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Monday Bolts – 4.23.12

by Royce Young on April 23, 2012 at 8:14 am 180 Comments

Ken Berger of CBSSports.com: “So the collision of all these factors, plus the NBA’s renewed emphasis on protecting players from blows to the head with its concussion policy, bodes very poorly for World Peace. What he did was unnecessary, excessive, dangerous and with full force, a windup and a follow-through. The fact that Harden was OK won’t matter when Jackson and league officials come up with the length of World Peace’s suspension. What if his elbow had connected with Harden’s face? It might’ve been Kermit Washington vs. Rudy Tomjanovich all over again. And that is what the NBA wants and needs to prevent, which is why I wouldn’t oppose or be surprised by a suspension that’s at least three games in length. And possibly more than that. There’s no place for that in the NBA, and if a heavy suspension is what it takes to send that message before the playoffs begin, so be it.”

J.A. Adande of ESPN.com: “The NBA should suspend World Peace indefinitely, see how many games (if any) Harden will miss, then tack on two to that number. Especially since we just witnessed a case study in Harden’s value to the Thunder. Oklahoma City’s second-half offense without Harden devolved into Kevin Durant chucking jumpers and Russell Westbrook careening into the lane, both with minimal ball movement. Harden is the heart of the Thunder’s second unit and provides a nice balance to Westbrook and Durant when he plays alongside them. Harden scored 14 points in little more than 13 minutes in the first half — before World Peace clocked him. The seven guys besides Durant and Westbrook who played in the second half and both overtimes scored a total of 23 points in a combined 106 minutes. Durant wound up with 35 points, but he required 34 shots to get there. Westbrook shot 3-for-22.”

Matt Moore for PBT: “James Harden’s primary contributions are running an efficient offense and thereby limiting turnovers, creating open looks, and being able to score. Down the stretch, the Thunder needed cohesive offense and a few more scores to win in regulation, or overtime. Or double overtime. Harden wouldn’t have stopped Kobe Bryant. A nuclear weapon wasn’t stopping Kobe Bryant Sunday. But he might have given the Thunder a lift in their biggest area of concern, offense.”

Quick question: What is Perk doing here?

Metta World Peace tweeting: “I just watched the replay again….. Oooo.. My celebration of the dunk really was too much… Didn’t even see James ….. Omg… Looks bad.” Honestly I’d up the suspension for this. Trying to play innocent on this is just insulting to everyone.

Thunder players took the high road for the most part.

Eric Freeman of BDL: “The entire incident happened very quickly, so much so that it’s hard to know exactly what World Peace intended to do. What’s apparent is that he felt Harden and responded by swinging an elbow. However, MWP also didn’t look over his shoulder to see who it was and seemed to throw his elbow as an impulse rather than with the intention to hit a player in the head. It was reckless and absolutely worthy of the ejection and suspension to come, but the exact intent of the action might be impossible to determine.”

Kevin Arnovitz of ESPN.com: “MWP should be suspended for the first two rounds of the playoffs. If the league wants to deter this kind of behavior, then deter.”

Kobe Bryant: “I can’t speculate (how many games),” Bryant said. “I’m sure he’ll have some type of a suspension. And James, I hope he’s OK. I haven’t heard anything about how he’s doing, but he’s one of my favorite players in the league, one of my young boys, so I hope he’s doing all right.”

Mike Bresnahan of the L.A. Times: “Beyond blowing an 18-point lead, the Thunder had plenty of chances to win, including Durant’s missed three-point attempt at the end of regulation and Russell Westbrook’s missed three-point attempt at the end of the first overtime. Stunningly, Durant made only 11 of 34 shots (32%) and Westbrook made only three of 22 attempts (14%), blurring the distinction between a lucky victory and a skillful one for the Lakers, who before Sunday had been 1-4 against the West’s top two teams, San Antonio and Oklahoma City. Bryant was only two for 13 going into the fourth quarter. Not surprisingly, he hit back-to-back three-pointers in the last 1:20 of regulation, including a running one-footer to his left as the shot clock expired.”

Ben Bolch of the L.A. Times: “The numbers were painfully percolating in the Oklahoma City locker room late Sunday afternoon. Russell Westbrook sat in a chair, shoulders slumped, repeatedly shaking his head. “Unbelievable,” the Thunder guard said to himself. A few feet away, Kevin Durant asked a team official for a stat sheet. “I can count at least eight or nine shots I had wide open,” Durant told Westbrook.”

Marc Spears of Yahoo! Sports on Harden’s future: “If Harden and Ibaka don’t sign extensions, they will become restricted free agents at the end of next season. One NBA assistant general manager told Yahoo! Sports that Harden could command $10 million per season on the open market. Presti said the franchise will try to sign both Harden and Ibaka this offseason. “We’re looking forward to having those conversations,” Presti said. “Those guys are guys we drafted and have developed internally. We see them as guys who are important to sustaining our team.”

15 things a young player can learn from KD.

Nick Collison on the Derek Fisher/Billy Hunter situation: “With the way the lockout went for us, I don’t think it’d be perceived as a win for players — by any means — among most players and among most people who followed it,” he told SI.com. “So I think it would be definitely beneficial to take a look at our union, how we’re doing business and how things are run and see if we can make improvements … I definitely think that Derek has earned at least the right to have reservations, if he does. And for the next step to be to try to get rid of him a day or two later after asking to take a look at how we do business doesn’t seem right to me … The whole idea that it’s possible to get rid of him after a day or two speaks to the need for more transparency in how we do business and how the union is set up,” he continued. “A swift action and all of a sudden to try to get rid of Derek — if that’s what happening — doesn’t seem right, I don’t think, to anybody. He’s elected by the players, and I think there definitely needs to be more conversation to what’s going on with this issue.”

A Thunder rap song called “Blue and Orange.”

Chris Palmer of ESPN.com on if Durant or Kobe is better: “Durant will likely be an MVP candidate for the next 10 years. His combination of pure talent, rapid improvement and physical ability has earned him a spot as one of the league’s three or four best players. Kobe is winding down one of the greatest careers the NBA has ever seen, one that Durant himself hopes to emulate. But at least for now, Durant can revel in the knowledge that he’s a better player than Kobe Bryant.”

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Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

When Skip Bayless Comes back to OKC imma have to holla at Greg Williams!!!

vincefee
vincefee 5pts

OKC is a very young team that is getting better every year. Give them time to mature. I think Sam Presti knows what he is doing

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

Right now we're looking at Dallas in the First round and likely the Lakers in the second. Anyone else find it ironically appropriate that we beat the two teams who elminated us in the playoffs the last two years on the way to our first world title?

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

I wanted to hear Perkins response to Metta World piece of my elbow. I was disappointed. He seems to defend Artest. I wanted something like: "let's see him try that to me!" but got "...he's a good dude...". Seriously?

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @Thunderman Not sure, but I think that was from an interview immediately post-game.  I'm thinking he hadn't seen the replay yet.

SB718
SB718 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Thunderman What do you prefer a bunch of useless tough talk?  He doesn't get enough attention from the refs already?

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

@SB718 @Thunderman good Point. Just want more heart!

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Thunderman He's saving it for the second round.

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

What an unlikley day (Earth Day) for MWP to channel Ron Artest.

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

If you are ready to move past the Idiot Formerly Known Metta World Peace Who was Formerly Known as Ron Artest, I suggest you not read the MWP Twitter feed for the past 24 hrs.  Can you say CYA?

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/04/thunder-player-power-rankings-hardware-for-serge-ibaka/

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

Artest should be done for the first round, and then should be allowed to come into OKC and play. I want the fans to jeer him loudly and then get a "Metta World Piece of Shit" chant going. Then, when he gets mad with a foaming mouth and jumps into the stands again to take on 18,000 people, the league will finally rid itself of his cancerous ass once and for all. Good riddance. 

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @C_Dub lol "MWPOS" would be the longest, most jumbled chant ever. I vote for bmuelle2112's more simplistic "World Peace Sucks!"

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

i will say it would be pretty funny getting a world peace sucks chant started in the 2nd round of the playoffs

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

 @bmuelle2112

 And every time the PA announcer says "World Peace," everyone yells "SUCKS."

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

 @bmuelle2112

 A slight variatin on that theme:  Instead of the typical free blue tee shirts for the playoffs, have a special LA version with "WORLD PEACE SUCKS" on the back and everyone turns their back on him during the player intros.

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

Maybe Artest should enroll in Perk's seminar on How to Better Control Your Emotions So You Don't Cause Injury to Your Team or Others.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Ban World Peace maybe during his kids camp...too soon?

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @Ban World Peace

 Excellent point.  Then when Ron accepts his next Citizen of the Year/Decade/Century award, he can credit Perk and the Beard for making him who he is and doing what he does.

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

"Where he doesn't erupt too much" - not very comforting.

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

More stereotypical Kobe-esque quote on the elbow: "Him getting ejected could have really hurt us. In that sense, he's really going to have to control himself and pay attention in those moments where he doesn't erupt too much." -- Kobe Bryant, on Metta World Peace

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

Did not realize just how strong MWP is. The guy is 6'7 but weighs 260 pounds!

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

What's the most recent update on Harden?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @dancassidy35 haven't seen anything since they announced he has a concussion...hopefully we'll hear more later today

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @dancassidy35 his house geust/rapper Privaledge said on twitter that he was fine

MartzMimic
MartzMimic 5pts

Isn't a flagrant 2 an automatic suspension for the next game? If so, it shouldn't be included in the total suspension.

SB718
SB718 5pts

 @MartzMimic No

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

Its time for skip to admit it...he's a spurs fan! he might not have been when the year started because the spurs got tossed out of the 1st round last year but the truth is he's a spurs fan. He tuned into that game yesterday hoping his favorite team would lock the number one spot up.

Durienne
Durienne 5pts

 @OBoymuzik He's admittedly a Spurs fan.  He'd be yelling for a permaban to MWPOS if he had decked his beloved Tony Parker like that.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Durienne he also said he's a thunder fan

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

i have a bad feeling that harden's concussion may be one of the lingering type one's where it will be weeks before he will be fully free from concussion like symptoms...and with how the new NBA concussion policy is we could see harden out for a couple of weeks.

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @bmuelle2112 just a statistic to calm the fears a little bit. Most concussions resolve within 7-10 days, and research found that 90% of collegiate athletes had their symptoms resolve within 7 days. Typical return to play protocol lasts about 5-7 days after symptoms resolved, so it's very likely we see him back within 2 weeks.

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts

Interesting fact.... Neither Boxing or MMA allow hits back of the head behind the ear.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

@Skyline If you throw an elbow like Artest did in boxing, If it was Pacquiou or Mayweather, they would almost certaintly be fined 1/4th of their yearly income, and be suspended for a few fights. If it was the lower card fighters they would almost be banned from fighting. Ever since the Tyson Ear Biting, they have gotten very very strict. Also in MMA(NOT WEAK UFC), you would be suspended for a year.

SB718
SB718 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'm tired of talking about this elbow already (provided Beard is ok).

 

In other news: http://nba-point-forward.si.com/##?sct=nba_wr_a7

 

If you mistakenly thought somebody other than LeBron was MVP(KD especially) I hope that sheds light for you.  And if it doesn't read it again....and again....and again....and however many times it takes.

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts

Can the Thunder win first round playoffs without Harden?

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @Skyline if it's against Denver yeah, sure. I'm not losing any sleep over it.

SB718
SB718 5pts

 @Skyline Hope the question remains unanswered.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @Skyline Probably

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @dancassidy35  @Skyline yeah most likely..yesterday was tough because we had to leave thabo out there so we coudn't put in cook and we couldn't go small and run because of gasol at the 4

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Now Skip is talking about Russ and KD.  I want to punch the screen

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Skip said in so many words, that Harden instigated the situation by bumping into Artest and that Artest finished it. 

 

Disgusting. 

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

 @C_Dub I hate Skip Bayless!!! I wanna punch him in the face!

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

If Skip believes a violent elbow to the head is a justifiable response to someone interfering with your celebration I'd love for him to volunteer himself to receive the same treatment.

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @C_Dub

 I suggest Harden issue an apology to Artest...and have it delivered by Serge.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

i don't understand why people think harden intentionally bumped into artest...if you look at the replay you can see that he was positioning himself to get the inbounds pass from serge 

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

Fully expect Bayless to blame Russ for The Elbow before the day is over.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

OMG Skip has come to a new Low.  I didnt think it could be any worse.  Skip is exiled from OKC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Durienne
Durienne 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OkcBaby You can guarantee that Skippy Clueless would be singing a different tune if MWPOS  had done this to his beloved Tony Parker.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @OkcBaby whatd he say

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @OBoymuzik He said that Harden instigated it

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OkcBaby  @OBoymuzik Who do we reward for good behavior? Those people are called "inmates". 

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @OBoymuzik and that he artest deserves a pass for good behavior. 

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