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Some things never change: The new Thunder era

by Michael Kimball on June 10, 2012 at 2:53 pm 276 Comments

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The NBA Finals are a huge machine of everything that’s descending upon Oklahoma City this week. Drama, the NBA’s brightest stars, important people and people who think they are important, perhaps the brightest media spotlight ever to shine on Oklahoma that doesn’t involve tragedy, disaster or scandal: It’s all coming, and it’s coming all at once.

Thus dawns a new era in Oklahoma City and for the precocious Thunder. Now that the NBA Finals are here, and an NBA title is four wins away, some things are going to change that won’t be changing back for this hopefully-a-decade-or-longer current Thunder era and beyond.

From the team’s perspective, the first permanent change is the obvious.

1. No matter the result of Thunder-Heat, it’s title-or-bust next season and every subsequent season in Oklahoma City.

Let me explain it to you this way. Most of you probably heard about and/or participated in the madness at Academy Sports and Outdoors stores in the hours after the Thunder won the Western Conference, and then the next morning. Thousands of people packed the parking lots at the Academy stores around the Oklahoma City metro late at night for conference championship T-shirts.

That’s not going to happen again here. You only lust for the conference title shirt once.

The team definitely does not seem to have the “just happy to be here” vibe. And to be sure, losing the Finals would be a huge disappointment to the fans and players alike. (Also, an underrated storyline in my opinion, is that NO fan base wants to be the first to lose to LeBron James in the NBA Finals, I’m pretty sure. That would make a bitter loss even more bitter, for example.) But still, this was a step the Thunder were able to take, one last season where there could be incremental improvement that doesn’t include winning it all. Progress has been made, a threshold crossed.

It’s not unthinkable that some future seasons, the Thunder will be playing for more than a title. There could come a point, if there are enough banners hanging from the rafters in downtown Oklahoma City, when the team is playing against ghosts and history books and legends, not just the current opponent. But for awhile, there’s really no more steps the Thunder can take. It’s either win a title, or have a disappointing season — even if it’s a season that the team can be proud of, title-less seasons from here on out will be a bummer.

2. If you have something you think is yours in June in downtown Oklahoma City when the Thunder make it to the Finals, it’s not really yours unless the NBA and its partners say it isn’t theirs.

From real estate in Loud City to public streets outside of Chesapeake Energy Arena to hotels around downtown and Bricktown, if the NBA wants it, the NBA gets it for the Finals. The team, city and local businesses are put in a bad spot in some ways in individual customer relations cases because of NBA contracts and rules, and if you’re one of the people that has something the NBA has a claim to, you just have to accept what is offered to you instead and hope it’s something good.

Some of you probably noticed part of a section in Loud City was converted into overflow media space for the Western Conference finals this season and last. That’s part of the deal the NBA has with the teams and arenas — every arena has to make that space available, even if it isn’t used by the media or league, though the team can make it available to fans at the last minute if it isn’t. Well, that space is even bigger for the Finals, with more Loud City real estate going to the league, displacing some season ticket members. The team offered roughly equivalent seats in other parts of the arena to those ticket holders, and for free. Under the circumstances, that’s about as good of a response to a tricky customer relations issue imposed by a league requirement as you can manage. Just part of the deal if your team advances to the NBA’s grandest stage.

Try telling that to people who aren’t planning their lives around the NBA and had space in downtown Oklahoma City hotel rooms during the Finals, though. Because of contracts the hotels have with the league, some people were straight-up kicked out of their hotel rooms. And, as you know, it’s wedding season. I mentioned this in front of my wife and some of her cohorts, and they were aghast. They all agreed, if they had hotel rooms and/or ballroom space in downtown Oklahoma City for a wedding (or another important reason) and were offered space anywhere else, there’s no equivalent. When pondering the changes to their own weddings that they would have had to make so late in the game (“Invitations would have been sent out weeks ago!”), had the situation happened to them, they quickly devised revenge schemes involving multiple violent felonies.

Even public streets are essentially NBA property, it seems. It’s practically small-scale, temporary eminent NBA domain. The NBA and media quickly got a permit allowing them to shut down some streets by the arena all the way through the end of the Finals — including when the series shifts to Miami for up to a full week. They got the same kind of permit the Thunder uses for Thunder Alley, and got it rubber stamped even without Oklahoma City Council approval, which we’ve learned is not normally the case for such permits, but has been upon occasion for Thunder events.

June in Oklahoma City might be the new mini-version of weddings and other big events in college football states in the fall. Just don’t even try it downtown. For one, people might not show up because they care more about the Finals than free booze and dinner. And logistics problems might initiate a Bridezilla attack.

3. It’s never again going to be weird to see Oklahoma City ranked among the NBA’s elite.

I don’t know about you. But I think that, if most of even the biggest Thunder fans were totally honest, they’d admit to a tiny twinge of doubt and fear when Oklahoma City became the near-consensus pick to reach the Finals before the season started. Just a little bit of, “Man, I hope they aren’t wrong. There are just so many scary-good players, and that breakdown against the Mavs scares the heck out of me still.”

That train of thought didn’t form without good lessons learned from history, either. A lot has been made of the 13-season Western Conference stranglehold the Thunder ended by dispatching the teams that won the 13 previous West titles on their way to the Finals. But it’s also just flat-out rare to win an NBA title, so it makes sense if it was at least a little hard to imagine the Thunder playing for one. Remember, only eight different teams have won an NBA title in the last 28 years, and two of those eight teams (the Mavericks and Heat) only did it once. Think about the really-good-to-great teams just over the last two generations that never even played for a title, much less won one: the Rasheed Wallace-led Blazers, the Steve Nash-led Suns, the Chris Webber-led Kings.

But it won’t be weird to think about the Thunder ascending to the top of the NBA world anymore, not with OKC standing four wins away from a title. It’s clear the Thunder belong. It’s clear the Thunder can be great. With four more wins, it would be clear they already are.

4. During contract negotiations, the Thunder can, with a completely straight face, play the “We’re competing for titles” card.

It’s no fun to dwell on contract situations if your team is still playing in June, so I won’t dwell for long here. But it’s only a couple of weeks until the Thunder’s window opens to negotiate contract extensions with James Harden and Serge Ibaka.

OKC can keep both no matter what they sign for as long as someone is willing to write the check — or checks, because the league would be getting a pretty big one as well once the Thunder go into the luxury tax. And the Thunder WILL go into at least the low end of the luxury tax at some point, most likely even if only one of the Harden and Ibaka duo remains.

Harden himself made reference to the Thunder’s stature in the title picture as a factor in being willing to continue to not only accept but embrace his Sixth Man role going forward. And you have to believe that, if either player is even willing to sacrifice some money to keep the band together for any reason, that competing for championships would be pretty much the only reason. Harden and Ibaka could have said, “Yeah, sort of,” in response to Sam Presti or someone else playing the title competition card this summer if the Spurs had stopped OKC short of the Finals for a second straight year. Now, there’s no doubt: The Thunder really are competing for it all. If neither player decides to take less money than they can get elsewhere, then they never were going to in the first place. But the Thunder can keep saying the same thing to players who want extensions and potential free agent signings for as long as the Durant-Westbrook core is intact.

5. It’s not going to be nearly as easy for Thunder players to hide in plain sight when they are in Oklahoma City.

To be sure, Thunder players have been recognized most places they’ve gone in Oklahoma City for a while now. I know that every time I have seen a player in public, someone has come up to them to shake their hand or take a picture or whatever. But I sense that it’s changing a little bit, at least based on a few anecdotes.

For example, Thabo Sefolosha said that lately, fans have been more “intrusive” here in Oklahoma City. And right about the same time, I heard from a friend that Westbrook was absolutely under siege by fans during a recent trip to Twin Peaks on Memorial Road. Those stories the team used to tell about being able to go out to the mall without being bothered weren’t entirely true to begin with — sure, some people who didn’t know about the Thunder or didn’t really pay close attention just thought, “Who are those huge guys over there?” but there were still people who wanted pictures and whatnot. Now that seemingly everyone is wearing their Thunder shirt to the grocery store and the team has pull in every demographic in the city, that relative anonymity is gone.

I suppose you could make the argument that it will make OKC a little bit less attractive to the current players and prospective ones. Supposedly the anonymity is one of the things that the business-oriented Thunder players really appreciated about Oklahoma City, and it’s gone. But that hasn’t really been the case with the stars for a while. Now, in OKC, it will be true for the Thabo Sefoloshas and Nick Collisons. They’re true local celebrities here.

And for good reason, Oklahoma City. It seems like everything around here is getting cooler by the day. There’s lots of momentum here, rough seas for one of our corporate giants (with deep Thunder connections) notwithstanding. And maybe the coolest thing going on is the Thunder.

Soak it in. We’re in the first week of a new era, and it looks to be a long one. It feels good.

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Mr Lucky
Mr Lucky 5pts

I see the series going like this.

 

1)  As far as both teams "Big 3" go, I think they both will show up, probably cancel each other out.  Let's call it a wash.

 

2)  That makes it a series to be determined by "The Others".  Miller, Battier and Chalmers are good, but the Thunder's bench is better than anyones (wasn't saying that before the Spurs series, but sayin it now). 

 

3)  More than anything, I see the series coming down to defense.  Miami just concluded a tough series with Boston in which the Celtics played some tough and tight defense.  If OKC doesn't bring AT LEAST as much an the defensinve end as the Celts, Heat may find open shots and the opportunity to outscore us.  It has to be DEFENSE FIRST!

 

Whatever happens OKC - Let's do this thing with CLASS! 

 

Thunder in 5.  Thunder Up!

 

Thunderbuzzy
Thunderbuzzy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I think this is a classic match up honestly. Good vs Evil. Lebron, the evil villain who abandoned his Cleveland franchise and fans, the person many people hate simply for the publicity he gets...good or bad. The guaranteeing of championships, cheapening the taste that many others before him have experienced and have full respect for.

 

Then you have the good. Kevin Durant. The guy who quietly signs a max deal with no option to opt out. At the same time Lebron was making his big stink I might add. The guy who quietly has become the best closer in the league. The guy who instantly gives credit everywhere else but to himself. The genuine guy who hugs his momma after every game. "The Gift" as the guys on the Thunder broadcast team like to call him. And I don't think I can think of a better name for him. It's like Christmas every time we get to watch Durant play.

 

This team has instantly become America's darling. With all the teams but 2 eliminated many have turned their loyalty towards the Thunder and Durant. Hoping that once again good will conquer evil!

Sonics
Sonics 5pts

Evil vs Evil...Lebron who left his team or the zombie sonics who left their city and 41 years of history...Hard to choose who to root for...I guess since Cleveland still has a team, I'll root for the Heat.

 

ThunderStruck2412
ThunderStruck2412 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

Random musings:

 

1) ESPN love with the Heat? The Heat won their series more recently. Tons of media love for the Thunder on Thursday after the Thunder had closed the deal in the West. And again, it's the Heat and Lebron. No team, in the history of sports, has been this dissected or analyzed, so not unexpected if we do see more stories about them. There are more narratives around that team as well while the Thunder's is more straight forward.

 

2) Again, did I see someone write they can't even imagine the Heat practicing or putting in hard work? That is a gross, egregious statement. By all accounts, the Heat players are hard workers and true professionals. I'll be rooting like Hell for them to lose every game of this series, but I'm not going to ignore the greatness that is Lebron, that is Wade, how they all made sacrifices as well to play together, the beauty in which they play team defense, etc. This is a great team, and I'd be cheering for them against anyone other then the Thunder.

 

3) I wanted to comment on my comment about the Seattle story. I'm not attacking fans from the Seattle area. I can only empathize with the pain that comes from following a team your whole life and to have that team up and leave. Truly, I am sure it is a horrible and empty experience. But it's not a UNIQUE experience. Sports franchises have relocated and moved since sports franchises existed. It sucks, but to write an article vilifying the Thunder franchise is kind of absurd. Clay Bennett legally bought the franchise. He owns the business. He had the right to move the team and Seattle had the chance build an arena. They didn't. The team moved. The main qualm, I would say, is that the Thunder kept the history of the Sonics. I would hope to see they give that back to Seattle should Seattle get another team.

 

Lastly, I'm a huge Thunder fan....who lives in Virginia. I've never been to Oklahoma and I've never been to Seattle, so it is a bit of an outsider perspective, but it is also devoid of bias. I love the Thunder because I worked with Eric Maynor at basketball camps when he was at VCU and I have liked Durant since I played against him in high school while he was at Oak Hill Academy.

glenda82954
glenda82954 5pts

@ThunderStruck2412 Thank you so much for the even handed observations about the Seattle fans. Are we still hating Utah because they took a team from New Orleans? Do we call the Colts the Zombies because they once resided in Baltimore? I feel for the people of Seattle, but Clay Bennett did not sneak in with trucks in the middle of the night. They had an opportunity and chose not to take it. So be it. I'm really really tired of this sudden (again) vitriol from Seattle urging everyone to cheer for the Heat. Really????

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts

Only CBS guy to pick the Heat? Matt Moore...again. He has picked against us since the second round.  

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

This is how game 1 of the finals will be won: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B2QzmwFHuo

This is how game 2 of the finals will be won: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wXqnGIc_7Y

This is how game 3 of the finals will be won: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57RzJWaYZ0

This is how game 4 of the finals will be won: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0tzivTk_k

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

What the chances that ESPN replaces Chris Broussard with Jalen Rose for the finals?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

some classic material this morning

 

Iman Shumpert just tweeted "I can't complain!!! I start walking tomorrow...Its been a long 6 weeks...No medication, now my next goal is to run"

 

he also just put out this rap track http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/06/11/new-nba-music-iman-shumpert-is-back-to-rapping/

 

...where he talks about taking painkillers in the first 2 lines

shiki
shiki 5pts

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1215991-nba-playoff-schedule-2012-how-important-is-home-court-in-heat-vs-thunder-final 

 

did anyone post this?

MD4Okc
MD4Okc 5pts

 @shiki Wow.....

 

Who is this guy? What is he expecting the Palice circa 2004?

shiki
shiki 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MD4Okc for me,it is not easy job to find worse fanbase than Miami 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MD4Okc  @shiki even he hasn't been here...you watch a thunder game, heat game, and clippers game on tv here's what you can notice

 

Heat: gets loud after big plays from lebron and wade, also after those plays about 50% of the crowd is on their feet. Last 5 mins of the 4th very little are standing...(example: vs the pacers last shot no one was standing before the shot went up...prob 40% stood up as it went up)

 

Clippers games: dunks are the loudest part of the game but they do stand up down the stretch in close games

 

Thunder games: gets loud and everyone stands up whenver the following happens

1.before first basket

2. when james harden enters the game

3. when the thunder go on a run

4.when the other team goes on a run

5. big plays

6. hard fouls or techs

7. 4th quarter (against the timberwolves in february or against the spurs in june)

MD4Okc
MD4Okc 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @shiki Right. And he admittedly has never been to OKC.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @shiki  @MD4Okc only comparable playoff team would be the hawks imo

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @shiki "All that being said, both teams don't have a fanbase that can truly rattle the players on the court the way New York's or Los Angeles' supporters can."

 

 

......................................................................

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @shiki thats me deciding if i want to say something about my ears still ringing from game 6 of WCF...or just my standard bleacher report doing bleacher report things

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 9 Like

The 2012 nba finals between the thunder and the heat will begin tomorrow night and will be available to watch on the weather channel

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

Well, what makes the Heat a team to be feared?  I haven't really seen a lot of their games.  What problems would they pose to the Thunder?  And in retrospect, what are the Thunder advantages in this series? or How can they beat MIA?

EVDebs
EVDebs 5pts

 @thelaughingwiseman What makes the a team to be feared by the Thunder? The fact that, every once in a while, LBJ can totally take a game over and win it by himself. That happened precisely once in the Celtics series (Game 6). Other than that, the Celtics were in every single game...and really should have won game 2 (as well as Games 3, 4, and 5, which they did win).  And the Thunder are a lot better than the Celtics.

 

Both Bosh and Wade can do some damage. But Wade is not 100%. Bosh might not be either. And the Thunder have answers for both of them.

blueRAP
blueRAP 5pts

 @thelaughingwiseman I think one of the biggest things to worry about is the bitter taste of last years Finals lost that the Heat will have. They DO NOT want to lose a 2nd straight Finals, and I fear that they may want it more than our guys do because of that. The worst thing that could happen is if they capitalize on their hunger and play great and the Thunder stumble due to their first time being here.

blueRAP
blueRAP 5pts

 @thelaughingwiseman That said, if the Thunder can pull out wins in the first two home games, we'll go on to win this series on momentum.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @thelaughingwiseman when locked in defensively they are scary, besides that if thabo slows down wade and KD focuses on defending lebron we'll be fine...we lost game 2 of the season series because we fell asleep on 2 battier 3's

 

the 2 deciding factors to me is how healthy bosh is, and what they do on russ, they don't have the bigs to make the adjustments that the lakers made on him, or a defender like parker to slow him down 1 on 1

Aren't
Aren't 5pts

 @thelaughingwiseman LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chis Bosh....that's about it. Oh! And Mike Miller exploding for 30 every night. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

the trackback at the bottom of the page from a cavs website is awesome

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Agreed. Went there too.

blueRAP
blueRAP 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Is it tuesday night yet?

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

I am not liking ESPN's love fest with the Heat right now, I only like the picks the "experts" are giving though

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @thelaughingwiseman I think it's great. Put all the media spotlight and all the pressure on the vaunted Heat as opposed to the young Thunder. 

Kreese29
Kreese29 5pts

@Old Man Game @thelaughingwiseman I agree all the pressure is on the heat. This should make the thunder more relax

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @anonymous12345  @thelaughingwiseman  @Kreese29 They won't get that far. Thunder in 6!

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @thelaughingwiseman  @Kreese29

 A lot of them are picking the Heat in 7.  I don't have a problem with them picking the heat, but I don't see anyway they could possibly win a game 7 at the Peake

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

 @Kreese29  @Old  @thelaughingwiseman I guess you guys have a point, it still would have been nice to see a piece on how the Thunder got here though.  I hope the Thunder take the first 2 games and Game 3 in Miami.  I believe the Thunder have a great chance to take game 3 if they win the first 2

Kreese29
Kreese29 5pts

I was reading the bleacher report and it said that ray Allen would be a good pick up for the thunder next season. Is that even possible, won't he want too mich money?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Kreese29 it's not impossible...but if bleacher report is saying it, it probably won't happen

oregonthunder
oregonthunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 12 Like

I am a sonics turned thunder fan from Portland, OR (I have always hated the blazers, and to add to it blazer fans are very annoying). Its easy to see why sonics fans were extremely disappointed to see their team leave, having attended sonics games and Seattle Mariner games (not to mention Seattle Seahawks crazy fans), seattle definitely can argue they have one of the most passionate fanbases in sports. But I agree with everybody that it is about time for sonics fans to grow up and stop the hating. First of all, how can they not root for Durant and Collison who played in Seattle? I am still just as big a thunder fan as I was sonics despite not having the opportunity to go to a thunder game to this point (definitely on my to-do list). The worst part is when an old sonics fan gives crap to a sonics-turned-thunder fan for sticking with the team. They would rather root for there longtime rivals the Blazers? I can see the NBA expanding to 32 in the future and if so, I hope seattle gets a team. But until then, wow I am with all of you its about time to grow up and even if you don't cheer for the thunder, stop hating on them and their terrific fanbase. That is all. Oh and also, dhfkadhfkajlkfjadklfjlkdajfklj I wish tomorrow were Tuesday djfalkjfdlkajfsldkj I am going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and also, I was at the Oregon vs Oklahoma game in Eugene and that was the clearly the worst call I have ever seen. GO THUNDER!!!!!!

glenda82954
glenda82954 5pts

@oregonthunder Thank you on all accounts. A truely wonderful voice from the Pacific Northwest!!

OBoyzOld Man
OBoyzOld Man 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@oregonthunder Many more posts for you, bro.

blueRAP
blueRAP 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @oregonthunder You are my new favorite person from Oregon

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @oregonthunder Whatever the opposite of an internet troll would be (anti-troll?) you sir are it! Welcome aboard. 

KMart
KMart 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @oregonthunder I lived outside OKC for 7 years, but now I will be moving to Portland in 3 weeks bringing my Thunder passion with me. Hopefully that move will be post-championship 'beginning of an era' Thunder.

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

is it me or does it seem like its coming down to everything thats RIGHT with basketball *building your team, team effort, passion, ect*  vs  everything WRONG with basketball *buying your talent, cockiness, no team work ect..*  ?   

 

also i know im dead wrong on this but..it just seems strange to me to think of the heat like...practicing..ya know..like watching film together, running sets, having in depth conversations on the other opponents sets ect..    To me it just seems like they rely on individual talent to carry them in most games. Cause honestly, they didnt make to many changes, at least from what i could see in this boston series.  Lebron attacked more when KG was out, but he always seems to go hard at first then just kinda fade back.  Bosh's points are mostly on PNR  and are wide open jumpers,  wade can be crafty but if you clog the lane he takes ill advised jumpers.    idk, maybe im the only one that sees it this way, and its not homer glasses, i just know how hard our guys work their asses off to get here.  I HIGHLY doubt the heat could of survived the gauntlet of teams we just went through unscathed.  

 

god i cant wait till tuesday  :) 

docbndgrl9113
docbndgrl9113 5pts

 @Legendary_dork I absolutely agree with you. Other than the big 3 on Miami, they really don't have anybody who can constantly contribute points. That's why I don't see why anybody would pick the Heat to win over the Thunder. But I guess someone has to root for the Heat.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Oboyz wasn't lying. Beasley really is guarding Dcooks kids... Thats actually kinda cool.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Obviously this board has mixed feelings about The Sonics supporters. I recommend we let that talk go till after the finals. Its too much of a touchy subject. Ignore the media, ect. Please lets not tear a rift like last summer because of it.

rribbonz
rribbonz 5pts

Ya know, it's been bugging me for awhile. Something about Lebron's face always seemed familiar to me.

 

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/6al2a

 

Then it hit me. He's Bert!

 

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/m2ded

 

;)

 

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @rribbonz

 They DO do a lot of counting on Sesame Street . . . not 1, not 2, not 3 . . .

northernthunder
northernthunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

http://www.thenation.com/blog/168311/do-you-know-your-enemy-why-we-should-all-root-miami-heat-beat-oklahoma-city-thunder ...Did you know that Seattlans are awesome because they fought against corporate corruption and wouldn't give Bennett money! Never mind that they built 2 new stadiums for their other teams. I feel bad for the fans in Seattle, but this Sonicgate stuff is getting a bit ridiculous. Somebody was gonna pay Schultz for the team and take the team where they pleased. Sports franchises are businesses in the U.S. and they are owned by private entities. It gives the teams leverage to get what they want because if you don't give in they can always relocate. So, teams move, fans get sad, the new fans get happy and life moves on.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @northernthunder I think all of us can relate to the fans of the Sonics, but this guy makes it harder to do so.  It's gotta burn their hides that some "dumb Okies" bought a franchise, and then you know, actually turned them into something worth watching.

Aren't
Aren't 5pts

 @northernthunder I heard Oakland is still broken up over their loss of the California Golden Seals.

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @northernthunder  sigh. ive watched that sonic gate thing and its just well... whiny.  I understand they lost their team..i get that. but they ONLY show you the stuff they want to. paint this person evil, heres the innocent fans that were wronged *even though attendance was the lowest in years and they didnt seem to give a crap* 

 

what chaps my ass is all the hate towards us, like us evil oklahomans just waltz in and curled our mustaches and laughed the evil laugh.   Its just so petty to do this, hold on to something like this.  I have no compassion for these people cause thats life.  If the thunder were taken from us in 30 years or so, its probably cause us as fans just stopped caring.  teams DO move, stars fade, life....she can be cruel. 

Seattle wont be pleased til they get a new team, then, we will be come instant rivals, in their mind of course.

docbndgrl9113
docbndgrl9113 5pts

 @Legendary_dork  Thank you! I mean, I feel sorry for the diehard Sonics fans that went to games and supported the team, but it seems like there's some posers who never really supported them and are now just mad that the team moved to OKC and are in the Finals. Hopefully when Seattle gets another NBA team they go out and support it and don't take it for granted.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

"So, teams move, fans get sad, the new fans get happy and life moves on."

 

I'm sure this is easier to say for us as members of the "new" group.  The root-for-Miami sentiment seems a little petty, but (as said in an earlier thread) we'd do well to respect the reality that our pride and joy came at the expense of others who loved their team.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

@ThunderChick2010 In the end the others never really got their final say. They got screwed. However, should members of the new group feel bad? NO. Should they understand why the Sonic fans are upset, and understand what they have in front of them is at the expense of others? Yes. Hate on the writer not the fan base that if anything most still support the same team even if its hundreds of miles away.

ThunderStruck2412
ThunderStruck2412 5pts

 @northernthunder Article is such a joke. Seattle does realize that they are just one of many cities who lost their team? Are people in Minnesota still crying about all those Lakers championships? Didn't hockey teams leave hockey markets for Southern towns (Winnipeg to Atlanta, Hartford to Raleigh, etc.)? How many baseball teams are still in their original cities? The people of Seattle didn't own the Sonics. Point blank. It really must suck to lose a sports franchise (and then see that franchise go on to the success the Thunder have gone on to), but that's the way of the world. Cry me a river. Sports is a business. Big business. Bennett and Company bought the team with THEIR money and they could do what they wanted to.

 

Aside, laughable that he also trying to make the point that Key Arena was adequate and that no public money should be used in the funding of professional stadiums....you know, like pretty much every sports stadium in America.

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[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ThunderStruck2412  @northernthunder It's not laughable at all.  Imagine 37 years from now you lose the Thunder.  Sonics fans did not want to lose the Sonics.  

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC

 I hope it's just the late hour that's robbed you of your empathy and tact.

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[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @ThunderStruck2412  @northernthunder Internet tough guys, are the best tough guys.  LOL.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @ThunderStruck2412  @northernthunder Direct your angst toward the the writer, not toward Seattle or Sonics fans.

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    [...] Some Things Never Change: The New Thunder Era (from DailyThunder.com) I really enjoyed this piece because of how much the OKC situation reminds me of the LeBron/Cleveland situation.  Not for the chance at a title, because OKC has a team that Cleveland could have only DREAMED about during the LeBron run.  No, this is for exactly how things changed for a smallish city making a prolonged run at a title.  Patrick couldn’t have put it better here: when you are THIS good, it’s a completely new era.  Enjoy it OKC, I sure wish I did during the LeBron run. [...]

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