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Tuesday Bolts – 8.14.12

by Royce Young on August 14, 2012 at 10:48 am 65 Comments

Eric Freeman of BDL on what a gold does for KD: “When a player leads the NBA in scoring for three consecutive seasons, it’s difficult to imagine that his reputation as a producer of points could actually improve. However, Durant was so fantastic in his eight games — breaking the U.S. record for points in an Olympics and winning the tournament scoring title — that it’s only going to become easier to mention him as one of the best scorers in history, not just in this era. We didn’t really learn anything new about Kevin Durant in this tournament; he just continued to establish that he’s a historically great player worthy of all the praise he receives.”

James Harden on winning gold: “It’s hard to explain,” said Harden. “Just being on this team with this great group of guys, competing for a gold medal and reaching our goal is overwhelming … Every single day it was something different. Especially, like I said, being with these guys. You get to watch them play basketball, you play basketball against them, but once you are the same team you get a feeling for who they are as a person. Every single day was something different and I am just happy to be a part of this team.”

Bill Simmons in a mailbag on LeBron and KD’s chemistry: “Totally agree — maybe Bird and Magic in their primes would have blended together for more artistic reasons, and maybe Pippen and Jordan are the best example of two teammates completing each other, but what made the LeBron-Durant pairing so much fun was the way they blended idealistically. It just worked. They seemed to be genuinely invested in the other’s success. That’s another advantage 2012 has over 1996 — name me two people on the 1996 team who would have been genuinely invested in the other’s success.”

Henry Abbott of TrueHoop on the idea the “system” favored the Lakers in the Howard deal: “The Magic took a bad deal because that’s what they were looking for. That’s something the NBA should change. The best players in the world almost all go high in the lottery, to a collection of the teams that lose the most. If the best players found employment almost any other way, there’d be no reason for the Magic to have made the crucial decision to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. But for the lure of high picks born of terrible play, the Magic would have demanded great heaps of talented players for Howard, and the league wouldn’t feel so lopsided.”

Who are the next stars likely to hold their team hostage?

Jeff Caplan of ESPN Dallas ranks OKC second in the West: “Hey, we still love these guys. Kevin Durant might win 10 more scoring titles in a row, Russell Westbrook will continue to mature and James Harden and Serge Ibaka only seem to be scratching their potential. So why is it seemingly so easy to rank the West champs behind the Lakers? Because L.A. has double the number of scoring threats and that new defensive stopper in the middle.”

David Aldridge of NBA.com: “Now, the Thunder have to reassess. Now, the Clippers have to regroup. Now, the Spurs have to rethink. There have been rumbles that Oklahoma City was going to use its amnesty provision on Kendrick Perkins in the near future. That’s over now. Perkins and his limited offense — but great post defense over the years against Howard — are back in the mix. The Clippers suddenly look a body short. And Big Boy Basketball, banished to the corner while the Heat and Thunder went small in the playoffs and won, may be back on center stage.”

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Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Lillard is overrated and feeling too confident after the silly half-ass summer league.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Crow I think he's going to be pretty good, maybe never elite but something similar to Lowry 

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @OBoymuzik might be more like Monta Ellis but we will see...

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Aldridge should probably bail on Portland if he is about winning.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Crow Aldridge is the forgotten man, he gets left out of conversations about elite 4's in the league...finally made the all star team this year and Scotty barely played him....makes sense for him to stay in Portland 

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @OBoymuzik touch n go i think. wait n see what happens this season and maybe next. he'll probably stay if it is not bad but it could be.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Picture of maynor working out at the practice facility today

 

http://lockerz.com/s/234590489

 

Can anyone tell who that is working out on the other side of the gym? Maybe Perry or Hollis? Don't think it's Reggie 

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @OBoymuzik he look high off the free throw line....like near the key. Maybe its Hollis

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

The low top shoes make me think it's perry because he wears the KDs but I have no idea what Hollis wears lol

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/08/video-kevin-durant-and-james-harden-on-jimmy-fallon/

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

What do you guys/girls think the over/under is on the number of games that all three of these people will play together this coming season.  Kobe - Nash - D12.

 

 

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Tronchaser it depends on if the rumors about howard sitting out to january are true, really it doesnt matter, as long as they are healthy in the playoffs they are scary, but if they are injured in the regular season we can avoid them longer if we get the number 1 seed

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'm gonna say 45.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser Well, Howard's missing 20 games or so right off the bat, so that dramatically reduces the number of potential games to begin with.

 

I'll actually take the Under on that. Niggling injuries and all.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas  @Tronchaser Just under. For the same point ou_sas raised

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

The 2012 Men's Olympic basketball team had 5 players on the team that currently or previously represented OKC. .(KD, Russ, Harden, CP3 and Tyson Chandler.) Three of them were starters.

Damn those doctors that cancelled the Chandler trade, yet approved the Perkins trade.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Skyline All responsibility for the decision lies with Presti and ownership. The doctors just advise or should.

Barry Amenema
Barry Amenema 5pts

 @Skyline and who cost us a draft pick....

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Barry Amenema  @Skyline Still don't buy that. I still am of the belief that Stern did that because Danny Ainge whined to Daddy that mean Sam Presti took him to the cleaners. 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

Barring any injuries to the Lakers, the team will probably going to win a ring this coming season..howard will probably give the team a defensive player with an impact close to what garnett did to the celtics when he turned the them to one of the greatest defenses , with a horrible defender in ray allen, and barely average defender in paul pierce..durant and westbrook wont outscore this team and harden would probably be the lakers 5th best player, unreal! if the lakers have injuries its a different ball game..i love the lakers, but durant and westbrook are one of my favvorite players but i just dont see anyway OKC can beat the lakers..

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

If you're a Laker fan, one thing you should have learned long before this recent trade is that KD & Co. are not afraid of the Lakers....at all.

walkerdog
walkerdog 5pts

 @kennygee90 They don't just look at your team and give the championship up. Howard is a better defensive player, Bynum much better offensive. Howard terrible shooting free throws. I think we can still beat them, my opinion, that's why they play the games.

neo12
neo12 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @kennygee90 i don't see the lakers keeping this team together for more than 1 year, Even with lucrative tv contracts. They going to pay in neighboorhood of $85-100 mil in luxury tax.  Buss family is rich, but not that rich.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @neo12 you shouldnt worry about the lakers, the team will probably suffer one more year of paying luxury tax..we only have steve nash signed after 2014 and if we resign howard that'll only be 2 players..the new CBA requires you to be under the salary cap for 4 out of 5 years so im guessing the lakers will choose that year..OKC has a big problem though depending on how much they extend or resign harden or ibaka

Jmb4119
Jmb4119 5pts

@kennygee90 @OBoymuzik @f5alcon @neo12 Long time reader, first time poster. Figured I'd break the ice in response to a displaced laker fan. The Thunder are a bit of a hobby / toy of passion to Clay Bennett. His wealth is generated entirely independent of the Thunder through other business ventures. As is that of many of the other members of the OKC ownership group. However, for the Buss family, the Lakers are the family business. They are entirely dependent on laker generated revenue for their cost of daily living, they don't have any independent sources of income. Clay Bennett (et al) can afford to mimimalize basketball related income because they can generate millions in other areas. The Buss family can not. Point being, if an owner had to dig deep into his pockets to pay a tax, the OKC group could probably dig much deeper than Buss if they wanted to

Jmb4119
Jmb4119 5pts

@kennygee90 @OBoymuzik @f5alcon @neo12

neo12
neo12 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @kennygee90  @OBoymuzik  @f5alcon Yeah, we'll see how the new CBA works out.  In the end its a business, and the owners will only spend the money if they think they can make it back in sales and tv contracts.  

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

@kennygee90 Howard by himself might have guaranteed 50 wins... in the East...

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoymuzik  @f5alcon  @neo12 unless your owner is glad to lose 50 to 100 million every year..i think he wont do it..but the annoying thing is bad teams will be rewarded for being horrible 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @kennygee90  @f5alcon  @neo12 Us*

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @kennygee90  @f5alcon  @neo12 Nba finals probably made is some money :)

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @kennygee90  @f5alcon  @neo12 Glad you know all about clay Bennett's finances

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @f5alcon  @OBoymuzik  @neo12  the repeat tax penalty for being for being oever the cap 4 out of 5 years is scary..OKC doesnt make that much money...you'd have to basically to let go of most of your players and have durant, westbrook and scrubs

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OBoymuzik  @kennygee90  @neo12 even if harden is expensive we can still afford him our team makes money

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @kennygee90  @neo12 First you guys said Westbrook would be the next lakers PG, now you're banking on is not keeping harden or ibaka...we're keeping one for sure and it's most likely harden...get used to us 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @neo12 OKC is in for big trouble, cause i doubt harden takes a pay cut less than 12 mill..if that happens be ready suffer the consequences..and the lakers might resign howard..then struggle in 2014-2015 season then go right back to winning rings by taking another teams superstar..besides howard by himself guarantees a 50 win team

neo12
neo12 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @kennygee90 Yeah, i think nash, kobe will be gone by then.  I think pau goes before then.   I think OKC will be alright,  lakers have a rented team, cant sustain that.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @kennygee90 if your a laker fan how can thunder players me your favorite players? thats like a Boston Fan liking A-Rod and Jeter

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @bmuelle21 i dont hate your team, you guys just came up a couple of years ago..now if yall were the celtics that would be different

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @bmuelle21  they don't view us the same way we view them

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @kennygee90 yeah that whole staying healthy thing is going to be a problem, howard has back issues now, nash has back issues, kobe has knee issues.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @f5alcon yea injuries will be a big concern...Kobe said his role on the team is going to be a closer so it'll be interesting to see how that works out..but im curious to see what improvements durant and westbrook make this upcoming season..hope their decision making improves cause that seems to be one of the few things they have trouble with

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @kennygee90 Can you tell us more about this lakers team? Since you've seen them play so much

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts

 @kennygee90 Then you can just git out.

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

The Lakers have double the number of scoring threats?! Having two top 5 scorers in the league and one of the most efficient SG's in the league coming off the bench is unimpressive I guess. The Dallas writers still hate that "little brother" passed them by so easily...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Fuzzy Logic yeah they aer just mad that they didnt get deron and howard and all they have is dork.

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @Fuzzy Logic You might even say those Dallas writers were using some... fuzzy logic.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @duhsweetness  @Fuzzy Logic Aww man. I've been holding out that joke for ages now. Just waiting for the moment :(

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@cleandoe @duhsweetness Don't worry... neither of you are the first to pull that one out... it was kind of the intention when I chose the handle...

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

"Also, if the 2008 Olympics led to The Heatles, pay close attention to the Thunder's cap machinations leading up to 2015. Russell Westbrook is a tricky little man."

 

 

 

 

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