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Wednesday Bolts – America! Edition

by Royce Young on July 4, 2012 at 8:14 am 673 Comments

Rob Mahoney for the NY Times on Team USA: “That is where Colangelo and Krzyzewski should opt for Harden’s experience in navigating an offense with two of the most ball-dominant scorers in the N.B.A. with the Oklahoma City Thunder. Harden has a seemingly innate understanding of how to balance and play off superstar-caliber players, and while Gordon did an admirable job with Team USA in 2010, he may be nudged out by a highly similar — though slightly superior — player.”

Interesting exchange on Twitter last night as Nate Jones tweeted something about Eric Gordon getting a max deal and what that would mean for James Harden on the market. KD tweeted back: “he not hittin the market.”

Sam Presti yesterday on free agents: “As we’ve gone through the free-agent process, we’ve had several conversations about different players,” Presti said. “We’re looking at evaluating all of our options. I won’t comment specifically on whom we’re having conversations with, but we are looking at different ways to improve the team. … But we’ve talked to several different guys. A part of free agency is constantly evaluating your team and making a lot of phone calls.”

Darnell Mayberry on Scott Brooks: “In Brooks, going back to that very first night in New Orleans, players see a coach they can identify with, a man who has walked in their shoes and tasted the success as a player they are now striving to achieve. They respect Brooks and, more importantly, respond to him and his ways. Brooks is the biggest “player’s coach” you’ll find. By trusting them, he’s gotten the most out of their abilities. It’s a recipe that has worked wonderfully over the past three-plus seasons, as Brooks has compiled a 174-125 record. In his three full seasons, Brooks has led the Thunder to 152 victories, the third most in the NBA over that span.”

Deron Williams is staying in Brooklyn, which has major ramifications on the Western Conference.

Micky Arison on owning an NBA team:  “This is a hobby of passion, it’s not a business.”

More Arison: “The reality is we’re not a big market team,” Arison told CNBC. “Minnesota is a larger market than Miami. Where we find ourselves struggling is our local TV revenue is smaller than big markets and despite sellouts we’re only seventh or eighth in gate revenues. Obviously our payrolls are up and our revenues are not because of the limitations of our market.”

Russell Westbrook he’d like to try the high jump.

Dennis Velasco of TBJ with some late draft grades: “This could end up being a great pick for the Thunder. During the beginning of Jones’ freshman year, he was actually projected to be the first overall selection in many mocks. He has that much talent. However, there was a perceived dip in skill this season for Jones, who actually played out of position most of the season. It’s difficult to project what Jones will do with the Thunder as it will be dependent on where they play him. Since Kevin Durant will man the three, you’d have to assume that Jones will play the four, which could mean the eventuality of Serge Ibaka being let go when he becomes a free agent after next season. That would be a mistake, but Jones is so talented that it would be a mistake not to start him. Time will tell, but this is easily a low risk-high reward pick at the end of the first round. It’s easy to love this pick, value-wise.”

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OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Dang our bench keeps getting better and better.  Oh yea Baby!  Cant Wait!

MylesMohler
MylesMohler 5pts

 @OkcBaby I would have hit myself had I though our bench could have gotten better after this year, sans Maynor.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

Apparently, the justification for signing HT

 

http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/07/02/why-the-thunder-could-take-a-chance-on-thabeet/

bzzt
bzzt 5pts

First off, let me state that I like Perk and think he's was crucial in several ways to the team arriving at this point (albeit most of the effect off the court), and serves a vital role vs. the Howards and Bynums of the world.  I'm under no illusions that Thabeet's signing was anything but an insurance/long-shot potential play.

 

But, out of curiosity I decided to roll up a comparison between Perk's Thunder career (2170 mins) and Thabeet's career (1400 mins):

 

Perk Thabeet

Off Rat 96 107

Def Rat 103 105

PPP (off) .81 .91

PPP (def) .79 .93

OReb % 8.9 10.4

DReb % 20.1 19.9

Blk % 2.9 6.3

TO R 23.2 20.9

Ast R 14.5 4.5

Usg 10.9 10.3

TS% .530 .569

WS/48 .054 .091

 

For better or worse, it was a lot closer than I expected.

 

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @bzzt Thabeet also fouls a lot.

jstew82
jstew82 5pts

 @bzzt Just remember, most of Thabeet's minutes came against scrubs...

bzzt
bzzt 5pts

 @justin_mia And in case I wasn't clear at the start, I'm a Perk fan, and honestly am not trying to make a case for Thabeet to start or anything.

 

I was just curious.  Perk has the undisputed edge in all those things that Brooks loves that don't show up in boxscores.  (presumably its scowliness).

bzzt
bzzt 5pts

 @justin_mia Yeah, that's reflected in the PPP(def).  Perk averaged ~9.3 possessions per game where he was the man defender (so -1.3 ppg).  Thabeet's higher offensive rebounding though (.6 pos/27 mins and increased efficiency (~.7 pts/27 mins) offset it pretty closely.

 

Thabeet does foul alot (5.0/27 mins vs. 3.0/27 mins for Perk), but that's largely already baked into the PPP(def).

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @bzzt Perkins is a far better man defender.  In another universe.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

Darnells story says the deal is believed to be for the league min of 880k first year

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

best part of this is I now have a reason to follow @HasheemTheDream on twitter

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @HasheemTheDream i will never follow that bum

SilenceTheLambs
SilenceTheLambs 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Lost Ones  @OBoymuzik Even after he eventually replaces KD as our franchise player?

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @AllDae  @OBoymuzik http://sandwichman.kritti.net/GIFZ/weebay.gif

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @AllDae  @Lost Ones yeah lost ones u better jump on the hasheem bandwagon now

shiki
shiki 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 KD is not the tallest thunder player now

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @shiki I think Pj3s taller than him anyway.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @shiki I wish the would remeasure him and fix it on ESPN.  Everyone in teh league knows hes 6'11", save some doofus commentaters who cant figure it out

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Daniel Plainview  @shiki Height is a really odd topic in the nba.  You know Dwight is actually shorter than Chris Bosh but if you said that no one would acknowledge it

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Daniel Plainview  @shiki or just as tall.  Most would say Dwight is taller

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

So Tha Dream is coming to our team. 

 

#ohnoes 

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Oh and hope everyone is having a great 4th! Summer league is almost here finally

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

 @FREE_COLE Wonder if Tha-Beast can quickly sign on Wednesday and then play a couple summer league games.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Daniel Hawaii But Cole :(

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

Peter Vecsey: Mullens. Aldrich. Perkins. Thabeet. Presti should not be allowed to make decisions regarding centers 4 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1ziQJpRF6

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @Daniel Plainview peter vecsey? oh

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

 @Daniel Plainview Hahaha!!!  Krstic might've been his best center signing.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Daniel Hawaii  @Daniel Plainview Perkins was a good signing, Brooks just doesn't control minutes well enough to get max value out of it

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

Excited for the Cole/Hasheem battles in practice.  Who is the Bill Russell and who is the Wilt in that battle?

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @FREE_COLE  thabeet might work cole im scared

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones There is literally zero evidence to that effect. And knowing how much Brooks values trust/knowing his players, I highly doubt thabeet jumps cole unless he is very clearly better, which is a good thing then isn't it?

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Lost Ones Dunno that he had the chance.  I always come back to this, but Brooks is a george karl guy. Karl didn't play Faried until he absolutely was forced to by injuries and faried stepping up.  Brooks had a previous starter on a championship team or cole.  That's gonna be an easy decision for someone of his philosophy

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @FREE_COLE you dont think cole was beating nazr in practice?

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Lost Ones Yeah that's what my second part was about.  If thabeet is beating him, chances are he'll see minutes which means the better player is playing. 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @FREE_COLE i never said thabeet would jump cole, i said thabeet would work him in practice.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Daniel Hawaii I think Cole could average 1 blk/10 min

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Daniel Hawaii I will still have PJ3 to fawn over.  And Cole leg kicks 

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts

Not for you, Cole-lover. =)

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Welcome thabeet...stay away daniel orton

gnaygg
gnaygg 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Hopefully he can resurrect his career, like Joel Przybilla

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

how much will thabeet cost us? and plus frontload the contract.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Goodbye sweet Nazr.

Daniel Hawaii
Daniel Hawaii 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Hello, Hasheem the Dream.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

There is 1 highlight to signing Thabeet...his girlfriend is hysterical

 

https://twitter.com/LoveQueenBee/statuses/190300725732061184

courtsense
courtsense 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Hashish Thabeet now becomes 1/3 of the answer to this future NBA trivia question:

 

"Name 2 knuckleheads and a Hall of Famer who changed NBA teams July 4, 2012."

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @courtsense beastly and nash

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I can't wait to see our new big three of Reggie, Lazar, and Thabeet

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

Mike Fisher: Hasheem Thabeet signing w OKC. SONOFABITCH! (oh, wait. calm down. that's fine.) #mavs 3 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1ziNBgr99

shiki
shiki 5pts

Cole or THABEET,who is a better player now?

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @shiki Cole

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @shiki Cole

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