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Onward with the Thunder top 10. It’s all pretty obvious to everyone who Oklahoma City’s top players are, so there really won’t be any big surprises here. OR WILL THERE BE?
If you missed 18-11 or are too unaware to scroll down just a little to see it, it’s right here. Again, a new player every 30 minutes or so.
10. Daequan Cook | SG | Age: 25 | #NBARank: 286
It’s a tough gig being a hired gun. Cook’s job is to walk on the floor and make 3-pointers. He might get three cracks at them in six minutes. And if he misses two of three? Then it’s not good enough. Imagine that kind of role. You’re coming in cold, you’re trying not to force anything and you don’t have the luxury of warming up or finding a rhythm. You have to be in ready and in rhythm at all times.
All things considered, Cook is a pretty darn good specialist. Nothing showcased it more than Game 5 against the Spurs in San Antonio where Cook, who barely had played in the series, showed up big a spurt of first half minutes knocking down a barrage of triples.
9. Perry Jones III | F | Age: 22 | #NBARank: 306
What’s most interesting to me is what Jones’ place will be at season’s end. Will he be along the end of the bench with Lazar Hayward and Reggie Jackson? Or could he rise to be one of the Thunder top six or seven players? He starts at nine simply because he’s such an unknown. His talent is undeniable. But with only one look at him in Orlando during Summer League and the fact he miraculously slipped all the way to OKC at 28, it’s hard to pinpoint where Jones will fit this season.
It seems to make the most sense to just sort of play it by ear, working him in to different lineup combinations and different situations to see where he fits best. And if he finds that workable slot, come 2013′s #ThunderRank, Jones could be sitting much higher. For now, he’s the Thunder’s man of mystery. An intriguing prospect full of “what if,” who really can only boom, not bust.
8. Kendrick Perkins | C | Age: 27 | #NBARank: 120
Somehow, a defensive-minded, role-playing center has become Oklahoma City’s most polarizing player. There are the Perk apologists, the ones that revere his toughness, his screen-setting, intangibles, his locker room presence, his leadership and all of that other crap. There are the Perk haters, the ones that gripe about his clumsy plodding, about his complete lack of any offensive ability, about how overrated he is as a defender and a rebounder.
And then there’s the middle, where I fall. You always have to take Perk for what he is. If you expect more, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment and anger. He’s a bad offensive player that is only useful for a hard screens, easy dunks and an occasional slick touch-pass. He’s a strong bruiser that definitely sets a defensive tone inside and holds teammates accountable. You don’t cross Perk. I’ve seen it up close and in person. You. Don’t. Do. It.
His value comes in extremes. Against Andrew Bynum, Marc Gasol and Dwight Howard, there might not be a better post defender. Against a fleet-footed smallball unit, he struggles. And that’s not on him always. It’s often on Scott Brooks to make sure he’s putting Perk in situations he can succeed in. It’s not fair to take blind man and ask him to find Waldo. There’s an Einstein quote that says, “Everybody’s a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing its stupid.” Applicable to Perk.
Sometimes Perk excels against all odds, like he did the final four games against the Spurs. But for the most part, he’s a specialist, best deployed against a dominant post. Use him wisely and he’s a tremendous asset that few teams have. Just blindly run him out against any lineup with the expectation he’s going to do his job all the same and you’re going to be forced to gripe. The question isn’t about his rebounding or scoring or whatever. It’s about if he contributes to winning. Are the Thunder better off with him on the floor, or without him? That’s the bar you should judge Perk by. The answer? Depends on who he’s guarding.
7. Eric Maynor | PG | Age: 25 | #NBARank: 190
I keep coming back to it to illustrate how good Maynor is. Game 2 of the Western Conference finals, 2011. The Thunder are in a tight one with the Mavs. With Russell Westbrook on the bench, OKC’s offense is clicking, moving the ball and scoring. Building, and maintaining, a lead over Dallas. The problems that plagued the Thunder during the playoffs of the offense stalling and stagnating isn’t happening. So Scott Brooks makes a critical decision to stick with Maynor and leave his All-Star point guard on the bench.
The headlines and talking-head buzz was all about how Brooks “benched” Westbrook. But in reality, it had far more to do with Maynor than it did Westbrook. He might be a backup point guard, he might see sparse minutes at times, but Maynor is no joke. He’s (almost) as much a weapon as his bench counterpart James Harden.
What decreases his value though is that a) Westbrook is a robot and never gets tired or hurt, meaning Maynor hasn’t ever really had a chance to run the team on his own and b) he’s coming off a major knee injury. The word is that Maynor has bounced back entirely from the ACL tear that ended his season early last year. But you never know until he’s back in action and really testing it out live.
Maynor gives OKC a whole slew of options in smallball. Brooks liked playing Derek Fisher and Westbrook last season, but with Maynor, that only makes that lineup that much more dynamic. He’s a backup point guard, which is an NBA luxury, but Maynor is a versatile one. A great floor general, a wonderful change of pace to the frenzy that is Westbrook, and an underrated shooter. Assuming good health, Maynor is quietly one of the Thunder’s best secret weapons.
6. Thabo Sefolosha | SG | Age: 28 | #NBARank: 117
Did you know: Thabo shot 43.7 percent from 3 last season, ranking him ninth overall in the league. The one major gripe about Thabo has been his inability to consistently hit a corner 3, thus making him irrelevant to OKC’s offense. Except he seemed to have taken a very positive step last season. (His previous career-high from 3 was 35.7 percent his rookie season where he took half a 3 a game. In 2010-11, he shot 27.5 percent from deep.)
There’s no questioning Thabo’s defensive chops. He’s an elite man-to-man defender and an absolute terror in passing lanes. He almost single-handily blew up San Antonio’s offense in Game 3. He understands his strengths and weaknesses and is entirely fine adhering to his role. He’s a hard-worker that brings great energy every night and has quietly improved his game. The next step would be a little more consistency from outside, but really, Thabo is what he is and adds a whole lot to OKC’s winning culture.
5. Nick Collison | PF | Age: 31 | #NBARank: 100
No, I didn’t actually consider ranking him first. But I did seriously think hard about moving him to fourth. Say what you want about plus/minus, but there’s no denying that the Thunder are consistently a better team — meaning they score more points than the other team does — when Collison is on the floor.
It’s not just about the so-called little things he does — tipping rebounds, setting screens, taking charges, diving for loose balls. It’s also the big things, like being one of the very best pick-and-roll defenders in the league. It’s not something that necessarily is calculable, but Collison makes the Thunder better. Plain and simple. His work shows up in the standings, not the box score.
It says a whole lot about a player to swallow the pride and desire to be more and instead just fill your role and do your job. Nobody embodies that more than Collison. Don’t forget: This guy was a McDonald’s All-American, an All-American at Kansas and a lottery pick. And instead of trying to bulldoze his way into being a household name, he’s accepted his place and made one just by doing his job. He’s a hardhat player and one that sets the standard for it.
Every teams wants a Nick Collison. And if you don’t have one, you’re looking for him.
4. Serge Ibaka | PF | Age: 23 | #NBARank: 41
The shotblocking is obviously incredible. A hundred more than the next closest guy in the league last season. Almost blocking as many shots as entire teams. He changes things defensively because of his ability to wipe away attacks on the rim. He allows OKC’s perimeter defenders to be more aggressive, to take more risks, to jump passing lanes, because he can often bail them out.
Yes, he’s not a perfect defender even with the volume of blocks. His pick-and-roll coverages are extremely spotty. He still gets lost on the weakside ball-watching. Because of his over-eagerness to swat everything, he bites on simple pump fakes. But come on, he’s just turned 24 and clearly has made incredible strides during his first few seasons in the league.
One of which being that Ibaka is actually one of the more deadly mid-range bigs in the league. Ibaka shot 45 percent from 16-23 feet, eighth best among power forwards in the league. Better than LaMarcus Aldridge, Pau Gasol, Elton Brand, Paul Millsap, Chris Bosh, Amar’e Stoudemire and Kevin Love. So if you hear someone after Ibaka drills an 18-footer say, “You can live with Ibaka taking that shot,” have that little stat handy. Because he’s an offensive weapon in the pick-and-pop.
He lacks in the post and definitely needs to develop more of a back-to-the-basket game. With Shane Battier guarding him in the Finals, there’s no reason the Thunder shouldn’t have been able to pound the ball to Ibaka for points and force Miami’s hand.
What’s his ceiling? 12-10-3? 15-12-3? How good could he be? He’s not done improving. He’s got parts of his game to refine, things to get lots better at and things to focus on. Which again, is incredible when you’re talking about an extremely good player already.
There’s been so much talk about James Harden and his future that it seems to be overlooked that Ibaka is locked up as part of OKC’s long-term future. A budding, developing freak specimen that’s 24 years old and just now starting to scratch his potential. Oh, and the fourth best player on the team. Not bad.
3. James Harden | SG | Age: 23 | #NBARank: 26
For a second, let’s put aside the whole contract thing.
(Waiting.)
I said a second.
I deadline looms large and it appears the team will enter training camp without Harden signed. Will it be a distraction? Probably, at least for a little while. Once the season gets rolling then we’ll know more. The question is, if Harden truly wants to be a max player, how does he handle his role during the season. Does he press? Does he force the issue? Does he maintain the play he did last season? Does he try and assert himself as more of a featured player? Those are the types of things that hang over when there’s a contract up in the air.
But enough of that. I think there’s a small minority of folks that would have Ibaka above Harden. And the truth is, I had to think for just a minute about if Harden should be No. 1 on this list. Which as I’ve often said, tells you how damn good this team is. Outside of No. 1, 2-4 could really be interchangeable night-to-night. Actually, that’s not true. Really, the top four slots can fluctuate because there have been times that Harden has established himself as the best player on the floor (Game 4 against the Mavs anyone?).
The thing you wonder about Harden though that’s different from Durant and Westbrook is if he’s potentially a franchise centerpiece kind of player. It seems like he relishes his role as second or third banana, with the opportunity to jump to the alpha at any point. The pressure is off him to a degree and he can truly just let the game come to him. Put him in Phoenix and I have no doubt he’d be a 20-5-5 guy, or close to. But would he make them a winner as the top dog? I don’t know about that. In OKC, he’s going to have it good for a while. A very rich man playing for a very good team where he has free reign to dominate, or not dominate, any given night.
2. Russell Westbrook | PG | Age: 23 | #NBARank: 9
As a high priest in the Defender of All Things Westbrook cult, yeah, I thought about it. Not that hard though. But you could make a case for No. 1. I think he was the Thunder’s MVP during the 2010-11 season. Durant is a more polished player, far more efficient and in general, way easier to appreciate and watch. But Westbrook is a competitor. Someone that brings his effort and intensity nightly, someone that won’t ever go down without a fight.
Here’s how good he’s been: He’s mostly shut everyone up. No more discussions about his true position. No more talk about if he and Durant can win together. No more talk about him wanting to be the alpha dog. Westbrook silenced it all by a) playing damn good ball and b) signing up with OKC for five more years. Yeah, there are few outliers still championing the silly Westbrook Debate, but for the most part, it’s over. If you watch the NBA and follow closer than just watching SportsCenter, you appreciate the player he is.
The biggest remaining question about Westbrook is where he can go as a defender. He’s not been strong in that area at all thus far in his career, showing flashes of defensive brilliance at times while mostly gambling his way to bad decisions. He has the tools to be an elite defender. But it’s about applying those to the principles and discipline that make it so.
I think one day I’m going to make a documentary called “Dr. Russlove: or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Russell Westbrook.” I’ve said it before, I know, but it’s about accepting the fact that Westbrook isn’t going to play the way you think he should. Once you do that, you can take him for what he is. One hell of a basketball player.
1. Kevin Durant | SF | Age: 24 | #NBARank: N/A
So good. So, so good.
So good.




http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/09/wednesday-bolts-9-26-12/
2 loudest stadiums/areans in sports.... OKC Thunder - Seattle Seahawks.
Ironic.
Even other teams' cheerleaders get alternate uniforms before we do...
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/brooklyn-nets-reveal-dancers-uniforms-very-different-001306925--nba.html
(....I beg your pardon..."Dance Troupes")
@Barry Amenema Is a "troupe" a fancy "troop"?
Three air balls plus how long you keep your off hand up while dribbling multiplied by how high you can jump to the 3rd power equals Reggie should have got more PT. hahhahaha
I along w/every GM in the league would place Perk ahead of Maynor but otherwise an accurate list. However, count me amongst the 'small minority' that is glad we locked up Serge over James if it comes to that.
Like the Wizards, Charlotte, Minnesotta and Kings. Not really saying much:) hahhaa
Excited for training camp.
To get you hyped, check out this montage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1jiN6ytSA
@Thunder S Good find, bro. +1 for you
@Tronchaser @Thunder S
G'Morning, Tron . . . replied to you in Tuesday Bolts.
@ThunderChick2010 @Tronchaser @Thunder S Behold the power of Livefyre.
@ou_sas @Tronchaser @ThunderChick2010 @Thunder S
And this is how ou_sas keeps tabs on all of us. :)
@Tronchaser @ThunderChick2010 @Thunder S You may switch to an hourly digest, rather than instant update. I did that... at the busiest, a thread might get 12-13 updates in one day, and gmail will stack them all up for you in one conversation.
@ThunderChick2010 @Thunder S *threw me off
*arg1*
@ThunderChick2010 @Thunder S Ahhh... good to see ya thinking about it. That's always a good thing. How often do we just mindlessly shovel whatever is in front of us into our mouths? Quite often I'm betting. To sustain it, you really have to alter the way you think about food and health. The thing that through me off last year was getting out of the routine. I was sent to Denver a couple of times living in a hotel. Not good for Ye Ole' Diet. By the time I got back, I couldn't find the rhythm again and it was all over.
But now I'm back on the wagon with a different goal in mind. It literally is an everyday battle.
(BTW, I don't actually "count" the carbs either. I just know that what I have set aside for that day falls within a certain range of carbs. 50-100 in my case. Rinse, repeat everyday = weight loss)
@ThunderChick2010 @Thunder S I will go back and look. I disabled the email notifications as I was getting about 50 emails a day from DT, so I never know if someone responds in an old thread. :)
@Thunder S Wow. That's awesome. I'd say the best thunder montage I've ever seen. I loved how they used more low key music and actually included the commentary and crowd noise. This deserves a Saturday morning cartoons link of its own.
So i may going to Seattle to visit my one of my old ex's / now friend and her family for Thanksgiving. My family is leaving to Texas, and i'm going to be all alone, and she thought why not go spend it with her, and her family. The last time i went to Seattle was about 3 years ago. So any posters on here from Seattle have any idea's of good places to eat, visit and ect? She lives on Mercer Island so its not exactly in the city, and her folks are kinda more like BBQ's, and home cooking type. Pretty much they don't go out unless they have to lol. So if anyone can give me some idea's i'd appreciate it.
@ElMexiThunder you should try Paseo in Fremont. http://www.paseoseattle.com/ They serve about 100 sandwiches per hour. Consistently full. One of the best sandwiches in the US.
@ElMexiThunder good luck
@ElMexiThunder Seattle is the best city in the US in my book. Educated populous, temperate climate, & beautiful Asian chicks out the wazoo. My recommendation is to just start walking around, something enticing will turn up.
Back in 2008-- when OU still fielded varsity football and it wasn't a club sport, we went to Seattle for the OU-Washington game. We ended up spending five days there because we were stupid enough to fly Continental and the Houston airport got blown blown away by a hurricane. Great seafood places all over Seattle. The best place we ate at though was this German beer hall on campus with some of the best brats and beer I've ever had. Can't remember the name, but the locals will know instantly.
@El Prez sounds like shultzy's sausage, they've been around awhile and popular last time i was in the area
go to bennett's, it's on the island
Alright, folk, I'm out for the night. Stay safe.
damn, you're right. I should not be posting on this site while driving.
A nice steady rain continues in Deer Creek. The heavy precip has missed us to both the north and south. I would suspect Chickasha, Blanchard, and Alex got upwards of an inch. I've switched from the shiraz to straight Jose Cuervo shots so as to save face with cemitten and keep the likes coming. On my second cigar now. Caught one of the pillows on my wife's brand new outdoor patio chairs on fire with the first cigar. Thankfully--it's trash pickup day tomorrow in Deer Creek...so i'm thinking maybe if I just throw it away she won't notice in that she specifically told me not to sit on the new furniture with a cigar.
@El Prez 80 degrees and breezy in south Florida. :)
@El Prez
If the wind is gusting like it is here, you could just pretend it blew away. :)
Or...we have really big squirrels out here.Maybe one came on the porch and took it away to build a luxury squirrel nest.
@El Prez
Thieving Squirrel Nesting
Westbrook the MVP??..nah thats Durant...Westbrook has that fire and will to not lose but he plays too fast for his own good sometimes..If he learns to read the game and let it come to him he'll be way better..He has a low IQ for a PG but his athleticism and quickness more than makes up for it..Durant is on another level than Westbrook..Durant has gotten to that level where nothing you'll do will stop him unless you completely key the defence on him which will lead to westbrook going off..Durant is the better player and the MVP..Westbrook has everything but the Intelligence of the game, he'll gain that through experience and time though..I hate that skip bayless bandwagon of Westbrook and Durant not being able to win together cause i think they can as time goes by
@kennygee90 i encourage you to read more of the post, and hopefully you've already seen durant is #1
@OBoymuzik I know, i just wanted to add my 2 cents in it
@OBoymuzik lol i noticed .. his done that to the Lakers a couple times..
@kennygee90 in regular season games i mean. overall durant is always the best.
@kennygee90 alot of times he is the best player in the regular season because he doesn't take games off. and when the team is playing its worst he usually gets really mad and goes nuts and does stuff like battles Hibbert for rebounds lol.
this has been posted before right? if not shame on us all
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m07t3fJSmQ1qzb7vjo1_500.jpg
@OBoymuzik So that's what it looks like when Perk smiles? Someone might need to teach him how to smile. I like grumpy Perk better anyway
@ThunderUp35 how you came away from this picture talking about Perk smiling instead of Reggie wearing Kanye sunglasses, a jester hat, and some sort of scarf really says something.
@OBoymuzik At least we now know what it takes to make Perk smile. lol
I have nothing worthwhile to add.
@cemitten
That doesn't stop most of us.
@ThunderChick2010 http://xc4.xanga.com/0b2e146740635275648960/m219672437.gif
@cemitten
Okay, that's weird--even by our standards.
@ThunderChick2010 http://i.imgur.com/3QQJ3.gif
@ThunderChick2010 http://i.imgur.com/7Fd7d.gif
The bench per +- divided by points per game rounded by pie was better with Reggie on the court . Maynor wasn't that Lmao. Yet Reggie couldn't get pr
@OkcBaby well, most pies are round. his formula concludes that eric maynor is delicious.
@OkcBaby Rounded by pie?
@justin_mia @OkcBaby the right numbers can make anyone look good. by the ratings jay leno pulls, you would infer that he would be funny.
@action jack$on @justin_mia Exactly:) haha
@justin_mia @OkcBaby (S)He's saying the statistics are baked.
@justin_mia @OkcBaby Who doesn't like Pie?
@OkcBaby I agree Maynor should have gotten more minutes with a torn ACL
@OkcBaby
Excerpt from my screenplay "Backup Point Guard."
OKC BABY: "I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for Maynor's minutes, I can tell you that I can't give you that. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you stop trying to take Maynor's minutes now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you. "
@Jooseppi @OkcBaby
Have you seen this, Jooseppi? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aQ2X1YBfjQ
@Jooseppi @OBoymuzik http://i.imgur.com/F26H5.gif
@Jooseppi 1000000000x better than 2 white kids in polo's saying "nizzle" in a mcdonalds drive thru
@OBoymuzik This is old, but it should pick you up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WygNjMSllLQ
@OBoymuzik @Jooseppi @OkcBaby
(Look what cleandoe is missing.)
@Jooseppi @ThunderChick2010 @OkcBaby I did too but then i watched a related video that was some white kids rapping at a Mcdonalds drive thru, and left youtube for the night. Thats why i didn't like your post TC
@Jooseppi @OkcBaby
But wrong movie, I soon realized. Still good. :)
@ThunderChick2010 @OkcBaby I had not but I thoroughly enjoyed it.
@Jooseppi BRAVO
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