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Friday Bolts – 8.11.12

by Royce Young on August 10, 2012 at 9:33 am 148 Comments

Brian Kamenetzky of ESPN LA on where things stand now: “If the Lakers were on the cusp of contention in the Western Conference after the Nash deal — very competitive but still a tick below Miami and Oklahoma City — they’re now at worst in the center (no pun intended) of the conversation and at best could lead it. Assuming Howard recovers well from the back surgery from which he’s currently rehabbing — and I don’t think the Lakers would have pulled the trigger without doing their due diligence — the Lakers have added a top-five player and the most dominant defensive force in the NBA to a lineup already including Nash, Gasol and, of course, Kobe Bryant.”

Arash Markazi of ESPN LA: “And for those of you in Oklahoma City, the Lakers are not looking past Kevin Durant and the Thunder. Oklahoma City’s five-game dismantling of the Lakers in the playoffs this season on the heels of their being swept out of the playoffs by the Dallas Mavericks last year was the wake-up call this team needed to realize it could not continue and contend maintaining the status quo. When Oklahoma City eliminated the Lakers from the playoffs in May, Bryant smiled when he was asked about the Lakers’ future. Despite a second straight ouster in the second round and adjusting to a new locker room without two of his closest confidants in Odom and Fisher, Bryant wasn’t ready to quietly ride off into the sunset.”

John Hollinger of ESPN.com: “Holy hell, it’s good to be the Lakers. After somehow parlaying a pile of backyard trash into Steve Nash, they now have converted the very good Andrew Bynum into the absolutely dominant Dwight Howard. As reported, they somehow didn’t have to give up Gasol, or even take back any bad contracts. But I’m sure they’re crying a river over the 2017 first-round pick they had to give up. You’ll excuse the Spurs and Thunder for feeling like they’re playing a game that’s rigged against them.”

Bill Simmons: “Remember when everyone was saying, “A year from now, OKC will just amnesty Perkins so they can pay Ibaka and Harden?” Not so fast! Getting rid of Howard’s Personal Kryptonite when Howard is suddenly playing for your biggest conference rival isn’t the best career move. (And you thought Miami’s shift to small ball had rendered the Perkins Era obsolete … )”

Tom Ziller of SB Nation: “He didn’t create the toxic situation in which Howard basically had to be traded by the February deadline, but this result is pretty near the bottom of the barrel. More than anything, it’s proof that it’s better to trade your stars as soon as it becomes apparent that they will eventually need to be traded. I say we call it the O’Connor Theory, in honor of the Jazz’s Kevin O’Connor, who brilliantly if dangerously jettisoned Deron Williams as soon as it became apparent that the point guard would at the very least flirt with big markets when free agency arrived. The Jazz got an awesome package for Williams, including actual lottery picks and a brilliant prospect in Derrick Favors.”

Everyone is ripping on Rob Hennigan, but according to one writer, this wasn’t his trade.

Kelly Dwyer of BDL: “You’re just fine to judge Dwight Howard from afar. I don’t know how you or I or any other fan is supposed to handle the Los Angeles Lakers right now. They did what was right. They acquired, by far, the best player in this deal. They turned Kwame Brown (and, er, an eventual All-Star center), a mid-lottery draft pick in the crummy 2005 draft, and Lamar Odom’s 2011-12 “season” into Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard, and Steve Nash. The team that is a year removed from firing most of its scouting department in a money-saving maneuver is now a healthy season and sound bit of coaching away from threatening 70 wins in an NBA season. You’re OK to think this isn’t fair.”

First Lakers-Thunder game is Dec. 7 on a Friday night in OKC. That should be fun.

Chris Mannix of SI.com: “Howard-to-Lakers pretty much removes any possibility of the Thunder amnestying Kendrick Perkins to free up some cash. Need him now.”

Small stupid story: A friend of mine writes “Russ” on all of his golf balls. Why? Because when it does something good he says, “Yeah Russ!” but when it does something bad he says, “Freaking stupid Russ!” I thought that was pretty appropriate.

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Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/08/how-does-dwight-howard-to-the-lakers-impact-the-thunder/

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

ew 21 point quarter. 

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts

Lat Williams is in advanced talks with German champion Brose Baskets Bamberg. (Pleiss' former club)

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @diddoff Wish we could have kept Lat.  But iam intrigued by our Draft pick

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts

 @OkcBaby They've had an interesting history with athletic bigs. The last two arrived as scrubs and left for Olympicos and Real Madrid after one season.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @diddoff Boooooooooooooooooooooooooo

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Serge is a beast. 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @C-Wil i concur

ThunderCityUsa
ThunderCityUsa 5pts

what time does the usa/argentina game start?

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts

 @ThunderCityUsa 4:00 EST

ThunderCityUsa
ThunderCityUsa 5pts

@novelisticbee0 thanks for the info.

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts

Well, let's just go on and give LA the championship. OBVIOUSLY we don't need a season this year since nobody stands a chance against them. :)

 

In other news, I'm kind of hoping to see Serge on the floor during this game. Don't know if it'll happen though.

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

LETS GO COMMIES!! 

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

My Preseason ranking

1.OKC

2. LA

3. Miami

ThunderCityUsa
ThunderCityUsa 5pts

do people really think Howard would leave LA after one year? personally I don't think so

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @ThunderCityUsa ditto

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @ThunderCityUsa nah

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Well this reaffirms my question about Perk.  Dang we got to keep him

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

OMFG LA!  So glad Phil Jackson is not there.  Seems like Orlando is getting the Wood.  

ThunderCityUsa
ThunderCityUsa 5pts

watch as much as I like that of and perk there is no such thing as a kobe stopper or a Howard stopper just like there is no more such thing as a Durant or LeBron stopper at the end of the day they're superstars and they're gonna get their so I don't know why some people make it seem like perk and thanks are gonna hold the Lakers would best players to a 0 points in a series

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderCityUsa That is what lazar is for, kick kobe in the junk and he scores 0 points

ThunderCityUsa
ThunderCityUsa 5pts

*thabo and same goes for the Lakers ad they can't hold down Durant or Westbrook

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

If anyone in LA and needs a hobby start delivering a dozen donuts to MWPs house everyday please...I hope that guy is so out of shape when the season starts

SeanzieCrews
SeanzieCrews 5pts

 @OBoymuzik LakersNation's twitter feed yesterday suggested that MWP is in better shape than the last two seasons..

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SeanzieCrews There's still time!

SeanzieCrews
SeanzieCrews 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Everybody is talking about the Lakers this, and Lakers that. I like what Denver did in this trade, Iggy can bring a lot to that team defensively and effort-wise. I'm still not worried in a 7 game series vs. them, but they could upset some teams out West.

Jokazc
Jokazc 5pts

 @SeanzieCrews I think 76ers most improved after trade!

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jokazc  @SeanzieCrews no way. Bynum will be gone after this year, and if he's not Philly fans will hate him anyway

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JimboSlice  @Jokazc  @SeanzieCrews i think it may be a joke-azc

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SeanzieCrews If Ty Lawson turns into an all star and javale continues to improve ill be scared of them

MD4Okc
MD4Okc 5pts

Um.....There is still a game today, right?

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MD4Okc At this point I feel like I'm watching the same game on syndication.

MD4Okc
MD4Okc 5pts

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct I'd rather talk about this than all this Lakers speculating

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

What would it take to get Dejuan Blair? 

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Thabo might do it. He's a Spurs type player and they love their wing defenders.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @OBoymuzik cap room that we don't have

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Ibaka & fillers?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @cleandoe Um no lol..he's not Anthony Davis 

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @cleandoe how is Fish ranked ahead of anybody on that list, much less ranked highly on it?

 

But I'd be down to dump Lazar if we signed nobody at all. However, I'd take a guy like Jermaine O'Neal for vet min (and give back Thabeet and Orton), Shawne Williams and Michael Redd both would likely be better than Cook at the 3 pt specialist role.

 

Presti seems fully committed to youth and development though, even if it means taking on players who suck and will suck for the foreseeable future just because they're young, cheap, and have "potential"

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @JimboSlice  @cleandoe Anybody on here interest you?

http://hoopshype.com/free_agent_rankings.htm

 

I think our best chance is dumping lazar and signing someone

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @cleandoe technically we could go cook+maynor for wright, which is a little more of a reasonable swap, but it would take some convincing to get the sixers to take back any salary in that scenario. 

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @cleandoe that too lol

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @JimboSlice  @cleandoe And they just got bynum so why would they want perk

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @cleandoe I have hope for Thompson but with Brooks' history don't see it happening. That said, salary-wise, a Hawes, Wright, Ivey for Perk, Cook, Maynor trade works and gives us a slight upgrade at starting center as well while cutting about 2 mil from the starting center spot yearly and providing a huge upgrade at the 3 pt specialist slot. Only thing is Hawes and Ivey were just signed to deals with the sixers, so it's extremely unlikely they turn around and trade them just to get a better backup pg and make two other lateral/ backward moves.

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik Ibaka historically has been even worse against Dwight. Thabeet may be equal to Cole on Dwight, but the pace at which he processes the game is so incredibly slow, I worry that he would be a far worse choice as well. Cole and Maynor are probably the only "trade bait" we have (that's some pretty crappy trade bait), but if we let Cole go, it's going to have to be for an upgrade at his position with decent size as well.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @cleandoe  @JimboSlice I'd be surprised if he gets minutes this year

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @JimboSlice That's why I hope Hollis turns good

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @JimboSlice  @cleandoe I see what you're saying..I wasn't talking specifically about matching up with the lakers but I think we need to get an upgrade at one of our role players now that the west has gotten better...any decent 3pt specialists we could get for cheap? Cook sucks at it

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @JimboSlice  @OBoymuzik For some reason I don't think Cole will help much. We got Thabeet man. That guy went No. 2 in the draft ;D We could try Ibaka at the 5. No need to roam out the paint so can still block, but is tall, strong & athletic enough to slow Dwight down.

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik as much as I like Blair, that doesn't sound like the smartest option. Essentially, he's Nick Collison. We're already extremely limited at the center position, and Nick Collison has performed very poorly defensively against Dwight. Letting go of our only really big guy who could potentially play other than Perk and getting an undersized (albeit very solid) big might help us with the rest of the league, but could be disastrous against the Lakers.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @JimboSlice  @cleandoe Then let's do it..I would much rather he be our 4th/5th big this season instead of cole or thabeet

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @OBoymuzik I see. I would love to do it for Cole & Cook. If Hollis looks good at camp

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @OBoymuzik  @cleandoe yeah he's a good player but just doesnt have a place on their roster. it wouldn't take much at all to pry him away i dont think

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @cleandoe They've been trying to trade him all summer

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @OBoymuzik Obviously fillers from them to lol

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @OBoymuzik But why would they want to trade him

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @cleandoe And has no knees

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