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How does Perry Jones III impact the Thunder?

by Royce Young on June 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm 805 Comments

Sam Presti didn’t hide it when he spoke to reporters Thursday night.

“We didn’t enter this draft thinking that Perry Jones would be there at 28 for us,” he said.

Nobody really did. But there Perry Jones III was, largely because of a medical red flag that popped up days before the draft. Jones supposedly has a “meniscus issue.” What does that involve? Will it require surgery? Regardless, Presti said he didn’t have any reservations.

“[We] felt very comfortable making this selection at 28,” he said. “We looked at all the information that we had available, and we wouldn’t have selected him unless we felt comfortable with all the information.”

When you look at Jones, there’s a consensus — seriously lottery talent but some questions about passivity, some questions about health. But the ability is impossible to ignore, which is why the Thunder ignored all the negatives. A versatile 6-11 player that can hover between the 3 and 4, can pass, shoot, rebound, defend and run the floor. He’s been labeled shy on the court, but it’s not that he lacks effort or drive. He just sometimes tends to blend in, seeming a little unsure of how to impact the game. Not the worst negative in the world to have.

The other ticks against him: He’s not a leader, doesn’t take over games, doesn’t really have a position, doesn’t assert himself and might not be star material. Good news though: The Thunder don’t really need a leader, a guy that takes over games, a guy that has a position or a new star. They’re pretty well equipped on those fronts already. If you’re a GM looking for a building block player in the top 15, Jones would’ve been a major risk. He could be the kind of pick that gets you canned. But at 28 and on a team that doesn’t necessarily have to rely on him? That’s ideal.

Entering the draft, the Thunder had some options. Go for a shooter to space the floor and potentially replace Daequan Cook as the specialist in a year. Go for size inside to possibly replace Nazr Mohammed. Go for an international player to stash overseas. Or go for a versatile stretch 4 that might be able to make a sooner-than-later impact.

That’s Perry Jones.

“We won’t pigeonhole him,” assistant GM Troy Weaver said of Jones’ future position. “We think he can play anywhere on the front line. He’s a versatile player. The coaches will handle that. But we see his versatility as a strength.”

Now, will he be in the rotation next season? I wouldn’t expect it. I imagine that will largely hinge on his health and development. He might see a lot of time in Tulsa. The Thunder aren’t afraid to slowly bake a player, letting him grow and mature at his own pace. And there’s no need to necessarily throw Jones into the fire now. The Thunder are deep and talented as is and while any service he could provide would be nice, there’s no rush.

But, he fills a need, has major talent and depending on how things shake out, could potentially find time on the court. I’m already drooling thinking about a lineup of Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Jones and Ibaka. Length, speed, athleticism, length, size, athleticism, speed, length and more length. I don’t know how NBA ready Jones is, but I can imagine if he were, he could’ve been fairly valuable defending Chris Bosh or chasing Shane Batter around on the perimeter in the NBA Finals.

And I don’t mean to get ahead of myself nor be a downer, but if things find themselves too complicated in the future with Serge Ibaka, Jones could potentially be a worthy replacement. At least he has enough talent to possibly be.

I dare you to watch the video at the top and not get excited about him. Granted, any highlight mix makes a guy look awesome and you’d expect his college coach to rave about his ability, but like I said, Jones is a serious talent. Potentially top 10 or even top five material without the medical questions. I’m gushing. I can’t help it.

(Side note: OKC’s summer league team is going to be fun. Reggie Jackson, Lazar Hayward, Latavious Williams, Jones and Cole Aldrich. I can’t wait to watch it from a grainy handheld camera streaming somewhere.)

Jones should fit the culture of the Thunder extremely well. He’s a grounded, humble, mild-mannered kid that has already called Kevin Durant his favorite player. Having him grow and mature in the Thunder program is probably ideal for him. This is an organization that prides itself on development. It’s almost machine-like. For Jones to settle into it — a blank canvas of a player — is perfect.

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PatrickWarren
PatrickWarren 5pts

Think what this team will be like in 3 more years...

 

Westbrook and Durant will finally hit their prime.  That's scary.  50 PPG combined?  

Harden will go from being the best young SG in the league, to perhaps the best (assuming Allen, Wade, Kobe all retire)

Ibaka might develop an offensive game, learn to play defense without blocking shots

PJIII will just start to become a high-impact player.

 

Could any team stop them?  Heck, just imagine starting Durant, PJIII, and Ibaka.  Is there any team that could stop three long 6'11" players with speed, athleticism, and an outside shot?

SeanzieCrews
SeanzieCrews 5pts

I just watched some highlights of KD during this last summer, Rucker 66 and stuff like that. Crazy to think that this year KD, Russ, and likely James will be competing for an Olympic Gold medal.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @SeanzieCrews and serge...and maybe byron

shiki
shiki 5pts

Byron will miss because of injury

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoymuzik  @SeanzieCrews Bring it on Serge. U-S-A!

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game  @SeanzieCrews if they let serge shoot 3's im switching alliances 

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @SeanzieCrews Crazy awesome!

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

Also RT @ESPNSteinLine Sources say Thunder and coach Scotty Brooks "getting close" on a new deal at last

Amuro
Amuro 5pts

 @FREE_COLE I hope not.. Because Brooks is not gonna change.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Amuro Ok I can't tell, is your picture the Mass Effect dlc guy everyone got pissed about?

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Amuro I still haven't played any of them yet so I will remain hopeful.  Currently finally making my way through Fallout 3!

Amuro
Amuro 5pts

 @FREE_COLE Yeah it is Javik. But the sad part is I pre ordered the Collectors Edition so I got the DLC with it. But it was a bad decision considering how sub par the game. Dumbest thing I've done all year.

JimboSlice
JimboSlice 5pts

 @FREE_COLE "at last" my ass. that makes it sound relieving, not sad

MJOKC
MJOKC 5pts

 @FREE_COLE noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

 @FREE_COLE and all hope for winning a championship was lost :(

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

So I'm finally getting back to watching some PJ3 and one thing he is gonna have to learn from nick is setting a pick.  He's awful at it.  Shoulders come in and he makes himself small, before sliding off quickly. 

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

 @FREE_COLE It took Kevin how many years to draw a charge? Ha! They're both pretty boys. Hopefull --PJ3 will slap the shit outta Chalmers if that scene repeats itself. this is why we need either Artest or Jackson.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @El Prez Keep artest and jackson out of here.  I wouldn't change our team except Cole > Perk.  That fake tough guy crap is exactly that, crap.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @FREE_COLE Between Nick and Perk I bet he can figure it out. Serge is just now getting passable at it. 

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game I actually think Serge is more effective for what it's worth.  Maybe not on the actual screen mechanics but him actually being a threat makes his screens more useful

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Old Man Game Oh yeah.  He was weak before. But come playoff time, we had perk in for screens and defense...and serge was better at both :(

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @FREE_COLE He used to be terrible at it though. Like he would start to roll or pop before the defender had even made contact with him. He's definitely moved past that though. But in terms of getting contact with the defender Nick and Perk are still the best to my mind. 

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

as i was casually scrolling down there was suddenly a realisation that something BIG happened in the commenting section earlier and was obligated to go check it out. The further i scrolled down the more hyped it got, i was pretty sure someone got verbally murdered.

You can tell the disappointment i had when it was about a forum 

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @MrRaysian I got bored with all the scrolling and gave up. If it doesn't involve the regulars around here it doesn't mean a whole lot anyway. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Old Man Game  @MrRaysian instead it involved the guy that said he had sources that perk was out for the rest of the playoffs after game 1 of the 2nd round

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @MrRaysian yeah if you're going to have an episode...really do it 

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I missed a discussion about Cole?!?!?! D:

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts

 @FREE_COLE he will be unleashed.

 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Off topic but the baylor's highlight jersey's are the reason they underachieved PJIII's video game rating is going to go up 10 points when he wears a regular uniform

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

Off topic, but we have no chance in the 100m , 200 and relay in the Olympics 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Lost Ones fine with me lol... i only care about basketball

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @Lost Ones that's for sure lol

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jooseppi , @MrRaysian , @ERROR72 like you guys too! lol

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Good read there, Royce. I must admit--I too salivate at the notion of a small ball lineup of Russ, Harden, KD, PJ3 and either Serge or Nick. If the knee is not a problem--I don't see PJ3 spending a great deal of time in Tulsa. He could help us NOW. This was guy who coming out of high school who was projected as the No. 1 player in the country. His skill set is scary, yet you have figure he will defer to KD and Nick from the get go. I don't mean this at all as a slight towards Scott Brooks because I constantly defend him on here, but sometimes the best coaching on a team is done by the players. Kawhi Leonard wishes he had a skill set in the same zip code as PJ3. We get Eric back, we now have PJ3--now all we need is for Presti to some how persuade Steven Jackson he signed on with the wrong team at the trade deadline last spring. No more moves after that. We would have the best team even if the Heat sign Ray Allen. I can't wait to see how PJ3 develpos now that he's out out of that cesspool in Waco. I can't rememeber--when he signed with Baylor---who were his other serious choices? Some serious coun must have been exchanged to allow Scott Drew to become his coach.

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @El Prez I thought i was the only person who didn't dislike Brooks around here. 

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MrRaysian  @El Prez

There are plenty of us.  We're just not as vocal.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @Old Man Game 

I just keep saying the Serenity Prayer.

 

Really, I'm not worrying too much about it.  It looks like he wants to be back and the team wants him back, so it's just a matter of them coming together on the numbers.  I'm thinking we'll hear something definite any moment now.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @ThunderChick2010  @MrRaysian  @El Prez How are the contract negotiations impacting your feelings toward Brooks if at all? 

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @El Prez Read that ESPN article linked below. He went to Baylor so he could stay close to his Mom who can't easily travel because of a heart condition. 

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game  @El Prez Johns had Perry watch tapes of N.B.A. players with skill sets similar to his — Magic, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Durant. He also showed him film of Secretariat’s Triple Crown races. “He’d say to me, ‘Why are you bringing a horse into this?’ I’d say: ‘You keep watching this. You’ll get it. This is a very fast athlete with a big heart.’   i like this johns guy, perry reminds me of boxer from animal farm.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @El Prez i agree with you 100% if he is healthy i think he can contribute from the beginning..I think alot of people around here are thinking he wont play because he hasn't reached his potential....well his potential is being an all star so even though he hasn't maxed out theres a chance he can still help us right now

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @El Prez I really bet the organization deliberately tries to bring him on slowly.  Even if he seems ready to contribute I could see them still not playing him much at first. Sort of like when the Giants had Eli stand on the sideline for a while watching Kurt Warner.  

JimboSlice
JimboSlice 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell  @Old Man Game  @OBoymuzik  @El Prez or when RJ's 10 mpg got sent to Tulsa so Fish could get 30 mpg

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @JimboSlice  @Old Man Game  @OBoymuzik  @El Prez Or when Serge was still getting benched for nearly the entire second half of important games.

JimboSlice
JimboSlice 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Old Man Game  @OBoymuzik  @El Prez or when James didn't get near enough playtime his first two years, or when Cole never ever got in

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts

 @El Prez http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/13/magazine/mag-13Player-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts

 @El Prez baylor got to him early and he stayed loyal.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

tony allen just posted this on twitter...6th grade kid's highlights

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOnhIM5QNMw

 

 

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Next J lin

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @OkcBaby  @OBoymuzik Next Chris Paul. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Old Man Game  @OkcBaby Russ already hates this kid

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @OBoymuzik i honestly dont think he has the size for the nba. Guys under 5 ft almost never make it at this level. And I doubt he ways more than 90 lbs, Kid needs to hit the gym HARD

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @persiansooner13 lololololololol

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts

 @OBoymuzik but seriously you see vids of kids this age balling all the time, especially in soccer, but this kids passing is unbelievable, i dont think ive ever seen something like that. A super unselfish phenom

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @OBoymuzik That is crazy. It feels like some sort of video editing trick or something seeing a kid that small doing that stuff. Ball faking defenders out of their shoes, throwing no look passes. 

areayewhy
areayewhy 5pts

 @Old Man Game  @OBoymuzik I liked his euro step. pretty freakin sick

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @OBoymuzik I half expected him to dunk it at some point. He was doing pretty much everything else you see out of older players. 

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @Old Man Game that's how u learn when ur a kid. i remember when i was exactly like that doing and practising unnecessary moves. my favourite was the A.I fade away on every jump shot even when ur open 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Old Man Game lol to me it looks like he's just copying what he see's NBA players do...like his no look pass probably has no purpose lol....but its hilarious to watch

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