ESPN logoTrueHoop Network
An ESPN Affiliate
Daily Thunder.com
  • Home
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Team
    • Salaries
    • Roster
    • Schedule & Events
  • Commenting Guidelines

Thursday Bolts – 7.5.12

by Royce Young on July 5, 2012 at 11:13 am 129 Comments

Darnell Mayberry on Hasheem Thabeet: “Adding Thabeet also helps the Thunder preserve precious salary cap space, most of which will go toward paying its young players. Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook already are locked into maximum-allowable contracts. Harden, Serge Ibaka and Eric Maynor are all now eligible for extensions to their rookie deals. What the Thunder is doing in bringing in Thabeet, 25, is taking a flyer on a one-time promising prospect without paying him much and hoping he can develop into the player he once was capable of being. If he does, the Thunder gets a steal. If not, the team will not have lost anything.”

An example from 2009 of how maybe Thabeet wasn’t getting the best coaching, from Ben Golliver of Blazersedge: “Thabeet’s performance was all the more impressive in light of his pregame warm-up routine which had courtside observers gawking at how misguided the drills he was participating in were. Thabeet was shooting 15 footers, 18 footers, turnaround 18 footers, 15 footers off the pick and roll, jab step 15 footers, 18 footers off the glass. It was a wonder he wasn’t shooting three pointers. Please remember he’s 7’3″. The only time he practiced any shots at the rim came after he was instructed to pump-fake from the top of the free throw circle and dribble twice down the key before making a layup. You think I’m exaggerating; I’m not. The average height of the Grizzlies assistant coaching staff (which includes Damon Stoudamire, Henry Bibby and Johnny Davis) might have something to do with this. Who knows. I wanted to intervene. Had it been Greg Oden, I probably wouldn’t have been able to resist.”

Also, check this quote from Lionel Hollins from 2009: “We’re teaching him how to play the game of basketball like you would a 7th or 8th grader.”

HoopsHype: “If the Thunder coaching staff can make a legit NBA center out of Hasheem Thabeet, they reach legend status to me.”

Darnell Mayberry with a great point about Thabeet: “But the first thing Thabeet could and should do to show that this time, this team, will be different than his previous three seasons is take his tall tail down to Orlando and join his new teammates for summer league. Rising fourth-year players generally don’t participate in summer league. But if anyone needs to swallow their pride it’s Thabeet. If I’m Thabeet, I’m volunteering to go and compete next week instead of having the coaching staff or front office “encourage” me to. It’s an easy way to make a good first impression and prove that the past is in the past. Prove that now he’s willing to work hard and do what it takes to blossom into the player many believed he had the potential to become.”

A look back at what people said about Thabeet.

Hasheem Thabeet is on Twitter at @HasheemTheDream.

John Reid of NOLA.com on the Hornets being the next Thunder: “The Hornets will need everything to click as rapidly as it did for the Oklahoma City Thunder, which drafted Russell Westbrook and Serge Ibaka in 2008 draft and they emerged quickly playing alongside Kevin Durant. Anthony Davis has the potential to develop into a franchise-changing player like Durant and guard Austin Rivers, who the Hornets selected with the No. 10 overall pick in last week’s draft, has the potential to excel like Westbrook. New Orleans will need more two more exceptional drafts to build around young talent. Also, they need players that are committed to playing in New Orleans and not elsewhere. There has to be patience to allow Coach Monty Williams to develop the young talent and General Manager Dell Demps must find the right pieces that must also include some veterans. The building blocks are already in place, but it also will take some luck to make it to the finals in five years as the Thunder achieved this season.”

KD on learning to lead for Team USA.

Steve Nash is now with the Lakers. The Western Conference just got a little tougher.

Categories
Bolts
Previous Post Wednesday Bolts – America! Edition
Next Post Finally, time for Cole Aldrich
122 comments
  Livefyre
  • Get Livefyre
  • FAQ
Sign in
+ Follow
Post comment
 
Link
Newest | Oldest
courtsense
courtsense 5pts

So the PaperClips sign professional shot jacka Jamal Crawford...thereby ensuring that they won't be doing anything in the playoffs.

Looks like the West is a 3-team race between OkC, San Antonio, and Lakers.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @courtsense Two of whom are getting older (in the bad sense) and one is getting older (in the good sense).

Sam Presti Trade Ninja
Sam Presti Trade Ninja 5pts

 @ou_sas Don't count out Denver and Minnesota. Denver were never really healthy last year, and were much better after the  JaVale Mcgee Trade. 

 

Minnesota gets a non Rookie Rubio for a full season

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

Royce Young: Finally, time for Cole Aldrich: http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/0… about 6 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1zmGp2YAN

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview Corrected link: http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/07/finally-time-for-cole-aldrich/

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-120705/nash-lakers

 

4. Are the Lakers now favored to win the West?

Adande: Nope. That's still the Oklahoma City Thunder. Nash upgrades the point guard position, but Russell Westbrook still wins that matchup ... in addition to the Thunder's greater depth down the lineup. But the Lakers will be able to win more than one game in the second round, which is all they managed to do over the past two seasons.

Harper: They're not favored to win the West. OKC is still the best team out West, as is. The Lakers have almost no bench and need to round out their roster. We also have no idea how this dynamic works, but I'm excited to see them figure it out.

Shelburne: No. I'd still put the Oklahoma City Thunder ahead of them because of their depth, athleticism and experience. Yes, experience. The Thunder have gone one step further in the playoffs each year and I think they'll grow from their loss in the Finals to Miami. That said, the Lakers just got very good very quickly.

Kamenetzky: Not until they acquire a little more depth and a shooter. A Kobe/Nash/Gasol/Bynum unit is intimidating, but the age and fragility of the group puts a premium on bench support. The Thunder are still improving and remain far more athletic, but the Lakers closed the gap considerably. If they dot I's and cross T's, it's very tight up top.

Windhorst: No. It's still the Thunder. They have shown great improvement after learning their lessons over the past few years. All the teams out West are playing catch-up; that's what this move is all about.

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-120705/nash-lakers

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview I like it. Not bad analysis across the board from them, though I'd add that our defensive frontcourt matches up better than almost everyone in the league against the Lakers'. That's the big difference. It's never been about what Kobe can/can't do, it's always been about our ability to stop Gasol and Bynum going off on us without drawing extra defenders.

supreethm92
supreethm92 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Steve Nash is now with the Lakers. Russell Westbrook is still going to destroy the Lakers' point guards

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

So, the Lakers have Nash. So, we're going to put Thabo on Nash, Russ on Kobe in ball-denial mode, Perk on Bynum, and Serge on Gasol. Hide KD on MWP like normal. Is that really so bad from a defensive point of view?

supreethm92
supreethm92 5pts

 @ou_sas definitely gonna have Thabo on Kobe because of his wingspan. The long arms work better on Kobe then the super ball-denial. Kobe can get the ball no matter how hard you try

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @supreethm92 I could see us switching Thabo and Russ on defensive assignments depending on who's hurting us more. Still, the Lakers haven't changed their identities enough for us not to be Laker-killers anymore.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

How can one not be disconcerted by the activity of the champs in comparison to our relative nothingnes

 

Alex Kennedy: A return to Boston isn't out of the question for Ray Allen, but sources believe he's leaning toward Miami. He's meeting with the Heat today. Twitter

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview If Presti manages to sign Harden/Ibaka/Maynor to long term contracts, that's not doing nothing, that's doing something fantastic.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @ou_sas Hes not signing both Ibaka and Harden.  No way

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview I'm not saying that it's likely to be done that he signs both... but if any GM in the league _could_ get it done, it's Presti.

 

And again, that's my best case scenario at this point.

Shake Down the Thunder
Shake Down the Thunder 5pts

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview The Thunder are on the rise because they are so young and still developing/ reaching their primes. The Heat are so damn old they need to keep adding new veterans each year to keep the status quo.

supreethm92
supreethm92 5pts

 @Shake Down the Thunder  @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview their core players aren't old enough for it to matter. They don't have any older players on long, big contracts. It's just a lot easier to underpay older guys who are desperate for a ring before they check out of the NBA for good instead of younger guys who still think they deserve more and have plenty of time to think about playing for a championship team

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Shake Down the Thunder The heat are old? 

Shake Down the Thunder
Shake Down the Thunder 5pts

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview I meant their supporting cast

Prye05
Prye05 5pts

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview  @Shake Down the Thunder The Heat's big 3 are at prime age... they only have a few young players and don't have lots of draft picks so they do rely on a lot of veterans to succeed. They're also more money capped at this point than what the Thunder are (The big 3 keep costing more and more money every year).

bigOkc
bigOkc 5pts

 @K-Dagger Daniel Plainview  @Shake Down the Thunder yes

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

So, basically, we're laughing at Houston and Dallas right now, because Dwill and Kyle Lowry chose to go/stay East, right?

criznazy53
criznazy53 5pts

 @ou_sas i dunno if we should be laughing too much. Lakers just got Nash.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @criznazy53  @ou_sas Lakeshow is done.  They couldnt do it with teh Zen master theyre not doing it with anyone else.  Cant wait to see how Kobs endures and 80 game season

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @criznazy53 Yeah, not too happy about that.

 

Oh, and noted Thunder thorn-in-their-side JET has also gone east.

Shake Down the Thunder
Shake Down the Thunder 5pts

 @ou_sas  @criznazy53 Now how do we get Barea to the East too?

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts

aha on that mayberry flashback article "Leah" actually posted on there. She just really likes Tanzania!

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts

ps raptors get kyle lowry. So no dragic or lowry for HOU

Shake Down the Thunder
Shake Down the Thunder 5pts

 @persiansooner13 but they might get Lin

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Shake Down the Thunder  @Daniel OBoymuzik  @persiansooner13 Hey Houston, I hear Derrick Fisher is available! 

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 @Shake Down the Thunder  @Daniel OBoymuzik  @persiansooner13 Well, now that I think about it, I read they were going to buy him out IF they needed the cap space to complete a blockbuster. That was like... 3 days ago when people thought the Hawks were gunning for CP3 and Dwight.

 

So nevermind.

Shake Down the Thunder
Shake Down the Thunder 5pts

 @Daniel OBoymuzik  @persiansooner13 For the Knicks*

Shake Down the Thunder
Shake Down the Thunder 5pts

 @Daniel OBoymuzik  @persiansooner13 I've heard Felton might be a possibility

areayewhy
areayewhy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @Daniel OBoymuzik  @Shake Down the Thunder  @persiansooner13 It'd be funny if houston signed arron brooks so both of them would return to the team they were at before they were traded.

Shake Down the Thunder
Shake Down the Thunder 5pts

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @Daniel OBoymuzik  @persiansooner13  Have you read somewhere that the Hawks plan on buying him out?

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 @Daniel OBoymuzik  @Shake Down the Thunder  @persiansooner13 I bet they sign Devin Harris once he gets bought out.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Shake Down the Thunder  @persiansooner13 Knicks are most likely going to match now that they lost out on Nash and Kidd

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Lol i hope Royce White plays point for houston

S4TISF4CTION
S4TISF4CTION 5pts

Skip should play in the celebrity game this year. 

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts

Doug Gottleib is easily my least favorite person on ESPN, maybe all media. Dislike him more than skip

bigOkc
bigOkc 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @persiansooner13 If you think you dislike him now, it's not even close to what you would feel if you were a Cowboy fan when he played. 

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts

"Mike Indiana: How did your mediocre basketball career prepare you for a mediocre broadcasting career? Doug Gottlieb: (4:04 PM ET ) So your mediocre life can prepare you for a mediocre afterlife...and by the way, which one of us works for ESPN... hey and next time...when I you say 30 minutes or less....get here on time with my pizza. John (Notre Dame): Doug, I lost my credit card, where were you last night? SportsNation Doug Gottlieb: (4:27 PM ET ) Ask your mom. Johns Mom (Notre Dame): GOTTLIEB I KNOW YOU STOLE MY SON'S CREDIT CARD! SportsNation Doug Gottlieb: (4:34 PM ET ) Ten years ago I made a mistake...and payed for it...18 years ago YOU WERE your parents mistake and they are still paying for it." haha (apparently he charged thousands on his roommates credit card in college, thats what they were joking about)

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts

@diddoff yes gottlIEB hate stems from that jim mora thing, but i would hear him all the time on espn radio in the car filling in for people and he is just so obnoxious, and i tend to disagree with him a lot, but not in a skip passionate kind of way but in a roll my eyes, how does this guy get a job kind of way. And his voice is very annoying

diddoff
diddoff 5pts

 @persiansooner13 Why y'all misspelling his name? Because Darnell did it in his article?

Barry Amenema
Barry Amenema 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @diddoff  @persiansooner13 German orthography 101:

ie = ee

ei = i

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 @persiansooner13 Why?

This comment has been deleted

ReignOfSerge
ReignOfSerge 5pts

 @SergeIblocka

 I think he'd make a great replacement for Lazar. And cheaper.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @SergeIblocka  i thought he was playing summer league?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

Clippers sign Billups and Jamal Crawford 

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Daniel OBoymuzik i thought that said they signed joey crawford

diddoff
diddoff 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 8 Like

 @f5alcon  @Daniel OBoymuzik His contract with Miami was running out?

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @diddoff  @Daniel OBoymuzik they want to stay competitive with the lakers and golden boy steve nash

Back to Top

Headlines

  • VP Biden called Durant to thank him for donation
  • KD named All-NBA first team, Westbrook second team
  • Perk donates $25,000 to help build shelters in schools
  • Report: Mo Cheeks to interview with the Pistons
  • Thunder land the 12th pick in the 2013 draft
  • Thunder donate $1 million to aid with disaster relief
  • Kevin Durant donates $1 million to disaster relief
Daily Thunder
  • Home
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact

Copyright © 2008-2012 DailyThunder.com
Designed by iThemes Creative & Hosted by Site5