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Too Much Tony: The Spurs kill the Thunder from deep, 107-96

by Royce Young on February 4, 2012 at 10:33 pm 219 Comments

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It’s hard to be surprised at Saturday’s outcome. Doesn’t mean it’s any less frustrating though.

The excuses are there and they are good ones. Second night of a back-to-back (after some guys played 40+ minutes) and on the road against the best home team in the league. Still, knowing how good the Thunder can be and are, watching them run mindlessly around the perimeter searching for open San Antonio shooters was a bit upsetting.

The Thunder did two things really poor against the Spurs: offense and defense. Other than that, they were pretty good. I guess there’s a reason San Antonio is tough to beat in their own building — they don’t miss much. Especially when left wide the eff open. The great fear when playing the Spurs is that their whole pick-and-roll, drive-and-kick game gets cooking and it did in the first quarter erasing a hot Thunder start with a 13-2 run. After that, it was pretty much all over. Mainly because Tony Parker wasn’t about to let Oklahoma City really get back in the game.

Parker didn’t score all 107 of San Antonio’s points, but it sure felt that way. He finished with 42 on 16-29 shooting along with nine assists and was there to snuff out any momentum the Thunder built. He was like Jar Jar Binks. Every time the movie started looking good, Jar Jar Parker would show up and completely ruin everything.

Not to take anything away from how good Parker was, but this had to be Russell Westbrook’s weakest defensive effort of the season. Westbrook appeared to be frustrated with Serge Ibaka’s communication in the pick-and-roll, but Westbrook didn’t get through screens well and just got torched consistently by Parker’s step-back jumpers and runners in the paint. Westbrook’s defense has been really pretty good this year, but there’s no way around it — Parker smoked him.

It appeared that Scott Brooks was pulling a Gregg Popovich by conceding the game early when he started the fourth without a starter on the floor along with Lazar Hayward. I think Brooks was planning on just sort of waving the white flag, but the second unit put together a little 17-5 run and cut the Spurs lead down to nine with 8:26 left. But Brooks stuck with that second unit that was playing well while on the other side, Popovich had brought back Parker and Duncan. I think Brooks gaffed here by not immediately responding with Durant and Westbrook once the Thunder showed life. Yeah, the second unit was playing well, but honestly, how long can you expect a unit of Reggie Jackson, Harden, Daequan Cook, Hayward and Nick Collison to keep scoring? Brooks eventually brought back his horses with 6:50 left, but it was two minutes too late. The Thunder were down 13 and while they got it to nine once more, the comeback ship had already sailed.

I know some might feel like freaking a bit by saying things like, “I told you we’re not elite!” and “We have GOT to make a trade if we’re going to compete!” but let’s call this like it is: The Thunder were tired, flat and unfocused. They didn’t defend well and the Spurs didn’t miss much. No revealing warts, no signs of bigger issues. Sometimes you lose. Would you believe that no team has ever gone 82-0 (or 66-0)? An ugly, frustrating loss but that’s pretty much it. Really nothing more, and nothing less than that.

NOTES:

  • You know what silently killed the Thunder outside of the bad defense and simplistic offense? Free throw shooting. Normally a weapon for OKC, the Thunder went 17-28 from the line. That’s 11 potential points left 15 feet away from the basket.
  • By the way, the Thunder lost by 11.
  • The Spurs were a +15 from the 3-point line. They actually only made one more basket than the Thunder, but the +15 from 3 and +4 from the free throw line added up to more points for them. MATH.
  • Here’s why the Spurs are so stinking good at getting shooters open: The ball moves faster than a person, which is something the Spurs understand and take advantage of as good as anyone in the league. They love to collapse a defense, kick out and then swing the ball around. No matter how hard the Thunder try to contest and rotate, you just can’t outrun the ball.
  • Westbrook broke an ugly streak of five straight games with five or more turnovers by only turning it over three times tonight. Yay Russ.
  • KD had his fifth straight double-double, which is nice. He looked like he was in store for a big time night early on, but cooled off finishing with 11 rebounds and 22 on 9-19 shooting. Four assists and four blocks though.
  • Just 13 turnovers for OKC. That’s good, right?
  • Harden scored 19 on the road too. The positives are EVERYWHERE for this game!
  • Serge Ibaka’s free throw shooting has really regressed. He hovered around 80 percent for most of last season and finished at 75 percent. After a 2-7 effort from the line against the Spurs, he’s down to 56 percent on this season.
  • You can tell when Daequan Cook is feeling good about his shot because his release gets really quick. He was forced to force some 3s, but hit 4-10 from deep.
  • Cook also took his first two free throws of the season.
  • Not often do you see the Thunder lose when they have six guys score in double-figures. But 42 from Parker, 13 from Duncan and 15 unexpected points from Kawhi Leornard was too much.
  • Cole Aldrich’s 3-point celebration is one of my favorite developments of this season. And we were treated to some Aldrich garbage time, which is always fun.
  • Got no problem saying it tonight: Perk wasn’t good. Largely because he couldn’t stay on the floor. He picked up two fouls in about 90 seconds to start the game and only got 17 minutes total. Tim Duncan pretty much worked Perk over in the pick-and-pop game too as Perk was too slow to recover. There were possessions where Perk was almost moving while standing still in the paint as the ball whizzed around the perimeter.
  • This upcoming stretch of games is a bit scary now that the Thunder started off with a loss to the Spurs. At Portland, at Golden State, at Sacramento, at Utah. Honestly, returning back 3-2 from this trip would be a massive win in my mind.
  •  Brian Davis Line of the Night: “You know the French are very passionate people. It was probably an empathetic response.”

 Next up: At Portland Monday.

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courtsense
courtsense 5pts

Parker now has 67 points, 24 assists, and zero turnovers today - and he's not even playing.

courtsense
courtsense 5pts

Westbrook just turned the ball over in his Portland hotel room...looks like I picked the wrong day to stop drinking.

courtsense
courtsense 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Parker just scored again on a floater in the paint...and the game ended 17 hours ago.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

I think @SammyThunderer makes a good point about Cole as the role man on the pick and roll. We saw it last night. He can catch and he can finish in a way that neither Perk, nor Serge nor Nazr can do. Obviously Nazr and Perk can catch, but they lack the athleticism to finish. Serge has the athleticism but lacks the hands to make the catch. Cole has both and especially against second stringers in the NBA it would seem a fair way to manufacture some buckets.

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@Old Man Game We've seen time and again with Collison that just having a guy that can catch an open pass on the move is a great pressure valve since the defense is usually so consumed by containing our perimeter players. Cole has more length and he's shown he's adept at catching the ball high and keeping it high and finishing at the rim. That's all we really need.

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@SammyThunderer@Old Man Game Cole also REBOUNDS WITH TWO HANDS.

thunderstruck87
thunderstruck87 5pts

@Old@[censored] @SammyThunderer Man Game The only bright side I see is that it looks like Cole is def looking promising... I think it's obvious he is putting the work in to improve... Excited to see what his future holds

Old Man from Oil country
Old Man from Oil country 5pts

@SammyThunderer@Old Man Game Pressure from front office to justify Perkins' salary?

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

If something were to happen to Nazr would Brooks be more likely to play Cole a few minutes a game or stick to an 8 man rotation? I mean we could play Durant at the 5 and Cook at the 4 to make sure Cole stays off the court.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

@The_Beard_Knows I bet money Brooks would just shorten his rotation. I've lost all faith in Brooks to give Cole a chance.

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Remify
Remify 5pts

@deleted_1998213_Don'tStoptheSergeing does Brooks not realize it cannot get worse at C right now? Maybe send a message to Perk. But no, they are winning why change anything. Considering they haven't played anyone good except the 3 games (1-2), I would think long and hard if I was Brooks.

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

@Remify@deleted_1998213_Don'tStoptheSergeing Cole is essentially tied for first in PER with Dwight Howard (unqualified in minutes still). Nazr is 58th, Perk 65th.

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts

@deleted_1998213_Don'tStoptheSergeing Where's that?

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

@deleted_1998213_Don'tStoptheSergeing Brooks just isn't as desperate as we all our to see something different in that center position. To his credit he does see him every day in practice so I guess we have to at least acknowledge there may be some rational reason for this. Of course he saw Mullens everyday too.

Crow
Crow 5pts

@deleted_1998213_Don'tStoptheSergeing sigh.

Remify
Remify 5pts

Miami 42-28 Duke in NC. Lolwut?

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Tony Parker made the thunder feel used and abused

Crow
Crow 5pts

@OkcBaby it is a compliment that the spurs took this game in feb. so serious.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

@Crow@OkcBaby i guess every team will though. Best record = target

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Pleiss appears to be been the 6th man on the best team in the German league. But they didn't make the top 16 in the Euroleague, going 3-7. Having Pleiss make it easier to let Mullens go of course. Pretty good shooter but also a pretty good rebounder. Hope he joins the team next season.

Krstic is ranked the 2nd best player in the euroleague on their "index" of performance.

Pillendreher
Pillendreher 5pts

@Crow As far as Pleiss goes, he wouldn't grab even one rebound in a NBA game. He's way, way softer than Pau Gasol...and even Pau got called soft ;)

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Pillendreher okay, you are not impressed? anything positive about him from watching him?

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Remify@Pillendreher yeah offbalance but did what he had to make the shot

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Pillendreher@The_Beard_Knows nothing fancy but here is pleiss in good position, clean catch, dunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBBWnbUBlek

Crow
Crow 5pts

@SammyThunderer diddoff said a few days ago: " Little side note: Some Thunder scouts watched Tibor Pleiss last weekend." I missed that before.

Remify
Remify 5pts

@Crow@Pillendreher In the interview he said OKC scout has been scouting for a while before drafting him. That's encouraging, considering our scouts snuffed out Russ and Harden who thought to be reaches in the draft initially.

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Pillendreher might be trying to get too wide.

and yet not low enough.

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Pillendreher offensively.

not sure about his defensive quickness.

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts

@Crow That's nice. Good to hear what he's been up to.

Remify
Remify 5pts

@Pillendreher@Crow both, hopefully. But i think they are talking about offensively.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

@Crow That's encouraging. Sounds like he's got a good head on his shoulders. Always a plus.

Pillendreher
Pillendreher 5pts

@Crow Defensively or Offensively?

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Pillendreher pleiss is active / creative moving on the pick n roll

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Pillendreher ok. sounds like he is waiting another year and recognizes that he still has a mountain to climb

http://www.heinnews.com/basketball/nba/pleiss-%E2%80%9Cnba-hype-a-curse%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%9Cclimbing-a-mountain-to-peak%E2%80%9D/

Pillendreher
Pillendreher 5pts

@The_Beard_Knows@Crow First Perk gotta learn how to jump :D

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

@Pillendreher@Crow He could teach Perk how to shoot a baby hook.

Crow
Crow 5pts

@The_Beard_Knows@Pillendreher i think it was from october, will look for something more current.

Remify
Remify 5pts

@Old Man Game@Crow@Pillendreher hmm, weird. But Jennings is used to the US style of play, maybe he just didnt fit. Maybe it was language barrier, who knows. Maybe he just didn't feel like trying. I read somewhere his interview about playing in Europe. He said it was the worst experience of his life.

Pillendreher
Pillendreher 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Crow I gotta admit I don't watch the german basketball league regularly (NBA takes enough time already). But during the European Championships, I didn't like Pleiss performance. He doesn't seem strong enough to me to compete with NBA centers....espcecially rebounding wise and defensively. Offensively, he might be able to score (big might)...but I don't see how Pleiss could be a rotation player in the NBA.

Remify
Remify 5pts

@The_Beard_Knows@Crow@Pillendreher Krstic is a num 2 player in the whole Euro league. Im not sure Pleiss is even a 3rd stringer for 66ers yet. Watching some highlights, there are just a bunch of scrubs who play 0 defense.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

@Crow@Remify@Pillendreher I wouldn't read too much into the numbers guys put up over there. Brandon Jennings put up 7.6 ppg in Europe and then came over her and had a 50 point game as a rookie. Something about the style of play is just enough different that it isn't necessarily a direct indicator of success or failure in the NBA.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001219

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

@Crow@Pillendreher maybe they were the announcers we had to listen to last night when the all the english feeds cut out.

I am not sure that this is a new highlight reel, I know it was just posted. If it is than he has not developed much. I am not sure that he has the ability to be a third string center for us.

Remify
Remify 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Crow@Pillendreher Lol. Teebor Playysss.

Here is a recent vid. Hes 21 in the gray unis. Very impressive play at 3:18.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EXY6Sux9AU

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Remify@Pillendreher i like the announcers. get them for the thunder

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts

@Crow@Pillendreher He is tall and uhh moderately fluid shooting mechanics.

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Remify@Pillendreher watching that video i wouldnt say he plays strong but it looks like he tries and has basketball smarts

Remify
Remify 5pts

@Crow@Pillendreher he looks like Marc Gasol type player to me.

Remify
Remify 5pts

@Crow Ohh God, if Krstic is 2nd best player in the Euroleague and Pleiss is a 6th man on a team thats not even top 16 in the Euroleague. What does that tell you?

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@Remify it tells me not to pay much attention to european basketball.

Remify
Remify 5pts

@Crow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9vcnAs2f-Y

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Remify i might watch some youtube on him, to check further

Crow
Crow 5pts

@Remify i guess. more toyour question, it also tells me that pleiss is still young, that eurpoean coaches don't like to use young players and that pleiss is still a project and i guess might need to incumbate another year or two and might not be much of an nba player. too early to say.

Remify
Remify 5pts

@Crow Adam Morisson was dominating Euro in Serbia. That makes me think Pleiss is a joke.

Crow
Crow 5pts

AK-47 was first.

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