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OKC gets by the pesky Wolves, 115-110

by Royce Young on April 14, 2012 at 10:12 pm 213 Comments

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Well, it was probably a little more challenging than it should have been, but the Thunder are leaving Minnesota with a win. It would be easy to nitpick this one for issues exposed or blah blah blah, but really, on the road this late in the season, it’s just about winning and moving on.

Yeah, the Wolves shot 50 percent from the field. They scored 110 points on Oklahoma City without Kevin Love. The Thunder missed a number of opportunities to put the Wolves away in the second half, but never could completely finish them off. I think that’s more of a credit to them than it was an indictment on the way OKC played in this game. That’s a sweep of the Wolves and the Thunder’s 12th straight over Minnesota. It’s not easy to beat anyone that much.

To be quite honest, I didn’t get much out of this game other than the fact the Thunder won it, and that it served as a friendly reminder that Kevin Durant is absurdly good at this whole basketball thing. His fourth quarter was stupid. He scored 20 of his 43 (that came on just 23 shots) in the last 12 minutes, with foul trouble benching him for the last eight minutes of the third. He was clearly itching to get back on the floor and do what he was put on Earth to do — score.

That fourth quarter really could be a mixtape for Durant all on its own. He showcased how insanely full his offensive arsenal is. He scored off screens. He scored off the dribble. In the post. In the paint, from 3, got to the line. Fadeaways, runners, baby hooks. You name it and Durant did it. I can’t even imagine what it must be like for a defender caught in an iso situation with him. I’m surprised more guys don’t pee down their leg and ask to leave the floor when that happens. Because most times, you’re not really going to stop Durant. As Rick Carlisle said earlier in the year, really the best defense for KD is to just hope he misses.

The rest of the heavy lifting was done by Westbrook who carried the load in the third while Durant sat with foul trouble. Russ finished with 35 and eight assists, 14 of those points coming in a late third quarter flurry. Really, it was a fine example of how you can cut one head of the monster, but unless you get both, you’re still screwed. Durant sat, so Westbrook stepped up and carried the scoring burden. Until of course KD returned to the floor and finished things off. Kind of a beautiful thing, actually. And a nice demonstration of how very well Westbrook and Durant are working in concert this season, scoring off each other without any stressful, tense offensive possessions of trying to figure out who is supposed to shoot.

James Harden was off (just 1-of-11 for six points) after returning from a sore knee, so it really was the Thunder’s outstanding two-headed attack that did the work tonight. The Wolves tried to use a similar approach, only their two heads were Michael Beasley and J.J. Barea. Not quite the same punch in that one.

That’s four wins in five tries for OKC, with the one loss being the game given away to the Clippers. I don’t know if the Thunder are necessarily playing their best basketball by any means, but that’s another hole punched for OKC and it’s on to the next one.

NOTES:

  • To single out one of KD’s moves, his iso jab step has become one of his very best. He loves to use it when he’s on the left wing. He hard jabs once like he’s going to drive to the paint and then goes baseline. He does it super quick before there can be any rotation or help on it, which is what makes it so difficult to combat.
  • KD high-fived a little kid wearing a Thunder jersey after an and-1 dunk. Super cool.
  • 4:04 left in the second quarter, Thabo kicked out to a wide open Westbrook at the 3-point line. Again, wide open. However, one more pass and Harden is equally open on the 3-point line. That’s a place that Russ needs to recognize and swing it one extra time to the better shooter. Not because he should be point guarding and all that stuff, but because that’s the smart play.
  • Nikola Pekovic looks like such a Nikola Pekovic.
  • Monster rebounding edge for a second straight night for OKC, 53-39.
  • Serge Ibaka with another quality performance — eight points, 12 boards and five blocks. It’s almost becoming standard for him.
  • KD has had the most 40-point games against the Wolves in NBA history. Kind of neat.
  • A lot of people asked, but KD needed 70 points tonight to take over the scoring lead from Kobe. He’s now averaging 27.8 to Kobe’s 28.1.
  • In the fourth quarter, there was a jump ball between Derek Fisher and J.J. Barea. Go ahead and make sure to keep that ball to send to Springfield. (If you’re wondering, Barea won. Surprised?)
  • It was really subtle, but after KD scored on a shot where he lost the ball and it came back to him, he let out an awesome little smirk like, “I don’t know what the crap that was, but it worked.”
  • Anthony Randolph just looks sad all the time. He did score 22 points though.
  • It’s kind of incredible how often Fisher shoots a 3 with his toe on the line.
  • Nick Collison had 10 points and eight rebounds, but was somehow a -8. It was a very Nick Collison game, without being a very Nick Collison game, if that makes sense.
  • Durant and Westbrook had 78 points and the other three Thunder starters had 19.
  • What was up with the weird drumming during the game? It sounded like the saddest Brazilian soccer match ever.
  • I think Ibaka is better at throwing at outlet pass with a block than with an actual pass.
  • Attention Martell Webster: A headband did not make your hair look any better.
  • Brian Davis Line of the Night: “To the 10, to the five, touchdown Michael Beasley.”

Next up: At the Clippers Monday.

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mracesmith
mracesmith 5pts

The thunder are going all the way and their dominance continues tonight against the team they lost 2 of 3 against this year aka the clips! Im picking them to win and cover and i have why,how to bet it and a great preview right here! http://nbawagers.com/2012/04/the-best-nba-betting-advise-on-the-web-for-thunder-at-clippers/

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

Westbrook's having an amazing season:

 

Hollinger's efficiency......................7th

Hollinger's Value added................6th

Hollinger's Estimated Wins...........6th

Season Overall +/-...........................4th

 

I am the first to admit that these stats have serious flaws but they are still a good indicator that Westbrook is in the elite of the elite players in the world.  If he doesn't make the Olympic Squad, it's a complete joke, imo.

Loose Sluggage
Loose Sluggage 5pts

Am watching 'Gran Torino' on TNT for the first time. Is it trammel that calls perk gran Torino? Gotta say it's a pretty apt moniker which makes me wonder if I've got trammel confused w/somebody else.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

Gran Torino is a great motion picture. If it didn't win best picture that year--it should have. Clint Eastwood was superb. Yes, it was Tremel who started calling Perk by the moniker of Gran Torino. Quite frankly--I think it is one of the more clever lines Tremel has coined in regards to the Thunder. The only person in this market you could confuse Tremel with would possibly be Jenni Tremel his younger sister scribe.

Loose Sluggage
Loose Sluggage 5pts

@El Prez It's a solid flick but seems to me that if Clint doesn't exacerbate the situation by roughing up & threatening the gangsters, maybe the family's house doesn't get shot up & the girl doesn't get violated. Surely Perk would think through the consequences a little more thoroughly before going off half-cocked like that.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

Okay . . . last movie comment before we get reprimanded for being off-topic.  :)   (although I guess this thread is a little outdated by now)

 

My first list had the chickiest movies I could think of off the top of my head.  Four Weddings and a Funeral--gotta say the W.H. Auden poem is one of the best to appear in any movie ever.  Also, I forgot to mention the movie that made me start loving movies: On Golden Pond.

 

If I ever meet you in person at a dt function, I know what we'll be talking about during the timeouts.  :)

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

Both your sarcastic list and your real one were pretty good actually. Steel Magnolias was out there. I'm glad that was sarcasm...I was a little concerned. Sigh. Forrest Gump No. 11 on my list. Shawshank Redemption No. 2 on my list. Sideways No. 49 on my list. About Schmidt--a little too dark for me. We're talking about the Jack Nicholson movie, right? Little Miss Sunshine maybe No. 18 on my list--great movie and I'm a big fan of Greg Kinear. Cast Away--pass. 127 Hours great movie, tough subject matter--it didn't make my list. American Beauty just a classic which maybe is No. 12 on my list. Bayless should have made a cameo appearance in this movie as the lover of Spacey's neighbor. Would have been a nice touch in the storyline. I'm glad to know the chick flick list was not the real one. The rest of my Top 20 goes like this maybe...

No. 13  Fargo

No. 14  No Country For Old Men

No. 15 Inglorious Basterds

No. 16 Hoosiers

No. 17 Kramer vs. Kramer

No. 18 Little MIss Sunshine

No. 19 Bull Durham

No.  20 Four Weddings and a Funeral 

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @El Prez

 . . . and gee we're really off the subject of basketball!  'Night all. . . .

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @El Prez

 That was my sarcastic list. . . . although I must admit I saw the IMAX version of Titanic today and still cried a couple of times.  Here's the real list in no particular order: Forrest Gump, Shawshank Redemption, Sideways, American Beauty, The Truman Show, About Schmidt, (then top 3) Little Miss Sunshine, Cast Away, and 127 Hours.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

TChick--look at you... a romantic at heart. Titantic is a classic and in my Top 50, as is Terms of Endearment with Nicholson, Shirley Mac, Debra Winger, and Jeff Daniels. I might have Terms of Endearment in my Top 20. Just a great movie.Steel Magnolias just didn't do it for me. You've Got Mail was a nice evening of chick flick viewing, but if I'm gonna go Meg Ryan--then I'm might go When Harry Met Sally or Sleepless in Seattle.  I liked You've Got Mail Though. Sling Blade--very good movie. Not sure if I wanna go Top 50, but a semi-classic. I loved Sideways as well. I have to sleep on whether Sideways is Top 50 worthy though. My favorite chick flick of all-time might be Four Weddings and a Funeral though. Just some wicked diologue. I also enjoyed My Best Friend's Wedding while we're thinking chick flicks.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @El Prez  @Wanderer  @El Not that you asked me, but here goes: 1. Titanic, 2. Terms of Endearment, 3. You've Got Mail, 4. Steel Magnolias, 5. The Notebook   (kidding!)   So no Sideways and no Sling Blade on your list?

Loose Sluggage
Loose Sluggage 5pts

@El Prez 30's. So dragon tattoo must be the one w/some sort if dildo scene? Probably wouldn't take much issue w/that.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

Wanderer--how old are you? This may be a generational thing. The sh-t pies movie was The Help--it didn't make my list, but the Tatoo Girl movie does have a scene might make you wince a bit. Scent of a Woman with Pochino was a classic.

Loose Sluggage
Loose Sluggage 5pts

@El Prez @El Damn, you're definitely going old school on me here. I've only seen about half of yours. Shawshank & godfather are solid, as is inglorious bastards. Cant say either of your 10-spot ties blew me away. Haven't seen the dragon tatoo movie but if that's the one where someone eats sh*t pies, pretty sure I don't want to cause I think I would flat out vomit upon viewing this.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

 @ThunderChick2010  @Wanderer  @El That was a little different.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

 @Wanderer  @El  @El Okay. We'll have to work around the Dino Lalli admission. You're obviously a bit younger than me, but Pulp Fiction is clearly in my Top 50 Movies of All Time, as is Tarentino's Inglorious Basterds. Brad Pitt proved to me he was more than a pretty boy in this classic. A must see. I love Matt Damon--so I've enjoyed the Bourne series, but I'm not sure those films make my Top 50. Did you see The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo this past Oscar season?

 

We have a bit of a generational gap.

 

I'd go something like--

 

1   Guess Who's Coming To Dinner

2   Shawshank Redemption

3   The Godfather

4   One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest 

5   A Few Good Men

6   Animal House

7   On The Waterfront

8   Shindler's List

9   The Verdict

10 Goodwill Hunting

     Scent of a Woman  tie

 

There's nothing like talking hoops on the DT.

 

 

Loose Sluggage
Loose Sluggage 5pts

@El Prez @El I've got no idea who Dino lalli us so I can tell I'm out of my league here but my shortlist includes pulp fiction, anchorman, eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, the Bourne movies and um,,, barely legal 19?

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @El Prez  @Wanderer  @El couldn't resist:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbhrz1-4hN4

 

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

 @Wanderer  @El I loved the way he mowed his lawn. He was fastidious about his lawn and that car. I don't this movie in my Top 50 Movies of All Time, but I thought it was a very good picture in relation to how much things have changed generationally in this country since the end of WWII. I thought he was real hero in the end. He had enough and decided this was going to be his exit. Maybe we could do movie reviews on days when the team isn't playing. Give me your top five movies of all-time so I can feel where you're coming from. I'm not saying I'm Dino Lalli, but I feel pretty comfy in my cinema wheelhouse. You go Top 5 first--then I'll go.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @El Prez Perk definitely is a "Get off my lawn" kinda guy. . . .

KoolKeith3000
KoolKeith3000 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Interesting debate on Fisher's effect on the team.  They are 10-4 since acquiring him, so you really can't say he's had an adverse effect.  You can make the argument that his positive plus/minus numbers are too small of a sample size.  However, the same can be said with the low 32.4 FG Pct. he has with the Thunder, which is below what he was shooting with the Lakers this year (38.3%).

 

Fisher has never had very good personal stats with a career average of 8.6. ppg. and 3.1 Ast., while shooting 40% FG Pct. and 37.3% on 3pt.  He's alway been a guy that was more about his intangibles on the court than his personal stat.  I would compare him to Collison in that regard.  The other point I would make about Fisher is his ability to elevate his game in the playoffs.  Both his FG% and 3pt.% increase in the playoffs (I just looked it up), and he has a history of hitting clutch shots.  At 37, there's a good chance this is his last post-season run.  I think he makes the most of it and hits some big shots in the playoffs.  Maynor is going to be back as the backup PG next year, so whatever people think of Fisher, he's only here for the short-term.  

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @KoolKeith6 My biggest issue with Derek Fisher is that he plays too much.  If he was getting Reggie Jackson's 10-12 minutes a game then there might not be any harm.  But he's playing 20+ minutes a game, including 20+ in five of the last six.  He's getting minutes at the expense of other, better players, and that is what's frustrating.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @justin_mia  @KoolKeith6 Fisher runs the 2nd unit better then Jackson.  I dont see a problem playing Fisher extra minutes before the playoffs to get acclimated.  Now if he was playing big minutes and hurting us in the Playoffs is a different story.

KoolKeith3000
KoolKeith3000 5pts

 @justin_mia I hear you, but I think he's mostly taking minutes away from Cook and Ivey.  The guy that is stealing minutes from Ibaka is Perkins.  I would really like to see Brooks give Ibaka a chance playing with the small-ball lineup.  To go to Perking by default every game seems like a mistake, especially to finish out games.  Perk is too much of a liability on the offensive end and his defense hasn't warranted the default minutes.  I guess they don't feel confident with the post-defense of Ibaka playing at the 5, but I would like to see Brooks give him a chance in that lineup to finish out the season.  That gives you five or so games to get a better feel for how it will work.  

KoolKeith3000
KoolKeith3000 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups I think this problem really will be highlighted if they end up playing the Spurs.  Pop often plays Bonner at the 4, with Duncan at the 5.  At that point, they essentially have to go small.  Ibaka is flat out horrible at guarding bigs that can shoot out on the perimeter.  It almost always leads to a number of open 3pt. shots for the opposition, which you can't afford in the playoffs.  The question then becomes, can Ibaka effectively guard Duncan, or will Brooks be forced to stick with Perkins to do the job.  As good as an off the ball shot-blocker IBaka is, he really needs to keep working on his post-defense.  That will help to insure he gets the minutes he wants, because I have a feeling Durant is going to play at the 4 quite a bit as his career continues.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @KoolKeith6 

 

I agree with you and Justin_mia on this and I disagree at the same time.  If Ibaka the opponent has a low post player that neither KD or Ibaka can guard, then Brooks shouldn't be going small in clutch time. 

 

 

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @KoolKeith6 

very well said and fair post.

Loose Sluggage
Loose Sluggage 5pts

Anyone think KD should be spending less time shooting commercials, movies, rap videos, etc? Seems like something new from him comes out every day. You gotta say no sometimes, KD. Furthermore, how come Russ doesn't get anywhere close to that number of endorsement opportunities? Only thing I can remember seeing Russ in was that gawd-awful local car dealership commercial where they made him sing their ridiculous little jingle. Please tell me this no longer airs cause it made me cringe every time I saw it.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @Wanderer russ seems to get all the local commercials...midfirst bank, ozarka, the car dealership commercial

dmon21
dmon21 5pts

 @bmuelle2112  @Wanderer Durant's going rate is probably a bit high for the local guys

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @bmuelle2112  @Wanderer Hey that's Bancfirst. Looks like someone needs to fire their ad firm. 

OUThunderfan
OUThunderfan 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I don't know if you guys had seen this little ad for the playoffs with KD, but I thought it was neat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-8aScAoVh0c

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

 @OUThunderfan OMG thats really good

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts

 @ThunderWins  @OUThunderfan http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/04/video-kevin-durant-playoffs-rising-champions/

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

And the Lakers really beat +.500 teams with that lineup?

Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

How cool is it that, with <10 games remaining in the season, a scoring title for KD, an MVP for KD, and the best record in the NBA are all within reach?

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @DSYIII

 Hey, the Thunder are the #1 rated team in the league in Hollinger's (admittedly flawed) power rankings.

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'm so over Dallas. They've been on TV every day this week.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @C_Dub and still trying to talk themselves into thinking they can make a run

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

Derek Fisher has the best per minute +/- on the team.  Sefolosha is second, Collison is 3rd.  I guess there's something to be said for basketball IQ...

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@FF_pickups Reality says we still prefer maynor

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OkcBaby  @FF_pickups "Don't konw what ya got, til it's gone..." 

SB718
SB718 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Or having good teammates when you happen to be on the floor. @FF_pickups 

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups 288 minutes of individual +/- data is pretty close to worthless.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia

 Worthless??    I think that 288 minutes is equal to 288 minutes.  You can live in your confirmation biased based reality, I'll live in the factual version...

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia 

Everytime I've had a debate on here with you, you were completely close minded.  I hypothesize that the limit to your open mindedness is anything that doesn't confirm your preconceived notions.

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts

 @FF_pickups  @Lasers There's a limit to my open mindedness.  

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lasers "you should probably state why 288min works in terms of those stats intervals, right?"

 

I didn't call into question 'sample size', Justin_mia did.  Sample Size is a fair question but given the information that we have it is simply a question, not a refutation of the stat.  That's all I was pointing out.  His post tried to arrogantly dismiss the stat as being completely incorrect because the stat doesn't support his hypothesis (which is that Fisher is horrible).  Perhaps, Fisher is horrible but all I was trying to do was bring up the fact that some statistics support him as being VERY valuable.  As he points out, the conclusions of the stats are far from clear but let's at least be open minded instead of falling victim to confirmation bias. 

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts

 @Daniel Hawaii  @FF_pickups Not really since a much lower % of Jackson's minutes were played with both Durant and Harden in the game, with less than a quarter of his minutes total coming with Durant in the game.  

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

 @justin_mia @FF_pickups I think the real question should be what are Reggie Jackson's +/- numbers? Compare Jackson's +/- to Fisher's and that should provide us with a good comparison of which PG is better with the 2nd unit. 

KoolKeith3000
KoolKeith3000 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderWins  @SB718  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups Well, the perception is that Fisher has been horrible defensively, but the stats don't necessarily show that he's much worse than Ivey.  Here's a comparison with Ivey on the defensive end:

Fisher-  own production 2.7, opp. 5.2

Ivey- own 5.5, opp. 11.8

Fisher-  Defense: Pts per 100 Poss. 108.8 on court, 104 off court

Ivey- Defense: Pts per 100 Poss. 107.5 on court, 103.7 off court 

 

Comparison on the offensive end:

Fisher- Offense: Pts per 100 Poss. 133.5 on court, 110.6 off court

Ivey- Offense: Pts per 100 Poss. 111.6 on court, 111.5 off court

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

 @FF_pickups  @justin_mia Not to get in the middle of this, but FF, if you're gonna be intellectually honest, you should probably state why 288min works in terms of those stats intervals, right?

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

 @SB718  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups Fisher gets destroyed on defense if the other side goes after him hard when he's out there.

SB718
SB718 5pts

 @justin_mia  @FF_pickups Individual +/- of any sample period isn't worth much to me.  Obviously unit +/- is quite useful.

 

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts

 @FF_pickups I understand basketball statistics well enough to know not to make conclusions based on such a small sample of individual +/-, especially when it flies in the face of the traditional boxscore as well as the eye-test.  I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me on the subject could explain it those terms.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia

 You are handwaving, Justin.  If you are going to make that claim, you need to quantify the confidence interval, confidence level and standard deviation that supports that position.  You can't, because you don't understand statistics. 

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts

 @FF_pickups 288 minutes is too small of a sample to glean anything useful from individual +/- data.  i.e. not enough data to make a conclusion.  Individual raw +/- even a full season's worth is a little bit hokey.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia

 Hey, if you if that's what your confirmation bias tells you, go with it.  It's your reality, have fun...

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups The rational explanation for Derek Fisher's high individual +/- is that almost all of his high value lineups feature both James Harden and Kevin Durant - the thought that Fisher's 'BBIQ' is overcoming his horrific individual performance seems very farfetched to me.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia

 so you make an argument that it may have a sample size issue. Why don't you go ahead and quantify what you mean, can you?  I didn't think so...

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts

 @FF_pickups "Sample size"

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups But at least he has his TS% above 40% now - small victories.

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