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3-on-3: Separation anxiety

by Royce Young on May 21, 2012 at 1:22 pm 53 Comments

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For just four games, this series has had quite the wave of emotions. One game in cruise control, one frantic comeback, one tough loss and another come from behind effort. You could look at three or four plays and have a completely different result. The Thunder are on the verge and at home with the opportunity to finish. But what’s been going on with this series? And does it end now?

1. The Thunder looked so dominant in Game 1. Why have the last three been so painfully close?

Royce Young, Daily Thunder: The Lakers are actually a pretty good team. And they’re, believe it or not, also trying to win this series. Game 1 showcased that OKC can be dominant if it clicks, and the other two wins that they’re good enough if not. The Lakers have adjusted well, just not well enough to win.

Patrick James, Daily Thunder: Because the Thunder aren’t going to out-shoot the Lakers by 10 percent every game, especially on the road. The 53 and 43 percent shooting, respectively, for the Thunder and Lakers in Game 1 also wasn’t even as bad as the shooting disparity was before the fourth quarter, when the Lakers had already given up. Oklahoma City had to regress at least somewhat to the mean. Other than that, you have to give the Lakers credit for being a good team that made good adjustments. The Thunder are the better team and have proved it so far, but a team as proud and talented as the Lakers wasn’t going to lose by a couple dozen points every night for a week.

Chris Hanneke, @channeke5: Well the easiest answer here is that Joey Crawford was the lead official in Game 3. But in all seriousness, it’s just been a matter of LA sticking to their gameplan. The book coming into the series said LA needed to feed the bigs and not let OKC get out in transition, and they’ve done a good job of that. They’ve also used their two 7-footers – and Jordan Hill surprisingly – to bring some energy on the offensive glass. That along with, let’s face it, some very favorable whistles the past two games, never allowed OKC to get into a rhythm. But the fourth quarters in Games 2 and 4 demonstrated how mentally tough the Thunder is in finding ways to win even when things aren’t going their way.

2. A lot has been made about how close this series is to being completely different with maybe the Lakers up 3-1. Do you care about that, or is it just about the final scores?

Young: I want to say no, but then again, it’s hard of hard to ignore. That said, that’s kind of the way it works. The team that hits the big shots and makes the big plays wins. If it had happened once, I might just thinking it was an accident. But the Thunder have come back and closed in multiple games now. They’re good.

James: A lot was made of how close the Dallas series was to being 2-2 or 3-1 in favor of the Mavericks after four games, but the Mavs have been home for more than a week now. So, nope, don’t count me among those who care. The Thunder have been executing well, especially defensively, down the stretch against veteran teams for long enough to pass well beyond fluke status. It can’t be successfully argued that any team in the playoffs, with the exception of the Spurs, is even close to the Thunder talent-wise if you go 10 players deep. OKC’s weakness against veteran teams was experience and know-how, but a lot of that is in the rear window. The Thunder could still get a lesson in the next round against the terminators in San Antonio, but bet against OKC at your own risk.

Hanneke: I actually think it helps the Thunder that the games have been so close. All the talk all season was that when things slowed down, OKC’s reliance on jump shots would bite them. But Games 2 and 4 showed that the Thunder can actually be pretty effective in creating good shots in crunch time. Assuming they get out of this series, this experience in close games can only help the young roster in what is sure to be a dogfight with San Antonio.

3. Does it end tonight?

Young: Yes. I’m not one to go against myself, and I had this thing in five games. Part of me anticipates a cakewalk, but I think the Thunder are going to feel the pressure of finishing this and the Lakers desperately want to bring it back to LA. I don’t think the Lakers are quite ready to quit. But the Thunder are better and should close it at home. Plus, this is what I predicted and I’ll feel smart if it happens that way.

James: Yes. From the Los Angeles perspective, would you want to work hard for Kobe after his Game 4 press conference? As for the Thunder, would you be feeling pretty confident after the last seven games and playing in front of a rabid, blood-smelling home crowd? There’s only one team jet heading back to Los Angeles after Game 5.

Hanneke: Yes. We can talk all we want about the Lakers history of quitting in these situations, but I think the bigger factor here is that this Thunder team understands the importance of ending the series now. They know they’ll need fresh legs and a ton of preparation to have any shot at stopping the freight train that is the San Antonio Spurs. You take that, throw in a raucous crowd that smells blood, mix in a little mental fatigue from LA – who has basically executed their gameplan to perfection the last three games and still lost two – and all signs point to this one ending tonight.

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ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/05/practice-report-okc-ready-to-send-lakers-back-to-la-la-land/#respond

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 9 Like

So my close friend went back to Barcelona, Spain to visit her family. She said there were loads of bars that had Thunder logos, and a crap load of Thunder fans there. Ibaka was the crowds favorite payer. She said they call Westbrook "El Dinamita" which means "The Dynamite"

 

and they have a slogon they chant before every game, "Los Azules Los Azules, No Te Burles De Los Azules, Con Raza Y Ganas Somos Los Azules. "

 

It means "The Blues, The Blues, Don't Make Fun of The Blues(they really mean "don't disrespect") With our Culture, and Will, We Are The Blues"

 

Just thought it would be pretty cool to share that with you guys.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ElMexiThunder We should co-opt "El Dinamita" onto a DT shirt.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas

 

Lol that would be pretty cool, i know they call Westbrook "El Dinamita" in Mexico too. It fits his personality, he is a stick of dynamite waiting to explode.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

You guys think Mike Brown survives for long if the Lakers lose tonight? If so, LA might be a possible destination.  (I know, going from one egotistical black spot to another.)

FletchMFletcher
FletchMFletcher 5pts

 @ou_sas No. Brown was brought in to fail.  This is the main reason the Chris Paul trade never happened.  Once Brown is out, LA will be free to hire a coach, even if that coach happens to be white.  Also, LA will be free to make any trade, even if that trade involves Kobe. Personally, I see Bynum, Ibaka, and Deron as the next big three. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @FletchMFletcher The problem with trading Kobe is obviously that no-trade clause. Got to get his approval of a trade before that happens.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Keith00  @FletchMFletcher That's what I was thinking. Except my above post is clearly lacking in putting this point forward. *fail*

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas  @FletchMFletcher SVG to LA anyone?

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

Otis Smith leaves Orlando. Stan Van Gundy relieved of duties.

 

What y'all think?

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ILikePancakes just heard this on the radio, what a JOKE. Howard is bringing the Orlando organization to its knees.

Thunderbuzzy
Thunderbuzzy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @C_Dub  @ILikePancakes I think I am glad we have Durant and not Howard. Durant would never do this to an organization.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @Thunderbuzzy  @Keith00  @C_Dub  @ILikePancakes

 

Who knows, Maybe he'll actually get a good cast around him. Perhaps the new G.M. actually knows what he's doing? I would love to pick up SVG, though. He would transform this defense into something out of this world. Not like our offensive system is good anyways.  

Thunderbuzzy
Thunderbuzzy 5pts

 @Keith00  @C_Dub  @ILikePancakes You might be right but all Dwight had to say was I want out. He had the chance and he didn't do it. After all the talk he decided to stay. That was his problem. He had a chance to get out and instead he has cratered that entire organization.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Thunderbuzzy  @C_Dub  @ILikePancakes I think it is a little unfair of a comparison. Howard seemed very happy in Orlando for longer than KD has been here. We've also build a tremendous team around him. Dwight has been forced to carry a bunch of mediocre non-defenders his entire career.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @C_Dub  @ILikePancakes Hilarity will ensue when he jumps ship next year too. I want to blame Howard alone for this, but it is Otis Smith more than anyone who has torpedoed that team. He had the second best foundation piece in the league (behind Lebron) and he consistently brought in the wrong teammates and salaries. Ryan Anderson seems more like luck at this point.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @C_Dub  @ILikePancakes If the FO is letting Howard run the team, they are even more at fault than he is. They are paid to build and run a team, and they just hand over duties to a guy who jumped right from high school? Howard had no leverage until this last year, and even then the FO was able to force him to stay another year. He doesn't have the spine to be running the team.

 

As for saying he wanted out, he has a nice life there already. There are good reasons to stay. But again, the FO is paid to make the best choices for the team. If the best choice is to trade Dwight, they shouldn't have been forcing him to stay in the first place.

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

 @Keith00  @ILikePancakes He was probably being told by Howard who to target in trades and free agency. Howard is the one running the team now, everyone else is a spineless puppet at this point. Then he's going to leave them when his deal is up, so Orlando gets nothing in return but years of futility. 

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

Should we get SVG?

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ILikePancakes i doubt brooks gets fired if we make conf finals.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @Keith00  @f5alcon  @ILikePancakes

 

I think we would be way to spoiled to have SVG as a assistant, but god i would love it.  

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @f5alcon  @ILikePancakes If he feels like taking time off from being a head coach (was he still technically under contract and therefore cannot be a head coach if he want to collect his money?), I'd love for him to run our defense.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

When Kobe, Nash and KG will retire, a little bit of me will die... i watched these guys since 2001 and truly loved... well, not all of them (f you Kobe), but Nash and KG... man, they are just too awesome to retire.

 

Please don't retire, ever.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @ILikePancakes KG and nash should just replace fisher and nazr next year

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

It's too bad Houston didn't make it in to the playoffs. If we ever get Dallas-Houston-Spurs in one playoff year, I've got our slogan: "Let's Mess with Texas."

 

Pssh, let's mess with Texas now. Thunder Up!

Patrick OKC
Patrick OKC 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas Isn't that kind of mean since we already own Texas in football?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Patrick OKC Why break the trend?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Patrick OKC Ah, gotcha.

Patrick OKC
Patrick OKC 5pts

 @ou_sas I just meant hoping for the Rockets just to dog on Texas extra.  The trend I love.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @ou_sas First, let's capture California.

ou_sas
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 @ILikePancakes Good point, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

If you would have told me in the start of the season that out of the Mavs, Heat, and Lakers trolls that the most annoying one would be the one that actually comes from a group of fans that are smarter then the casual basketball fan(Yes, i'm talking about you "WhoSpurinyourcherrios")

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder hahahaha so true

WhoSpurinyourcherrios
WhoSpurinyourcherrios 5pts

You guys want to talk basketball, alrigh ill talk basketball.

 

You guys dont have a soul with the length or strength to guard Duncan.

 

You have been poor at defending the Pick and Roll all season long and thats Tonys specialty

 

Your coach is a rookie

 

Your perimeter players gamble too much defending, and my Spurs will make you pay for that

 

your a jumpshooting team, we are great at limiting shots 16 feet and under, you guys have no low post presence.

 

So tell me how will you guys fix all of that?

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @WhoSpurinyourcherrios Your grammar is horrible.

 

Your punctuation could use a lot of help.

 

Your screen name makes no sense at all.

 

You're still welcome to hang around and troll, as we welcome it. Makes it all the better when we beat you. (Just ask the Lakers and Mavs fans... oh, and a few too-excited Grizz fans as well.)

 

Your team is much more classy and, unfortunately, better prepared to take on our Thunder than you are to take on Thunder fans.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @TempBoy Brandon  @WhoSpurinyourcherrios Well said . . .

You're bad, you're bad, you're really really bad!  :)

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @TempBoy Brandon  @WhoSpurinyourcherrios

 

Lol he's a bad bad man!! 

Thunderbuzzy
Thunderbuzzy 5pts

 @WhoSpurinyourcherrios Tell you what their little fella. Why don't you come on here after game 3 and we will rehash these points. Thunder continue to step up and do things people don't think they can. I am not going to sit here and say they are going to beat the Spurs. But I can guarantee you the Spurs will have to earn that series.

 

You don't have the luxury of playing a team with minimal playoff experience like Utah and LAC. You got a team that has been in the playoffs a couple of times now and knows what they need to do to win.

GetOffTheTip
GetOffTheTip 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@WhoSpurinyourcherrios We'll tell you as soon as you fix your poor grammar.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @GetOffTheTip  @WhoSpurinyourcherrios Today's lesson:

 

It's "you're a jumpshooting team" not "your a jumpshooting team".

Also, it's "you're still a redneck" not "your still a redneck".

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ou_sas  @GetOffTheTip  @WhoSpurinyourcherrios I think his keyboard is missing that key to the right of the semicolon as well as the one below the L with that little dot-thingy on it.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @GetOffTheTip  @WhoSpurinyourcherrios Also, a reminder that capitals exist, and to please use them.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @WhoSpurinyourcherrios By not giving up until the game is over. I think we have proved that

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @WhoSpurinyourcherrios

 

Westbrook has no reason not to play defense, and i'll be danm if he lets the french guy out play him.

 

We might not have someone with the length but i'm confident Ibaka will contest every shot and challenge him, so will Perk. We have the benifet of having guys who can be a challenge 1 on 1 so we don't need to double team.

 

We overplay on defense at times, but more times then not it pays off.

 

You guys are old and will have to grind out every minute with us, that'll get you tired and let our young legs go to work in the 4th just like last game.

 

I have no answer about Brooks..

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder  @WhoSpurinyourcherrios Actually, I think we'll play a lot more small ball against the Spurs. That'll probably end up matching up better than our regular lineup.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @WhoSpurinyourcherrios By playing Basketball with our hearts. :P

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

Not another down to earth Laker fan. Where are you finding these guys?

mattmematt
mattmematt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I wish we would have kept that #1 seed

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @mattmematt Water under the Bricktown Bridge . . . gotta move forward from where we are.

txTDM
txTDM 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I agree that these close games are actually helping the Thunder. The guys play better when it doesn't seem given.  And we have a history of playing to our competition's level.  I think after sweeping the Mavs, having these hard-fought wins is what we needed, mentally, to prepare for the brawl we're going to have against the Spurs. 

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @txTDM

yeah welcome to DT 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @txTDM Welcome to DT, txDTM.

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