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Enjoy a completely ridiculous Thunder trade rumor

by Royce Young on July 7, 2011 at 4:47 pm 42 Comments

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Andrew Bynum to Oklahoma City for Kendrick Perkins and Nate Robinson. That’s a trade that’s been discussed, according to one Paul Finney of the New Orleans Times-Picayune. He writes in a column posted on July 3:

As for L.A., there’s a rumor the Lakers will trade center Andrew Bynum to Oklahoma City for Kendrick Perkins and guard Nate Robinson. Bynum believes Kobe Bryant is too old to win again, that Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook can win more than Kobe (who has won five titles) ever did.

Will trade. Meaning it’s going to happen.

Also, he’s “heard” that J.R. Smith will reunite with Byron Scott in Cleveland, that Chris Bosh might be dealt to Dallas for Jason Kidd and Brendan Haywood and that Tony Parker wants to play with Blake Griffin in Los Angeles. And also because for some reason it’ll give him a better chance to reconcile with Eva Longoria. Seriously. He wrote this.

Now. There’s a very good chance Finney is trying to prove some kind of point with this column, that NBA rumors are out of control, that by tossing out a few “I’ve heard” or “they say” that people (read: bloggers) will take the bait and run with it. He might be trying to do that.

But if he did, he did an absolutely awful job of it. Like horrible. For one, I honestly can’t tell if it’s supposed to be satire or not. It seems like he’s legitimately saying he’s heard these things. Maybe he heard them from his brother-in-law who was actually referring to a trade he was working on in NBA 2K11. Maybe he heard it from his dog who was talking to him in a dream. Maybe he heard it from himself when he said it out loud while writing this ridiculous column. Or maybe he heard it from an agent, front office executive, player or close connection to a player. Who knows.

Sometimes things work like this in this stupid rumor game. Mitch Kupchak is sort of shopping Andrew Bynum around, just to get a feel for his value in case he needs to trade him later. He calls Sam Presti and says, “Hey Sam, Andrew Bynum for Perk and Nate. Would you be in?” Presti says, “Nah, don’t think so. We just signed Perk long-term and are invested in him.” They say nice things about each other, talk about how excited they are about Captain America and then hang up (I have no idea what GMs talk about). Then Kupchak is talking to David Kahn later about trying to maybe get the No. 2 pick and Kupchak says, “You know I was talking to Presti about maybe dealing Bynum for Perk and Robinson, if that does anything for you.” Then like a game of telephone all this crap starts circling around and ends up in a stupid Paul Finney column. It’s very possible this is what happened.

What’s real though is the Thunder aren’t trading Perk to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum. This is pretty much entirely some weird fabrication that may or may not be trying to prove a point. Nate Robinson? I wouldn’t doubt that Presti’s made some calls that included his name. But Andrew Bynum is not about to be traded to OKC. Not in this sense, at least.

I’m pretty much baffled by the point or idea of the column in general (I mean, where’s he going with this? It starts by talking about Dell Demps, then does some rumor whoring and then ends with something about Roger Goodell and the Saints? What the eff is going on?), but the fact people have emailed and tweeted me saying, “Thoughts on the Bynum to OKC rumor?” caught my attention. And despite it maybe being part of some backwards column trying to prove a point or maybe being a real thing Finney “heard,” (from Elvis, in person, I bet) it means we can all dust off the Trade Machine, play around for a bit and talk about something other than this miserable lockout.

Thanks, Paul. I guess.

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C_Dub
C_Dub 5pts

I liked Perk even when he was with the C's just because how much he bullied the Lakers. And I can sleep soundly knowing if he didn't get injured, he would have willed the Celtics to another title over LA, no doubt.

Having said that, I've always thought Bynum was a punk and his outbursts in the Dallas series brought it all to light. Is he better than Perk? Depends what you're looking for but I think he's really overrated. If he played for a team nobody cared about, noone would even know who he is.

Perk>Bynum mmmmkay.

Barrett
Barrett 5pts

Gunni Thor :@ sammasaaron The last time I checked the roster I could not see any inside presence who could command a double teamthe last time I checked we were not the championsthe last time I saw the Thunder play Chandler could just roam around the paint playing help defense cause he sure as hell didn’t need to worry about PerkinsWhy can’t Bynum fit in this culture with guys around his age instead of growing around Kobe?

Last time I checked the Lakers got swept by the Mavs and Andrew Bynum forearm checked a guy over a foot shorter while in mid-air.

Last time I checked the Thunder, with a less-than-100% KP, made it farther than the Lakers this year.

Last time I checked, when KP faced up against Bynum in the championships, KP and the Celts ended up champs.

Last time I checked the Mavs won the Championship against the favored Heat.

Last time I checked Tyson Chandler's offense was not the reason the Dallas Mavericks beat OKC or Miami.

Culture and personality can be overrated. But go ask KG, PP, Ray Allen, and Rajon Rondo whether Perk and the attitude/culture he brings is overrated. That team had no identity when he left and that IMO was the single most clear reason why.

Perk is a major asset and he will be healthy next year.

Jimbo Slice
Jimbo Slice 5pts

@Bryson
No comparrison. Yes, defense and jumpshooting have been KG's most valuable traits in a celtics uniform, but in Minny, KG was bar none the most skilled big in the game. Inside, outside, passing the ball, defensively, he was an even better version of Lamar Odom. And as Daniel Hawaii said, his feel for basketball is far past Serge's. He's the reason KP is as smart a basketball player as he is (partially), not vice versa.

But I love Serge and don't want him traded for anyone. Just bad comparrison that's all.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

Bryson :@ justin
Are you serious? Maybe not build wise or personality wise, but as for skill set and defensive prowess, yeah, good comparison I think.

KG has an offensive repetoire and a feel for the game of basketball that I'm not sure Serge will ever have.

Don't forget about Minnesota Kevin Garnett. He was really something. I'm not sure you can watch these highlights and say Serge will become this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRMYVzGnEu8&feature=fvwrel

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

Y'all are nuts. I would trade Kendrick Perkins for Andrew Bynum 100 times out of 100 times and laugh as the Thunder won multiple championships. Andrew Bynum is one of the few remaining legitimate offensive post players and the Lakers are actually DUMB for not throwing the ball into him more. The guy is an absolute beast in the paint.

I agree with Gunni Thor. If we had a post presence who could command a double team, the offense would open up exponentially! And defensively, I don't think losing Perk and gaining Bynum hurts us at all. Bynum is an even bigger body than Perk and probably blocks shots just as well.

Get Bynum in the OKC program and I have a feeling he would shape up. There are just too many distractions in L.A.

Bryson
Bryson 5pts

@ justin

Are you serious? Maybe not build wise or personality wise, but as for skill set and defensive prowess, yeah, good comparison I think.

OKCTHUNDER11
OKCTHUNDER11 5pts

Ya this trade is complete B.S. Bynum is a great young player, but I wouldnt want to see him in an OKC uniform. Perk is a much better leader and I have a feeling he will show us a little more next season. I am honestly getting tired of hearing all these trade rumors about OKC. We need to remember we got to the western conference finals with one of the youngest teams in the nba. Nothing is broken and there is nothing to fix. I truly believe OKC could and should have made it to the finals if they didnt blow some late game leads against dallas. But we saw a huge improvement over the past two seasons and i think the thunder will be perfectly fine with their current roster. Russ, Harden,Durant, and Ibaka will all be efficient scoring (especially if Serge continues to improve his mid range jumper). WE will be dangerous theres no doubt about it. I think our young teams leadership will only continue to improve and our team chemistry is very important. We dont need a douche like bynum to come in and mess things up. Thunder will be in the finals next year

DJ 7
DJ 7 5pts

Obviously Bynum is better then KP overall, but Bynum tends to fade away when the moment gets bright, not only that but i agree with an earlier poster that we would lose this sudden attitude<8that i love so much) if we trade KP. I wouldnt do Perkins salty like that either.

Stupid Lockout,spewing stupid impossible trade rumors.

sammasaaron
sammasaaron 5pts

@ Gunni Thor
I don't think he can't. I just don't think he would. Bynum has shown himself to have maturity problems; real maturity problems and not the fake ones that were created around Russ during the postseason. Also, arguing for trading Perk based on one post-season with the team when he was injured is not exactly fair.

I would like to clarify, though. I don't think trading for Bynum would be a bad thing; I just don't want it. Despite our late game struggles in the postseason, offense is not going to be our problem. Between KD, Russ and Harden we'll have plenty of shot creators and as long as Ibaka keeps improving his set shot and Perkins can actually jump, our starting line-up offense will be fine. Second string is up for debate, but Bynum wouldn't really impact that.

My point is we spent the entire second half of the season talking about the influence Perk had on this team and how his value doesn't show up on the stat sheet. Personally, I think the intangibles Perk brings (hard-nosed defense, leadership, experience) are far more valuable to the Thunder than Bynum providing another option on offense. I think Perk telling KD to call that meeting is a great example of why we need Perk. KD is the undisputed leader of this team, but he's still learning. Perk has played with some of the best leaders in the game in Pierce and Garnett and he's passing that knowledge on to KD, just like he's passing his defensive knowledge on to Ibaka. Bynum is an improvement over Perk on paper, but I think we'd lose the attitude that Perk provided which was essential to our defensive play down the stretch.

Gunni Thor
Gunni Thor 5pts

@ sammasaaron
The last time I checked the roster I could not see any inside presence who could command a double team

the last time I checked we were not the champions

the last time I saw the Thunder play Chandler could just roam around the paint playing help defense cause he sure as hell didn't need to worry about Perkins

Why can't Bynum fit in this culture with guys around his age instead of growing around Kobe?

sammasaaron
sammasaaron 5pts

I would not do this trade. Here's why:

1) After our game 1 loss to Memphis in OKC, Perk convinces Durant to call a team meeting at KD's house. OKC wins game 2 and eventually the series in a hard fought 7 games.

2) Bynum, after complaining about his teammates to the media, clotheslines JJ Barea out of frustration, gets ejected and rips off his jersey like a child as he stomps off the court.

I'll take Perk FOR THIS TEAM every time. I don't think Perk is better than Bynum; I think Bynum is a horrible fit for the Thunder and Perk is a perfect fit. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

Bynum is a house of glass.

anonymous
anonymous 5pts

@biggup12
yeah, I agree. It seems pretty obvious its satire.

justin
justin 5pts

@ Bryson

We can all respect each other's opinions but please don't compare Serge Ibaka to Kevin Garnett.

biggup12
biggup12 5pts

I just read Paul Finney's article, and he is COMPLETELY OBVIOUSLY joking here. He's putting together humorous trade scenarios with the type of overthought yet plausible reasoning that, he suggests, will become rampant in the coming months.

In no way shape or form is this meant to be grounded in reality.

Danny
Danny 5pts

Could OKC even afford this?

Regardless, there's no way. Plus, I'd like to see a healthy-Perkins in a Thunder jersey at least once.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

@ TygaBlood
So the people that liked Jeff Greens offense to go. Wouldnt want Bynum for no offense Perk. hmmmm ok

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Iam on Team D Howard more to Thunder

TygaBlood
TygaBlood 5pts

Anyone who would not do this trade from the Thunders standpoint is really dumb. Probably the same crowd that didn't want to disrupt "team chemistry" by trading the average Jeff Green. Bynum on the Thunder puts okc over the top. Bynum is in a different stratosphere than Perkins slow self dragging up the court

Bryson
Bryson 5pts

and to argue the other case, Andrew Bynum is a bulldozer. He is a large, wide presence in the paint, easily one of the biggest players in the league. He is dominant in the paint, but has an extremely limited skill set outside of the paint, and as mentioned before, is a huge off court liability. Andrew Bynum is also a much more offensively focused player...quite the reverse of Perk.

Bryson
Bryson 5pts

I like the stat line a healthy Bynum puts up...but his attitude and health are atrocious. While Perk may not put up major stats, his presence, experience, and attitude make him much better. Plus, Perk played along side one of the best power forwards (especially defensively) of all time, and is tapping into Serge's potential.

That brings me to another point that I love talking about, and talked about on a post back in March. Perk is moulding Serge into Kevin Garnett V2. If you think about it, Kevin Garnett is a super-defensive power forward with a deadly mid range jumper. Now think about Serge, he is a super-defensive power forward really working on his mid range game. Now take a moment to realize that Serge is just so much more physically dominant. He is easily one of the top athletes in the NBA, with mountains of potential, and a developing down low game.

Together Perk and KG won a championship as the defensive anchors of that Celtics team...eventually Perk and KGV2 will too.

Perkins Game Face
Perkins Game Face 5pts

I would do the trade if it was offered. Thing is presti wouldn't bring it up cause I don't think he'd insult a gm not named Kahn with a deal like this. And Jim buss might not give up Bynum for Howard, no way he'd trade him for perk.

Thomas
Thomas 5pts

@ Daniel Hawaii
I don't know. Maybe He seems like a tool and he's had many, and repeated injuries. Just seems like a lot to bite off at a risk to breaking up our chemistry.

I think the "Thunder family" thing the organization is always preaching might start to sound a little hollow if you are always wheeling and dealing core pieces.

shiki
shiki 5pts

@ Daniel Hawaii
I will do it.Bynum kept healthy in playoff these 3 seasons,It is enough.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

So you guys seriously wouldn't do this trade if it was offered? Seriously???

dragonbug
dragonbug 5pts

Thomas :@ Daniel Hawaii Perk’s had one major knee injury and if you remember it, it really was a freak deal. Bynum incidentally, came down on his back going for a rebound. It was basically all Perk’s weight as well as Bynum going sideways into the knee. I doubt there’s many people in the world who wouldn’t have been injured in that circumstance. Bynum on the other hand has just had repeated problems going back several years. You can’t really point to one specific play he got hurt on. He just has bad knees.

@ Thomas
plus, hes a jerk. he wouldnt fit in at OKC at all. hes not a presti type player by any means

dragonbug
dragonbug 5pts

oh god *just finish laughing* whew. i seriously doubt presti is getting perk healthy and giving him money to just trade him off. whats next? Trading Kd and russ for steven nash and dirk :P

Thomas
Thomas 5pts

@ Daniel Hawaii
Perk's had one major knee injury and if you remember it, it really was a freak deal. Bynum incidentally, came down on his back going for a rebound. It was basically all Perk's weight as well as Bynum going sideways into the knee. I doubt there's many people in the world who wouldn't have been injured in that circumstance. Bynum on the other hand has just had repeated problems going back several years. You can't really point to one specific play he got hurt on. He just has bad knees.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

Thomas :If Andrew didn’t have the knees of a 47 year old I would go for it. But as he does have serious knee issues I would be too scared that he’d go done and we’d be right back where we started.

And Perk doesn't have knee issues?

Thomas
Thomas 5pts

If Andrew didn't have the knees of a 47 year old I would go for it. But as he does have serious knee issues I would be too scared that he'd go done and we'd be right back where we started.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

There's no way this trade is even a possibility. It's so horribly lopsided in our favor. A lineup of Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Serge Ibaka and Andrew Bynum would be just ridiculous.

This is not happening. The Lakers would never agree to it. If, by some miracle, it does happen, we would be the favorites to win every championship for the next 10 years.

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Harden wouldnt have to start

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

picks

okc baby
okc baby 5pts

Bynum pics on little dudes and I like Nate better

justin
justin 5pts

I'd happily do this trade. Lakers wouldn't touch it.

shiki
shiki 5pts

Kobe will kill Kupchak if it is true.

jmo5
jmo5 5pts

Nice Royce! One of my favorite articles of yours!

Perkins Game Face
Perkins Game Face 5pts

I meant Perk hates the Lakers, Pau, and I think Kobe too.....

Gunni Thor
Gunni Thor 5pts

You guys are kidding right? We'd be instant favorites for the next 6-7 seasons if Bynum would join our team and only stay relatively healthy for the post season

Perkins Game Face
Perkins Game Face 5pts

I gotta ask, why would the lakers even be interested in this made up deal? Let's go and acquire a guy that basically hates our organization and our two best players? I like Bynum as the better of the two but no way would we do Perk like that. At least not for Bynum. Maybe a different story if it were Howard.....

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

I hope for your sake that Finney isn't 6'4'' and 280 lbs, lest you bump into him someday soon and he remember you for this article.

But yeah, I'd rather not have Bynum here.

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