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Would Kevin Durant consider restructuring his contract?

by Royce Young on January 26, 2012 at 12:43 pm 189 Comments

Jesse D. Garrabrant/NBAE/Getty Images

Actually, the right question is, could Kevin Durant consider restructuring his contract?

In this week’s mailbag, I answered a question about Durant and the possibility that he would renegotiate his deal to potentially free up a little more room to sign James Harden and Serge Ibaka. Under the old collective bargaining agreement, contract restructuring wasn’t allowed. But in the new one, players can.

It was among the so-called “b-list” issues and basically a player can renegotiate their deal to be paid a smaller amount, but the player’s salary can’t decrease by more than 40 percent.

However, there’s a catch and that’s where KD’s deal comes in. Someone with direct knowledge of the CBA tells me a player on a maximum level contract can’t do it. Because the restructuring has to include an extension and a designated five-year player can’t be extended. For example, a player on a three-year deal could restructure, but would have to get a new four-year deal. And since KD already has a five-year contract, he can’t add any more years to that.

So the conclusion: Even if KD wanted to do it, he couldn’t do it. But would he if he could?

I asked KD about it before the game against the Hornets before I had it all sorted out and for fun, here’s what he said.

“If they came to me, of course I’d look at it. I want to keep everybody together,” he said. “But it seems that everything is going to fall in place perfectly as far as keeping the group together as far as contracts are concerned. But I really haven’t look into it.”

No surprise, but KD would be willing if it was something that was necessary. Or I guess, possible.

But like he said, it might not be. We’ve all broken down the future contract scenarios a number of times and it’s going to be close, but it’s possible the Thunder are fine. And if they’re no, so be it. You move on and try and win with who you’ve got. The fact OKC has Durant and Westbrook locked up and will almost certainly keep Harden is enough to make them a contender for a while.

That’s all to worry about later though. Because this current team is set and ready to compete for a championship as is. Whether in five years the core of the roster looks different or not, the championship window is wide open. Of course the future is something to keep an eye on because sustaining the success is the plan, but the focus is on the now. Worry about the rest when that bridge needs to be crossed.

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ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

Lord Byron returns to the bench. Diop will start at C again.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

@ILikePancakes Wait, you mean he wasn't really a 20-10 threat every night? I am shocked.

In all seriousness, it was a good run, but we knew it was unsustainable. Once those low efficiency long 2s stopped falling, his scoring fell off of a cliff. After that, Charlotte realized they had a 7 foot SG with little rebounding ability and no interest in defense.

shiki
shiki 5pts

Only thunder and Nuggets have above 50% road record in west

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'm interested to see how Lil Nate plays tonight. I could see him going off on us, but I could also see him trying to do too much and end up going 2-12.

I'm also looking forward to seeing Nate Rob try to guard Russell. That should be entertaining. Russ should try and post him up every chance he gets.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Daniel Hawaii nate rob doesnt start, he is going up against jackson. they will probably keep curry or ellis on russ.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

@f5alcon @Daniel Hawaii
Nate vs Reggie will be even better since this will be a match-up of who would take over the 2nd team after Maynor got hurt.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

@Daniel Hawaii Oh, this will be amazing.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

cole has the tweet of the day on dd... it is a very aldridgesq quote

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

we're gonna get some techs against the clippers... perk might get ejected

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA i don't mind that at all blake irks me

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

mo williams playing nasty

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

why is it i used to feel like the thunder were sooo deep, but now...... is it just me?

JJJ
JJJ 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA I think we're still pretty deep, just not as effective. The bench hasnt been extending leads like in the past. I don't have the stats to back me, but from watching them, it seems like the D especially has slacked off with the second unit.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA Bench took a step back when Maynor got injured and Cook went through his eye thing. Hopefully, things are on the upswing now that Reggie is settling in and Daequan seems to have his stroke back.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@Daniel Hawaii I know we lost maynor, but i feel like its not just that... maybe its philly denver minnasota and other teams that are deep playing better than they were this time last year... i still feel like we've got enough, but its a lot of pressure on KD RW and JH... would be nice to have another person average 10-15... hopefully serge continues to step up... time to play like the all star he said he wanted to be

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

@dollarbillrussell@RRRWHOAAAA@Daniel Hawaii Maybe if we gave Cole some real time, he'd develop into something that'd make us feel a bit more shored up.

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@RRRWHOAAAA@Daniel Hawaii Bottom line Ibaka needs to step up haha

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@dollarbillrussell@Daniel Hawaii agreed... although LAC is pretty deep in certain positions, just not in the post... they have great guard depth and some good wing players.. I agree we have the best of both worlds, just feel like we need another scorer... at least 7 of our players our pretty limited offesively, and thats being generous... kinda wish we had nate rob instead of lazar

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA@Daniel Hawaii I should rephrase what I said. Teams with 4th options like this do exist, however their top scorers are struggling to break 20 points a game. Whereas our top two players average close to 50 combined points per game.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

@RRRWHOAAAA Denver and Philly are arguably deeper than us, but they don't have the star power we have. They don't have 2, or even potentially 3 All-Stars. When they really need a bucket in crunch time, who's the go-to guy?

And teams that do have a Big 2 or 3 like Miami, LAL, LAC, NYK, Boston, etc., don't have our depth.

So we really have the best of both worlds.

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA@Daniel Hawaii I'm pretty sure every team in the league would like to have a 4th option who averaged 10-15. Sadly this is the NBA and that doesn't happen. That's like saying it would be nice to have a point guard who averaged a triple double.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

The clippers grizzlies game might feature the worst uni combo ive ever seen... the grizzlies look like jv practice jerseys

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA Jeez, the USBL had better jerseys. These are seriously atrocious.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

they say "the thunder have the best record in the league... percentage points over chicago"

they never say chicago is just percentage points ahead of the thunder

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA Let's hold on to it for a week before we worry about what they say. Last time we had best record we gave it up next game.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

wow celtics took the lead... how will the 'master of panic' respond?

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Avery Bradley is mesmerizing to watch on D and single-handedly destroys the hypothesis that super effective PG defense is impossible

shiki
shiki 5pts

@SammyThunderer I hope he can join us in the green-perk trade instead of Nate

ThunderNZ
ThunderNZ 5pts

@SammyThunderer

I really wanted us to take him in the draft...

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts

@ThunderNZ Same here, but I'm fine with Cole

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@ThunderNZ@SammyThunderer maybe one of the best picks was a stretch... but a really solid piece and eventually a starting center on a championship thunder team

ThunderNZ
ThunderNZ 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA@SammyThunderer

I like Paul George

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@ThunderNZ@SammyThunderer both good picks... the 2010 draft was super weak and i still think 5 even 10 years down the road cole will be one of the best picks.. could have a long career, even if hes had a slow start

ThunderNZ
ThunderNZ 5pts

@SammyThunderer@ThunderNZ

Yea, I'm happy with Cole and I liked the Jackson pick a lot too. Although I did was higher on Jenkins at the time

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Lasers
Lasers 5pts

@ManishShrestha dang, he got five points for that comment?

f5alcon
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@Lasers that is what people start with

Barry Amenema
Barry Amenema 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@JeremyBrewer@f5alcon@Lasers Please like me....PLEEEEEASE

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@f5alcon@Lasers Yeah dog, my first ten points. Wish I could buy some likes on-line for a dollar a piece to make me look cooler.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Lasers the guy with 1000+ points is a livefyre employee.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@ThunderChick2010@EVDebs@f5alcon@Lasers peoples points constantly get erased... my whole account got deleted twice... i used to post as GOKC but i had so much trouble signing in one day i just made a new account

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

@EVDebs@f5alcon@Lasers I think you get 5 pts automatically for signing up with Livefyre, then each point after that represents a like received. Some folks with megapoints on here are presumably very active on other Livefyre sites . . . .

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

@JeremyBrewer@f5alcon i dunno, there's some spurs fan running around here with 1100 points

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts

@f5alcon@Lasers Not my ass

EVDebs
EVDebs 5pts

@f5alcon @Lasers Would someone please explain the point system here?

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

Another thing I've wondered... If/when (yes, its if/when now!) we win the championship this year, does that help or hurt our chances at re-signing harden/ibaka/maynor when they become free agents?

It may seem like if they get rings, they'll be more likely to sacrifice some $ to repeat as champions and build a dynasty... but that isn't how it worked in Dallas, as Butler, Stevenson, Barera and Chandler walked for more cash.

I know our players are quality people, but they are also young too. Do you think if we win the ring, james might say to himself, we'll, ive got my ring, now its time to go get my money. Even if he doesnt win a championship with his next team, he is still young enough to keep chasing one elsewhere for years to come

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA i think harder to keep role players, as they have their ring, easier to keep the core.

DavidLord
DavidLord 5pts

Sorry but the rule you are talking about doesn't even exist. The CBA (in 2005 and again in 2011) says a player CANNOT renegotiate existing salary downwards under any circumstances.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DavidLord yes you can, it is in the new CBA, but like royce pointed out it can't be a max player.

DavidLord
DavidLord 5pts

@f5alcon The size of the contract is irrelevant. What ESPN, Royce, and many others failed to see is that when the NBA talks about a "renegotiation" it is always talking about a RAISE. Always.

n the new CBA, they provided the following definition(s) in Article I - “Renegotiation,” “renegotiate,” or “renegotiated” means Contract amendment that provides for an increase in Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses."

And in the section regarding renegotiations and extensions, they wrote this: "In no event shall a Team and player negotiate a decrease in Salary or in any Incentive Compensation for any Salary Cap Year covered by a Player Contract."

We ran it by the Mavs' front office who confirmed that in the NBA there is no ability to ever renegotiate any salary downward. Ever. Quote provided.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DavidLord We for the most part dislike only jason terry for dancing on our logo.

DavidLord
DavidLord 5pts

@f5alcon Understood. I'm probably not recognized much outside Mav circles, but I've been cited by M Stein in articles on cap questions at times, and you'll find my name several times in the appendix of Coon's

FAQ (both 1999 and 2005 editions).

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DavidLord yeah, i read your article, nor is it surprising that I found the misinformation and ran with it, as there was nothing to dispute it. I am not challenging what you found now, but originally you didn't provide a source and well this is the internet, so I had some skepticism as I did not recognize your name.

DavidLord
DavidLord 5pts

@f5alcon@DavidLord Nope, there is no such rule. I have the new CBA, and Royce is simply mistaken. I made the discovery on reading the CBA about 3 weeks ago, it was confirmed by the NBA and put into print, but obviously not everyone has the word yet. http://mavericks.scout.com/2/1145100.html

DavidLord
DavidLord 5pts

@f5alcon The copy I have is about 600 pages (marked up working version from the negotiations) and would take substantial work to make online-ready. Don't think i would ruffle feathers if I put it in print, but it's simply more work than it would be worth to us to do. I suspect any number of outlets have the CBA by now and could publish it if they wished but if you're interested, I'm confident the players' union will eventually have the polished version available to the public.

I do answer questions at our forum on the CBA's new rules, if you have any you can look me up there until the bible itself is in print. The link is http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=268&f=2144 and while we're a Mavs-focused site, we like the Thunder and their young talent.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@DavidLord Well it is better that you can provide a source. So I stand corrected. I assume there is an NDA on the CBA as to why it hasnt become public on your site?

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