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Thursday Bolts – 5.10.12

by Royce Young on May 10, 2012 at 11:07 am 264 Comments

Sekou Smith of NBA.com: “The Thunder’s rise during that same five-year span, however, has been nothing short of remarkable. Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka were added to a mix that already included Durant and Jeff Green, who was traded last year to Boston so the Thunder could add a much-needed rugged, veteran big man in Kendrick Perkins. For all of them to come into their own simultaneously, though, isn’t so much a coincidence as it is a product of a group work ethic that makes first-time observers shake their heads in disbelief.”

Matt Tolnick of HoopsHype on James Harden: “While the PPS stat isn’t available in your everyday box score, you can find it on ESPN.com. Of course, big men who play in the paint are likely to average higher PPS than guards who play away from the basket (just as their field goal percentages are typically higher). In the case of the 2011-12 regular season, six of the top seven PPS players were forwards and centers, each of whom is listed at 6’8” or taller. James Harden, who has been recognized as the league’s best 6th man, is the lone guard in the top-7, and at 6’5”, he ranks #2 in PPS, trailing only Tyson Chandler.”

David Berri of Freakonomics: “Now who would make such a decision? Who would think it is a good idea to have Westbrook — with an effective field goal percentage of 48. percent% — take nine more shots per game than Harden? Well, Westbrook is the Thunder’s point guard. So many possessions begin with Westbrook having the ball. And just like the Sprint commercial, often Westbrook — given the incentives he faces — probably can’t see anyone who is open. So therefore, he simply has to take the shot. The means that Westbrook scores more points than Harden. And it also means that Westbrook makes more money than Harden.”

Tim Legler ranks his top five closers. Missing from the list? Trevor Hoffman. Wait, what?

In a revealing interview with Mark Titus of Grantland, Greg Oden said this: “I’d be lying if I said that it didn’t suck to see Durant doing so well,” he said. “Only because every time he had a good game in those first few years, I knew I was going to get a bunch of crap from all of my haters. But that doesn’t mean I dislike him as a person or anything like that. He’s a good guy and one of the three best players in the league right now. The only reason it hurts to watch him play is because I know that if I got the chance to show what I’ve got, I could be making All-Star teams like he and Horford are, too.”

Berry Tramel asked, what if it’s Denver: “The Lakers are a good matchup for the Thunder, even though Kendrick Perkins’ hip injury would make things a little hairy for OKC. But the Nuggets are an even better matchup for the Thunder. Denver can run, but the Thunder handles transition well when it’s focused, which the Thunder almost always is in the post-season. Denver has no clear answer for Durant or Westbrook, while the Thunder has some defensive answers for the Nuggets’ best weapons — Thabo or Westbrook on Lawson, Durant on Gallinari. The Thunder should do well if it happens to play Denver. Just don’t expect the same Denver team you saw last spring.”

KD on Mike and Mike.

Jenni Carlson on Russell Westbrook’s defense: “But in the fourth quarter, when Terry has a tendency to do some serious damage, the Thunder stuck Westbrook on him. The result? Terry touched the ball once on the offensive end in the last six minutes of the game. Once. And his one touch didn’t even pose a threat to the Thunder. Terry used a screen to shake Westbrook for an instance, but Westbrook recovered, keeping his balance despite getting held a bit by the screener, and forced Terry to catch the ball on the midcourt logo. Terry took a couple dribbles, then passed to Dirk and never touched the ball again in the game. Never recovered his hot shooting touch either.”

Scott Brooks in a radio interview asked about Westbrook: “He plays hard on both ends and he leaves everything out. He gets a lot of criticism, but I love what he has done. He’s taken us to the playoff three years in a row as the point guard of our team. Kevin [Durant] has lead the league in scoring three times and he gets criticized about this a lot that he doesn’t pass the ball. Can he become a better passer? Absolutely. Our whole team can be a better passing team. That’s on me as I try to get this team to be a better passing team cause I know passing wins championships as much as defense does, but Kevin has lead the league in scoring three times. What do people want? Do they want him to lead it by scoring 10 more points a game? It doesn’t happen and he’s a great point guard and he’s only going to get better. He has another level or two of improvement.”

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FF_pickups 5pts

This David Berri guy is a complete moron.  He claims that since Harden has a better shooting percentage, he should shoot more than Westbrook.  By the same logic, the Knicks should run their offense through Tyson Chandler.  Here is a quick mathematical experiment, for Westbrook and Harden.  To make the numbers easier, I'll just round, the point is the same.  Westbrook shot ~10 more shots/game at 45% compared to ~55% for Harden.  If we consider taking away 10 shots/game from Westbrook, it certainly wouldn't be a random 10 shots, it would be his 10 lowest percentage shots.  No one is arguing to take away his fast break or  layups, they are saying the bad shots.  What does he shoot on the bad shots?   Let's estimate he shoots 25% on his 10 worst shots per game.  So then we can easily solve for what he shoots on his 15 other shots per game.  It's an easy math problem

 

(10 s/g * 0.25 + 15 s/g * X)/25 = 0.45

(2.5+15X) = 11.25

15X = 8.75

X = 58.3%

 

So we can see that on Westbrooks best 15 shots/game he shoots 58% or about the same as Harden.  So let me try to reiterate that one more time very simply... If Westbrook reduced his number of shots to the same as Harden, you would see VERY similar production efficiency by both players. 

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts

Wonder what Plan B for PA is- DJ Boom or BD?

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

this is from Fox 25 Facebook page FOX 25 has learned an arrest warrant has been issued for the voice of the Thunder, Jim Miller. Miller is wanted on three-counts of lewd/indecent acts with a child under 16. More details tonight on the Primetime News at Nine.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @tydude I can only presume they are referring to the PA guy. Because we all know the GL/BD combo handles the tv and Matt Pinto is the Radio play-by-play guy... which is what I thought you meant when you said "Voice of the Thunder.

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

 @ou_sas its Jim Miller not BD grant or Matt 

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

 @ou_sas  @tydude Now is NOT the time for a new PA guy. I liked ours as was but if he was a pervert there's nothing else that could be done. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @tydude Yeah, I figured it out when I saw your post in the 6th man thread.

Thunder S
Thunder S 5pts

Gottlieb asked brooks if karls assessment that okc was the most talented and SA was the best team was accurate. I was surprised brooks said yes. he should have said i think okc is the best team. 

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

Scott Brooks is on Doug Gottileb show on 640 ESPN radio AM 

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7915965/2012-nba-playoffs-kobe-bryant-misses-los-angeles-lakers-shootaround

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderWins yeah i hope he tries to play, and vomits all over world peace.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @f5alcon  @ThunderWins Man, that statement is hilarious taken out of context. :D

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KellOne
KellOne 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC Well they did win their series against a team that lost their coach and was decimated by several injuries over the year.  Good job beating the best of the MSG beer and popcorn vendors who were still able to play.  4 out of 5 is quite respectable.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC I don't know why but made me laugh

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Colin Coherd is a retard. Not only did he say the "west has watered down this year" but dude just said Spoelstra is better the Pop....

IdiotBayless
IdiotBayless 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder Yeah, but in his defense he just isn't a basketball analyst. He doesn't really follow the sport. He is a one trick pony (NFL/NCAA), which is why I don't really listen/watch his show.  But yeah, those comments are absolutely idiotic.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder lol,  the top 10 western conference teams are better than all but the top 2 eastern conference ones

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

the guys from the basketball Jones says Denver lakers series will go to 7 everyone else will end tonight 

IdiotBayless
IdiotBayless 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @tydude I think they might be right. Except, of course, for the Flopcity v. Memphis series. I think Memphis can win the series if they stick to the inside out game.

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

RT @ThunderStats: Four previous NBA 6th Man winners have been a part of championship teams. Most recently, Toni Kukoc with the Chicago Bulls in 1996. 

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

 @Unstoppable35  Wow the 96 Bulls.... They were big time.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

http://www.kirkgoldsberry.com/courtvision.htm

 

Note Russ

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

This is why Justin gets on him about shooting 3s.  It might seem like he's good at it, and he has hit some truly huge shots..but the numbers aren't there

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @FREE_COLE yeah, though he isnt worse than rose, and durant shoots way more 3s than he should as well, russ is better from other spots along the 3 point line

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @FREE_COLE yeah though they might just be bad at it, like jeff green, i could tell from loud city what was a pump fake and what was a real shot.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @f5alcon I just wish he and durant would utilize pump fakes more.  It'd be awesome if they got good at it

Thunderbuzzy
Thunderbuzzy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

So happy for Jimmy. He earned it! Such a great player and so fun to watch!

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Thunderbuzzy Your avatar confuses me.  It makes me think I commented on something I didn't!

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

i laughed really hard when harden said he likes cookies and ice cream and it panned to russ and kd in the back, and russ was just shaking his head like   ~.~  lol 

alvarex
alvarex 5pts

 @Legendary_dork Dangit, I'm at work and missed it.  Hopefully the highlights will be youtubed!

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

AWH I WANNA SEE MORE INTERVIEWS!! How could no one really not having any questions?

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder he will be on Sports Center 

loplopol
loplopol 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder i think they called time

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder Sports Animal trying to get him on.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Amazing to think how far he's come... remember how uncomfortable he was when they put him in games?  Man, congrats, Obearded One.. I'm glad you found your groove!

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Just waiting for Russ to fire a question - "So, James, do you think you're a max player?"

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

James Harden will be on Sports Center the 5:00 CT hour 

loplopol
loplopol 5pts

The Beard likes his ice cream an cookies

DavyTheWise
DavyTheWise 5pts

Hey, quick question.  Everyone has to wait for ALL the first round series to end correct?  I am not clear on if its that way, or if we could potentially start playing even if, say, the clippers and grizz are still playing.  Thanks

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

 @DavyTheWise 2nd round begins saturday for everyone even first round still continues 

DavyTheWise
DavyTheWise 5pts

 @tydude Thanks guys.  so basically if the lakers win we play game one saturday? if not then the series starts later?

DavyTheWise
DavyTheWise 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @tydude Great! Thanks for clearing that up.

 

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @tydude  @DavyTheWise i stand corrected, today really isnt my day on the internet, been eating crow(not the poster) all day

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

 @DavyTheWise if they win Saturday Game 1 will be for Monday for us and if Lakers win tonight game 1 will be saturday night 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @DavyTheWise  @tydude Yup. Darnell tweeted yesterday we play saturday if the lakers win tonight, or Monday if not.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @DavyTheWise  doubtful, even if they win sunday is probably the earliest, most likely monday

areayewhy
areayewhy 5pts

 @DavyTheWise you don't have to wait. as soon as you get an opponent the next series can start.

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

 @DavyTheWise Nope. As long as a second round match is set, they play even if there's still first round series still going.

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

So this press conference is NOT for announcing Perk's condition?

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

 @diddoff its for James Harden we will know more tomorrow after thunder practice 

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