battled the same issue.

OKC has to hedge a lot harder on those, which is something Nick Collison might be the best in the league at doing. Ibaka played the pick-and-roll pretty lightly and Barea’s man (Nate Robinson in some situations) didn’t do well at all sensing the screen and moving through.

The Mavs screen-and-roll game completely neutralizes Ibaka as a shot-blocker. He can’t block Dirk and when he’s pulled so far out to defend Dirk, Barea has a free path right to the rim with nobody waiting. You can’t leave Dirk, but you can’t give Barea an open lane. Maybe a solution would be to play Collison and Ibaka together more. Worth a shot.

Hope he misses. I still maintain this is the best defensive strategy.

Obviously the Thunder have to make some changes in the way they approach Dirk. They had to do the same thing with Randolph after Game 1 against Memphis. Brooks and his staff did a nice job and figured out a better way to handle Z-Bo. Dirk’s a better player and a tougher cover, but it’s not impossible. OKC can survive Dirk being great, but probably not him scoring 48 on 15 shots. I don’t think Dirk will get near as many free throws in Game 2, but the Thunder have to do better. You can’t just gift points to Dirk and the Mavs. You’re not going to stop Dirk so much, but you can limit him and put it on the other four Mavs on the floor to beat you.

Or just hope he misses.

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cdub00
cdub00 5pts

I wonder what happened to Justin's "anybody but Thabo approach" in regards to our rotation. Call me a Thabo apologist if you want, but Thabo is 1,000,000 times better at defending and setting up teammates by playing D than Nate Robinson. Is Brooks starting to listen to the haters? :)

bblake
bblake 5pts

anonymous :I may be totally wrong on this, but I think KD does have the ability to bother Dirk with his length..

I agree, KD would give Dirk a challenge, the way LaMarcus Aldridge did. However, the last thing you want is your leading scorer having to chase around the other team's leading scorer. You want KD's focus and energy on the offensive side of the floor.

Heysloth
Heysloth 5pts

@jh72035

I am pretty certain he was just joking

bblake
bblake 5pts

@Daniel Plainview
Well, Terry did not have anywhere near the game of his life. He was a little cold in the first half, and he can lay 30 on youu. Barea played really well, but he's capable of scoring near 20. Dirk and KD both had incredible games. I think those two, like Barkley said, are just going to cancel each other out. The issue with Dallas, is that they have quite a few guys that can score 20+ on a given night. This is going to be a great series.

jh72035
jh72035 5pts

"Take a tire iron to his knee like he’s Nancy Kerrigan" ????? Are you advocating injuring Dirk? Shame on you, Royce. I'm a longtime Mavs fan but I do like the Thunder, especially Durant. And I have OKC roots. But encouraging the Thunder to play dirty is not the kind of influence that your young team needs. FYI - the Thunder are not going to stop Dirk. And Perkins needs to be reigned in. We're only 1 game in and that guy already looks like a loose cannon. Could there be a repeat of Artest/ Odom/Bynum behavior?

dudeman
dudeman 5pts

I agree with Hawaii. Be conservative and assume forty points a game are out the door. Focus on stopping everyone - anyone - else. Don't double. Try not to foul. Make Dirk play defense and wear him out when they go zone. If he gets forty instead of, say, forty-eight - and we contain Barea or Terry - we win Game One.

Also, this picture cracks me up. Dirk is crouching. Nate is jumping. And they're about the same height.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

I still think the best strategy is to let Dirk get his, and focus on stopping everyone else. Put a hand in the face of Dirk on his jump shots and don't foul him. Also, don't double team him, which leaves 3-point shooters wide open. If Dirk is going to beat us all by himself by making contested jump shots, then so be it.

And most importantly, NO NATE ROBINSON IN KEY 4TH QUARTER MINUTES THIS TIME, SCOTT BROOKS.

walrusmuse
walrusmuse 5pts

I'm not totally opposed to the Mullens idea, but then again, as soon as i think that i slap myself. but seriously, it could be a weird throw off. but really, probably not.

getting him off his spots if possible, hounding Kidd more, and Ibaka just being a beast on offense-even if just running around, these are more likely.

oh yeah, and him not having another historic night. He'll likely be ridiculously awesome all playoffs, but he won't do that again.

Daniel Plainview
Daniel Plainview 5pts

Dirk has game of century, Barea and terry games of their lives, Russ worst game of his career and teh game came down to a Sef bumble of teh ball and a miss by Nate for a tie game. When nature nbalances these averages, well become victors

BROklahoma
BROklahoma 5pts

i know it's been mentioned multiple times but the future durant looks extremely scary? right now he's at least on par in scoring development with dirk. If he gets a post game and some muscle, like dirk... un.stop.able.

ultimatesooner
ultimatesooner 5pts

I just farted and Dirks going to the line to shoot 2

Crow
Crow 5pts

In 7 of the Mavs' recent losses in the last 2 months to quality opponents, Dirk only shot semi-poorly (around 40-42%) in 2. In all of them though at least 2 of the main 4 guards for the Mavs shot poorly or very poorly. Probably easier to get poor shooting from Kidd, Stevenson, Barea and Terry than Dirk.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Dirk was under 40% FG against Patterson, from his play and / or randomness.

Brand did well (under 50% FG) on Dirk also.

Crow
Crow 5pts

True. That didn't work.

I see a similar sized Patrick Patterson did well in his first few match-ups with Dirk. Whether that was beginner's luck or a better set of instructions from the coaching staff I don't know.

Daniel Plainview
Daniel Plainview 5pts

Diks points/game was 25, hell come back

Sammy
Sammy 5pts

@Crow
Jeff Green was the primary defender on Dirk for the vast majority of those 4 years...

Daniel Plainview
Daniel Plainview 5pts

Randolph went large in game one and everyone panicked. We will win game 2, chill

Crow
Crow 5pts

probably should have said: A later shot by Dirk is better FG% wise "for the defense" than an early one.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Not to mention Jason Terry had 24 pt. Just sayin

Crow
Crow 5pts

Whatever they've tried it really hasn't worked against Dirk and not just last game but long-term. The Thunder have one of the least successful records at directly containing Dirk over the last 4 years. It appears New Jersey, Philly and Houston are among the few who have done well on this. Maybe watch what they did and change to that if it is different .

Repeating and / or modifying some of what has been said before:

No fouls outside of 5 feet.

More Collison.

Pick-up Kidd up in backcourt and / or at half court and try to burn 3-5 extra seconds off the shotclock. A later shot by Dirk is better FG% wise than an early one.

Make preventing the Kidd to Dirk pass and the Kidd-Dirk pick n roll set=up your top defensive priorities. Double Kidd some with Thabo. If Russ is not giving enough pressure put Thabo on Kidd full-time. Double or sort of double Dirk before Kidd gets to the top of the key to try to prevent the pass or pick n roll then pass.

Get Kidd in foul trouble if possible. He is the most important part of Dirk that is not Dirk himself.

Double Dirk’s first catch to burn clock most of the time and whenever Stevenson is on the court using his defender.

Run.

In the half court Ibaka should be constantly moving to try to take some of Dirk's energy / legs.

Set picks on Dirk as much as you can without whistles, even if you have no intention to use them.

Watch the Portland on Dirk playoff tape. Gerald Wallace on Dirk as well as Aldridge.

Play for the steal not the shot disruption. Especially before you are in the penalty. 1 steal is worth as much as knocking his FG% by 10 percentage points on 5 shots. Play for the steal on certain other guys too.

Hit the defensive glass. No second shots for Dallas, especially Dirk.

Cut down on fouls on anybody else to reduce the impact of the penalty.

Can’t do it now, but maybe should have used the 15th roster spot on another tough mobile forward instead a wing shooter who will never play.

HaHaSillygnome
HaHaSillygnome 5pts

@TempBoy Brandon

Funny thing is KD is only averaging a couple more points than Dirk per game. Another 40 point game this series is not likely either, but here's to wishful thinking.

Dunkin'Durant
Dunkin'Durant 5pts

Have NateRob stand behind Dirk's fade-away and take the backwards charge.

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

Vince :

Thunderman :
Keep thabo in front of Dirk and perkins behind Dirk and sandwich him to keep him from getting the ball.

Then you’re leaving open a good jump shooter. You can get away with this if Stevenson is on the floor, but giving wide-open 3′s to Terry and Peja is the price you’ll pay for this. It’s really a pick-your-poison type of thing. Bear in mind that if Dirk goes 8-for-15 (which is still not bad) instead of 12-for-15 it’s a one-point game on the road. And whether we adjust, or the refs do, Dirk isn’t hitting 24 FT’s again in this series.

I agree with the pick your poison but if your just simply trying to shut down Nowitzki that's what I would do.

Vince
Vince 5pts

@justin
30 points on 20 shots, 7.5 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.1 BLK, .8 STL, only 2 turnovers/game.

What's great is that one of these years he's going to put a 35/9/6. He's got the tools.

Vince
Vince 5pts

Thunderman :
Keep thabo in front of Dirk and perkins behind Dirk and sandwich him to keep him from getting the ball.

Then you're leaving open a good jump shooter. You can get away with this if Stevenson is on the floor, but giving wide-open 3's to Terry and Peja is the price you'll pay for this. It's really a pick-your-poison type of thing. Bear in mind that if Dirk goes 8-for-15 (which is still not bad) instead of 12-for-15 it's a one-point game on the road. And whether we adjust, or the refs do, Dirk isn't hitting 24 FT's again in this series.

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

Keep thabo in front of Dirk and perkins behind Dirk and sandwich him to keep him from getting the ball.

gr8ball83
gr8ball83 5pts

@JJJ
More shocking than 48 points on 15 shots in my opinion.

justin
justin 5pts

Durant's having an incredible playoffs.

JJJ
JJJ 5pts

Breaking news: Perk doesn't like Chandler

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6563701

Mark!
Mark! 5pts

@james1

Can't have KD guarding Dirk. If KD gets in foul trouble, we're hosed.

divisadero
divisadero 5pts

anonymous :Don’t discount the ‘kidnapping David Hasselhoff and holding him for ransom in order to force Dirk to miss at least 1 FT a game’ strategy.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

james1
james1 5pts

Take Ibaka off him and let him defend the rim. Ibaka isn't good on the ball anyway and that's taking away one of our best defensive presences. He's not making all those layups if Ibaka is back there waiting for him. Use Collison, KD and Sef to defend Dirk on the ball. Have Sef be physical but don't foul/reach.

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

If we can hold Dirk to his season average and play hard like we did last night we have a favorable chance to win!

Perkins Game Face
Perkins Game Face 5pts

We can't double cause it'll be with a guard and dirk will just pass out of it and hit the open man. We can't trade 2's for 3's. Adjust like we did to Memphis after game 1 and try and prevent him from him getting the ball and when he does crowd him as much as possible. I agree that stop Barrea and everyone else should be the bigger priority. Perk getting illegal calls was dumb. Why is he shading over to dirk for? Stay on Chandler or haywood and keep them off the boards.

Joshua G
Joshua G 5pts

@Royce Young
Is there anyway you can see where he was fouled? I would bet that most of those are in exactly the same spot.

gr8ball83
gr8ball83 5pts

@TempBoy Brandon
Another funny thing, we did the exact same freaking out when Randolph torched us in Game 1. I could deal with a similar end result.

Joshua G
Joshua G 5pts

Just looked at the play by play again and sorted it.

12-15 is insane, but his total points/scoring opportunity. Take out his single and-1 and the three technical free throws, and he had 10 2-shot free throws. That means he went 22-25 in scoring opportunities!! No way that happens again.

Royce Young
Royce Young 5pts

To my point, look at Dirk's shot chart. Every shot right where he wanted it.

http://bit.ly/kqbEid

Beardhawk
Beardhawk 5pts

@TempBoy Brandon

That's what fans should keep in mind. He's not likely to have another performance like that in this series. That doesn't mean he won't get his, but it's not statistically likely to happen again.

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts

The funny thing is, as much as we're freaking out about Dirk, he consistently averages 25 points a game. This 48 point thing was an anamoly and was a combination of a career shooting night and heavily assisted with foul calls. KD is as big a problem to them as Dirk is to us.

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

Jeff van gunny now saying officiating wasn't Good.

He said Joey gets angry with players. They show clip of thabo just putting his chest on Dirks back and reaching for the ball(then whistle) and then Dirk patting the ref on the back. Lol.

Refs called a good game huh?

DSYIII
DSYIII 5pts

We can't double or we'll go down in straight games like the Lakers. We need to stop barea, not dirk. Dirk had the best game he could have and we only lost by 9. If we can keep barea and terry under check we'll be fine (especially once we get home and can be more physical with dirk). Play nick on dirk as much as possible. Play russ 48 minutes so he can check barea and ask him not to try and score unless it's in transition. Play nick and serge together as much as possible. Play small with KD at the four down the stretch if he doesn't have many fouls. Ask perk to do his best to get chandler ejected. It's not time to panic yet.

Hawaiian Rob
Hawaiian Rob 5pts

If they take away his air space, they got to get help if he drives. I didnt watch the highlights or rewatch the game cause I didnt want to see dirk torch us and the touch fouls. But it seems that the defender has to overcommit so hard in order to take his fadeaway and because of his length that theres no way for us to get back if he decides to make a move towards the rim. And when he did, there wasnt much help on defense which led the defenders to maybe give them a little more space then they wanted. The touch fouls didnt help either.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Thabo is to slow. He wont even be able to get close enough to use his size. Nate couldnt even use his toughness because he couldnt even stay in front.

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

@okc baby
I don't really think so. Thabo is a large obsticle and I think he's just quick enough stay in front of JJ.

The alternative is to hedge off of Dirk a little better. But, um, I don't think anyone wants to do that.....

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Barea will run circles around Thabo.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Now you want to put Ivey out there. hahaha It keeps getting better. How bout trapping him at the top and not going small ball down low:0

I Am The Reign
I Am The Reign 5pts

Along the same lines as "prevent Dirk from getting the ball": Along with having Dirk's man playing d like memphis played kd (trying to impregnate him) consider having russell separate their guard and dirk, instead of closing off the lane. Obviously an open lane is bad, but at least it would give a chance to defend.

Oh, and since flagrants aren't being called I'm all for the tire iron approach.

Bryan
Bryan 5pts

Put Thabo on Barea. He's a better on-ball defender than either Maynor or Nate. I know he gives up some quickness, but he uses his length really well and can fight through Dirk's screens better. It's worth a shot, at least.

With respect to Dirk, I would show the refs early what a REAL foul looks like. After that, just be physical with him before the catch and try to get him off his spot. Otherwise, let him shoot contested shots.

I really wish we had the personnel to go big, if for no other reason than to improve the Thunder's slight rebounding advantage and to keep the Mavs' gaurd combos off the floor.

Beardhawk
Beardhawk 5pts

@Chris
I think that's the proper approach. Thunder obviously put him on the line too much, but if you force him to take say 8 to 10 more shots instead of putting him on the line, is he going to get 16 to 20 points out it? Not in most games.

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