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Five Thoughts: OKC falls to Houston in the preseason opener

by Royce Young on October 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm 305 Comments

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For a quarter, it looked a lot like a midseason game for the Thunder. Russell Westbrook was gunning, Kevin Durant was finding a scoring rhythm and Oklahoma City seemed to have things completely under control.

Westbrook scored 16 of the Thunder’s first 21 points — in about six minutes, mind you — with Durant adding 13. Neither played at all in the second half though and eventually the Rockets’ second (and third) unit outlasted OKC’s, 107-105.

It was 48 minutes of actual, real-life basketball though. And with some interesting storylines and questions coming into training camp and the preseason, we got a little look into it all Wednesday.

Five big thoughts from the game:

1. Not too bad, Cole. His final line is nice: 10 points, 11 rebounds and three blocks in 34 minutes. But it was a bit of a rough start for Cole Aldrich. His first two defensive possessions he fouled Omer Asik, then was beat by Asik down the floor for an easy dunk. While Aldrich’s touch around the basket was nice and his energy on the glass solid, he still is a foul machine.

But considering some of the worry about the backup center position coming in, I feel like Aldrich’s performance was really positive. His baby hook with both hands is impressive. He hit one with his left and then one with his right on consecutive possessions. The big issue for Aldrich still seems to be defensive awareness and a lack of feel on the offensive end when he’s not just making a reactionary play. It seems like when Aldrich is forced to think, he either hesitates or just chooses poorly.

2. Thabeet is tall. Besides having a really weird blonde spot on the back of his head, Hasheem Thabeet was mostly unmemorable, save for a few nice putbacks inside. At times it looked like he might have a leg up on Aldrich, but he has a strange knack for a 7-3 guy that he can disappear on defensively and on the glass.

But man, he does look big out there, doesn’t he? I can see the fascination with the guy. Sometimes he can make things look easy. When he gets his hands on the ball a few feet from the bucket, it’s like someone playing on a Nerf rim.

The one thing he definitely does better than Aldrich though? Foul.

3. Jackson over Maynor? It’s probably unwise to read into much from a preseason game, but it was moderately intriguing that Reggie Jackson played over Eric Maynor in the first half. Maynor actually didn’t make an appearance until late in the third quarter. It’s likely their roles could flip-flop in OKC’s next preseason tilt, but it struck me as odd that Scott Brooks would pick Jackson first in this one.

And really, I thought Jackson played better than Maynor too. Jackson made good decisions in the pick-and-roll, attacked the rim well and pushed the pace. He finished with four points and five assists, but three turnovers. Maynor came out chucking, scoring seven on 10 shots with four assists and no turnovers.

But it was nice seeing Maynor on the floor again. It seemed like he needed a bit to find his rhythm, but he knocked down a few jumpers, made good plays and created a couple easy buckets.

4. PJIII. Perry Jones III played 18 minutes, all in the second half. He had a decent output — eight points, five rebounds and an assist — but it didn’t feel like he really impacted the game a whole awful lot. But all of his time came with second and third unit guys, so hopefully he’ll get some time soon with Westbrook and Durant. Lineup combinations with Jones are intriguing, but tonight he played mostly the traditional 3 with a little power forward in the fourth.

5. Ugly Beard. One player that definitely looked a little rusty was James Harden. And as in “rusty” I mean completely terrible at basketball. His first half: 0-5, two points and three turnovers. He straightened it out a bit in the second half, hitting 3-of-6 and finishing with nine points.

One thing about Harden’s game though was that he seemed to attack the paint a lot less and really focused on his mid-range pull-up game. Maybe that’s going to be something he keys on more this season.

A few other notes:

  • Hollis Thompson, Andy Rautins and Daniel Orton didn’t play at all. DeAndre Liggins though got 25 minutes, scoring 10 points, all in the first half.
  • Serge Ibaka sat because of a minor leg injury.
  • Westbrook seemed to really focus on his post game early on, taking Jeremy Lin down on the block repeatedly early on.
  • The Rockets’ announcing team was brutal. Matt Bullard called Toney Douglas a “pure point guard.” That’s all you need to know.
  • Terrence Jones can play.
  • Aldrich’s 34 minutes was the most for the Thunder tonight by nine minutes (Liggins).
  • Nick Collison took two charges in a preseason game. That is all.

Next up: Friday against the Jazz in Utah.

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see-mittens
see-mittens 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I've always found it interesting that on a season by season basis salary really has no effect on win totals.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/thursday-bolts-10-11-12/

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @ou_sas Nice try.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Jooseppi Dangit.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/thursday-bolts-10-11-12/

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Love Harden, dont want him to go anywhere, but if he departs, I hope its a package involving Klay Thomspson, Jeremy Lamb, or Bradley Beal.  Again, I repeat, I do not want him going anywhere, this is best options of a likely, worst case scenario.

PerkPunt
PerkPunt 5pts

 @K-Dagger Plainview

 Thats a dream in a cold world. idont think we could get that .

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I mean, dont we want an inexpensive, young no 2 with a high ceiling?

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

 @K-Dagger Plainview If money is an issue with keeping Harden, the team would be better served turning him and Ibaka into one better player, even if it's a slight downgrade at the time. More flexibility. 

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

 @FREE_COLE  @Bsooreal  @K-Dagger Plainview Dunno, but that's a deal Portland would think about, and if LMA gets frustrated waiting for Portland to get decent again, he might ask for a trade.

My preference would be to keep the two, but if money is truly an issue, consolidating assets seems to be the best bet. 

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Jooseppi  @Bsooreal  @K-Dagger Plainview Is LMA up for grabs yet you think? Love would be awesome but Kahn would probably demand Russ and RJ so he could run 4 pgs and pekovic

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

 *as he sometimes seems

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

 @Bsooreal  @FREE_COLE  @K-Dagger Plainview Hibbert is not worth Harden alone, much less Harden and Ibaka. He's overpaid and a mess.

If Love is as disenfranchised with Minny as he is, that's a remote possibility. LMA + change (Meyers Leonard?). Something along those lines.

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Bsooreal  @Jooseppi  @K-Dagger Plainview I'd guess untouchable for at least 1, maybe 2 seasons.  Gotta remember Indy did push Miami and still have that core of Granger/West/Hibs

PerkPunt
PerkPunt 5pts

 @FREE_COLE  @Jooseppi  @K-Dagger Plainview

 dude from indy?

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jooseppi  @K-Dagger Plainview who? Howard/Bynum are untouchable, could get Bogut for cheaper, and I can't think of any other center or big that we'd be able to get

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Bsooreal  @K-Dagger Plainview One better player you can keep. The mentioned Dwight deal was always unrealistic because he would have bolted after one year, and then you're left with nothing. 

PerkPunt
PerkPunt 5pts

 @Jooseppi  @K-Dagger Plainview

 like DHoward?...../sarc

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @K-Dagger Plainview Not really.  I'll take a developed 5 and serviceable 2. 

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @ou_sas  @Bsooreal  @FREE_COLE Hell no that wasnt corny, that was cleva!  Im in nursing school right now, so it spoke to this doof.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @Bsooreal  @K-Dagger Plainview  @FREE_COLE 

NaOH ?  If he's not part of the solution, he'll be part of the precipitate.

(corny chemistry joke of the day)

 

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @Keith00  @FREE_COLE Again, my (Oh, how I hate the to be sentence) emphasis was on "package."  But you may be right on Thompson, havent seen him play much

PerkPunt
PerkPunt 5pts

 @FREE_COLE  @K-Dagger Plainview

 and he's butt ugly.....

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Bsooreal  @K-Dagger Plainview I wouldn't touch Noah for anything.  Dude is hollywood as hell and wouldn't fit the culture, offensively challenged, and I just flat out dislike him

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @Keith00  @K-Dagger Plainview Oh that was only IF harden leaves

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @Bsooreal  @K-Dagger Plainview  @FREE_COLE I fully and enthusiastically support Sodium Hydroxide as a nickname.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FREE_COLE  @K-Dagger Plainview My problem is the amount of downgrade. We have the money to keep Harden, so how much is saving those few million dollars really worth? Klay Thompson is a good shooter, but not a great athlete and has limited defensive upside. He also can't handle the ball or run an offense like Harden. The money isn't worth the downgrade there.

PerkPunt
PerkPunt 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @K-Dagger Plainview  @FREE_COLE

 nope.   How about Sodium hydroxide from Chicago (NOaH)

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts

 @K-Dagger Plainview Perkins is somehow better than Robin Lopez :( 

MissYouCole
MissYouCole 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @K-Dagger Plainview I may be lambasted for it, but I would have LOVED Asik.  

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @FREE_COLE ANy ideas?  Would RObin Lopez suffice?

PerkPunt
PerkPunt 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Its just hard to believe OKC wouldn't give the beard his money. No other options make sense IMO. WE WILL SEE A CONTRACT SIGNING TOMORROW.  Book it ...

 

 

Look at my face an know I'm serious.......(Russ Stare)

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @Bsooreal Relax, bro, Sam got this.

 

http://www.thecrabdribble.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/russell_westbrook.jpg

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Bsooreal If we're just paying max anyway then you don't do it until next summer.  On October 31st they can finally cut the bullshit. At that point if James hasn't signed I bet Presti makes a public statement about the team's intent to match any offer this summer. 

PerkPunt
PerkPunt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game

 you can give him that contract now. it just wont be "max" ..im sure the only thing  they are discussing are the trade clauses or something along those lines.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Old Man Game  @Bsooreal Hmm, I doubt that.  I don't think Presti would show his hand so completely like that.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser  @Bsooreal There's no need for subterfuge at that point. It'll be match or he walks. Everyone knows it. That is unless Sam has some crazy trade up his sleeve. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Tronchaser  @Old Man Game  @Bsooreal It's going to be pretty much known that he will. He's just not going to say it.

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts

why must the comments always burst up around 2:30am. i can never keep up and by the time i wake up it's not even worth spending hours backtracking all of them.

I wish there was a separate tab i could press to filter all the actual basketball talk and ever-day DT chatter

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MrRaysian If you reload the pages, you'll see thread collapse arrows... I find if it looks like it's starting out like a topic I'm not interested in, I collapse and skip!

 

Also, a lot of these comments have happened in the last hour-hour and a half so...

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @MrRaysian where is this collapse you speak of?

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas  @ThunderBelize  @MrRaysian 

Ooooh, ou_sas is our telestrator!

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @ThunderBelize  @MrRaysian Upon refresh, right here: http://imgur.com/cafI5

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

However this is when whetehr he went anywhere 2-6 he would have made teh same amount of money.  The distinction now, is much more, plus people change, especially between the ages of 19 and 23

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

sorry, this was meant as a reply to the simmons article

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Aside from the fouls I - and only looking at the box score - I am mildly impressed with both Cole and Hasheem... nothing great, but Cole played 30+ mins and put up a pretty respectable stat line for a center even with the 5 fouls...

 

Tough to gauge much from the preseason, marginally more than summer league, but intriguing none the less.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderBelize He got better as the game wore on but it was sort of hard to gauge the performance because Houston was playing 2d and 3d string guys later in the game when Cole started to look best. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Old Man Game  @ThunderBelize But if Cole's going to be a backup big longterm, is that such a crime? I mean, we're not expecting him to D up Dwight Howard straight up, we're expecting him to be a second unit player. Playing against Asik did not do much for his appearance, but he shouldn't be playing more than a few minutes against him anyway under normal circumstances.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @ThunderBelize No, I would agree with that.

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Old Man Game Given that is the case, Cole and Hasheem may just thrive in the back up role playing largely against 2nd string guys.

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