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Thunder Player Power Rankings: Batman and Batman

by Royce Young on February 20, 2012 at 1:33 pm 74 Comments

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You know how your team is having a good season? When losses like the one to Houston or the one at Sacramento really stick out to you. Teams lose, it happens. Nobody goes 82-0 (or 66-0). You can’t show up every single night ready to play and win.

But those two games are certainly ones we can agree that the Thunder should’ve won. Like in Houston, OKC missed its final nine shots, with Durant and Westbrook coming up empty on looks they’ve hit all season. Or in Sacramento where the Thunder just gave a game away, literally, by turning it over. Take those away and it’s an eight-game winning streak with three more at home this week.

But they lost them and those games revealed some flaws.

Now to the rankings:

1. Kevin Durant (Last week: 1)

Fifty-one. And not just 51, but on 28 shots. That’s silly, you guys. For the week, Durant was solid, scoring 21 against Utah, 33 against the Rockets in a loss and 23 against the Warriors. Had it not been for Sunday night, he probably would’ve fallen from this top spot, but 51 speaks for itself.

2. Russell Westbrook (Last week: 2)

It’s so like KD to trump Westbrook’s magical 40-point, nine-assist, two-turnover game with 51, but Russ might’ve been as good as he’s ever been. Don’t let the blowhards get to you raving about him taking one more shot than KD. Seven of Westbrook’s nine assists were to Durant and take special notice at the end of overtime. After Serge Ibaka records his 11th block and secures the ball, he frantically looks for someone to pass the ball to. Westbrook is literally standing a foot away, but when Ibaka turns to throw him the ball, Westbrook is pointing manically at KD. He wants Ibaka to give it to KD. He knows the Nuggets are going to foul and he knows KD is sitting on 49. This is with Westbrook sitting on 40, needing three more points himself to get to his career-high. Selfish guy that’s all in it for himself? I think not.

3. Serge Ibaka (Last week: 4)

You know what’s almost more impressive than Ibaka’s triple-double? The fact he was a +29 in an overtime game. And a game the Thunder trailed for a lot of. Via ESPN Stats and Info, the Nuggets shot 42 percent when Ibaka was in, compared to 68 percent when he was on the bench. He was so good that Scott Brooks employed a matador defensive strategy to let Denver’s scorers go to the rim. That’s confidence in your rim protector. That gives Ibaka three double-digit block games in February and he’s averaging 4.9 a game for the month. Oh, and he’s also averaging 8.9 rebounds and 9.7 points per game. No big.

4. James Harden (Last week: 3)

Two great games matched with two so-so ones. Harden was as good as you’ll see him against the Jazz, coming within a point of his career-high, scoring a Durant-esque 25 on 13 shots. But there’s no way around it: He kind of stunk offensively against the Nuggets. I say offensively because his defense late on Andre Miller was a major part of the Thunder’s win. But 2-12 from the floor for only 10 points, that’s why it took 91 combined points for the Thunder to beat a Denver team missing Gallinari and Nene. If Harden gives his usual production, it’s not that close.

5. Nick Collison (Last week: 6)

I think it says so much about Collison’s contributions that it’s a little challenging to know what to say about him here. Because the usual crap — great screens, charge-taking, good screen hedging, tipped rebounds — don’t really have the same zip to them as 51 points or a triple-double.

6. Kendrick Perkins (Last week: 5)

I have no problem defending Perk when I think he does well and saying so when he doesn’t This week wasn’t great for him. First, he missed a game. Second, he in the three games he played, he scored one point… total. The six-assist game was fun and he was tremendous on Al Jefferson, but he didn’t match up well in the Houston and Denver games, so his minutes were cut drastically. And he really didn’t have a place in the Warrior game either, so it wasn’t a big deal he sat. I’m starting to agree that maybe the Thunder are paying him too much to put up a point in week, but the Utah game drags you back to his value of defending the block.

7. Nazr Mohammed (Last week: 8)

Nazr Mohammed is back! Or, at least not playing dead anymore. His minutes were up this past week getting 18, 15, 17 and 10 the last four games and his production was better too. He started against the Warriors and put in some solid first unit minutes and his 10 minutes against Denver included a couple of nice tip-ins.

8. Daequan Cook (Last week: 7)

Counting his 1-9 shooting night from last week, Cook is 3-25 from 3 in his last five games.

9. Reggie Jackson (Last week: 9)

It’s the same story. The last three minutes of the third quarter are becoming a problem for the Thunder. That’s Jackson’s time with the offense and it’s just not consistently working. Scott Brooks may have to reconsider his rotation at that time and look to give Jackson more help. Maybe play Westbrook with him some. Maybe keep Durant in for the remainder of the third. Who knows. Jackson did have eigth assists against the Jazz, which is nice. And before playing a terrible game against the Nuggets, had 16 in the previous three games. He’s a rookie, remember?

10. Cole Aldrich (Last week: 10) 

Cole was freed, if only for a brief moment. The verdict? Jury is still out. It’s hard to really get a feel for what he can bring when he got one shot at the rotation in a game he didn’t match up well with. He was active, crashed the glass like crazy and challenged shots. He wasn’t impressive, but it’s a lot to ask of a guy to blow you away with one 10-minute stint.

11. Royal Ivey (Last week: 11)

For a second there, it looked like the Thunder had found themselves a little gold on the end of the bench. Ivey drilled three 3s against Golden State and played some great defense in the Houston game, sparking the team. But then he went 0-4 against Denver and didn’t have nearly the impact. So maybe we should hold on thinking he’s part of the rotation.

12. Ryan Reid (Last week: N/A)

Reid showed off some nice stuff in garbage time against the Warriors hitting two jumpers. But it’s his mask that I’m intrigued by. It’s got like a beak for the nose. I’ve never seen one like that.

13. Lazar Hayward (Last week: 12)

Hayward got his face broken in the blowout win over the Warriors. Not fun.

Inactives: Eric Maynor, Thabo Sefolosha

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TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I love the pic on this thread because it sums up the Thunder. Seriously? Does any sane person think there's a problem between Russ and KD?

RandomThunderFan
RandomThunderFan 5pts

@TaoMaas No.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

Pregame thread up

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

Rondo will miss Boston's road games with Dallas and Oklahoma City this week.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@Lost Ones suspended or injured? hopefully they still beat dallas tonight.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

@f5alcon@Lost Ones Should have only gotten one

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

@f5alcon@Lost Ones

looks like he got suspended 2 games. I"m pretty surprised, I didn't think he threw it with malicious intent.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Perkins should be ranked at 13 the way some of these people talk about him on here:)

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

@OkcBaby If Nene were playing last night, Perk would be #1.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

@OkcBaby Eric maynors knee>>>perkins

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

I would love to just see a bunch of the Thunder go on First Take and ask Skip for his opinion in front of all of them.

neo12
neo12 5pts

@Fezzy Skip wouldn't make it out of the set alive.. Lol

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Hey, serious question, guys. There's a lot of people who are saying "blah, blah, blah, Denver didn't have Nene, blah, blah." Don't the matchups favor Perk (I know, I know, but he's been pretty good against strong post players of Nene's type of game this season, at least to my eyes) more and we win going away because they try and force it in to Nene more?

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

@ou_sas

Just excuses. Since they traded Melo, the thunder are 7-1 against the nuggets. At some point their fans will learn to give the thunder credit, I won't hold my breath though.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

@anonymous12345 Hopefully at some point the NBA media peeps will learn that too.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@ou_sas@anonymous12345 We play down to competition and up to competition... no matter who you have, were coming for you and will probably win, and no matter who you dont have, it will be a close game cause we dont have the focus to blow out quality teams yet

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

wow thunder got a 5-5 today... i would have thought they'd do one about jeremy lin every day until the playoffs

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

I think Russ slept with Skip Bayless's daughter of wife or something.... he is completely trashing him... he calls him westbrick like 3 times in this segment.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-120220/nba-how-far-thunder-go

ghendrix6
ghendrix6 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA

Skip - "Trust me on this" LOL. Never trust anyone that has to tell you to trust them.

Skip likes to be hated. Bad attention is better than no attention and lets face it, if no one hated Skip he would not getting any attention.

ghendrix6
ghendrix6 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA

T-Storm
T-Storm 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

That guy just hates Russell. What if Russell and KD switched stats in that game? Would he have said the same things about KD? Or Harden? I doubt it. He acts like he wants KD to be a modern Wilt Chamberlain. Which, as proven by the Stilt, won't help you win games. If he's not smart enough to know that he shouldn't be an ESPN commentator.

RandomThunderFan
RandomThunderFan 5pts

@T-Storm That's exactly what I was thinking.

KD's Pocket Guide To Defying Physics
KD's Pocket Guide To Defying Physics 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA Bayless is not better than a troll on the internet, only difference is he get paid for it. You can tell by the reactions of Stephen A. Smith and the others they put opposite him, that no one really takes him all that seriously.

neo12
neo12 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA Yeah.. serious hate going on with skip..

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

@neo12@RRRWHOAAAA 20 years from now, if RW is inducted into the hall of fame, expect an MJ-like induction speech where Russ calls out Skip as his prime motivator.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

If harden could make a shot, westbrook would have had like 15 assists

T-Storm
T-Storm 5pts

@RRRWHOAAAA I agree. But not just Harden. Serge and Perk had a few from Westbrook they should have made.

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

Another interesting Thunder factoid, there are two players in NCAA tournament history to record a dirty triple: Shaq and Cole Aldrich.

Free Cole...some more.

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

Serge picked up his first Dirty triple. As far back you can go on basketball reference this is the list of dirty triples:

Dikembe Mutombo 10x

Hakeem Olajuwon 9x

David Robinson 9x

Shawn Bradley 6x

Marcus Camby 3x

Ben Wallace 2x

Benoit Benjamin

Manute Bol

Mark Eaton

Andrei Kirilenko

JaVale McGee

Larry Nance

Jermaine O'Neal

Shaquille O'Neal

Based upon their respective ages, career lengths and occurrences, Serge projects to blow them all away.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

@The_Beard_Knows Like anything with Javale McGee, his triple double is particularly funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Ur8rtAinI

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

@Jooseppi It's amusing how much they kept feeding him the ball so that he would pick up the dirty triple (Ibaka would have had 3+ this month if we treated him and the stat the same). I also find it funny, and indicative of him as a player, how much he celebrated when he picked it up...with this team down by 19.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@neo12@Jooseppi@The_Beard_Knows leave potatoes alone!

neo12
neo12 5pts

@Jooseppi@The_Beard_Knows Haha.. IQ of a potato

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

@The_Beard_Knows McGee's great at being stupid in losses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOB04HvFewA

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

@The_Beard_Knows Wow Bradley had 6 trips? and has had 5 ten block games in the same season? interesting because he doesnt get much respect when looking at all time great centers, even if your talking about top 40

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

A little basketball-reference comparison. Other players who've hit 51+ in 28 shots or less:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=51&c2stat=fga&c2comp=lt&c2val=28&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Interesting company you keep, KD.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@ou_sas jordan is 6 of the 30 times. Malone did it with no 3 pt shots.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

@f5alcon 4 of MJ's times were with no 3 pointers (3 with no 3 point shots).

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

@ou_sas You get 10 Jax points for providing a list with my favorite childhood player, Vernon Maxwell. You get 10 more Jax points for shocking me that Jermaine O'Neal is in that list. 20 Jax points is nothing to scoff at sir, kudos to you.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Jax Raging Bile Duct What shocks me most about that list is Karl Malone game at number 1: 21 of 26 for 61 points. That's a .808 fg%. Unreal.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

Westbrook is officially shooting 47%+ wow

koolcrud
koolcrud 5pts

Here's an idea. How about Cole Aldrich and our 1st for DJ Augustin? Bobcats get a promising young big man asset in Alrdich who they will have the minutes to properly develop. Him and Biyombo could one day be an excellent defensive front line. They also get another desperately needed draft pick for the rebuilding effort.Thunder get a great back-up PG in Augustin who already has familiarity and a great relationship with Durant from their time together at Texas. Furthermore, he is a proven scorer and a 38% career shooter from 3, so he could inject some much needed scoring prowess to a bench that really lacks any besides Harden. I think ths works for both teams and could get done.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

@koolcrud Here's an idea, how about Cole Aldrich for a case of gatorade, a bag of sunflower seeds and some icey hot? At least those are things that would help the rest of the guys on the team unlike Cole Aldrich whose trade value will drop to zero once the rest of the league realizes he's basically a shorter Shawn Bradley.

Darin
Darin 5pts

@Old Man Game@koolcrud

I would give Perk away and throw in a bag of sunflower seeds to sweeten the deal.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@koolcrud How about Perkins+Cook for Gortat?

koolcrud
koolcrud 5pts

@ILikePancakes That offer would get laughed out of Phoenix.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

@koolcrud no how about perkins for augustin

koolcrud
koolcrud 5pts

@Lost Ones I like Perkins for a variety of playoff match-ups, so I'd rather keep him.

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

@koolcrud

Too much to give up for someone that you're probably just renting for the rest of the season.

koolcrud
koolcrud 5pts

@anonymous12345 Is it really though? We're talking about a guy averaging 6 min/game and a pick who will almost certainly not crack the rotation for the foreseeable future. Right now, back-up PG is a problem, and it's not one that will go away in the playoffs with team's like the Spurs (Neal), Mavs (Beaubois), Clippers (Mo Williams) and Nuggets (Andre Miller) employing stellar guys in that spot. Augustin might be a starter for the Bobcats, but I think most could agree that he's not starter quality for the better teams in the league.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

@koolcrud@anonymous12345 That guy averaging six minutes will probably be the first big off the bench in a couple of years if not the starting center.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@koolcrud backup PG is not a big problem, reggie is playing fine for what we need him to do, and he isnt losing us games, and there is maybe 1 or 2 games that would have changed outcomes if maynor was here.

HookemKD
HookemKD 5pts

@koolcrud Augustin isn't a backup PG, not sure we would have the salary for him. Although the more Longhorns the better, especially in Oklahoma =)

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