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Monday Bolts – 10.15.12

by Royce Young on October 15, 2012 at 10:41 am 525 Comments

Kevin Arnovitz of TrueHoop on Russell Westbrook and Jordan Brand: “Over the past quarter century (gulp), the Jordan Brand launched a business that would become an economic tentpole for sports. The brand has plenty of competition and no shoe can lend legitimacy to a professional player simply by signing them, but being a starter on Team Jordan, so to speak, is a nice, sexy résumé item for a budding superstar, given the legacy of the brand and its namesake, That’s one reason Russell Westbrook’s jumping to the Jordan Brand was deemed a big deal — for both star and brand.”

Spencer Lund of Dime: “Westbrook is no Jordan. That much is clear even if you discount everything but the first four years of MJ’s career, before a time when MJ was winning titles and became a worldwide name that still is deified today. MJ shot more efficiently and was a better defender through those early years than Westbrook’s been with OKC. But Westbrook’s bull-headed approach, his competitiveness and startling athleticism off the dribble drive, all mimic the young Jordan that hadn’t yet figured it out either. As Russell Westbrook enters his fifth season on a team that’s favored to come out of the Western Conference, he faces many of the same questions Jordan faced: Can he share the ball? Will he forfeit some offense for the betterment of the team? Like his new label-mate, the only thing Westbrook can do is go out and prove them all wrong. There are few players that better personify the Jordan Brand’s ethos.”

Eddie Maisonet of SB Nation: “Either way, the expectation of signing Harden by Halloween is irrelevant, outside of the sheer desire to put the Harden talk to bed so we don’t have to worry about it. However, why put anything in stone now if you don’t have to? Right? Unless the Thunder believe that the trio of Durant-Harden-Ibaka are good enough to build around, and that Harden is replaceable, I can’t see a scenario where he doesn’t return. If they do find him replaceable….then the league’s greatest beard will be playing for a team that isn’t worth a damn at all, and that would be a damn shame.”

KD’s take on the man jumping from space yesterday: “Wow just seen Felix Baumgartner jump from the edge of space! #couldnthavebeenme..my pants woulda smelled like a dump truck lol congrats”

Changing the draft.

It’s Devin Durrant.

Russell Westbrook in a Q&A about Jordan Brand: “Q: Does Michael Jordan still handpick the players he wants to represent his brand? A: Yes. I think so. To my knowledge, I think he wants guys that relate to the brand. I don’t think they want too many guys. But they want guys that relate to the brand. Q: Did he ever reach out to you personally? A: Nah, not before the process. A little bit (afterward). I didn’t get a chance to holler at him though. But he tried to reach out. Q: Wait a second. If Michael Jordan calls, you take his call. A: (Laughs). I didn’t know. I didn’t know what it was, who was calling.”

James Harden comes up quite a lot in this guide to flopping.

Happy five years, HP.

David Aldridge of NBA.com on Harden’s extension: “The $58 million question — that amount being the max amount a player will get in an offer sheet from an opposing team if he’s not signed to an extension. Oklahoma City says all the right things regarding Harden, but the Thunder are looking for a way not to pay a third player a max deal. There is no way Harden won’t get a max offer from another team next summer, though. So OKC can pay him now, or pay him later. Or trade him. But that would just bring back more salary and rip the locker room apart.”

And on Maynor’s: “The Thunder missed Maynor last season after he tore his ACL, and he’s been full go so far in training camp. But the issue isn’t Maynor’s knee any more; the issue is OKC’s finances. Forget what a potential new deal for Harden would mean: even with its current payroll commitments, the Thunder may not be able to break even even if they make several Finals in a row the next few years. So OKC will almost certainly wait until next summer and see what the market sets for Maynor’s value. In the interim, the Thunder will see how much more money it can wring out of the local economy, and if the details of the league’s revenue sharing program somehow change them from a payer to a receiver.”

KD with most like to play with Larry Legend.

Darnell Mayberry with preseason thoughts: “Kendrick Perkins is sidelined all preseason while recovering from wrist surgery. That’s given third-year man Cole Aldrich a chance at ample playing time as the temporary starter. So far, Aldrich has made the most of his opportunities, recording double-doubles in both of the first two preseason games. He also tallied three blocked shots in each game. Aldrich has been erratic yet awkwardly effective. He’s displayed a functional jump hook with both hands, tenacity as a rebounder, a willingness to set physical screens to free up shooters and improved awareness defending the pick and roll. The downside to Aldrich is he still isn’t great in man post defense, and he fouls at an alarming rate.”

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Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

So lets play the where will "Lazar play next year" game.  My money is on China! 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @Bsooreal Puerto Rico.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

What are people's opinions on Philly for this year? I'm excited to watch them over the next year or two.

areayewhy
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 @FreeFezzyFel/JG22 it'll be interesting to see what kind of numbers bynum can put up. having 4 quarter instead of just the first 3 to accumulate stats should help him

Perk-Punt
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 @areayewhy  @FreeFezzyFel/JG22

 who else is in that frontcourt w/ him?

 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @K-Dagger Plainview  @FreeFezzyFel/JG22  @areayewhy

 but a servicable 7fter

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @FreeFezzyFel/JG22  @areayewhy  @BsoorealHAwes maybe underrated bt hes not World Class-lite

Fezzy
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 @areayewhy  @Bsooreal Could work, maybe. Hawes is basically Gasol lite anyways.

areayewhy
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 @Bsooreal  @FreeFezzyFel/JG22 spencer hawes

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FreeFezzyFel/JG22 Their off-season was a bunch of dumb moves slightly vindicated by trading for Bynum. They have inexplicable faith in Evan Turner, who has shown almost nothing. They amnestied Brand, a productive big man, so they could overpay Young for 1 year. They let Lou Williams go for less than what they paid Young despite Williams clearly being better. 

Perk-Punt
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 @Jooseppi  @FreeFezzyFel/JG22

 i dont see why people love nick young. he's a chucker

long arm of the law
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 @Bsooreal  @Jooseppi  @FreeFezzyFel/JG22 My favorite part about Nick Young is Grant Long ripping into him everytime the Thunder plays him.

long arm of the law
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 @Bsooreal  @Jooseppi  @FreeFezzyFel/JG22 SWAG

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @FreeFezzyFel/JG22

I dont expect their backcourt to have  great defense, Iggy took up a lot of slack.   They might be as bad as the bucks in that aspect. I think they will have a top ten offense though.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

I like the Nick Young pickup for them even though I hate Nick Young. I like their backup guards in Maalik Wayns and Young. 

long arm of the law
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 @FreeFezzyFel/JG22 NICK SWAGYOUNG

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @FreeFezzyFel/JG22 I like Holiday and wish they wouldnt have lost Williams or Meeks.  They were deep.  Might have a bit of time before they gel with all the new faces

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

Has RealGM been hacked?  Everytime I go there my browser freezes.  I was going to post a link to their sight to show that Cole leads the league in blocks as of right now. Ill probably never get another chance to say that agian, however, I as I said over a year ago, I think he could avg a block per 8-9 minutes played, and maybe 2 fouls at that clip.  Maybe he could average 7 pts, 10 reb over 25 min but stopping people and psotioning might be his problem

Tronchaser
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I've been waiting for this day for a long, long time.  I get to see Lord Byron in person!  Yiipppeee

Tronchaser
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Keri Russell!

Stringer Bell
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If the Thunder turn Hasheem Thabeet into a contributing player at some point in his three year career (I'm aware the 2nd-3rd years aren't guaranteed) I will be amazed.

 

Very happy, but absolutely amazed... Still cant believe the Griz drafted him 2nd overall! Imagine if they took Harden. Then who do we draft? Hypothetical, I know... But I think we may have been able to save Demarcus Cousins as a rookie. Probably to far along now...

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Stringer Bell curry or rubio. What about cousins needing to be saved? he is an all star level talent, last year his numbers were identical to griffins, yet because he has "attitude" problems he gets overlooked.

Jooseppi
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 @f5alcon  @Stringer Bell His numbers weren't identical. Griffin was significantly more efficient and a much better passer. 

http://bit.ly/TYK4Nh

Jooseppi
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 @Stringer Bell That draft gets ugly fast.

But it wouldn't have been Cousins. He was in the 2010 draft.

Stringer Bell
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 @Jooseppi Whoops, mixing up the drafts there... Thanks for pointing that out!

Perk-Punt
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 @Stringer Bell

 Curry.

[censored]
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I didn't want to comment on this down below because it'd get lost, but saying that the only thing wrong with Demarcus Cousins is his shot selection is like saying the only thing wrong with Thabo Sefolosha is his shooting.  Cousins is a big man who has posted consecutive seasons of sub .500 TS%.  The list of 6'9"+ players who managed that more than once is not a glowing endorsement of Cousins' potential to become efficient.  Travis Outlaw, Darko Milicic, Glen Davis, Old and Busted Chris Webber... these are the types of players with 15+ USG who've done it more than once.  Cousins will improve, but he's going to have to completely change the way he plays in order to do so.  He's not going to remain a ~30 USG player and still be a net positive anytime soon.

Perk-Punt
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 @justin_mia

 Cousins went to the wrong team and has or had the  wrong state-of -mind to be a pro.

 

He wont improve until he changes teams.  Not statistically but    as a person he reminds me of Z-bo great potential and tallent just poor environment. If he is smart he wlll not re-sign with Sac, take the hit(if there is one) and try to reinvent himself somewhere else. Imagine him going to SAS, OKC, or even Dallas teams with either a great culture for development or coach. He could end up with a Z-bo like bounce back. It wont happen in Sac-town.

 

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @Bsooreal  @justin_mia Who would best help Cousins?  Pops?  Collins?

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @K-Dagger Plainview  @justin_mia

 Pops hands down. Collins has his hands full already.

long arm of the law
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 @Bsooreal  @justin_mia The Cousins-Thomas Robinson dynamic will be fun to watch.

ElMexiThunder
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No One Knows My Full name!!

ThunderChick2010
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 @ElMexiThunder

 I do.  :)

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  No you don't!!! 

Lambchop
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 @ThunderChick2010  @ElMexiThunder DO NOT call her "chicky-poo"!!!

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  I'll be the 6 foot mexican most likely wearing a black blue thunder hat, with my lil bro. I'll post on here when i meet up with Dennis that way you can find us both! 

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  316 i went the cheap route. 

ThunderChick2010
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 @ElMexiThunder

 What's your section?  I'll try to look for you.

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  See ya tomorrow!! 

ThunderChick2010
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 @ElMexiThunder

It is . . . because I said so. 

(Good night.)

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  Nooo thats not fair momma!! 

ThunderChick2010
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 @ElMexiThunder

It's Thunder Chick.  But you can call me TC if you want.

Time for sleep . . . big day tomorrow!  :)

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  Whats yours? 

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  Oh dang... Sorry i was being a silly goose. 

ThunderChick2010
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 @ElMexiThunder

(I can see it on your twitter link, silly son.)

:)

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010  I said FULL  NAME!! You only know my first!! 

ThunderChick2010
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 @ElMexiThunder

 Yes, I do, Erik. 

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
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If I got tickets to the AAC in January for the Thunder game, would anyone else come?

Perk-Punt
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 @DustinMcWilliams

 I'm in Plano, I'll come. Are you selling or giving the extra ticket?

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
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 @Bsooreal Oh. My idea was to meet someone there so we can be best friends forever. I don't have tickets yet.

Tronchaser
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 @DustinMcWilliams  @Bsooreal No, nothing creepy about that.

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