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3-on-3: What did Game 1 really say?

by Royce Young on May 16, 2012 at 12:27 pm 64 Comments

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Game 1 went pretty much perfectly. But that’s over with and done. On to the next one, which unfortunately doesn’t start with the Thunder ahead 29-0. Still, did Game 1 show something? Did it reveal there’s a substantial gap between the Thunder and Lakers? Things can change, teams can adjust, but it’s still going to be the same two teams on the floor that met in Game 1. Should Thunder fans allow themselves to start thinking ahead already?

1. True or False: The Thunder are double-digits better than the Lakers.

Royce Young, Daily Thunder: True. That obviously doesn’t mean the Thunder are going to win every game by double-digits, but in terms of the separation between the two teams, Oklahoma City has a pretty clear advantage. The two regular season wins were fairly convincing, and the loss came without James Harden. Clearly, the Thunder aren’t 29 points better, but they are 8-10 points better.

Patrick James, Daily Thunder: True. Just look at every game the Thunder and Lakers have played since OKC got Kendrick Perkins in the lineup: Thunder wins by 29, nine, 15 and 14, and then an eight-point Lakers win in overtime during a game that featured a massive L.A. comeback with James Harden out with a concussion you may have heard about. Three of those five wins were in Los Angeles. The average result OKC those five games is a 12-point Thunder win. This is something that both stat heads and gut feelers can agree on.

Kyle Porter, Pistols Firing: They’ve won four of the last five against L.A. dating back to last year by nine or more points. The only one they didn’t was the 2OT beard-gate loss in LA a month ago. They aren’t 30 points better, or 20 for that matter, but they are double-digits better.

2. True or False: The Thunder can handle the Lakers without a healthy Perk.

Royce Young: True. Only because Andrew Bynum is prone to fading away from games. If Bynum is engaged, the Thunder need Perk because so much of their defensive approach is single coverage on the Laker big man. But Nazr Mohammed is a big body with six fouls, as is Cole Aldrich. Bynum could be more of an asset to the Laker halfcourt offense sans Perk, but the Lakers have also never shown to be that dedicated to going inside to their big man. After Perk’s injury, Bynum only got one post touch in the first five minutes, and he kicked out.

Patrick James: True. Handle? Yes. Dominate? No. That said, OKC already dominated the Lakers on Monday with Perk basically playing only half a game, and the half he played was well below his standards defensively with Andrew Bynum absolutely shedding th Thunder early. So play a little more small ball, which is a dependable move for the Thunder anyway, and spread Perk’s minutes among Nazr Mohammed, Nico Collison and Cole Aldrich, and OKC should be fine. Maybe not fine as in another sweep, but does anyone really think the Lakers can push this beyond six games?

Kyle Porter: True. But it’ll be a much longer series without him. On the BS Report the other day Steve Kerr said Perk might be the best low-post defender in the NBA, to lose him when you’re facing the best (albeit flightiest) low post combo in the league wouldn’t be crippling but it would definitely stretch the series out to six or seven.

3. True or False: Overconfidence is a the biggest issue for the Thunder right now.

Royce Young: False. I added this question because it’s worrying me. You smash a team, swagger around and feel like you’re 8-10 points better, and it makes you anxious if you’re getting ahead of yourself. But the team knows the task at hand, and certainly respects the Lakers and their ability. I think Game 1 was absolutely satisfying, but that one is over and it doesn’t matter if you drop Game 2.

Patrick James: False. The biggest issues for the Thunder from here on out are all external: Every team left in the playoffs is good. We’ve already covered how I think the Lakers can realistically go in this series, but they can still win games. And the Spurs are a bunch of terminators. The Thunder is confident, not cocky and not overconfident. They know they’re good, but they stil work hard.

Kyle Porter: False. Figuring out a way to win games when your starters don’t shoot 63% (!) from the field like they did in Game 1 is. They were able to do it in Game 3 against Dallas when they only shot 42% as a team but forced 16 turnovers and harassed Dirk/Kidd/Marion/Jet into a 14-45 shooting night. Can they do the same against L.A.? We’ll see.

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ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/05/devin-ebanks-andrew-bynum-fined-by-the-league/

Durienne
Durienne 5pts

So White Out tonight?

GrantHill
GrantHill 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Durienne That's racist. 

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @GrantHill  

Or is it Gay?

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

Haaaaayyyyyyy *snap*

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

or a Flame Out...

atxhorn
atxhorn 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @FF_pickups  @GrantHill that would be a rainbow out

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

I heard an interesting Lebron-James-is-a-choker stat on the ESPN podcast.  In the last minute of one possession playoff games, Lebron is shooting 58% from the free throw line compared to 75% the rest of the time.  Ladies and Gentleman, the 'best player in the game'.

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @FF_pickups 

It's crazy. The narrative has been pounded so much it's like he has started to believe himself. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

Figured I would ruin everyone's day with a Skip Bayless video.....

 

Even though I kinda agree with his take on Lebron's game last night, I STILL can't stand listening to him.

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7936906/2012-nba-playoffs-miami-heat-lebron-james-says-playing-pf-injured-chris-bosh-taxing

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

God... Skip makes me want to root for Lebron. He has also made me hate the Spurs, my second favorite team (favorite prior to the Thunder).

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Just curious.... was the absolutely ridiculous tech Ibaka got in game 1 rescinded?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Fuzzy Logic i asked the same about the Westbrook tech on dirk and got no answer

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

@OBoymuzik Generally you don't hear about them being rescinded unless a player is approaching the limit for suspension and I don't think they'll collect enough Tech's for it to matter I just remember seeing that and thinking there was no possible way that held up under any kind of review.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

You guys should listen to Tim Legler talk about Russ Westbrook on inside the NBA espn podcast.  It's pretty interesting.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @FF_pickups got a link? not finding it in itunes

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OBoymuzik 

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7937624

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups thanks

diddoff
diddoff 5pts

Lakers center Andrew Bynum has been fined $15,000 for skipping an interview session with reporters Tuesday

KellOne
KellOne 5pts

 @diddoff Lakers should fine him for talking

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @diddoff "young fella gonna pay for it in his pocket" -Mike brown on Ebanks...and now bynum

diddoff
diddoff 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Ebanks fined $25,000 by NBA for actions after getting ejected in Game 1

DTOK
DTOK 5pts

 @FF_pickups On the replays, it looked like after he got his T, he popped off again to the ref.  Quite quickly after the ref made the T sign, he directed him off the court so he must have said something additional.  That's at least what it looked like to me.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @FF_pickups  I just want to point out that the extra free throw would have made it an even "30 point" azz-whippin'.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @FF_pickups   That's a very good point.  Ebanks did get two technicals, didn't he?  So how come we didn't get a free throw?

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @Percolate  @diddoff 

I saw that in the box score but how is one tech an ejection and the other not?  Isn't it two techs to get ejected? 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @FF_pickups  @Percolate  @diddoff double tech

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @Percolate  @diddoff  @OBoymuzik 

How did we not shoot free throws when Ebanks got ejected? 

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@diddoff @OBoymuzik plus $16.95, the cost to replace the courtside chair that apparently got in his way.

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

The biggest issue for the Thunder right now is the San Antonio Spurs.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 8 Like

 @SammyThunderer HOLY CRAP A SAMMY SIGHTING!

 

Dude, we all were worried that you were dead.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

*untying the yellow ribbon*  Good to hear from you!

SammyThunderer
SammyThunderer 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct Yeah, real life got in the way, but I've been keeping up, watching games, etc, just haven't had time to be a blog commenter.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Sammy as a prodigal son huh? That can only mean he's been slumming it with the Miami Heat, playing ignorant to any metrics and only indulging hyperbole and blatant, emotional bandwagonism.

 

But what the heck, welcome back dude. Enjoy your steak.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @ThunderChick2010  @SammyThunderer  @Jax Raging Bile Duct Unfortunately no, I have an unplanned trip to make tonight.

KellOne
KellOne 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @SammyThunderer  @Jax Raging Bile Duct I want steak all of the sudden

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @ou_sas  @SammyThunderer  @Jax Raging Bile Duct You going?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @SammyThunderer  @Jax Raging Bile Duct Let's Celebrate by beating the Lakers again tonight!

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @SammyThunderer  @Jax Raging Bile Duct I haven't posted a Bible verse in a while, but this seems like an opportune time:

 

"But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found."  (Luke 15:32)

 

Let's kill the fattened calf . . . someone grab a robe and a ring . . . we're throwing a PARTY! 

nomad
nomad 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SammyThunderer So good to see you!!!

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SammyThunderer

 

Dude where have been!! Good to have you back in time for the second round.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @SammyThunderer Welcome back!

 

DT's been missing you, man.

KD's Pocket Guide To Defying Physics
KD's Pocket Guide To Defying Physics 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @SammyThunderer Since we are not playing the Spurs currently, they are not the biggest issue. Got to focus on the current series. I understand what you're saying though, the Spurs look awfully scary right now.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story?id=7937043&_slug_=2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-championship-earn-kevin-durant-title-nba-best-playerlogin&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fstory%3fid%3d7937043%26_slug_%3d2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-championship-earn-kevin-durant-title-nba-best-playerlogin&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fstory%3fid%3d7937043%26_slug_%3d2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-championship-earn-kevin-durant-title-nba-best-playerlogin%26appRedirect%3dhttp%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fstory%3fid%3d7937043%26_slug_%3d2012-nba-playoffs-thunder-championship-earn-kevin-durant-title-nba-best-player

 

Insider article about KD overtaking Baldy as the best player in the NBA

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

@ILikePancakes Completely thought you were talking about the far more legendary and deserving "Baldy". The one with the shoes and the baseball career. James isn't quite bald yet either.... I think he's prone to having a sweatband permanently grafted to his head at any minute as well.

DavyTheWise
DavyTheWise 5pts

 @Fuzzy Logic  @ILikePancakes I think he wears it to hide the frown lines on hes forehead

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ILikePancakes "Shaquille O'Neal didn't have as many skills as David Robinson, but he was a better player because he had more of an impact. Charles Barkley's numbers during his prime are better than Tim Duncan's, but Duncan ranks higher because of his impact."

 

Chris Broussard is a moron.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ILikePancakes Tim Duncan ranks higher because he's one of the best defensive players in NBA history who anchored some of the best defensive teams in NBA history.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ILikePancakes i stopped after insider

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Why? I know they steal alot of these articles but this one is pretty legitimate

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @ILikePancakes Because Broussard is a blowhard idiot, just like Simmons and Palmer

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @ILikePancakes lol i thought i couldn't read it, nevermind

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