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Friday Bolts – 10.19.12

by Royce Young on October 19, 2012 at 10:54 am 118 Comments

Rob Mahoney of SI.com says Harden deserves an extension: “It’s odd that Harden — who is a lock to receive a max offer sheet should he become a restricted free agent — isn’t already signed and sealed, but that has more to to with financial specifics than the Sixth Man Award winner’s intrinsic value. General manager Sam Presti and the Thunder are likely pushing for every bit of savings they can get at the negotiating table (as they should, given the compounding costs of the ensuing luxury-tax penalties), but ultimately they’ll need to come to terms with the fact that there’s only so much room to bargain down a player this young and this talented. Harden’s effortless combination of star-level production with a complementary offensive style is remarkable and far too valuable for the Thunder to let him go via free agency or even trade. The bill will undoubtedly be tough to swallow, but contending in the NBA comes at a cost, and for the Thunder Harden’s extension — on top of their other commitments — is it.”

Ethan Sherwood Strauss of Bleacher Report: “The Utah Jazz are like the Nuggets of being the Thunder. Allow me to parse that: They are a young ascendent team, much like OKC was and is, but they probably lack a superstar—like the Nuggets have and will.”

Pretty pumped about the new ABC/ESPN NBA Countdown show, personally.

Andrew Lynch of Hardwood Paroyxsm on stats: “I think one of the first scenarios we’ll see is those new defensive metrics. In particular, we’ll see how a defensive player’s spacing, relative to the man (or zone) he’s defending, relates to a team’s effective field goal percentage and points per possession. Then we’ll argue about how accurate those defensive metrics are — the basketball version of the debates baseball has had about UZR and the like for a while now. We’ll probably try to figure out a more accurate way of attributing an assist to the player making the pass and the player scoring the basket; it’ll almost certainly feature some sort of percentage distribution for the points scored, and it’ll include free throws generated as well. I wouldn’t be surprised to see efforts to define the value of drawing fouls and causing players in foul trouble to sit, particularly formidable defenders. The possibilities are as endless as the numbers.”

TBJ is back and talking Thunder about 40 minutes in.

On leadership.

Sean Deveney of Sporting News: “It will be tougher sledding this year, but the Thunder will come back with new focus and determination, having come as close as they did to reaching their ultimate goal last year. It was clear that Durant, Harden and Westbrook all took last year’s loss to the Heat especially hard, and the result has been a productive offseason in terms of their work and individual improvement. That will show up on the court, as will the toughness gained from last season’s playoff run. It might still be too much to ask them to take down the Heat, but even with the seismic changes in the West, they should be conference champs again.”

Numbers Never Lie previews the Northwest.

A rap song about James Harden (somewhat NSFW).

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Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/dt-mailbag-90-seconds-or-less/#more-22387

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

 @Legendary_Dork Dangit Royce, I'm still getting caught up. (I'm at yesterday's thread though!)

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

Would you like to play a game?  *WarGames voice*

 

For Friday fun . . . and because it's always interesting to look back later and see who was prophetic . . .  (Did you know our very own Royce pretty much nailed last season's record?)  I'm wondering who you think will be the top 8 teams in the West--ranked 1st thru 8th with only one team listed per spot.  If you care to offer yours today, I'll keep track of the info and we'll give someone their due credit at the end of the regular season.

 

I'm thinking we could "score" each one by assigning a point for every spot you were off in your 8 teams.  For example, if you (say, kennygee) list LA Lakers as #1 and they actually finish #14 in the West, you would get 13 points for that.  And so forth for the rest of your predicted teams.  If, on the other hand, you predict all 8 in the exact correct order, you would get 0 points.  Obviously, low score wins.  What do you win?  I guess bragging rights and DT cred/swag.  :)

 

Here's what Vegas says:

1. LA Lakers

2. Oklahoma City

3. San Antonio

4. Memphis

5. LA Clippers

6. Denver

7. Dallas

8. Sacramento

 

Here are mine:

1. Oklahoma City (of course)

2. San Antonio

3. Memphis

4. LA Lakers

5. Denver

6. LA Clippers

7. Dallas

8. Golden State (my Tronchaser BOLD prediction of the day)

 

Anyone?

SeanzieCrews
SeanzieCrews 5pts

 @ThunderChick2010 

1. OKC

2. LA Lakers

3. LA Clippers

4. SA

5. Denver

6. Memphis

7. Minnesota

8. Utah

OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 sacramento at 8? i find that surprisinghere's mine1. THE OKC Thunder2. Spurs 3. Nuggets4. Lakers5. Clippers (somewhat wishful thinking for 4 & 5. because i want an LA-LA series. how interesting would that be?)6. Grizzlies7.  Timberwolves8.  Dallasin my opinion, these matchups are very intriguing.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 I'm good for it:

 

1. SAS (They always end up here, don't they?)

2. OKC

3. LAL

4. LAC

5. Memphis

6. Denver

7. Utah

8. Minny

Thunder S
Thunder S 5pts

 @ou_sas  @ThunderChick2010 1. Okc 2. spurs 3. nuggets 4. lakers 5. LAC 6. Memphis 7. Utah 8. Minny

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 In order to separate myself from the pack:

1. Spurs

2. Thunder

3. Lakers

4. Denver

5. Clippers

6. Memphis

7. Utah

8. Wolves

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  hmm i say

 

Here are mine:

1. Oklahoma City

2. San Antonio

3. Memphis

4.Lakers

5. Denver

6. LA Clippers

7. jazz

8. Minny

 

im bodly saying dallas misses the playoffs :D

 

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 I'll bite.

 

1. OKC

2. LA Lakers

3 San Antonio

4 LA Clippers

5 Denver

6 Dallas

7 Memphis

8 Minnesota

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 I'd say if anyone manages to get 0 points, then they will get 1 free beer from everyone else at the end of the year DT party.

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

everyone on here will love this www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/Brooks-Fire-after-not -making-finals 

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @tydude oh link, why cant you be real?

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @tydude link fail

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @f5alcon  @tydude yeah that

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 8 Like

Sources say James Harden and the Thunder are nearing an agreement. The problem is that James Harden's beard wants a similar contract to Harden, that of which the Thunder are not willing to give him. Harden is holding out until his beard gets what he wants, as we all know his motto is "leave no beard behind."

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I add at least 5.3 ppg to Harden's game. Check the.advanced stats, then let me know when you're ready for my bank account number...

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @EatSleepThunder guess he better get the shears lol

Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Legendary_Dork  @EatSleepThunder how dare you

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

The source being James Harden's beard's twitter account, which is obviously the most reliable source of information on everything Beard related.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

via mizark stizien

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/preview2012/story/_/id/8523551/nba-james-harden-contract-situation-clouds-oklahoma-city-thunder-future

 

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @RodneyRosavelRusanWilson

I like this in reference to Nov. 1:

 

"Everything will be cleared," Harden said, "and back to just playing basketball."

 

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @RodneyRosavelRusanWilson I always like it when Okc is referred to as "Loud City", as Stein does in this article.

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts

 @Skyline  @RodneyRosavelRusanWilson  @OBoy Jones III  @ThunderChick2010 I should experiment with OKC themed drinks.

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts

 @RodneyRosavelRusanWilson  @OBoy Jones III  @ThunderChick2010 Ok, thanks for the explanation.... I'm down with OPP.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @Skyline  @ThunderChick2010 yea i think loud city is my own concoction... 

 

you know the terms, but do you got the germs?

 

please, dont answer

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @RodneyRosavelRusanWilson  @Skyline  @ThunderChick2010 about 50,000 variations of this have been used in rap songs. "loud city" might be a new variation though. 

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

 @Skyline  @ThunderChick2010 which would mean "the room was heavily scented with the rich aroma of Marijuana" 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @RodneyRosavelRusanWilson  @Skyline  @ThunderChick2010 here...i know what it means

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @Skyline  @ThunderChick2010 where is OBoy and clean doe when ya need em.. as in "I walked into the party and it smelled like Loud City in there'

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @RodneyRosavelRusanWilson  @ThunderChick2010 Such as?

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

 @Skyline  @ThunderChick2010 Yea... Loud City could have another meaning too... am i right folks?

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I would like a report on the two sides and contract negotiations with Harden and Thunder.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 11 Like

 @Skyline I'll summarize for you:

Presti: "We're talking."

Harden's agent: "Yup."

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 8 Like

 @Jooseppi  @Skyline Presti: No James, we will not sponsor your all-white yacht parties.

 

Harden: Then we are at an impasse, sir

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @D-MC  @Jooseppi Thank you Jenni C.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

 @Skyline

Presti: Here's what we got.

Harden: (scratching beard)

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

My desk is super squeaky and it is pissing me off.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts

Dirk out for six weeks.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8524290/dirk-nowitzki-dallas-mavericks-undergoes-arthroscopic-surgery-knee

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jooseppi You think they start Brand at the 4 for those 13 games then? Or go small with Marion at the 4?

Aren't
Aren't 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Jooseppi Tough break for the Mavs. Why didn't Dirk get that German knee surgery that Kobe had done? 

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 9 Like

Well ESPN, you did it again with the Lebron to Lakers 2014 article. Now that's all we're going to hear about for the next three years.

 

Durant will be in the gym working on his game while this soap opera is going down.

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @C-Wil  man the heat fans would be PISSED if he was like...*scratches butt, welp i got my title...LATERS!!!!!!!*   lol

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 10 Like

Um, I see what you're doing, ou_sas.  :)

What's funny is that scrolling through some of the recent threads . . . I see that you liked ALMOST every comment.  Wondering what those skipped people did to get on your bad side . . .   :)

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 It's the preliminary implementation of my senseandsenescencian like-bot. Pseudo-random like generator to approximate my liking habits. Still early phase though. Needs a bit of work. :D

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

@ThunderChick2010 My email is full of ou_sas likes

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @BallSoHarden  @ThunderChick2010 http://memegenerator.net/instance/28633892

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @ou_sas  @BallSoHarden Oh yeah. People will wonder what the hell I am doing in here.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @D-MC  @ou_sas  @BallSoHarden

On your squeaky desk?

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @ou_sas  @BallSoHarden No that would be me.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @BallSoHarden

I assume you need a nap now.  :)

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