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Wednesday Bolts – 7.25.12

by Royce Young on July 25, 2012 at 8:00 am 140 Comments

Elena Bergeron of ESPN.com on Team USA’s best lineups: “[USA Basketball director Jerry] Colangelo might consider adding to his summer reading list “NBA Chemistry: Positive and Negative Synergies in Basketball,” in which researchers from NYU-Polytechnic Institute analyzed plus/minus ratings to determine optimal combinations of skill sets. One of their findings: Quality offensive rebounders often go to waste when teamed with efficient scorers, as good shooters are less likely to miss; it’s better to pair scorers with defensive boarders. That would mean playing Love, Team USA’s top defensive rebounder in 2011-12, with higher-percentage shooters like James and Paul, and pairing Chandler, its best offensive rebounder, with less efficient shooters like Russell Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony.”

Henry Abbott of TrueHoop on flopping: “At a minimum, referees ought to enforce a forgotten part of the existing NBA rule book. “To be unsportsmanlike is to act in a manner unbecoming to the image of professional basketball,” it reads, in a section discussing unsportsmanlike play. “It consists of acts of deceit, disrespect of officials and profanity. The penalty for such action is a technical foul. Repeated acts shall result in expulsion from the game and a minimum fine of $1000.” “Deceit” is the issue in flopping, and the very first example in this list of unsportsmanlike conduct. The penalty is a technical. That’s a start.”

Hopefully kind of a new angle on the Dream Team conversation.

Neil Paine of ESPN.com with a smarter take on it: “Regardless of international competition improving, the 1992 Dream Team is still the United States’ best-ever Olympic roster, especially when factoring in that the NBA talent level in ’92 was essentially the same as it is today.”

All Access with Team USA.

OKC has two games nominated for NBA.com’s Game of the Year.

Chris Sheridan of Sheridan Hoops: “The Americans will not play another game until Sunday, when France will be the opponent in a game that will count. Between now and then they will pack up for London, get their rain gear back out, march in the opening ceremony and squeeze in as much practice time as possible. They learned in Barcelona that the Argentines (who they play a week from next Monday) are a team that will never quit, and this Spanish team, with Ibaka, has a height advantage that will only be a factor if Spain can feed the ball to those bigs deep in the low post. But again, those bigs have to cover a lot of unfamiliar ground on the other end of the court. And on nights when the Americans are shooting the ball well, they are virtually unbeatable.”

Nick Collison just gets better and better.

Mike Guardabascio of Gazettes.com on Westbrook: “But Westbrook has chosen to represent Long Beach along with his country, and, truth be told, it’s easy to understand why the Oklahoma City Thunder star would identify with the city. After all, there’s no way Long Beach should boast a list of Olympians that outpaces metropolises like Los Angeles and New York—and there’s no way that Russell Westbrook should be an NBA star and an Olympian.”

Greg Bishop of the NY Times on KD: “Because Durant is often guarded by small forwards or power forwards; and because few, if any, of those players can match his explosiveness and athleticism in the international game; and because the 3-point line is an easier target internationally, the nature of international basketball and Durant’s skills have combined for a barrage of 3-point baskets. This, Coach Mike Krzyzewski noted this week, was the way Durant played in Turkey when he won most valuable player honors and the United States won the world championships in 2010.”

The Thunder Girls are having open auditions this Saturday. Thinking about trying out.

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Tricia Status
Tricia Status 5pts

Won't be on DT for a week. My job is making me take vacation le sigh

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @Tricia_status See ya in a week!

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Tricia_status It's okay, we'll take notes and fill you in on what you've missed.

Tricia Status
Tricia Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@ou_sas Y'all gotta make very vivid comments about the basketball games. I will get emails

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tricia_status  @ou_sas Well, I hope you're prepared for multiple posts of some variation of RUSS!!!! or BEARD!!!! or KD!!!! because that's how our gamethreads tend to roll. I'll see if we can't spice it up with some verbs in there though. ;)

Crow
Crow 5pts

Looking at offensive RAPM (adjusted +/-) player pairs and trios the Heat's best was more than twice as good on this estimate as the Thunder's best. On defensive RAPM the best one had Collison not Perkins. On best over lineup MIA< LAK, BOS had multiple top 20 lineups. OKC was just outside the top 20 and again it was with Collison not Perkins.

Crow
Crow 5pts

thunder stars are apparently not as synergistic or compatible together as the miami stars

Crow
Crow 5pts

"pair scorers with defensive boarders?"

 

do the Thunder do this? Clank,not strongly.

 

 

"offensive rebounders often go to waste when teamed with efficient scorers"

 

Harden-Collison is good but not for this reason

 

 

guys who shoot the 3 well and pass well are very helpful?

 

harden does not quite meet the assist standard but he is close

Durant and Westbrook miss for opposite reasons

Crow
Crow 5pts

Colangelo is convinced he is smarter than most NBA managers or experts and he probably is given his track record but his disregard for advanced stats may not be so wise

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

is fran going to be calling all the Team USA olympic games...please tell me no

diddoff
diddoff 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoymuzik I believe he tweeted last night that Doug Collins and Hubie take over now.

OBoy
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 @diddoff REALLY???? awesome

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @diddoff he made one of the best calls i've ever heard this year when describing Roddy Beaubois air balls in a game vs us

 

something along the lines of

 

"now let me tell you something this guy beaubois has had 6 or 7 shots this game that haven't got close to the rim"

 

and went on and on describing how terrible he was in a polite way, i was dying laughing

diddoff
diddoff 5pts

 @OBoymuzik I'm a little down with Hubie since he totally messed up our blowout against the Celtics. I think he hates us.

OBoy
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 @diddoff i want us to amnesty grant long...Brian Davis and Hubie duo would be better than the 92 dream team

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @OBoymuzik heard he got a dual citizenship passport 

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 Kirilenko and the Timberwolves. Sigh. Is it just me or do the Timberwolves involve 50% of the entire league in trade discussions, signings or trades? Kahn may not have the best track record, but the dude is super active.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct I doubt Pancakes will ever watch a T-Wolves game now with all the whiteys on the team!

jder03
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 @Jax Raging Bile Duct TWolves trying to obtain an All-White basketball team. Barea, Budinger, Hummel, Kirilenko, Love, Pekovic, Ridnour, Rubio, Shved, Stiemsma. All they need to do is trade Derrick Williams for Ryan Anderson and all of their remaining picks plus Cunningham and Lee for JJ Redick and the team can be complete.

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

Rubio isn't really white. He's from Spain which would make him hispanic. JJ Barea is Puerto Rican. Maybe Kahn should package them for Dragic.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @jder03 how many of those will start? it could be all 5

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @jder03 There are some teams that gather white players. It may be for marketing reasons (who does makes it seem that this is pretty important) or it may be worship of the 80s Celtics. Since 1990 only 2 title winners have started 2 white players, the Bulls for 2 of their 6 titles. Recent history is not on Kahn's side on this.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @f5alcon though he probably would say it is based on intelligence, effort, teamwork, fundamerntals, etc. etc.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @f5alcon it is either consciously or unconsciously purposeful

f5alcon
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 @Crow  Is he doing it purposefully or are white guys the only ones willing to live in the cold?

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @jder03 few title winners in recent times have had even 1 white starter and most have none

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @jder03 at least for their last title

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @jder03 80s Celtics had 3 white starters

diddoff
diddoff 5pts

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct They just traded away the black Wes Johnson to make room for the white Andrei Kirilenko.

They could have given away the white Luke Ridnour, but no...

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @diddoff  @Jax Raging Bile Duct Luke Ridnour is actually better at basketball than Wes in almost every way. Poor Wes....

MissYouCole
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 @Jax Raging Bile Duct He's active the way an 8 year old is active though.  New toys every day but they just end up broken :(

courtsense
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All this fawning over the 92 Dream Team is kinda making me sick. It was 20 years ago...enough already. 

courtsense
courtsense 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Just to be clear here, it's not the Year 1992 that I have the problem with - '92 was in some ways the single most amazing and important year of my life.

Rather, it's the constant Jordan-this, Magic-that, Bird-this, Barkley- that crap that I'm tired of.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 @courtsense And 1992 also gave us the show that started reality TV (debatable, but it's got as great a claim to the modern day reality tv show).

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSYBRxr04BM

Barry Amenema
Barry Amenema 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct Classic 1992 TV (it always, ALWAYS comes back to Seinfeld) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWOf3A-_KQ

 

ThunderChick2010
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 @Barry Amenema  @Jax Raging Bile Duct

I think Jerry loaned that shirt to Russ once.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @courtsense

Or ass an alternative to Jax' post:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpztvKOKs9Y

 

courtsense
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Love it...I think I mentioned before, I was at the Grammys in '86 when Whitney had her coming out party in THAT red evening gown. Truly unforgettable...

MissYouCole
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 @courtsense In other news, I am 20 (almost)

ThunderChick2010
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 @DavidMN  @courtsense

Same birthday as FREE_COLE, right?  :)

MissYouCole
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 @ThunderChick2010  @courtsense gahhh y'all are campaigning for it almost as hard as I did Cole hahaha. Fear not people, your never silent stalker/poster will be back!

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 @courtsense And some things never change. Also new in 1992...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8txDV2tYtJk

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 @courtsense I will do my part to find other cool things from 1992. Maybe it'll make you feel better. I'll go ahead and start with the best thing possible from 1992. I know everything else will be downhill from there, but if you start somewhere, you might as well start from the top, right?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reTx5sqvVJ4

persiansooner
persiansooner 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @courtsense WHO MAKES YOU SICKER THE 92 TEAM OR THE 2012 TEAM?! HUH?! HUHH!?!??!

Tricia Status
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@persiansooner13

MissYouCole
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 @persiansooner13 COULD KENTUCKY BEAT THE 92 TEAM

 EatSleepThunder
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 @DavidMN  @persiansooner13 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1266395-team-usa-vs-miami-heat im going with the heat in this one

Barry Amenema
Barry Amenema 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DavidMN  the '85 bears could, all loaded up in a bus...with Ditka driving

OBoy
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Hollis Thompson Q&A and story http://www.nba.com/thunder/summer_thompson_120725.html

diddoff
diddoff 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OBoymuzik ...and the video ... an interview every random dude from the street could've given

OBoy
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ps i like how all these new players come in wearing KDs

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