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Bobcats vs. Thunder: Open thread

by Royce Young on October 16, 2012 at 4:41 pm 610 Comments

Not playing tonight: James Harden, Thabo Sefolosha and Kendrick Perkins. Expected to play: Daniel Orton. So that should be interesting.

Also, Scott Brooks says Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook will play more minutes.

Like the first two games, Cole Aldrich is certainly something to watch, but I’m very interested in Orton. Does he have a chance at the 15th spot? Can he make more of an impact than Hasheem Thabeet? This is his first real chance and he needs to perform.

Again, not on local TV, but you can try this stream.

SCOTT BROOKS

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beelieve035
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http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/thunder-120-bobcats-98-more-than-five-thoughts/#more-22348

Jooseppi
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The Nets had a starting lineup of Andray Blatche, Reggie Evans, Josh Childress, Keith Bogans and CJ Watson. 

shiki
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 @Jooseppi Blatche had good stat,I wanted to add him in our roster but now I have to tell myself it is only Preseason game

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts

@shiki @Jooseppi I watched the Nets first home game against blah blah the other day, Blatche looked active and invested but a bit clumsy and couldn't finish around the rim at all. Is he looking better today?

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts

I couldn't remember what he was asking from the Wizards in terms of contract but whatever it was, they were smart not to give it to him regardless. Oh yeah, they were playing the Wizards, explains the motivation......

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 @Jooseppi And they won the first quarter.

Bryson
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 @justin_mia  @Jooseppi They won the game. Despite Paul Pierce shitting on them via 3pt line. 

Jooseppi
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 @Bryson   @justin_mia Nets sat their six best players (all 5 starters) too. Boston sat Bradley. 

Jooseppi
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Play by play shows Aldrich with the tip again. Is that what happened? He's not going to win tips.

Serge territory. 

Tronchaser
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 @Jooseppi Cole wasnt even looking when the ref tossed the ball, he was looking behind him.  /facepalm

Jooseppi
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 @Tronchaser Probably wondering what everybody else in the building was, "Why isn't Serge doing this?"

Old Man Game
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 @Jooseppi  @Tronchaser I'd love that. 

Jooseppi
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 @Old Man Game  @Tronchaser Yeah. That.

Might as well give Russ a shot at it. 

Old Man Game
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 @Jooseppi  @Tronchaser Preseason right? A time to experiment with roles and such. 

Old Man Game
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We joke around a lot but seriously, we have to get Lazar off this team. Liggins, Rautins and Orton all showed they are more valuable to this team than him and yet his spot is guaranteed and at least 2 or possibly all of those guys are getting cuts. That's not right. 

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 @Old Man Game Lazar may be valuable in practice.  Rautins I'm not sold on from one preseason game against the Bobcats, he career 37.4% 3pt shooter in college I question how deadly that shot is.  Orton again, one game against the Bobcats.  Lazar isn't good on the court but the team's not going to eat his salary for two guys who had one good preseason game/

senseandsenescence
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 @justin_mia  @Old Man Game If you mean valuable for chasing balls then yes.  He couldn't even guard Gordon Hayward.  It's not like GH is super athletic.  I agree on not over reacting to a preseason game, but Liggins has already had two good preseason games and that fills up the roster right there.

senseandsenescence
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 @OBoy Jones III  @Old Man Game  @justin_mia Presti knew that even if Thabeet didn't work out on the court, that he would be an upgrade at 3 pt leg kick celebration.

OBoy
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 @Old Man Game  @justin_mia  @senseandsenescence Presti has wanted a shot at Thabeet ever since he got in the league and whats happened since probably hasn't change his mind especially because Memphis and Houston are terrible at developing talent and he was only in Portland a few months. 

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 @Old Man Game  @senseandsenescence In retrospect it may not have been a smart signing but he was still the #2 pick in the draft and Presti like reclamation projects.  I don't think it's a huge deal since it's the end of the bench and there are likely four bigs (plus PF KD) ahead of that spot on the roster already.

Tronchaser
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 @Old Man Game  @justin_mia  @senseandsenescence They were blinded by the blonde patch.

Old Man Game
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 @justin_mia  @senseandsenescence On Thabeet, Presti really got seduced by the 7'3" stat and wasn't thinking clearly. You have to think, this guy had already been on three other teams. Three sets of coaches and front offices had gotten a look at him up close. Gotten to see him everyday in practice and they all one by one let him go. You have to ask yourself, did they let him go because they just can't see the greatness? ALL of them? Or did they let him go because there is no greatness to see? 

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 @Old Man Game  @senseandsenescence just shots in the dark I'd guess, getting players in to see what they can do.  Thabeet was a swing for the fences, hit or miss signing.  I see the point in acquisitions like that, it's easy to apply hindsight to those acquisitions.  If we could wait until after preseason to choose who to fill the roster with, I bet it'd be a lot easier to pick the more productive bench warmers.

Jooseppi
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 @Old Man Game  @justin_mia  @senseandsenescence If it makes you feel better, the team used part of the MLE to pay Thabeet. :|

Old Man Game
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 @justin_mia  @senseandsenescence Right. Liggins for the open spot. My point is I wish there was another open spot. We've got Lazar and Thabeet on guaranteed deals and I don't see the point in ether one of them. 

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 @senseandsenescence  @Old Man Game I would give the roster spot to Liggins I agree with that, he seems interesting and like he'd be a good practice player also.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @justin_mia Versus Lazar though. C'mon. Did you watch him tonight? He's got a quick release and is a pure shooter. That's value. Lazar is a net negative to this team. 

Jooseppi
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 @qrex  @Old Man Game  @justin_mia The team would probably have to take something bad back or give up something somewhat valuable to trade Lazar.

qrex
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 @Old Man Game  @justin_mia What's the value in paying someone to take a roster spot? Maybe the Bobcats will trade something for him.  Anything?

[censored]
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 @Old Man Game We're arguing over 12th men here.  How much value to the team will it realistically have to replace Lazar with, say, Rautins?  Probably very little since Cook is likely better than Rautins, who wouldn't play except for injuries.  It's certainly not worth eating the value of Lazar's contract to open the roster spot.

Tronchaser
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 @Old Man Game I don't understand the fascination with Lazar.  He's just not that good.

OkcBaby
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Damn hate to be brooks:). I know it's better to have more talent then not enough. Hardest decision is who to go with. Add pj3, rautins, Ortin, liggins to the mix:). Guess Reggie/maynor wasn't it after all;)

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Who was stressing over that?  We usually went small when KD was out of the game with the 3 guard lineup, this did reasonably well the whole year, mostly Cook-Harden-Jackson, Cook-Harden-Fisher.  Of course, Cook-Harden-Maynor did well the year before.  So in a 10-man rotation that we had going on, Cook was the ipso-facto backup to Durant, and it was never a huge issue IMO...  Jones could be an interesting change from the 3 guard philosophy, though.

OBoy
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 @justin_mia it was a stupid OKC media thing for a while.

Old Man Game
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 @OBoy Jones III  @justin_mia Lots of OKC media stuff is stupid it turns out. 

Tronchaser
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 @justin_mia +1 for the use of "ipso-facto"

Old Man Game
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 @MisterJohnsonOKC Definitely maybe. 

GAP
GAP 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

Loved the renovations to the Peake and the PJ3 upgrade to the team.

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

CAN I STILL JOING THIS DT FANTASY LEAGUE THING OR IS IT OVER NOW? i finally understand how it works

SeanzieCrews
SeanzieCrews 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MrRaysian Join the Yahoo league if you have a Yahoo account.

 

League ID: 54491

League Password: royceyoung

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SeanzieCrews how do i get my self to the not australian yahoo web page

 

MrRaysian
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 @Godofserenity  @MrRaysian space jam. had to

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@MrRaysian haha, finally. Welcome, what's ur team called?

MrRaysian
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 @Godofserenity haha yep that did the trick.

 

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Mr Raysian, try the password again, but capitalise the R/Y in RoyceYoung.

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Yeah, I'm sure, I just logged into it. There's 14 players in the league now, i think the limit is 20 so that's not the problem. Anybody in this league know how to invite somebody:?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Godofserenity don't drink and draft fellas.

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Also, draft has been moved to Tuesday 3AM...(AEST)

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Godofserenity  @MrRaysian i do. just made it and said i'm signed in

u sure it's 54491 and royceyoung?

 

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@MrRaysian Weird. Do u have have a Yahoo account?

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Godofserenity  @MrRaysian i clicked join a league, took me to this site: http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/register/joinleague

and then i used the ID and password from above and it didn't work

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Just so you know, the draft for this is scheduled for roughly 10 am Monday the 29th so keep that morning open I guess.

senseandsenescence
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 @MrRaysian  @SeanzieCrews On au.yahoo.com click on the yahoo.com next to the american flag below the search box.

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@MrRaysian Google Yahoo fantasty NBA. Click Yahoo Fantasty NBA link and enter details as required. :) Click 'Join a league' once you have a Yahoo account

G.O.S.
G.O.S. 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@SeanzieCrews @MrRaysian Hey Raysian, join the Yahoo League with the left of the overflow, plenty of spots last time I checked.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MrRaysian talk to cleandoe tomorrow... he's usually not on at night. Or i can give you his email address if you want to email him.

MrRaysian
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 @OBoy Jones III it'll be great if you could do that, otherwise i'll never see him because of the time difference

OBoy
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 @MrRaysian cleandoedt@gmail (dotcom)

senseandsenescence
senseandsenescence 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MrRaysian ou_sas is on vacation right now, but his league may still have some slots open.  cleandoe runs the other one and he is normally only around in the mornings US time.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MrRaysian Probably enough people to start another

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