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The Showtime Supermen may have tugged on the wrong cape

by J.G. Marking on August 10, 2012 at 2:32 pm 84 Comments

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Ed note: DT contributor J.G. Marking fired off an email to me saying he thought this Dwight Howard trade was a good thing. When I asked him why, he ripped off this response that provides something from the passionate fan perspective of the deal.

Since almost everyone is writing off the Thunder for the Western Conference Champs for the 2012-2013 NBA season, it’s hard for me to want to talk about anything else except why that really doesn’t make any sense at all because the two biggest issues that Lakers had last year was, 1) We can’t seem to stop Kevin Durant anymore and, 2) We REALLY can’t even slow down Russell Westbrook, and since I don’t see Dwight Howard coming out to defend either one of them…but I digress.

I’m actually very, incredibly interested in one specific ripple-effect from this trade that may seem like it’s coming from WAY out in left-field, but just hear me out on this…I think the Lakers just kept James Harden and Serge Ibaka in OKC for the foreseeable future.

And I’ve got four reasons of why I think that…

1) It’s one thing to walk away from a potential dynasty because you want to test out greener pastures and see what you can do on your own because you have no challengers left (in your conference, at the very least), it’s an entirely different thing for another team to come in and in one swoop cast you aside like yesterday’s news and make everyone essentially forget about your team and your band of brothers, that just won a conference championship, who will now be underdogs in the conference that they just claimed victory in while not losing ANY key cogs at all.There’s not a single returning member of the Thunder who isn’t ALREADY chomping at the bit to say, “You know what, F–k you guys. You think the Lakers have our number NOW?! After everything we’ve gone through and overcome?…Let’s do this.”

2) It couldn’t have happened at a better time. If you don’t think Kobe Bryant is jawing in Durant’s, Westbrook’s and Harden’s ears (especially Harden’s) about sitting at his table now that he’ll have yet another “best center of his generation” on his team and that they had their one shot in a lockout shortened season but they failed and it’s now gone forever…and if you don’t think Pau Gasol is smirking at Ibaka, speaking in Spanish about eating an entire wheel of cheese and how much he’s going to love having THE best shot-blocker and defender in basketball on his team for the regular season, then I’ve got news for you, nothing helps someone take less money and collectively sacrifice their own personal desires and dreams of “stardom” than A WORTHY ADVERSARY. Shoot, I’ll say it, ENEMY.

Not to mention the common goal that a group of brothers have grown up in the NBA together striving towards, only to come so close to achieving and reaching, instead having to watch someone else bask in the glory of that elusive championship. But also, and maybe mainly, especially when that worthy enemy can smirk like Kobe Bryant and piss you off like Pau Gasol…and then turn Steve Nash into Darth Canuck.

3) Clay Bennett will not, now that he’s been on the Western Conference mountaintop after YEARS of swindling (just being honest) and planning and patiently maneuvering for just the right and perfect window of opportunity at a dynasty, let the f—ing Lakers, in one summer, rise up and shove him off the top of the hill like some lame and powerless “small market” pansy without a fight. They’ve come too far and he’s got WAY too much blood on his hands at this point not to just go flat-out Macbeth and start slaughtering the money trees to pay whatever ransom it’s going to take to not let the West Coast, big city, perfect weather, “free agent dream destination,” Showtime Lakers spoil everything that this franchise, HIS franchise, has not only worked for, but actually STANDS for.

And don’t let that last point go unappreciated. The Thunder stand for something; they have an identity that everyone in the organization takes an incredible amount of pride and responsibility for and in, from the ushers at the stadium, to the front office suits to the guys on the hardwood, this franchise matters and stands for something. It means something to every single person beyond just a business, but also, and maybe most importantly, the Thunder mean something and stand for something to their community that maybe no other team in the league could ever come close to being.

And Kevin Durant knows it. James Harden knows it. Every single person knows it.

That’s why I can see Clay going all Happy Gilmore and just randomly screaming, “This is your home! Are you too good for your home?! ARE YOU?!!!” as he just writes endless amounts of zeroes on checks for Harden and Ibaka.

And finally…

4) If you had to characterize Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden and Serge Ibaka with one defining characteristic, it would not be, “Backing down from a fight.” In fact, you could make an incredibly compelling argument that all four of those individuals may be best defined with the moniker that they are not only FUNDAMENTALLY INCAPABLE of backing down from a challenge, but that they go around eagerly looking for one.

Because every single one of them, at one time or another, or with one critique or another, has had doubters and haters to shut up. “He’s too skinny; he can’t even bench 185 pounds. All he does is shoot…What?! He can’t play point guard, he’s too selfish and erratic…You’re kidding me, that guy is not athletic enough to be a shooting guard in the NBA and is totally unworthy of the #3 pick…Wait, the guy who never really played organized basketball until probably too late in life, and is too raw to make an offensive impact, and can’t stop goaltending, he’s going to be a legit PF in the league? The guy who is a horribly poor rebounder for his size and athleticism? Haha, ok, sure…” You see, those four all take extreme joy in looking Goliath straight in the eye, sliding that stone into the slingshot, and readying that thing to fire, with either a shimmy, a snarl, a wide-eyed holler or a finger wag, care of the Congo.

And right now, the Lakers just shoved all four of them in the back on the playground and said, “Oh yeah? Whatcha gonna do about it?”

That’s why the Lakers may have just saved the Thunder’s core for the next 5-10 years.

Because. It’s. F—ing. On.

…good grief the season needs to start tomorrow.

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 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts

Howards back is cursed. CURSED I TELL YOU.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

Such a well-written message/article.  I enjoyed reading this!

Bryson
Bryson 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

This. This is the way we play best. With a chip on our shoulder and a 'Fuck you' attitude. 

EVDebs
EVDebs 5pts

They've finally figured out how to make Craig Sager dress like a normal human being: give him a uniform!

EVDebs
EVDebs 5pts

Whoops...wrong thread!

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

I came into this article thinking there would be some financial piece that I had missed, but alas, no such thing. I'm still on the fence

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I agree with JG that it will probably be good for the Thunder players to feel like underdogs again, and ticked and out to prove something. I don't know if they feel that way or if they take a confident, not rattled stance.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I think they would have felt that way going into the season regardless since they lost to the Heat.  Maybe that underdog feeling will be beneficial, but I'd rather just be the better team.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @justin_mia The Lakers will set a mark for how good the Thunder defense needs to be or at least what it needs to be close to.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @justin_mia I am expecting the Lakers defense to be at least 3-4 pts better than league average, maybe more. Last season the Thunder was +1.5 pts better than league in regular season, but almost 4 pts worse than the playoff average (maybe only 2 pts worse after you  adjust for tougher schedule).

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow I can agree w/that.

[censored]
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Also I think you're projecting just a little bit of your emotions onto the players.  It's tough to imagine what they are thinking about this.  To say that our rivals improving exponentially is a good thing because the players will want to stick together to take them down... IMO that's really grasping at straws to find that silver lining.

J G Marking
J G Marking 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia But no fan ever projects their emotions onto their team or its players. :)

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

Maybe this is emotional escapism from the reality that OKC is a small market and will face long term challenges in the league as it is currently constructed.  

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

"1) We can’t seem to stop Kevin Durant anymore and, 2) We REALLY can’t even slow down Russell Westbrook, and since I don’t see Dwight Howard coming out to defend either one of them…but I digress."

 

Dwight is the best PnR defending big in the league, and best rim protector in the league, and best defensive rebounder in the league.  No, he will not defend Westbrook directly, but his presence will definitely influence Russell into tougher shots and decisions than Bynum's presence would.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Westbrook vs the Lakers in the playoff shot under 40% FG%  in 3 of 5 tries. At least 2 were bad overall impact games for him. A third was just average at best.  I'd think that the Lakers  generally ok with how they handled Westbrook this time

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Clay Bennett better work all his connections and goodwill with David Stern, and I mean all of them, including those I won't mention explicitly this time, to get "fair" refereeing. The league will surely want a Lakers / Heat match-up and there is enough evidence in my mind they they can and sometimes do manipulate referee assignments to at least modestly improve the chances of the preferred outcome and that some referees, especially the old and virtually untouchable ones, sorta know what the league wants..

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts

 @Crow joey crawford. nuff said.   and for some reason tony brothers HATES us as well

KellOne
KellOne 5pts

Screw the olympics!  Bring our boys home so we can play the Lakers TOMORROW!  I'm pumped up now.  Thanks JG!

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/08/usa-vs-argentina-open-thread-3/#respond

blueRAP
blueRAP 5pts

Team USA about to play

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @blueRAP Maybe you don't understand this, but the Lakers are BETTER than team USA, so why would I want to watch an inferior product? 

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts

Josh McRoberts and Christian Eyenga were part of the trade, too?

cal646
cal646 5pts

Love this article. The only problem is that if a team comes around and offers Harden/Ibaka huge sums of money, will they really turn it down. It will be interesting to see and will show a lot about each of their personalities. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cal646 That only matters if we don't extend them. Still a lot of time to do that.

neo12
neo12 5pts

 @cal646 I don't see Ibaka taking a discount to stay, and i don't really blame him.  He's made peanuts on his rookie contract.  

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Also, this is way off topic, but I just have to get this out there: For anyone who watched any of the pre-season NFL games last night... we need the professional refs back SO BADLY. Like, scary badly.

ThunderCityUsa
ThunderCityUsa 5pts

@duhsweetness man were they bad like scary bad like Bobcats bad

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @duhsweetness sometimes I wish the nba refs would go on strike

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts

 @bmuelle21 So you would never complain about the regular refs ever again? Because that's what would happen.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @duhsweetness thats why I said sometimes i wish

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

i've gotten to the point where I don't even read the articles anymore (no disrespect) I just read people's comments and that basically tell me the summary...kinda of like spark notes but for articles instead of books

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

 @bmuelle21 Savor the deets!

Barry Amenema
Barry Amenema 5pts

 @bmuelle21 To me, the most interesting point he makes is....oooo, look! a piece of candy...

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I hope KD has to get drug tested after the game tonight.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 8 Like

Fan blogs are the best.

supreme35
supreme35 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

Well I enjoyed the article. It's the attitude everyone needs in life.

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Well I heard there might not be a season this year, the league is now considering having only the Lakers and Heat play this year, since those are the only two teams that matter. They will play each other 82 times and if they're tied at 41 a piece, they'll play one more game for the title. 

 

Just a rumor though. 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

Let's be reality, resigning harden and ibaka comes down to ownership and ownership only nothing to do with hidden powers for revenge.

CDNBallJunkie
CDNBallJunkie 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones The reality is, both Harden and Ibaka know that they will not smell the Western Conference finals, or even the East finals, if they leave. That being said, they love it in OKC from what I can see and it takes a little bit of pride shedding and full understanding that keeping the core intact WILL get them a ring.

neo12
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 @CDNBallJunkie  @Lost Ones Let's hope they took that away from last season, even with the stacked team OKC had last season, it was difficult journey.  

neo12
neo12 5pts

 @Lost Ones Yeah.. we not getting discount from JH/Ibaka.  Ownership's gotta pony up.

D@nny
D@nny 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @neo12 No reason to think we won't get a little-discount from Harden and Ibaka...Russ gave us a discount, and things like that set precedent. No reason to think that ownership might just not pony up as well... 

ou_sas
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 @neo12  @Lost Ones We might not get a discount from Ibaka, but I'd thought I'd read on DT that Harden had intimated that he would take less to stay.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @ou_sas  @neo12 probably a few million over a few seasons nothing that will be impactful

D@nny
D@nny 5pts

 @Lost Ones Ownership potentially has a  LOT to do with hidden powers and revenge. 

CDNBallJunkie
CDNBallJunkie 5pts

Royce may have been using an optimistic tone, but in fact he was using reality. If I'm Harden right now, would I skip town and join the Suns where I have virtually no chance of beating either OKC or LA? Or would I stay on board for less and make sure that the Lakers don't stop me from achieving the ultimate goal my teammates and I (who have gone through the ups and downs together) have been striving for since Day 1 in OKC? It's logic. The Lakers sent OKC the middle finger, and they're going to have to break that finger and the players understand that.

CDNBallJunkie
CDNBallJunkie 5pts

My bad, meant J.G

neo12
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Darth Canuck. Lol..

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Forever love this f---ing article Royce. Bravo.

D@nny
D@nny 5pts

 @novelisticbee0 It's not Royce.

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts

 @D@nny Just assumed. Sorry J. G. lol

Royce Young
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 @D@nny  @novelisticbee0 If you liked it, let's pretend it was. If you hated it, it wasn't by me.

Royce Young
Royce Young moderator 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @tydude  @D@nny  @novelisticbee0  @nny Nah, another one is coming shortly.

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

 @Royce Young  @D@nny  @novelisticbee0  @nny is this the open thread for the USA game today??

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