The Thunder dropped to 0-2 with a 78-74 loss to the Pacers and it raises some serious questions. Do they need to make a trade? Is the Jackson-Hayward-Aldrich core good enough? Is Mark Bryant on the hot seat? What’s going on with Marquez Haynes and why isn’t he playing more? Do the Thunder need to shake up the starting five?
Oh that’s right, Summer League. Anyway, grades for the roster guys and a few general thoughts:
Reggie Jackson: B
His line is ugly — 13 points on 5-15 shooting, four assists, two rebounds, three turnovers — but I really felt like Jackson played a pretty solid game. He looked extremely comfortable running high pick-and-roll sets with Cole Aldrich, attacked the rim well and at times looked like he couldn’t be guarded.
Where Jackson had his most issues was defensively where he was just a step slow at the point of attack. Lance Stephenson torched him, and it was mostly off of dribble penetration. Jackson is quick, strong and big, but he got caught peeking for a coming screen a few times and that gave Stephenson the first step to the rim.
Perry Jones III: C+
Not nearly as impressive from Jones — eight points, four rebounds — but he made smart decisions, took good shots and played within his own game. I think it might’ve been tempting to come out and really try and showcase a bunch of skill after yesterday’s buzz, but he played a collected game.
I’m still a little shocked at his size though. Twice he overpowered people in the lane for baskets at the rim. He’s a big 6-11 and has a bunch of bulk on him. Everything I saw of him while he was in college seemed like he was this skinny kid, but Jones is built.
Cole Aldrich: C
Cole Aldrich finished today’s game with seven fouls. (You can’t foul out of Summer League games.) He just doesn’t seem to have much feel right now. I’ve never though he had incredible hands by any means, but he’s fumbled more rebounds and passes than I’ve ever seen. Like I said after Game 1, Aldrich is the type of player that’s going to benefit from the players around him on the floor. The better the people he plays with, the better he’ll be.
The main thing I’m disappointed with is the fact he’s not making an impact on the offensive glass. He’s active, but just isn’t getting anything.
I’d like to see more post touches for him though. Why not? The games don’t matter. Give Aldrich some touches on the block and see what he can do.
Something he’s doing very well: screening. He’s setting some crushing picks and creating a lot of space for Jackson off the dribble.
Lazar Hayward: A
I’m telling you, I like Lazar Hayward. I don’t think he’s ever going to have some kind of rotational impact for the Thunder, or probably anyone else for that matter, but he’s just a solid, fundamental player. He handles the ball well, rebounds, passes and can hit an open shot. He’s just a complete player, albeit, a not exceptionally talented one.
A few other notes:
- After sitting out the first game, Latavious Williams saw his first real Thunder minutes and impressed the heck out of me. He went 5-8, scored 10 points and grabbed nine rebounds… in 17 minutes! He’s just always around the ball. He’s got really long arms and his timing on the glass is exceptional. The Thunder have that 15th spot open and I’m definitely pulling for Williams to get it. He’s got talent and he just produces when he plays.
- Mo Almond and Garrett Temple hit a few shots. And other than that, I forgot they were on the team.
- Lance Stephenson is a bully. And I mean that in a good way. He plays rough, gets after people and uses his size to make it tough for whoever is across from him. He’s a Summer League superstar. Also, what was up with his shorts? Was he doing a cheerleader rollover move with the waistband? Come on now.
- Perry Jones tweaked an ankle late in the game. He left and did not return. He iced it on the bench and limped to the locker room. His status for Wednesday is unknown.





What other backup center could we have gotten in 2010 draft instead of Cole. The other people on the board don't seem that much better.
Aldrich is the worst player in NBA history, Latavious Williams might be Moses Malone 2.0, trade Ibaka and start Latavious.
@justin_mia seriously though, if one started latavious who would be he beside? anyone think he could guard an nba center starter or sub? straight, real question.
@Crow @justin_mia no. PF yes, center no.
@justin_mia just curious did you watch todays game?
@OBoymuzik @justin_mia nah, he just wants to grade D troll
@Lost Ones @justin_mia i get the don't overreact thing...but i think it's more valid on guys like PJIII that have underachieved, most of us have never seen Lat Williams play before today
@justin_mia D
scouting report... when rj puts the ball between his legs it is one more dribble then he makes his move. right?
It appears the thunder are head for a team with 6+ guys under $2 mil a year long-term. That is probably smart value wise but maybe not championship-wise.
@Crow Probably have a steady rotation of guys on rookie deals. If you can be like San Antonio and hit on those, it's not a bad deal. And when Perk's deal comes off the books, you can afford the occasional splurge. But that also relies on your entire core producing every game in the post season.
@ou_sas yeah. harden and westbrook came up short of what they need against miami. harden maybe has more excuse than westbrook given the opposition faced (a lot of wade). if chalmers keeps your shooting in relative check 4 of the 5 big games are you a superstar?
@Crow I think it depends on the matchups. He certainly seemed to eat Dallas up, and did - to my eye test, mind - relatively well versus LA and San Antonio. I think he and the whole team threw out a clunker against Miami.
@ou_sas any year is just one but his 4th playoffs may be a tipping point for evaluations. so far generally not a playoffs superstar.
@Crow I wonder just how much the Thunder losing game 2 rattled their confidence. To put together better and better starts only to lose each one. All of their games were winnable - until game 5 - but to have each one progressively slip out of reach had to be demoralizing. But Russ' jumper was temperamental the entire playoffs. He only had one good series where it fell for him the entire series, and I think that lack of consistent threat was what really hurt him.
future perry jones compared to mcdyess? work more than it doesn't? maybe not but at least another name to think about
@Crow I think he is more athletic and not as good of a jumpshot yet
@f5alcon yes
@f5alcon mcdyess was one of the best bigs at the midrange jumpshot. has good at other inside stuff before he was injured
@f5alcon @Crow i like what his jump shot has right now just need practice, with nba trainers .
@Crow @Lost Ones @f5alcon After an airball by a reporter: "You shoot like Maz"
@JimboSlice @Lost Ones @f5alcon brian keefe
@JimboSlice @Lost Ones @f5alcon it is prob the asst coach who played in cali
@JimboSlice @Lost Ones @f5alcon what were the jokes?
@Crow @Lost Ones @f5alcon based on KD's jokes, I would like to think it's not Maz Trakh lol
@Lost Ones @f5alcon which ast coach do u think is the shot re-education coach?
I'd like to see some cole baseline screens for variety
didnt get to see much of the game, but perry still looked solid. Cole seemed to improve a bit. didnt get to see lat play at all but looking at the stats, jesus. reggie is falling into place a bit.
@Legendary_Dork Yeah, cole went from sucking balls to sucking ass.
@Legendary_Dork game was boring as hell.. rather pointless to watch
@Lost Ones its summer league, not the wcf's :P . course it will be
Two threads at once is so friggin confusing :(
@cleandoe the other thread is winning
@cleandoe yes it is
lat will is a beast
@f5alcon what does that make perk now? beast-emeritus?
Lazar Hayward could score 90 in one of these games and I somehow would still be underwhelmed. Just... he's so Devin Brownish
if Lat Williams does this 1 more time this week he should be on our roster no questions asked...and he probably will get more minutes so it won't be hard
@OBoymuzik But Grant Hill!
@diddoff yeah unless we get grant hill
@Crow @OBoymuzik @diddoff It should say "Beat the Heat and LA's Gay. Welcome to OKC Grant"
@OBoymuzik @diddoff does grant hill want a bulletin board? should he get it?
@OBoymuzik very true. And a defensive anchor as well. I'm still clueless as to why he didn't play over Fish like... every single game ever
@diddoff it's going to suck when Ivey joins the Spurs plays 20 min per game and becomes a sharpshooter though
The court seems really congested in summer league. Is it because of the camera angles or because it's a game of one on one so more defenders just sit in the lane. Sure doesn't seem to be as much space as there is in normal NBA games. These games will be nothing like the normal games for PJ. How much time does Serge normally have when he spots up? At least a couple seconds. He won't have to beat anyone one on one in the NBA at OKC. He's got 3 Olympic guards on his team that will take all of the defensive focus. All he has to do his hit open jump shots, rebound and defend. He appears to have the ability to shoot and he's defended pretty well so far. There is no flow to the summer league games either. It's glorified pick up ball. It's just a different game. This is why Cole is struggling IMO. He's not a street baller. He sets picks, rebounds and dunks. That's not exciting to watch in a street ball setting.
it's the angle. I sat close for a preseason game in Tulsa and the floor looked tiny.
and, I guess it's also that they don't keep their spacing nearly as well as the big boys do.
@Thunder Tim They're super tall dudes in a small gym.
I know its just a tweak but i'm worried aobut PJ's ankle
@ElMexiThunder no worries. Worst case scenario he's out for summer league which.. well.. it's summer league.
@JimboSlice summer league has a point. these minutes are much more valuable for him then say, lazar hayward. he needs to stay fresh, and get as much of a feel as he can for the next level. example: reggie jackson having to play with no offseason this season. he clearly was not prepared for this stage.