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Monday Bolts – 7.2.12

by Royce Young on July 2, 2012 at 11:20 am 68 Comments

Berry Tramel says Harden isn’t a sure thing to go to London: “If our projection is accurate, it will mark the first time that three sets of teammates — Westbrook and Durant, Paul and Griffin and Anthony and Chandler — have competed on the same summer Olympic team. We’ll find out the actual roster during a selection show Saturday at 6 p.m. on NBA TV. When the names are unveiled, don’t expect to hear Harden’s until 2016.”

A massive 2011 Perry Jones III feature from the New York Times: “There is a circularity to this, a kind of senselessness in which recruiting becomes a game within a game, divorced from the traditional goals associated with a team. Perry Jones III will most likely lead to some version of Perry Jones IV, Perry Jones V and so on — big-time prospects will be drawn to Baylor because it’s a basketball program that signs big-time prospects. Baylor made Jones a better player this season, but he is unlikely to ever become a mature college player, one who develops over time and grows alongside teammates. If he decides to leave Baylor after one season, some N.B.A. team will make him a high pick and an instant millionaire based solely on his potential. His first pro coaches, though, are likely to wish he had gained more experience in college. Tough enough for the Big 12 is not tough enough for professional basketball.”

That one painted Thunder car is for sale.

Berry Tramel on Ibaka/Harden: “I think it’s quite possible that Ibaka will give the Thunder a hometown discount. But I don’t see how it’s going to be enough of a discount for the Thunder to keep Ibaka and also avoid payroll cap hell. As for the idea that the Nick Collisons of the NBA will be bumped down to minimum pay, I think that’s quite likely. I think that’s where teams will try to save money. Pay its top talent whatever it takes, then just fill out the roster with whoever’s available at virtually-minimum wage, including key role players like Collison.”

Kevin Durant won Sportsman of the Year at the BET Awards.

Jeff Green is close to re-signing with the Celtics.

KD, hanging in DC, via the Bog: “Since Oklahoma City lost to LeBron and the Heat in the NBA Finals, plenty of D.C. folks have been playing the always-popular “Spot Kevin Durant” game. DC Fab had him at Cafe Asia last weekend. Reliable Source had him at Eden Lounge early Tuesday morning, drinking Champagne and cognac sans sparklers. Heck, people are even posting photos of Durant outside Smithsonian museums. Early Sunday morning, we had another Durant sighting, this time at Chi-Cha Lounge on U Street.”

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Crow
Crow 5pts

Prediction: Durant vs Jones at QB in flag football game in September. Jones wins.

Crow
Crow 5pts

might be fun:

 

Durant vs Jones at PG in practice. Or Center.

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Green shouldn't be allowed to re-sign with Boston after that ridiculous ruling forcing us to surrender another draft pick to them. It's like someone trying to get their check comped because there was something wrong with their meal after they ate the whole thing anyway.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Fuzzy Logic Presti's already figuring out how to take Danny Ainge to the cleaners again and win back that 2nd round pick.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/07/death-and-luxury-taxes-the-thunders-complicated-future/

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

No Scotty news...no Thabeet news...  c'mon man, throw us a bone!

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Tronchaser I thought that Scotty and the Thunder had agreed in principle on 4 years at $4 mil per.

S4TISF4CTION
S4TISF4CTION 5pts

Why is Dwight such a child...

neo12
neo12 5pts

 @S4TISF4CTION Jeez, i thought Carmelo handling of trade request was bad.  This is 2x, since this has carried over 2 seasons. If he's not traded to Nets, expect the circus to continue 1 more year..

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @S4TISF4CTION  Because he was drafted straight out of high school. I really think they need to make the rule two years of college. I haven't attended college or any type of post-high school facilities, but apparently some people should have (Dwight, Lebron.) 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder  @S4TISF4CTION college wouldnt have changed anything its just his personality.v 

Thunder Tim
Thunder Tim 5pts

we seem to like to be 3-deep for our 15-man squad. looking like this I guess:

 

Russ / Maynor / Reggie

Thabo / Harden / Ivey (?)

Perk / Cole / ? (Thabeet?)

Serge / Nick / PJ3

KD / DC (?) / Lazar

 

could flip Reggie and Ivey I guess

Will Thabeet be the 3rd Center?

will we play PJ3 as more of a 4 or 3?

I feel kinda bad for Latavious Williams. He's not got much of a shot.

 

diddoff
diddoff 5pts

 @Thunder Tim Could PJ take over Cooks role with the second unit immediately? I'd like to see that.

Thunder Tim
Thunder Tim 5pts

 @diddoff assuming he is what we hope he is, that would work for me!

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @diddoff  @Thunder Tim i hope.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

 @diddoff  @Thunder Tim I'd assume he's going to play mostly at the 4 his rookie season. 

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @Thunder Tim  We're 4 deep in SG, and 2 in SF. PJ would play more SF then either Cook or Lazar would. He'll get maybe at most 8 minutes a game to start season. 

Marty_McFly321
Marty_McFly321 5pts

If the Spurs could keep Ginobili, Parker and Duncan together all these years in a small market I think we can do the same with our stars... right? 

 

Please tell me I'm right...

Marty_McFly321
Marty_McFly321 5pts

Guys you were supposed to just tell me I was right haha

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @Marty_McFly321 the difference is you named 3 players, we already have 2maxs that take up 50%+ of the cap, and this was before the new tax laws.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @Marty_McFly321  Genobili, and Even Parker took less then what the were worth. Geno has been a top 4 SG top 3 for most of his career, but he's never really gotten paid the way he should. He's never gotten JJ money i can tell you that.

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

@ElMexiThunder Geno?

BeautyandThabeet
BeautyandThabeet 5pts

 @ElMexiThunder Gino? not Geno

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts

 @Grolgar  @ElMexiThunder Manu Genobili In spanish america thats his nickname. 

Thunder Tim
Thunder Tim 5pts

 @Marty_McFly321 as long as Harden (and Ibaka) take a little less money to make it work, yes.

diddoff
diddoff 5pts

Is Jrue Holiday a max player? 

Marty_McFly321
Marty_McFly321 5pts

 @diddoff Lol why not?  Everyone seems to be getting max contracts nowadays.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @diddoff I wouldn't have pegged any of the Sixers as max players, but if he thinks the Market's good for it, go for it dude. 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

any news on thabeet?  oh, and happy 4th thunder anniversary :)

todayisbananas
todayisbananas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @cleandoe The news is he is still very tall, which is good.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

@WojYahooNBA: Anthony Davis suffered a severely sprained ankle in a Hornets workout and almost assuredly is unable to play for Team USA

 

So uh... who's playing Center for Team USA again?

Grolgar
Grolgar 5pts

@ou_sas Every player eliminated helps Harden's case... Although I don't think Davis was making it anyway. If Odom still makes the team I will be embarrased for the country. It would be our worst showing since the war of 1812.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

 @ou_sas Chandler and Love.

Eggs Benedict
Eggs Benedict 5pts

 @Jooseppi  @ou_sas Maybe Odom with garbage minutes?

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Eggs_Benedict  @ou_sas Ugh no. Keep that off the team. 

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas KD?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @f5alcon Him or Lebron. I just worry playing against the Gasols and Serge now.

BrockSuede
BrockSuede 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas Hasheem Thabeet?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @BrockSuede I'd rather send Perk.

see-mittens
see-mittens 5pts

 @ou_sas Dream scenario. KD plays center.  Gets a good post game. Doesn't get hurt. Doesn't get worn out. All the work translates to the NBA. He becomes the most dominant player since Jordan

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @cemitten I'm guessing Lebron'd be more likely to get minutes playing center than KD. I'm actually concerned about playing Spain the more I hear about big guys getting hurt for us. "@chrislittmann: Keeping track of Team USA's injuries: Anthony Davis, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose."

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@cemitten "@russbengtson: If anyone wants to play for the 2012 USA Men's National Basketball Team, send highlight tape to ohgodstopgettinghurt@usabasketball.com"

 

see-mittens
see-mittens 5pts

 @ou_sas Wade Bosh Davis and Howard are all suspect injuries, and Rose's happened in the playoffs. No real worry.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @ou_sas damn those hornets. almost as cursed as the blazers and the clippers of old

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @cleandoe It's probably a fake injury - they just don't want him going and getting himself injured playing overseas before they get a chance to get him going this year. "He uh... isn't going to be able to play for team USA... because of.. uh... a sprained ankle! Yeah, he's got a sprained ankle, he can't go. Sorry guys."

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas lol. reminds me of when i was watching iron man yesterday. whenever anything bad happened it was a "training exercise" hehe

The_Beard_Knows
The_Beard_Knows 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Wow.  Anyone read the PJ3 feature?  I am unbelievably more excited about the pick, team fit and obvious directions of development after reading that!

Thunder Tim
Thunder Tim 5pts

 @The_Beard_Knows agreed. good (and long!) article

 

Serge Iblocka
Serge Iblocka 5pts

 @Thunder Tim  @The_Beard_Knows

 crazy long but good read

 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

lack of bolts today. the offseason, indeed

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @cleandoe We're all pretty much waiting on the Olympics and James Harden's extension. 

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