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What’s up with Serge Ibaka?

by Royce Young on December 27, 2011 at 1:05 pm 75 Comments

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Two games, three total blocks. I think that says it all right there.

Serge Ibaka has started very slowly for the Thunder. Against Orlando opening night, he didn’t score, had six rebounds and two blocks in just 23 minutes. Against Minnesota Monday, he scored six points, had six boards and a block in just 19 minutes.

It’s early — just two games early — but it feels like we have to ask what’s up with Serge? After a summer where he spent time in Spain working out a post game, got stronger and has the experience of starting the last half of the season, big things were expected. I ever pegged him as my darkhorse for Defensive Player of the Year. I thought there was potential for him to sneak into the All-Star Game.

And guess what: All those things can still happen. It’s been two games.

Why has he started slowly and why have his minutes been dashed so severely? It’s simple: matchups. Against the Magic, Ibaka had trouble defending the perimeter oriented Ryan Anderson. Against the Wolves, Minnesota went small the entire second half so Scott Brooks matched it by putting Kevin Durant at the 4.

Here’s the thing: That’s not new. Brooks loves to play small. Last season either Nick Collison or Ibaka got the time at the 5 because Perk was slow and fat, but now that he’s a monster again, Perk got those minutes in crunchtime.

And on top of that, the Thunder are a different kind of machine this season. You can tell James Harden is a more aggressive player that’s looking to carry the offense at times. KD is KD and Russ is Russ. After that, there’s not a whole lot of room for shots. I would bet that the Thunder don’t have a single play designed for Ibaka. Because that’s not his role. He’s out there to patrol the paint, rebound, give energy and make an open 18-footer when afforded the opportunity.

Would it be good if the Thunder could work him some in the post? Absolutely. And I think that’s coming. But we’re two games into a season where the Thunder have played a team with a traditional rotation. Against the Grizzlies Wednesday, I’d be surprised if Ibaka doesn’t play 25-30 minutes. If he doesn’t, then maybe it’s time to wonder.

Last season’s final 30 games weren’t a flash in the pan for Ibaka. He’s a young player with a bunch of talent and upside that’s still figuring it out. To expect him to walk on the court and put up double-doubles nightly probably isn’t fair. I’m as guilty as anyone in that. But he’s shown too much promise not to be excited. The Thunder are 2-0 having dominated one game against an Eastern contender and surviving a scrappy upstart on the second night of a back-to-back. Ibaka played, but didn’t play great and didn’t play a lot.

He looked good in preseason play (he blocked Dirk’s unblockable shot) and hasn’t necessarily looked bad the first two games. He’s just been a tad unproductive. That’s not like him, but again, Ibaka is a role player. The idea of a role player is you do your job, or your role, when called upon. Whether that’s blocking a shot in 15 minutes or blocking 10 in 35 minutes, you just do your job.

Is something up with Ibaka? Let’s hold judgment on that until at the second week of the season.

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holeydonut
holeydonut 5pts

I'm benching Serge in my fantasy league in favor of Brandon Bass and Andre Miller.

Kevin35
Kevin35 5pts

http://okcthunder.cba.pl/ The only Polish site about Thunder!!

Jmack
Jmack 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Kevin35

Google translation

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fokcthunder.cba.pl%2F

Kevin35
Kevin35 5pts

translation in this way, bring a lot of mistakes in the content of posts. But I will consider the introduction of the English version of the page;) @Jmack

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts

I've predicted since pre-draft that Norris Cole would turn into Eric Maynor, and I know Eric played really well in Utah, but it's difficult for me to imagine him stepping up the way Cole did tonight in just his second game.

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

i just ran into andrew luck in a mall in scottsdale... fiesta bowl must be soon. ha. saw a lot of OSU shirts too. felt like home... :(

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Wow, Big Al is 2-16 from the field tonight. Derrick Favors is a -26 in +/- and #3 pick Enes Kanter is 1-7 for 5 points in 21 minutes. Utah could very well be the worst team in the league. Detroit and Cleveland will be in that mix too.

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

@Daniel Hawaii not a big utah fan. i do not mind seeing them in this mix. ha

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

@TreyFiveOnMyBack Yup, plus they are in our division so the fact that they're terrible is even better. Do we get to play Utah 4 times this year? If so, we could probably chalk up those 4 wins right now!

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

@Daniel Hawaii haha. i remember that new years victory at the ford center 2 years ago. i was screaming so loud and it was so loud toward the end of that game, i actually passed out for a brief second into my seat, then got back up and started screaming again, then got to see collison ice it with his free throws. i'll never forget that game..

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Currently #1 trending topic on Twitter: #TheLakersAreSoWhite

Haha!

LPCes99
LPCes99 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

GUYS DONT FORGET TO VOTE! http://www.nba.com/nbatv/

We want to see OKC vs PORTLAND next Tuesday!

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

@LPCes99 man, i hate losing to chicago and lakers even in fan voting!

beardjr
beardjr 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

kenny smith" maybe if you played three games in three nights you wouldnt need weight watchers Charles"

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

Troy Murphy looks much better than he did last season.

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@[censored] I really like McRoberts game too. He's not a great defensive player, but very active and athletic on the offensive end. 2 yrs, 6.1M seems like a pretty good deal. I would have loved McBob on our bench.

.

However, this game is brutal to watch. Neither team is playing great defense, but no one can score either.

yunghawg
yunghawg 5pts

@kfmsooner@[censored] only the lakers get him at that price... okc would have to overpay

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@[censored] This game has moved from brutal to impossible to watch...

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

@kfmsooner@[censored] yeah, i couldn't bare it any longer...

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Its is what it is. Got to take the good with the bad:)

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

Norris Cole just hit back to back jumpers for the Heat...18 pts...it will be scary if he is the real deal.

shiki
shiki 5pts

@kfmsooner Can you imagine we can share ball to Reggie at the final minute?Brooks really needs to learn how to control his superstars.

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

@shiki@kfmsooner i couldn't help but sit here and think when i saw cole getting his 15 minutes, how much better jackson probably is then him, but won't get to show it anytime soon. i really hope we get a lot of sizable leads on teams soon and get to use reggie a little bit. i am beyond excited for his upside...

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

@shiki@kfmsooner Harden even has trouble.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

If you go on Twitter right now and search for "Celtics Perkins" you can laugh at all the Celtics fans wishing they could get Perk back. It's hilarious.

shiki
shiki 5pts

@Daniel Hawaii Celtics are respected team.If healthy Perk is still in their roster,they have big chance to begin this season with 2-0.

Thanks a lot ,Sir Angie

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

"Last season's final 30 games weren't a flash in the pan for Ibaka." I predict that in a week or two, this slow start will be a faint memory and a non-issue.

shiki
shiki 5pts

Love got 15 FTs in 1st quarter

shiki
shiki 5pts

Maybe he just needs some time to adjust himself.He played the most games in lockout,those games were tough and different with NBA.

He didn't keep constant performance,one game he got 0 but the next game he got 15+9.He needs more experience and offense skill to improve himself.

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts

I'd be less concerned about Serge I'd his poor play wasn't paired with Mayberry reporting that he's gotten into in-game spats with Perk and Westbrook in both games. It's obviously still early and plenty of games are left for Serge to shine, but I don't think the issue is simply matchups and sample size.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@SammyThunderer where did h report this? do u have a link?

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA
And from the opener vs. the Magic:
Ibaka barked back at the bench after one defensive trip. I’ve never seen him do anything like that before. Ryan Anderson had just buried another shot and he appeared to have taken exception to something coming from his coaches or teammates. It pretty much summed up his night. That and the time he ignored his responsibility to inbound the ball, prompting Perk to ask the staff “What the %%%% is wrong with Serge?”
http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2011/12/26/thunder-97-magic-89/#more-7195

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@SammyThunderer@f5alcon thanks

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA

http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2011/12/27/thunder-104-wolves-100/

"There was tons of miscommunication tonight, with Ibaka seemingly at the center of it all. He got into whatever is a step below a shouting match with both Perk and Westbrook on separate occasions. At one point, it looked like Ibaka and Westbrook had to be separated by Nazr Mohammed."

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

in cbs power ranking nuggets are ranked #2, thats crazy, though in the response column they say just that.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

@f5alcon Let me just say for the record that I am very worried about the Nuggets. They go 10 deep and while they don't have any "all-stars" per se, they are very talented from top to bottom. I am pissed that they got back both Nene and Afflalo at good prices. I thought for sure some team out there would overpay for one (or both) of them. Then they stole Rudy and Brewer from the Mavs for nothing. They got rid of 2 troublemakers in Kenyon Martin and JR Smith and they will get Wilson Chandler back in March. They are going to be trouble.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@f5alcon i think the nuggest will be better than clippers this year if they can stay healthy... they have put up good offensive numbers

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@f5alcon not top two, but top 4 maybe

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@f5alcon you got my with your facts and examples

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@RRRWHOAAAA only 1 team in the past decade the 09/10 suns have had an offensive rating as high as denver does right now, and only 6 teams with a pace faster. Both of those are going to come down to more realistic numbers.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA yeah they did, against the suns, who play at a high pace as well and not a great defense, both teams had over 90 FGA that game. I am not saying that denver is bad, but their pace is really fast and that will be hard to sustain in a compressed season.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@f5alcon very true. There preseason games, although only preseason, were very high scoring. I think the first one the scored 127 points in regulation. I know its just preseason, but still i think they have more offensive fire power than people realize

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA they played one game, against dallas who we were destroying in preseason and got killed by the heat. Give them a week and see if they have beaten portland or lakers or spurs.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

yea Mavs and Lakers made the worst decisions ever getting rid of Chandler/Odom

Hubbeljp
Hubbeljp 5pts

Haha, I love the pic on this story. Perk mad and barking an order while serge is struggling for a rebound

Royce Young
Royce Young moderator 5pts

@Hubbeljp There was definitely a reason I chose it.

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

@Royce Young@Hubbeljp lol. perk looks photoshopped..

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts

Wow, the Lakers start the season on a back to back to back? That's brutal. And this will be a home opener for the Jazz. I know the Jazz are weak, but could those old Lakers legs start out 0-3?

kfmsooner
kfmsooner 5pts

@TempBoy Brandon I think the game is in LA

Monkeyonx
Monkeyonx 5pts

Too early in the season to start freaking out, in my opinion.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Monkeyonx especially because we are 2-0, we could be dallas or lakers and 0-2.

DizzDai
DizzDai 5pts

@f5alcon@Monkeyonx And we are the only team with 2 wins. So far. Even the bulls lost a game.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DizzDai@Monkeyonx yeah, though the heat probably will be tonight and portland and nj have the opportunity to be as well.

Monkeyonx
Monkeyonx 5pts

Hell, how many airballs were thrown up last night???

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  1. dustbury.com » Taunting the champions says:
    December 29, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    [...] (Rebounds were even at 38.) Russell Westbrook was back on track; perhaps more important, so was Serge Ibaka, who had been comparatively ineffective in the first three games of the season. The X factor, here, though, was the OKC bench, which [...]

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