To These people that act like the notion of rigged NBA games is completely unbelievable:
1) Tim Donaghy was reffing games as recently as 2007. 2007!!
2) Tim Donaghy attended the same high school as Joe Crawford, Mike Callahan and Ed Malloy
3) Using binomial distribution, given the record of the Thunder in postseason games over the last two years, there is a 98.5% chance that Joe Crawford is negatively influencing the outcome of Thunder games.
Those are all facts.
@FF_pickups Well as the officiating conversation roles on...all I can say is that the Thunder/Spurs games 3 and 4 were called very fairly. I don't think either team really got preferential treatment.
Sad thing is the NBA and it's officiating crews have lost credibility. And there isn't really a good way for them to get it back I don't think. There will always be bad calls here and there and people will immediately play the "rigged" card when it happens. Whether the games are rigged or not I don't know for sure. But the NBA needs to find a way to regain some credibility.
I'm not saying that the games are or are not rigged. I am saying that it's a fair conversation.
@FF_pickups Has the NBA changed anything about it's referee training or discipline since Donaghy? I certainly haven't heard anything, and they still have people too old to see or get in position to see most fouls. I don't understand why that isn't a bigger deal.
Why do you watch then if you already believe the winner is rigged? It seems to me all your data does is confirm what we already know, Joey Crawford is a bad referee.
@FF_pickups A ref could be calling the game in a consistent way that also negatively impacts the Thunder without it meaning that the game was rigged against us. Hell, we should wish that games were rigged as I'm pretty sure the NBA would love to see us in the finals.
@osanowhoa So you wouldn't mind seeing the Thunder get to the Finals through rigging?
That's not basketball. There's no pride in "winning" that way at all.
@blueRAP Well no, that's not actually something I would want. I was more trying to make the point that it doesn't make much sense to suggest the NBA has an agenda to rig the game for San Antonio against OKC.
@FF_pickups if you're using statistics to analyze the playoffs, there's probably a problem with sample size that could be skewing the data.
@areayewhy I'll try to help you understand what the binomial distribution is. It's a way analyzing the probability of a dataset given the underlying probability of an outcome and sample size. i.e. it takes sample size into context when it calculates it.
@FF_pickups Does this establish coorelation or causation?
@FF_pickups i was just thinking that a larger sample size would reduce the margin of error within an analysis. I don't know much about statistics minus a couple classes I've taken.
Good grief rondo what amazing passes.
We need to put Russ in a room and have him watch rondo video for hours.
I guess KD and Harden should watch too.
so the mock draft for Scott Howard-Cooper has Jeffery Taylor at 20, Royce White at 21 and Draymond Green at 27. But then again, he has us taking Marquis Teague...
He dribbles away from the primary action on the play. He didn't want to pass it. He sabotaged Spo there.
@Jooseppi but it did turn out to be an open look for wade. so all in all it wasn't bad. just didn't make it and for some reason faded like crazy when daniels already gave up
@MrRaysian He's a 29 percent 3-point shooter. He faded. he was twisting. While technically open it was a horrible shot and horrible decision on a play they absolutely executed to perfection other than Wade.
@MrRaysian Even if he doesn't fade he's not making it. That's not his range.
lmao on RealGM Miami fans saying series is rigged to extend and that the officiating in this game was "WCF 2002 Game 6-lite". I understand fans aren't objective sometimes, but that's pretty heinous considering that they are by far the most coddled team by the officials in the NBA, and STILL got plenty calls their way tonight
Seriously though, this 'the league is rigged' BS needs to go away. It is not rigged, stop trying to make yourself feel better about your team losing.
I thought the Heat got way more calls than the Celtics. And Joey Crawford was in the house last night so I think it's open game on NBA rigged conversation.
I did a regression analysis and the Heat were by far the biggest positve outlier in terms of regular season to post season free throw attempt improvements. The Nuggets had the biggest negative effect with the Thunder a close second.
They get more calls because they're the more aggressive team. Bad calls do happen and super stars do get favored by refs. But thats different from saying something is rigged.
@JimboSlice celtics free throws : 14-20 . heats : 17-24 . man SOOOOOOOOo rigged. how about making your damn free throws. hell lebron for being such an MVP missed 4 of his so. yeah. excuses excuses
@JimboSlice The next time they call a travel on Wade it will be the first time.
@Jooseppi @JimboSlice Maybe they should get called on the foul when Rondo is going for the layup and gets smacked in the head. Oh, don't wanna call those fouls.
RT: @tomhaberstroh: Wade (a 29% 3-pt shooter) called the final attempt a "50/50 shot." I guess "29/71 shot" doesn't have the same ring to it
He's not wide open on all 100% of his 3 pt attempts. What's Wade's 3pt % on WIDE OPEN uncontested 3's?
@FF_pickups Any advantage he had of it being technically open was killed with a stupid twisting fadeaway. What's his percentage on stupid twisting fadeaway threes? I imagine it's worse than 29 percent.
Wades 3 was not a wide open 3 though. He had to pump fake it and then rush it to beat the buzzer. It was a good look, but far from wide open.
@anonymous12345 @FF_pickups @Jooseppi Can't believe Wade didn't initiate contact on the shot. He had the guy up in the air.
Like I said, he used the pump fake to get a shot off. Your picture doesn't really show that. By your definition every shot every is a wide open shot. To me a wide open shot would be similar to the 3 that Lebron made to send it to OT.
Here's a picture of it:
Wide open is the term that comes to mind.
It was wide open.
"Nuggets targetting Royce White at 20th pick"
Dangit. First Faried, now White. They take all my guys
@JimboSlice need to go euro stash
Unless Bosh is back 100 percent, OKC or SA is going to spank MIA or BOS from every angle.
@Jooseppi OKC in 5 pending officiating if playing MIA
I think that SA is going to have trouble with the Heat regardless.
@Jooseppi Even if he is back, we have defenders to blanket him.
STATS OF THE NIGHT
Lebron/Wade 19 of 47
Lebron 7 TOs and fouled out.
Boston scored only 28 points the second half after scoring 61 in the first half.
The two teams scored 6 in OT.
Chalmers the goat.
"Usually that's a shot he makes."
"Couldn't ask for a better look."
No and no.
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1084733/wademiss2.gif lol at him fading away
@Lost Ones WHY did he fade? Geez
@ThunderWins @Lost Ones Because the only way to win a game is a fading, twisting three.
@Jooseppi @Lost Ones No wonder he has such a bad average, he should just square up and try to put it down.
The more I watch it the more I think Wade sabotaged that play so he could hero ball.
I'm going to bring the topic onto the video above. I think Royce analysed one of the newer crunch time play for KD and it obviously works really effectively. Now, what is the counter to this move?
@MrRaysian The counter is not letting him get beneath the elbow. If you do, you've lost.
@Jooseppi well ThunderWins really hit it on the head. just not allow him to get the ball. so how can OKC counter their counter? unpredicted cut from russ and oop from Harden?
@MrRaysian The counter is doing stuff with Russ as the screener. That's why he's there. Makes it harder to double. If they do you pop him in the ball under the basket.
@Jooseppi @MrRaysian Thats such a fun play because you can use it to open up other stuff.
This could turn into a real offense if you keep adding wrinkles and if you involve all 5 players tough to stop.
@ThunderWins @MrRaysian Russ cutting, some stuff on the side with Harden and a big. It's a fun, simple little set.
@MrRaysian You have to double and force the ball out of his hands. Or push him out of the spot (aka Marion)
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