Thunder set on taking Reggie Jackson?

Random trade ideas. though i was right about aldrich last year.

Thabo and Aldrich to Houston for Thabeet and pick 14, maybe both picks if we deal tough enough. then Thabeet, robinson and filler to cleveland for jamison

justin :
Guille4s :http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2011/06/23/is-eric-maynor-really-on-the-move/
“Maynor was so good this season that the second unit often played better than the starters.”I hate reasoning like this. Darnell should know better.

Really man you need to get over your ex. He didnt know and did you a favor bro.

@DSYIII
Exactly, Harris does seem perfect. Do we have any attractive assets to move up with? I'm not sure. We don't have extra draft picks like we do most years, and nobody wants Nate Robinson.

Maybe Mullens can move you up a few spots from 24. But only if a team is desperate for a center.

Can we take on a dead weight contract with the lockout situation? Remember last year's Aldrich trade wasn't completed until a month later. If there's a lockout that limbo period could be a very long time.

So a trade has to work under the 2010-11 salary cap, and we don't have any cap space to absorb contracts.

prye05 :@ DJ 7 Development is as much about opportunity as it is about talent.

I agree.

@ DJ 7
Development is as much about opportunity as it is about talent.

@ DXL
Tobias Harris. Talented, and a high character guy who could grow with the team. Seems like a presti pick if we could move up a little to get him

Jax Raging Bile Duct :Do you really ‘bust’ if you’re a 24th pick?I know this board loves to trust in Sam Presti, but he’s also the man who brought you Byron Mullens.

Do i have to remind the board how many teams were sold on Byron Mullens? At least 12 teams in the league would have drafted Mullens in hopes he could develop into a star. At least we didn't waste the 2nd pick in the draft on Hasheem Thabeet. We still drafted James Harden in the same draft as Mullens. Considering we traded for Eric Maynor later on seems like we did pretty good.

A hard worker who will practice well. Who does that sound like? Definitely Singler, Butler and Faried. Who else?

Cross off Honeycutt, Harper, Hamilton and perhaps Parsons.

Sure, any player can bust, but the probabilities matter. What's the probability that Nikola Mirotic, if he ever comes to the NBA, becomes a rotation player? 70% perhaps?

What's the probability Charles Jenkins or Andrew Goudelock or Ben Hansbrough or one these other slow munchkins makes a NBA rotation? Each have a 10% chance perhaps?

Anyway, let's put this Jackson rumor to bed:

Chris Mannix: I've been told OKC is either looking to trade the pick or take a hard worker who will practice well. Not sure Jackson is that. Twitter

@ DXL
First, any position and any draft spot could be a bust or a huge star, only time will tell.

Second, sometimes it's not so much about the player as the opportunity and the system in which they play (there are lots of people picked in the 20's that make more impact than players picked in the top 10 because they were given an opportunity or better fit a select role).

Third, this draft is weak at the top of the draft not in terms of role player talent. Meaning that there are only a couple top tier players that are expected to be long term all-star players. However, there are lots of players that could go between 5-25 that are considered quality role players in this draft so it's not so devoid of talent as some might think. More it is a draft where people don't really know and the 6th pick could turn out worse than the 26th pick kind of thing. Again going back to opportunity and role within a team to develop.

@ DXL
Barea plays off the bench and frequently alongside Jason Kidd, which is why I included him. You don't consider Eric Gordon successful? Lou Williams was one of the best 6th men in the league last year, which is the type of player we're looking for. Roddy doesn't have much of a track record, but I'd sure as hell trade the 24 for him.

Of course there are a lot of busts after the 20th pick. I could make you a long list of players of any type that never amounted to anything after the 20th pick.

Do you really 'bust' if you're a 24th pick?

I know this board loves to trust in Sam Presti, but he's also the man who brought you Byron Mullens.

Smokescreen, not smokescreen like i said. None of us have a real clue as to whats going to go down. Did everyone forget that pre-trade we we're all agreeing on the Thunder not making any moves, and will do the moves in the off-season, and that was if we even were to trade and we'rent counting on one of our projects panning out. Then the rumors striked up, and BAM!!!

@Sammy
Barea is a point guard. The truely successful players on that list, Jason Terry and Ben Gordon, were both drafted very high in the lottery. Both had proven scoring ability and position didn't matter so much.

I can give you a very, very long list of combo guards drafted after 20 who have been wasted picks. The odds are we won't be able to pick a successful combo guard at pick 24, especially in a weak draft. Jenkins will be a bust and Jackson, if he can't convert to point, will also bust.

Bryson :Wow, I went to sleep last night thinking who we could get at 24…now there are possible transactions and selections flying around everywhere…its exciting.In Presti We Trust, Amen.

Hell yeah!!

We can stay the entire day arguing, and speculating whats ganna happen, but honestly we don't have a clue as to what we'll do until the moment comes. If there is anyone out there who always has a trick up his sleeve its Presti.

In Presti We Trust,

Not saying that the Bobcats wouldn't make a trade but they don't really need a PG they have Augustine from all reports I've read they are looking for wing help, so wouldn't offering them Thabo be more in line with what they are looking for than Maynor? Which if Harden is going to start Thabo could bring back a bit of things without being a necessary piece at which point moving to the #9 would allow for a few different possibilities including taking the 2 Hou picks that are supposedly being offered to get into the top 10. How would 2 picks help us... well Jordan Hamilton could be available who would give a scorer off the bench and potentially also Alex Burcs could be in that range. Personally, I think that would be a nice haul and both could immediately step in to give some scoring punch to the bench in place of Thabo and both have very high potential and decent floors with their current skill level.

@justin
NBA scouts say Kemba Walker and Jimmer Fredette have the ability to score in the NBA. If you have a talent with proven scoring ability, like Kemba Walker, then you can make him a combo guard and not worry about it.

If you have a slow, unexplosive, little tank of ballplayer like Charles Jenkins then you very much worry about his ability to be a combo guard or convert to point guard.

@Keith
I would love to see Tristan Thompson on our bench, but his stock has been rising supposedly.

Wow, I went to sleep last night thinking who we could get at 24...now there are possible transactions and selections flying around everywhere...its exciting.

In Presti We Trust, Amen.

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/83971106117136385

Adrian Wojnarowski
Kings have made it privately clear that they expect to trade 7th pick, sources say. "They're confident they have deal," one official says.

I call foul on this whole successful 6'3'' SG list including JJ Barea. Yeah, he's successful, but he's only 6'3'' in cowboy boots standing on the curb.

Also note where Lou Williams, JJ Barea, Daniel Gibson, and Rodrigue Beaubois were drafted.

@ Thunderstruck
Can Leonard shoot? I thought he was more a defensive 3/4. If we are high enough to draft Leonard, I think Thompson (either one) makes more sense.

Daniel Plainview :@Sammy Name 3 succesful 6′ 3 shooting guards

Limiting myself to last year:
Eric Gordon, Jason Terry, Lou Williams, JJ Barea, Daniel Gibson, Ben Gordon, Roddy Buckets

Daniel Plainview :@Sammy
Name 3 succesful 6′ 3 shooting guards

Jason Terry, Jeff Hornacek, Byron Scott, Jerry West, Hersey Hawkins, Joe Dumars, Monta Ellis, Ben Gordon, Leandro Barbosa...

Certainly not a complete list...

How great would it be if we managed move up into the lottery by trading Maynor and grab Kawhi Leonard (future sixth man) and then we grabbed Reggie Jackson at 24. It would solve the future lack of offense in the second unit (from Harden starting). Thus our first unit would be Westbrook-Harden-Durant-Ibaka-Perkins and our second would be Jackson-Sefolosha-Leonard-Collison-Mohammed.

@ DXL

Sorry, but Jimmer and Kemba have proven ability to score in the NBA? When did this happen?

@justin
Yes, there's nothing wrong with a combo guard per se. But if you're going that route then draft Jimmer Fredette or Kemba Walker for the combo role, players with the proven ability to score in the NBA.

I'm not interested in taking a flyer on a small school scoring king. They almost never pan out.

@justin

Isnt kidd 6'6? Why I would prefer Burks as our combo.

@Daniel Plainview
It's true, every year there are tons of these 6'3" combo guards who are productive in college, often want to convert to PG, and barely register in the NBA.

From the last couple of years remember these names? Willie Warren, Andy Rautins, Lester Hudson, Jack McClinton, Jodie Meeks, JamesOn Curry, Gabe Pruitt.

I don't see Jenkins have a better career than any of the guys above. Jackson does have so explosiveness so he may carve out a niche.

Like I said earlier, my gut tells me we'll get a guard, probably a tweener/combo guard.

Maybe that's just because I don't want Honeycutt or Singler and my subconscious is telling my gut to keep some hope alive.

@ justin
Me too, but there are a lot of things that make me think to keep Eric in th team. I prefer to pick Singler or Bertans and don't change so much the roster

@ DJ 7
I think throwing in next year's first (better/deeper draft) might be enough. The majority of the players coming out this year are best suited for backup roles. That's what we need. Maynor isn't a star, but he's probably going to be a better starter for the Cats than someone like Klay.

@Sammy

Sorry about my agression, at work, annoyed, I have no beef with, just disagreement

Grendel_Knight1974 :Okay here is my theory:Rich Cho is the new GM at Charlotte. Thunder trade Maynor, Mullins and a future pick to Charlotte for the 9th pick.- OKC drafts Klay Thompson out of WSU. - at #24 OKC drafts Reggie Jackson out of BCNow OKC has upgraded its bench, which it HAS to do with Harden moving to the starting unit.

Doesn't sound back, but even though the draft is weak. Would the Bobcats really be going on a limb and trade their top 10 pick for the likes of Eric Maynor, and Mullens? We might have to throw in a little more then that. They may want us to give them our 24th, or find a way to move up higher in this draft, as in like the 14-20 range.

Daniel Plainview :@Sammy Name 3 succesful 6′ 3 shooting guards

The Spurs play George Hill with Tony Parker all the time, the Mavs play Jason Terry with Jason Kidd all the time (and sometimes Barea).

Nothing wrong with a combo guard off the bench like that. It's not uncommon.

Grendel_Knight1974 :Okay here is my theory:Rich Cho is the new GM at Charlotte. Thunder trade Maynor, Mullins and a future pick to Charlotte for the 9th pick.- OKC drafts Klay Thompson out of WSU. - at #24 OKC drafts Reggie Jackson out of BCNow OKC has upgraded its bench, which it HAS to do with Harden moving to the starting unit.

I like your theory im a big fan of klay thompson

@ justin
If it gets a team in the top 10 to give up their pick for Maynor, Darnell can exaggerate as much as he wants.

@ Grendel_Knight1974
That's right along with my thinking, actually. I don't see why they would want Mullens, but either way doesn't really matter.

Guille4s :http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2011/06/23/is-eric-maynor-really-on-the-move/

"Maynor was so good this season that the second unit often played better than the starters."

I hate reasoning like this. Darnell should know better.

@ DSYIII
Beasley has had a decent PER because he's had high usage (relatively) his entire career. PER is known to inflate the impact of high usage players. The fact is, he is NOT a good defender, a very inefficient scorer, and way too passive. Beasley has had attitude issues for years, I don't think KD is going to turn that around. It's not fair to ask that of KD either. His job is to get better and play, not babysit his bff.

Beasley literally adds nothing to the team. At 6 million, that's not cheap.

http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2011/06/23/is-eric-maynor-really-on-the-move/

@ lemur123

Aldrich had a few moments last season in the games he played where he showed real promise. I mean the guy did stop Gasol and Bynum for the time he played. Considering thats something Nenad Kristic wasn't able to do.

@ DSYIII
How are we defining cheap here? He is due to make 6.2M this year and his qualifying offer next year is 8.1M.

Okay here is my theory:

Rich Cho is the new GM at Charlotte. Thunder trade Maynor, Mullins and a future pick to Charlotte for the 9th pick.

- OKC drafts Klay Thompson out of WSU.
- at #24 OKC drafts Reggie Jackson out of BC

Now OKC has upgraded its bench, which it HAS to do with Harden moving to the starting unit.

@Sammy

Name 3 succesful 6' 3 shooting guards

@DXL

Beasley is a head case, no thanks

@ DXL

That would be because he's not. If we draft him, then say bye bye to Maynor. I agree with a few of the other comments. Maynor's role as the back up PG has changed now with the speculations of the roster switch in the starting line up. Now we need a scorer, something that Maynor struggles at. Jackson or Jenk are better overall scorers then Maynor. As much as i love Maynor, if the Thunder can draft a Point Guard of good scoring caliber, and are able to ship Maynor+Mullens+? for a good back up SF and a scrub big man then why not?

Could we be targetting Klay Thompson should we move up? Harden was basically our ball-handler and creator on the 2nd unit. Klay has a similar skillset and range. Klay-Jackson/Jenkins-Thabo makes sense on the second unit. Two passers/shooters, Thabo's defense, and the size for each position.

Man Im kinda hyped for the draft presti only has one pick this year im anxious to see what he can turn that into, from the looks of things he's already working his magic. I think part of his magic is making other teams make poor decisions based on hear say that another team may pick the player they want...I really didnt say too much just wanted to join the conversation, im feening for basketball already lol