Who is Reggie Jackson? He is not, in fact, Mr. October.
(I bet he just loves everybody making that connection.)
He played three years at Boston College, averaging 18.2 points and 4.5 assists per game his junior season. On top of that, he had some pretty nice percentages: 50.3 percent from the field, 42.0 percent from 3 and 79.6 percent from the free throw line. His junior year, he had an offensive rating of nearly 120. That’s impressive.
He’s long (6-3), super athletic and right-handed. Supposedly, the Miami Heat loved Jackson and wanted to get him at 31, but OKC sniped him, taking him at 24. Why is another question, but it is obvious: Jackson can play. Draft Express’s profile on him:
Though Jackson has been producing at a high-level as a passer and a scorer in the early going, he still has plenty of room to grow to become a legitimate point guard. The Colorado native shows great court vision, is not one to miss an open teammate to take his own shot, and has become extremely adept and scoring and passing in pick and roll situations, but spends a considerable amount of time off the ball where Steve Donahue can best exploit his scoring ability and give his team a dynamic athlete on the wing to complement Joe Trapani’s shot-up shooting and off-ball scoring ability.
Though Jackson looks good handling pressure and has developed into a very solid ball-handler, he isn’t relied upon exclusively to run Donahue’s offense as a facilitator or bring the ball up the floor regularly. While the pieces of the puzzle certainly seem to be there for the talented junior, the development of his draft stock will be influenced heavily by his ability to continue to improve his playmaking skills.
@ sammasaaron
Exactly, thanks
Free agency doesn't start til the new CBA gets signed.
Trades are allowed again after the regular season ends (under the old agreement), they just usually don't take place until right around the draft. They will stop on June 30th and not resume until the deal is made.
When did the free agency start? Do you think are we donig more trades?
Guille4s :
DizzDai :The way I see it…PG ~ Westbrook, Maynor, Jackson SG ~ Harden, Sefolosha, Jackson SF ~ Durant, Cook, Sefolosha PF ~ Ibaka, Collison C ~ Perkins, Mohammed, AldrichBye bye Nate and Royal. It’s been swell.Cook could be expendable if we get a SF/PF that can shoot.
Why don’t we pick it in the draft? J.Hamilton, Singler, Bertans…
Hamilton could have been the offensive spark plug, but is a clubhouse problem. He will fit in with Denver (who gives two craps about chemistry) perfectly. Singler isn't a shooter, or a good defensive player--In fact, I'm not really sure what makes him a good player. Bertans--I don't know why Presti wasn't enamored with him, but obviously he wasn't.
I think free agency is the right place to look for shooting SF/PF. I'd like Battier.
@ lafowler255
I don't think that's quite what Daniel means by sell high. He's not suggesting Maynor is anywhere near dropping off significantly, just that Maynor had a great year and a really good playoffs, so his value is the highest it's ever been right now. It's possible he could play even better this season, but it's also possible he could regress. The idea of dealing Maynor now is that it's unlikely we can keep him in the long term so why not trade him for good value rather than watch him walk in FA later. Not backing any option here, just trying to explain where the sell high talk is coming from.
Seriously the 5 point guard thing is overblown. We had 4 PGs last year and only 2 of them played. Now we have 5 pgs and still probably only 2 of them will play pg. Wait till the season. Stop freaking out
If Jackson has anything close to a 7' wingspan he can defend SG's, especially backups. I don't know what the fuss is about 'five PG's'. Ivey's probably gone, Nate doesn't play...
Our top 8 guys come back this year plus Nazr plus Cook, not many minutes anyway for anyone we draft. Not sure why everyone is worried about all the guards on our roster, a few of them will be in suits most games, we had two centers in suits last year not a big deal. Let them develop and play the best players.
@ DizzDai
i don't think cook or nazr are getting resigned. we need to save as much cap space as possible right now to retain rw,jh,and si.
@Daniel Plainview
Not going to happen, Russ will resign and Reg learn the NBA as Maynor finishes his contract or gets traded at some later date. Sell HI?!?! You act like Maynor is 35 and on his way out the league Maynor will still be Maynor 2 years from now probably more ready to start somewhere where we wont be able to afford to keep him.
Maynor is a point guard who has a great Assist to turnover ratio and if you follow the pattern of PGs like that Nash/Kidd there value doesnt drop at the age of 22 or whatever Maynor is.
Do we have any 2 guard or sf options in the d league that are ready to join the thunder? Thabo can play either the 2 or the 3. So, that leaves us some flexibility. I hope they don't plan on giving minutes to nate robinson at sg. He's fun to watch, but not an effective player. His defensive deficiencies outweigh his offense. I guess RJ could play sg, but i would rather develop him as a pg for when maynor or westbrook don't get resigned.
DizzDai :The way I see it…PG ~ Westbrook, Maynor, Jackson SG ~ Harden, Sefolosha, Jackson SF ~ Durant, Cook, Sefolosha PF ~ Ibaka, Collison C ~ Perkins, Mohammed, AldrichBye bye Nate and Royal. It’s been swell.Cook could be expendable if we get a SF/PF that can shoot.
Why don't we pick it in the draft? J.Hamilton, Singler, Bertans...
The way I see it...
PG ~ Westbrook, Maynor, Jackson
SG ~ Harden, Sefolosha, Jackson
SF ~ Durant, Cook, Sefolosha
PF ~ Ibaka, Collison
C ~ Perkins, Mohammed, Aldrich
Bye bye Nate and Royal. It's been swell.
Cook could be expendable if we get a SF/PF that can shoot.
Daniel Plainview : Look, I dont want Russ anywhere but here, but we have to ponder what he might be thinking...
I think all of these guys want to win it all and they've got as good a chance in OKC as anywhere in the league. I think Russ has no problem being the #2 guy to the league's leading scorer, as opposed to the #1 guy on a team that's going to struggle. I kinda felt the same way about Harden playing on the 2nd team. I think it was a much bigger deal to us than to him. Frankly, it looked to me like he and Maynor loved coming in and saving the first team's booty. lol
@ Ozarkhick Nate and Thabo, Cook ends contract, would you re-sign him?
@ Ozarkhick
I wish Jackson had went to the combine so we'd have video of some interviews + his measurements. That's a decent estimate for standing reach, but when it comes to the NBA, so many dudes are weird shaped.
For example, compare Jeff Green to Trevor Booker. Here's their height, wingspan, and standing reach:
Green: 6'9.5" / 7'1.25" / 8'7"
Booker: 6'7.5" / 6'9.75" / 8'10"
Booker has no neck and Green has an exceptionally tall head.
But I agree completely that Jackson shouldn't have any trouble playing SG off the bench. The criticism that he can't sounds a lot like criticism for criticism's sake. Did anyone here even watch a BCU game this year? I know I didn't. Just gotta have faith.
I don't think this pick says anything other than Presti drafted BPA, and that Reggie is a hard worker and has the personality characteristics that Presti looks for.
We're going to resign Westbrook and Maynor won't be traded before the season starts. Jackson isn't a threat or bargaining chip w/ Westbrook in any fashion. He's also not an immediate replacement for Maynor. If it turns out that way, it turns out that way, but I'd be surprised if Maynor is traded this season.
We needed an offensive backup GF and we needed some offense in the post. Drafting for need will bite you in the end. I'm glad Presti took the best player he felt was available, regardless of position.
People need to get over this "Reggie is 6'3" therefore he's not an SG business.
For a rough way of getting a player's "true height" :
Player's Height + (number of inches by which wingspan exceeds height/2) AND (subtract one inch if long necked) =
For Reggie that would be 6'3" + (9/2) - (longish but not really long neck - call it 1/2 inch) =
6'7". I see no reason he can't play SG.
I understand the replacement for maynor need be on a rookie scale, but like justin said, sell hi, well time is running out. id like to get a lotto fir maynor next year, if thats feasible.
Is Presti hoping Maynor improves even more so his value increases and we trade him before the deadline next year?
Possibly gettin Reg too might be a play AT Westbrook to see if he doesnt resign immediately after July 1st. I do believe Okc is Westbrooks first love but im sure he struggles with visions of being the no 1 option elsewere. Look, I dont want Russ anywhere but here, but we have to ponder what he might ne thinking, and if he doesnr.sihn that extension, Jackson makes much more sense
I don't see this as necessarily writing on the wall for Maynor.
PG : Westbrook/Maynor
SG : Harden/Jackson
SF : Durant/Cook for the 3 minutes Durant doesn't play
PF : Ibaka/Collie
C : Perkins/Naz or Cole
Hmmm... Seems I'm forgetting somebody here...
Daniel Plainview :
lafowler255 :I dont think its real hard to understand here. EM will still be the backup PG with Reggie(SG)/Cook/Thabo switching between SG/SF.Both Cook and Thabo have backed up KD at the 3 spot and Reggies length will help him at the 2. Just like Harden can bring the ball up the court and play PG Reggie will do the same thing from the bench.Maynor and RW have played out there at the same time so Maynor and Reggie will play at the same time. I dont see why this is complicated to understand.
As is, our depth at guards is as such, assuming Jharden startsPg: Russ, Maynor, Reggie, Nate, Ivey (prob gone) Sg: Harden, Thabo, Cook, ReggieEven if Thabo relegated to spot.duty (so dreamy), Jacks wrestling with Cook for min. Thabos earned his vut from the Rostrr while Cook deserves another year with an increase of minutes played, the latter to understand his true value. thanos celing has come and went. He is currently standing on it. Unless.we dont resign cook, which would be unfortunate, trade Maynor or keep Thabo on the Bench until he has to cahse Kobe and Wade arohnd, Jacksons not gonna see 8 min a game. Sad
I look at it like this:
This pick verifies that Harden WILL start next season.
Westbrook and Harden will start, Maynor will come off the bench as back up PG, and Reggie Jackson will come off the bench as a scoring spark as back up SG (much like Harden did this year - but not so many minutes)
Cook will play primarily as a specialist three pointer (not so much as KD back up as he did this year). He'll get extended minutes when the match ups call for it, or when Brooks wants to play small.
Sefolosha will play the 8-10 minutes a night as KD's back up, plus another 5-10 minutes a night as a specialist SG defender (when the match ups calls for it). He should play a limited role unless we're playing a team with an elite wing player that needs to be shut down.
Ivey and Robinson will continue the roles they filled this year (available for injury replacement and back up back ups).
IF KD was to go down for a few games, Harden would probably start in KD's role, Sefolosha would start as SG.
Saying that... I do see a scenario were Maynor is traded for a veteran SF that could be a consistent scoring threat as KD's back up.
@Daniel Plainview
Thabo and Cook have played SF as well, Nate is probably gone so all this talk about Maynor being traded even after Presti said he doesnt plan on it (anytime before his contract is up IMO) is pointless.
the interviews for brook and presti are up on nba.com where they talk about reggie. Brooks says he really impressed him with his abilities. Presti of course talks about adding depth to the team ect.
i think in the long run this decision will be well worth it.
Vut=cut
I'm not going to doubt Presti, who found Westbrook and Tony Parker, on a point guard selection. If Presti thinks this guy's going to be a star (and he may become one, considering his athleticism, skills, and excellent junior year) then team need goes out the window.
What if he turns out to be Gilbert Arenas in his prime, plus he plays defense? Can't pass on talent.
lafowler255 :I dont think its real hard to understand here. EM will still be the backup PG with Reggie(SG)/Cook/Thabo switching between SG/SF.Both Cook and Thabo have backed up KD at the 3 spot and Reggies length will help him at the 2. Just like Harden can bring the ball up the court and play PG Reggie will do the same thing from the bench.Maynor and RW have played out there at the same time so Maynor and Reggie will play at the same time. I dont see why this is complicated to understand.
As is, our depth at guards is as such, assuming Jharden starts
Pg: Russ, Maynor, Reggie, Nate, Ivey (prob gone)
Sg: Harden, Thabo, Cook, Reggie
Even if Thabo relegated to spot.duty (so dreamy), Jacks wrestling with Cook for min. Thabos earned his vut from the Rostrr while Cook deserves another year with an increase of minutes played, the latter to understand his true value. thanos celing has come and went. He is currently standing on it. Unless.we dont resign cook, which would be unfortunate, trade Maynor or keep Thabo on the Bench until he has to cahse Kobe and Wade arohnd, Jacksons not gonna see 8 min a game. Sad
Here's a Q&A with someone who watched Jackson in college from WelcometoLoudCity.com:
http://www.welcometoloudcity.com/2011/6/21/2235731/what-if-we-drafted-reggie-jackson-featuring-conrad-kaczmarek-of-bc
@ dragonbug
*scorer . bah i just woke up. :P
i can see reggie playing along side maynor off the bench, and no one said we had to have the same line ups OVER and over again. I believe presti sees another major scoring option here and wants to get him on the floor to space it better. If harden starts *which he deserves* we will need a good scorer coming off the bench. So unless thabo works on his offense over summer whom else will be a threat?
We can all speculate all we want, but im 300% confident in presti's move here. And i know some of you are crying but byron this :P yeah well, shit happens. Every player has potential to be great or just blah. Even Durant if he didnt work so hard and stuff could just be some average shooter in the nba instead of the leading score 2 years in a row.
The fact is, as someone pointed out in an earlier thread, Maynor doesn't make as much sense on our second unit anymore. Jackson was a good value at 24 and is a "Presti-type" player. Maybe he'll get some action this year as a combo guard off the bench as he learns the NBA point from Maynor and then eventually take over for him once we can't afford Maynor. With a bench unit that's likely to have Thabo/Cook, we need a point that can facilitate AND create his own shot. Hopefully, in a year or two, Jackson will be that guy so that we aren't frantically trying to fill the gaping hole left when Maynor moves on.
Presti should still work his magic and flip nate/ivey/mullens and even Cole if he doesnt improve
Iam not scared of the heat either. Hope this new cap agreement ruins their day:) Mavs still have some gas left. If they dont change things around.
I dont think its real hard to understand here. EM will still be the backup PG with Reggie(SG)/Cook/Thabo switching between SG/SF.
Both Cook and Thabo have backed up KD at the 3 spot and Reggies length will help him at the 2. Just like Harden can bring the ball up the court and play PG Reggie will do the same thing from the bench.
Maynor and RW have played out there at the same time so Maynor and Reggie will play at the same time. I dont see why this is complicated to understand.
@ okc baby
could of used dirk sick, and not making all but 3 of his shots in the first game against us either, but ehhh what we gonna do.
If the mavs and heat finals taught me anything its that this year we can beat the mavs, and the heat were nothing :P . i wasnt impressed with either team in the finals.
Could have used some of that vs the Mavs
dragonbug :off subject but the harden and drew league footage is uphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFEnyiUJQXs&feature=popt11us14
@ dragonbug
sooooooooooooo no comment on the harden dropping 51 points at drew league? :P come on people. lol. im sure royce can use this as a separate video or something
We are not in need of a shooting guard. we need a bigger dude that can score. Big 2 maybe/SF/PF
Id cut Thabo.and sign cd roberts in a heartbeat, and I feel.like there are still many better options than that
Get some sleep man. Your not thinking straight.
@ DJ7
you have a tire/rim shop? gonna offer Dailythunder discount?
Unless Maynor is traded for a significant upgrade at sf/sg or a lotto pick next year - which has much more talent - I dont see how a guy who will be no higher than 3rd string at 2 positions could.be considered amything above a grade of c-. The only.justification, othrr than trading Maynor - who I like alot - would be to start.Harden, relgate Thab to spot duty and give Jackson 15-25 min a game at the 2. Otherwise the choice.was nothing shy of superfluous
@ okc baby
+1, I think Singler or Jordan Hamilton would have been perfect
I think Presti is one of the best GM if he's not the best, but he can fail as all of them. I expect to trade Nate and not re-sign Cook, otherwise I don't understand this pick
We need to stop messing with these shorties and get a SF scorer
@ DXL
I am.getting nothing but.conflicting reports on whether.it was miami or.us that he was promised/worked out for.
Wheres this Thabo love coming from. Surely it cant be from watching him play this year
Ya ll drinking that coolaid. Get rid of Jeff Green hes the problem. So Nenad and Green are gone. There goes the offense and in comes Perk/Nate/Nazr defense. Off with Thabo! We have no offense cry babies. Now you want to put No offense Thabo on the second team minus harden. Trade Maynor now. hahahhahaha Bozos I tell you. In Presti I trust.
Reggie Jackson's reaction to getting picked by OKC:
http://www.gazette.com/sports/jackson-120332-ramsey-join.html
Oklahoma City perfect fit for Jackson
June 23, 2011 10:33 PM
DAVID RAMSEY
Reggie Jackson is lucky. He soon will join the NBA’s Team of Tomorrow.
The former Palmer star laughed Thursday night a few minutes after being selected by the Oklahoma City Thunder as the 24th pick of the 2011 NBA draft.
Could he have wished for a better destination?
“No, not at all,” he said.
He paused.
“Well, maybe if I had been the No. 1 pick.”
Presti admits in news conference that Reggie Jackson DID work out for OKC, seems like the only team he visited? OKC and Jackson must have come to a secret agreement. I'm relieved that Jackson shut down his other workouts/interviews because he really wanted to be on the Thunder. As long as he's a happy player there will be no issue with team chemistry.
We're doing it again... some people on this board are acting as if they are a better GM than Presti. The man doesn't do anything without having researched it thoroughly, made sure it fit the team's goals/mold, and determining that any side effects would be minimal. Drafting him signals nothing about Maynor. We are not replacing a soon-to-be third year player who has proven he can direct our second team with a rookie. We are much more likely to dump Nate for peanuts than trade Maynor at this point.
If Hamilton really did have coachability issues and/or some physical limitations, why the surprise we didn't take him? Thabo can back up Durant in many situations (he shouldn't be a blanket choice; hopefully we bring Cook back or upgrade his spot). I'm not sure Ivey will be here long term. I thought he was only a one year contract, so I didn't even count on his return as it was. My gut says he'll try to trade Mullens at some point just because we don't need to have two developmental centers when only one of them can play in Tulsa anymore.
Let's let the summer/free agency play out (whenever that starts) before we flip out and condemn this franchise to a 20 win season.
TaoMaas :Maybe we’re looking at this wrong. Most of us were thinking that the Thunder needed a SF (me included). Justin pointed out on the other thread that the Thunder already have someone who can back up KD at SF on the 2nd team…Thabo. If you go with that line of thought, then what the Thunder were shopping for was a Harden replacement for the 2nd team. Jackson looks like he could be that type of guy.
Yeah, I'm okay with Thabo playing SF. I've been more concerned about the PF position. If Collison or Ibaka miss extended time, we will be in bad shape. Of course, I was thinking a PF/SF would make more since than just a regular old PF. Anyway, we still need to fill that gap.