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Five early thoughts on Thunder-Heat

by Royce Young on June 9, 2012 at 11:23 pm 311 Comments

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Obviously full preview and other stuff to come, but five quick thoughts on the Thunder’s matchup with the Heat in the NBA Finals.

1. I’ll be honest: I wanted it to be Boston. Really bad. I was pretty sure that if the Thunder drew the Celtics for in The Finals, Oklahoma City was going to sweep. I think my official prediction would’ve been OKC in five, but that’s just because I was going to try and remain reasonable. The Thunder’s youth, athleticism, speed and ability to turn defense into offense was just going to overwhelm the Celtics. Boston could’ve taken a game or two just by pure heart and determination, but I couldn’t see any way the Celtics were going to win four against OKC.

The Heat? They come with a bit more fear. LeBron is stunning, Dwyane Wade can go off, Chris Bosh is really good and they’ve had the taste of a Finals defeat on their lips the last year. That kind of motivation can be a powerful thing sometimes. In terms of talent, the Heat are top heavy, but very top heavy. Which makes them dangerous. Game to game, the Heat could get a monster performance from one of three guys, making them a bit worrisome.

(Although, this is the part where I note that this was my preseason Finals matchup. EXPERT.)

2. The LeBron versus KD matchup is the biggest superstar head-to-head in The Finals since…? Since when? Can you think of a bigger one? I went all the way back to Clyde Drexler versus Michael Jordan in 1992. Am I missing one in there? Some mentioned on Twitter to me Patrick Ewing against Hakeem Olajuwon and Shaq against Olajuwon. Definitely good calls, but I can’t remember. Hard to quantify the size of LeBron vs. KD against those. Maybe it’s as big as MJ vs. Magic in 1991?

We’re talking probably the top player in the league against the second best player in the league. MVP vs. runner-up MVP. (Via @ThunderStats, Drexler-MJ was the last time an MVP faced off with an MVP runner-up.) LeBron and the anti-LeBron. In terms of an individual head-to-head, I’m not sure I can think of a bigger one. Durant against LeBron is going to be a massively massive matchup to watch.

One becomes an NBA champion. One is left searching. Wow.

3. The regular season matchups don’t feel like they tell us much. The Thunder whipped the Heat in Oklahoma City, playing harder, faster and stronger than Miami. Durant smoked LeBron, OKC’s defense caused the Heat major problems and the game was over early in the third quarter. The matchup in Miami seems to me to be more like we’ll see in The Finals. Hard, tough, physical and possession by possession late.

Obviously past history means something because the two teams were playing and there was a winner, but at the same time, this is the NBA Finals. The first trip for the Thunder, a return for the Heat. Things change when the pressure and intensity ramps up.

4. Chris Bosh’s health is the early X-factor. Throughout the Celtics series, it seemed like people forgot rather quickly that the Heat are a really, really good team. With a healthy Bosh, that is. He proved it in Game 7 knocking down some big time shots and with a few more days to rest, Bosh likely will be back in his starting spot and playing closer to 30 minutes.

Bosh spaces the floor, adds a much-needed weapon to Miami’s offensive attack and provides them length and versatility. He makes Miami better. Much better.

5. When this ends, it will either be the sweetest result possible, or the most bitter taste ever. There’s no in between. If the Thunder win the NBA title, not only will THE THUNDER HAVE WON AN NBA TITLE, but they will have also denied LeBron again while KD takes the crown as the league’s best player. Durant will have the trump card on LeBron, able to flash a ring around while LeBron carries his MVP trophies around his ankles like a ball and chain of shame.

If the Thunder lose… well, you can figure that one out. LeBron wins, KD loses and the Heat’s dynasty starter kit tops the meticulously constructed Thunder process.

In short: This is going to be one hell of an NBA Finals.

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Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

Did I mention I can't wait for Tuesday?

 

This will be the first time in the playoffs that the Thunder have not had the best player on the court (although it's becoming increasingly debatable). It will also be the first time Russ was not one of the best three players on the court.

 

I'd say it looks something like this in terms of talent ranking for the best 10 players in the series:

 

Lebron

Durant

Wade

Russ

Harden

Bosh

Ibaka

Battier

Chalmers

Perk

 

It's new territory. But I think the boys are ready.

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Russ is the key to this series. Honestly, if we try to play 1-on-1 basketball and not move the ball, we decrease are chances of winning against the Heat...if Russ will use his elite athleticism against Chalmers and penetrate and look for the open man as well as stay aggressive and attack the rim, we got this! Also, we faced an elite point guard last round in Tony Parker and this series is a serious downgrade to Chalmers. On defense, all we have to do really is prevent Battier and Chalmers from getting wide open 3's and we got this, I promise. Battier was huge against Boston yesterday. We can't let him hit daggers!

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

Pretty much agree. LeBron is going to get his points. But we can't allow Chalmers and Battier to score meaningful points. You and I pretty much see this seeries from the same lense. Who is going to defend Russell? Who is going to defend James Harden?

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @kdub Agreed on all counts!

 

This will be another chance for Russ to show why he helps makes this team so hard to beat.

 

Only one caveat: When the Heat are on defensively, they are by far the best defense we have faced so far. We need to throw a lot of different looks at them offensively. We need to open up the offense by getting the bigs involved early. We need great shooting from the perimeter.

 

I also want to see more variations of the set where Harden handles while Russ sets screens to free up KD. What a lethal trio. What a lethal set if you can throw in a few more wrinkles and weak side action.

Bostonfan
Bostonfan 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

Greetings from Boston........PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE beat the Heat..... Boston  is rooting for you guys.

 

The best of luck!

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @Bostonfan

 Thanks, Bostonfan.  For what it's worth, many of us were pulling for you too.  :)

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Bostonfan We will...Our team is ready for the next step!

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

Man. Is it Tuesday yet? Let's get this!!!

 

I can't freakin wait!!

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

 @BRY BRY I feel u...anxiety levels are crazy especially since all the Heat fans are talking so much trash!

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @kdub Trolls come and trolls go. But the Thunder always remain.

Lasers
Lasers 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I live in FL. It's hilarious how much credit people give the Heat here. These were Magic fans 3 years ago..

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 13 Like

Here Ya Go! It's my first try so give me a break if it sucks. Also turn up your volume because the sound is low. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUa9ENEMB98&feature=youtu.be

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder

 

Not bad at all for your rookie try, El Mexi!  With the right stuff to work with, you could be dangerous.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

Eli--thought it was excellent. Had me  very much stirred up in regards to the Finals. You got both the Perk headkick of Wade and Russell tacklingof Lebron in the footage. Plus--several others pearls of physicality I loved. And--I always enjoy the KD quote of work ethic and becoming a great player. Maybe a cameo in there from Al Pochino wouldn't suck. But definitely something I enjoyed watching. Put it on the pregame thread on gameday fvor sure.

blueRAP
blueRAP 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder Great effort bro. I am aware the sometimes when a video is first uploaded on youtube that the HD quality isn't available immediately. Is that the results here? That's the only thing missing from this video.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

@blueRAP nah i think its just windows movie maker. The cheapest video editing kit thats actually good is 80 bucks. Anything cheaper then that pretty much is WMM with a pricd

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Anyone watching the Euros? Unlucky, very unlucky

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @cleandoe  I don't even care bout my home team

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @ILikePancakes I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE FROM CROATIA

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @ILikePancakes not very good, I know but what can you do

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @cleandoe Oh

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @ILikePancakes (s)

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @cleandoe I'm not

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @cleandoe Sad.  I thought Ireland could tie it up and now they're just getting killed

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

http://twitpic.com/50utr1

 

In this series, Wade will be playing the role of Dirk

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FREE_COLE He looks like a little kid tattling to the teacher

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @FREE_COLE Sigh, more whiny bastards, that's why i wanted to play the Celtics, the refs are unpredictable when anyone plays the heat

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @ILikePancakes The only one who whines is Wade imo.  

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @FREE_COLE  @Jooseppi They do

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Jooseppi  @ILikePancakes Also the leader in throwing his body in to defender to get contact.  Really glad refs aren't giving him that anymore

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @FREE_COLE  @ILikePancakes Wade's the only one that's in the over-the-top territory. He gives a death stare every time as he walks back to defend.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @FREE_COLE Heat

Florida

Nuff said, you can't battle my arguments, give up now

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @ILikePancakes LOL come on.  You prove ref bias and we can talk.  Especially considering we average more FTs than any team.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @FREE_COLE Refs will still do anything to bail them out

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @ILikePancakes Like I said, I disagree.  We have Russ and James who both do their fair share of complaining.  I just think Wade does it excessively and without reason

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FREE_COLE Battier

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

 @FREE_COLE Chalmers

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

Also video is being uploaded to youtube as we speak. Only problem with the video is the volume is a little low.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Last night's Heat-Celtics battle was the highest rated non football game in the history of ESPN

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @FREE_COLE This coming finals series could be absolutely huge if it ends up being competitive. 

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Old Man Game A game 7 would be ratings gold

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FREE_COLE Don't worry, we will break every record

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

Cool Thing is since most of European teams best player are so focused on the EURO, and FIFA is going to make it very hard for those same players to play in the Olympics, The U.S. and Mexico have a good chance at maybe winning the Olympic Gold Medal. FIFA isn't going to ask either country's top players to step down since the only games they are playing now are world cup qualifiers! 

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ElMexiThunder US didn't make the Olympics.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Its unfortunate the ECF wrapped on a weekend. There isn't anywhere near as much coverage of the series outlook on the various worthwhile blogs as I am currently craving. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game espn radio on the weekend may be worse than bleacher report...i heard someone seriously say that a westbrook-durant conflict could affect this series....and then alot of talk about us being young

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoymuzik  @Old Man Game B/R at least has Mahoney, Strauss, Shoals, and Holly Mackenzie for good content.  

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Oh god, only on ESPN right. The "controversy" is always a bigger story than the competition for them. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoymuzik  @Old Man Game It depends who you're listening to. Dari and Mel on Saturday mornings are pretty good - Dari's actually a huge Thunder fan so he doesn't tend to buy into all of that tripe.

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Feeling good about my pick of Croatia beating down Ireland.

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